I mean the reverse mountain only goes one way, and you can't sail through the calm belt. Yet, Mihawk, Don Krieg and Arlong have all gone through it. Any ideas on how?
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Brave the Calm Belt?
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I'm sure the particularly brave and/or crazy can make it through the Calm Belt. Still, you'd have to be even more of one of those to try to enter the Grand Line that way (since you'd die drifting on the ocean without a Log Pose), but crossing it isn't entirely impossible.
Also, IIRC, Buggy's been to the Grand Line once before as well.
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I believe you can get back to different seas along the Red Line. After all Roger did go around the Grand Line and was executed in Logue Town. And if I remember correctly, Krieg ran away soon after he entered Grand Line. This has been asked so many times, that I'm sure Oda will explain it sometime. :mellow:
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Perhaps for some reason you can only use Calm Belt for fleeing the Grand Line but not enter it.
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actually, assuming you are strong enough to fend off the sea kings, the only real challenge of the calm belt is rowing your way through it. With enough man power, or power you could simply row your way out =p
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doesnt grand line wrap around the world so maybe if you sail enough to the west or east there is another way
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there's always a way where there's a will ;)
all this a minor things that aren't really that importnat to anyopne but us fans who want everything to make sense and ahve a meaning .
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Originally posted by Majek@Feb 21 2005, 06:32 PM
all this a minor things that aren't really that importnat to anyopne but us fans who want everything to make sense and ahve a meaning .:P So right. And I'm sure a lot of artists and authors come up with a stuff without never actually giving any thought on them.
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Well, it shouldn't have been TOO hard for Arlong and crew to escape the Grand Line considering that they're all powerful mermen who's strength and speed is greatly increased in the sea. If they wanted, with enough manpower, they could probably just push their ship across the Calm Belt. Other than that, there's the more obvious possibility that they had Mohmoo pull them across, and they just kicked sea monster ass until they reached the East Blue. Sea monsters probably wouldn't want to screw with a pack of powerful mermen anyway.
As for Mihawk, I'm not sure how he'd get across. The little dingy he sails around in seemed to have magic green fire hovering around it (probably a reference to St. Elmos Fire) so maybe it can sail without wind? Mihawk can also walk on the sea, according to Gin. So there are his options. If sea monsters spotted him coming, if they know whats good for them they'd probably just pretend to be busy knitting or looking the other way.
One of the major problems Krieg had when he finally returned to the East Blue wasn't simply that almost every ship in his fleet had been annihilated, but he and his men had to slowly make their way across the calm belt, which is as good as being shipwrecked I suppose. So by the time they finally escaped, they were all dying of starvation, IIRC. While Mihawk may have broken their spirit, it seemed like dragging themselves across the Calm Belt is what sucked all the will out of them. Dunno how he and his crew braved the sea monsters, maybe Krieg was badder than I thought.
As for Buggy, ect…I dunno enough about his time in the Grand Line to make a guess. He may have been a cabin boy or a swabbie on Rogers crew, and he escaped the Grand Line simply by sailing around the world and going up the other side of the reverse mountain, I think.
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I can't believe I forgot Buggy went. Also Zeff went to the grand line and then went to the East Blue. That Arlong theory sounds good, I can see mermen getting through the calm belt. Mihawk, could have scared the sea monsters enough to pull him. Krieg probably had some stupid weapon that could let him go through it. But Buggy and Zeff, I have no idea.
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Originally posted by Jango@Feb 20 2005, 04:40 PM
I mean the reverse mountain only goes one way, and you can't sail through the calm belt. Yet, Mihawk, Don Krieg and Arlong have all gone through it. Any ideas on how?
[snapback]4924[/snapback]Two ways that I know of :
you can exit the Grandline at or near Mariejoa, which probably has access to all four Blues.
you cross the Calm Belt and suffer for it.Don Krieg may well have entered the Calm Belt with a sizable portion of his fleet intact after encountering Mihawk and the monsters picked off most of what was left.
As for Arlong, Jinbei probably arranged for him to leave the Grandline in exchange for him becoming Shichibukai. So he probably left at Mariejoa without Marine interference.
That or the World Government doesn't really care who leaves the Grandline, just who enters. If the Marines in the various Blues can deal with them, fine. If not, well, they have more important things to worry about than what happens in the Blues.
If that's the case, a pirate who is clearly heading toward Reverse Mountain will have their bounty increase more quickly than a pirate who hangs around in their home Blue in the hopes that they will be caught before entering the Grandline. If they stay where they are, fine. If they come onto the Grandline, that's just that much more the Marine HQ has to deal with.
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SPOILERS just to be safe :P
SPOILERS for the Arlong Arc
I don't think any deals Jinbei made with the World Government would involve sicking a psychotic merman supremacist like Arlong on the weakest of the world's four oceans, East Blue. Seems like asking for trouble to me, and his very first thought was to take over the entire eastern hemisphere beginning with his island base and sea charts courtesy of Nami. ^^;
I also read somewhere that Arlong is currently in prison, according to Oda himself. I can't confirm this so don't hold me to it. I think Arlong probably left Jinbei's gang simply because he couldn't stand being under the World's Government's thumb. His merman pride wouldn't allow it :P