@DynamiteShikoku:
that's why earlier i said that vegapunk should play his part and be able to do the same thing. there are many potential zoan users in the government. the government knows how to use devil fruit to weapons, transfer the power to pacifistas, they even know WHAT devil fruit is. therefore they should know how to maximize the potential of a zoan users like chopper did as well. but because they didnt do that and chopper is the only one shown capable to gain extra forms, i called chopper special. special not in terms of the fruit, but the fact that he is the only one that has the intellingence to create rumble ball.
Thanks for clarifying that, then I don't have anything against calling him "special". However, we don't know yet if Vegapunk HAS done research in this area - although it appears he hasn't so far - but maybe that is because it is not even that useful to most Zoan users. Chopper is ALSO a special case because he is an animal that ate the human fruit - most of the other Zoan's we know are the opposite, so their use of the fruit is somewhat different.
@DynamiteShikoku:
that's why i also said that i want the other zoan users SOMEHOW play with their forms. like lucci using the rokushiki, or vegapunk create 'rumble-ball-like' drugs. they already know how to awaken the zoan power in the impel down arc and they should be able to do something more than that.
but now we are given the fact that chopper is the only who keeps gaining new forms while the others just stuck there. thats what bothers me.
It doesn't bother me at all, to be honest. Vegapunk appears to be an amazing scientist and inventor, but the Rumble Ball is essentially a form of medicine - something Vegapunk might not be an expert in, however genius he might be. You also seem to forget he managed to incorporate the powers of Zoan fruits in weapons - Funkfreed and Mr. 4's Dachshund-Bazooka, forgot the name. That's already an amazing feat, and definitely more than playing around with the possibilites of hybrid-forms, in my opinion.
I believe that giving users like Lucci more forms would not really be helpful - think of it, he is a human who can turn into an intimidating Leopard hybrid, or the full animal form. This allows him to also use his Rokushiki mastery in different ways, granting him new attack forms. Same as Kaku and Jyabura. Marco with his phoenix fruit has shown different partial transformations, such as his upper body staying human, but having the flame wings and talons of a phoenix.
Then, look at Chopper - he is a reindeer. The fruit gave him the ability to turn in two different human hybrid forms, plus the ability to speak and increased intelligence. That is already different, because he cannot turn fully into a human - which is probably just because he is originally an animal, and probably (most likely) because Oda chose it to be so. However, the Rumble Ball then grants him to exaggerate certain traits of both animal and human - which grants him more forms, which are all hybrid forms.
So, well, I agree with you saying that it would be nice seeing other Zoan users play around with the powers they have received, but it would be asked too much for them to gain new forms without the use of a drug similar to Chopper's. I have always hoped for a battle against a Zoan user, who somehow manages to get hold on a Rumble Ball, just to see how the battle works out. It would be great to see what the drug does to other DF users.
But I still disagree with you saying that it makes Chopper somehow smarter than the government, it doesn't bother me at all that he created something Vegapunk didn't - maybe that will be brought up in their encounter, who knows.
Everyone entitled to their opinion on this, of courseā¦
@flandrian15:
maybe chopper just ate the human human fruit model: smartass
Sure, that's why he believes everything Usopp tells him