Star Wars Universe - Resurrection F

Jedi Master

For a while I wanted to do a official post to this trilogy/corporation, and everything to do with it. So anyway, I did after I looked up the easier way (I searched George Lucas since the other way is 12 pages long.

Anyway, this post will have anything you want to talk about it…more specificly the movies, tv series, comics, novels, and some of the other things that were created since 32 years ago.

What thing you did recently also? Like for example, I started recently reading book 1, Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn. I also read the Vision of the Past (I made a mistake thinking that it was a prequel but it wasn't), now I'm still waiting to read Specter of the Future.

Crossword

Spector of the Past and Vision of the Future are part of a separate duology. The sequels to Heir to the Empire are Dark Force Rising and The Last Command.

Zahn's stuff is always pretty good, but I've largely fallen out of the EU ever since the Legacy of the Force series started. It just descended into a hellhole of idiotic plot elements and it's just painful to read the summaries on Wookiepedia and elsewhere.

Malintex_Terek

Galactic Civil War was the best. All the material published in the 1990's before the philosopher auxiliaries that make up the Jedi were expanded on was simply fantastic, even the stuff for kids. Post-Civil War stuff was OK I guess…but I didn't like how the 'good guys' won.

Tie Fighter is still the best SW game and the greatest FS of all time.

Ubiq

I haven't read many of the books lately outside of Death Star and the first MedStar book. I hear that Karen Traviss got all pissy about the way Mandalorians are going to be portrayed in the second season of Clone Wars and has basically quit the franchise, but that seems to be a good thing based on most people's reactions.

Going by the ads I've seen lately, Cartoon Network seems to be promoting CW Season 2 as Cad Bane and Friends, which is for the best really, especially if they use him a lot.

Cyborg009

@Malintex_Terek:

Galactic Civil War was the best. All the material published in the 1990's before the philosopher auxiliaries that make up the Jedi were expanded on was simply fantastic, even the stuff for kids. Post-Civil War stuff was OK I guess…but I didn't like how the 'good guys' won.

Tie Fighter is still the best SW game and the greatest FS of all time.

i agree, galactic civil war was considered the best in the timeline.

question: are the discussions of fan edits involving star wars allow here?

Jedi Master

^ Sure, but anyway, I am going to add the rest of the SW's books that I read (or trilogies):

(1) Darth Bane Path of Destruction and Rule of Two

(2) book 1 and 2 of Jedi Apprentice

(3) Star Wars Last of the Jedi book 1-10

Cyborg009

@Jedi:

^ Sure

good, cause i know of a fan edit that you guys should be interested in.

Adywan's Star Wars Revisited: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-IV-2004-REVISITED-ADYWAN-DVD-9-VERSIONS-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/5942/

and no it's not one of those "hack-kneed parody making spoof bits done by talentless hacks who had nothing else better to do with their lives edit". this one's legit.

in short: it's a revision of how the special editions should have been done.

so far only episode IV is completed and the edit are very impressive.

here's part 1:

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he is currently working on episode V and it won't be out till early 2010.

till that time, these teaser clips will tie you over.

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with that aside, who here still knows about X-wing Alliance?

SantoryuMaster97

Those look Masterful just like the movies.

Cyborg009

@SantoryuMaster97:

Those look Masterful just like the movies.

if you think that's good. just what till he does Return of the Jedi. i cannot wait for what he's gonna do with the space battle.

Strohhut-Ruffy

Phew, yeah I'm a big Star Wars fan. And I must say the books are the most entertaining part. Sure, I own both trilogies on DVD and I love the movies, but what the authors manage to invent in the expanded universe is just more than great.

Actually I don't like George Lucas at all. I really don't. I'm very thankful for the movies and that he created that whole thing, but that's it.
The message alone that "he has HIS Star Wars" and the authors got their "expanded universe" is something that bugs me. I could really see the books getting made into movies - because, yeah, they are simply awesome.

Okay, so I read and own

Darth Bane - Path of Destrucion
The whole Jedi Apprentice Series. // (20 volumes)
Secrets of the Jedi
The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader
Darth Maul - Shadow Hunter
Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Rogue Planet
The Approaching Storm
Episode II - Attack of the Clones
Shatterpoint
The Cestus Deception
Jedi Trial
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
Labyrinth of Evil
Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Dark Lord - The Rise of Darth Vader
The whole Last of the Jedi Series // (10 volumes) The Force Unleashed The Han Solo Adventures // (3 Volumes)
Death Star
Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina
Allegiance
Tales from Jabba's Palace
Thrawn Trilogy - Heir to the Empire
Thrawn Trilogy - Dark Force Rising // <<< READING ATM
The whole New Jedi Order series // (19 volumes) <<< THE BEST SERIES
The Dark Nest Trilogy
Legacy of the Force 1 - Betrayal
Legacy of the Force 2 - Bloodlines
Legacy of the Force 3 - Tempest Yeah, that's about it_._ There are A LOT of books I still have to own, and except the books of Jude Watson they are all worth it.
It's still enough to say that I know a lot about Star Wars. Jude Watson's Series "Jedi Apprentice", "Jedi Quest" and "Last of the Jedi" are NOT BAD (don't get me wrong), but she has a boring style to build her novels. It's almost always the same.

I started 1999 with Episode I, bought Episode II in 2004 and then it was like fever. In those novels are so many interesting things, so much fun - and the best thing - the original Star Wars Charme, y'know what I mean?

A friend borrowed me the first New Jedi Order-Book and I refused to read it. A year and a half after that I bought it and simply ATE the whole series. New Jedi Order is unbelievably good and worth every .. eh .. buck. (It's Euro for me 8P).
Unfortunately I'm reading everything in german, which I will end in the coming years. I have to wait soooo long for the books. The 4th Legacy of the Force is coming out in September, while the USA is 3 "arcs" away. It's a shame. But the translation is good after all.

I really would like to buy the comics, because some of them are just awesome. But I don't want to spend TOO much money on that, and it's impossible for me to own EVERYTHING. But I can recommend them, because I read a few.

And I own the 2 DVDs of the Clone Wars Comic Series. I was totally hyped about the ANIMATED series (and they managed to bring them on TV in europe) but it's CRAP. It's just crap. The stories and facts are making no sense at all, and so I am in camp "Expanded Universe" now, where people are writing stuff that's really worth reading, while George Lucas is totally after the money.

And I recommend wookieepedia.com for any information on novels and just everything about Star Wars.

And if you're going to start reading Star Wars novels, try something classic like the novels of the movies. Because my favourite series NJO is the best, but it starts 25 years after Episode IV and you'd be totally WTF at that point.

Thx

123

I liked the series(books,movies etc) before Star Wars IV better then those stuff (books , movies etc) that happened after Star Wars III. It was kind of too much political stuff for me,not counting IV,V and V . But i must admit the whole Jacen Solo thingy was cool.

gold_rogger15

Am I the only one who prefer the 5 minute micro series over the new clone wars series.

And I think the books could be made into movies. Just look what lucas did with the new Clone Wars series.

SantoryuMaster97

@gold_rogger15:

Am I the only one who prefer the 5 minute micro series over the new clone wars series.

And I think the books could be made into movies. Just look what lucas did with the new Clone Wars series.

The only reason I HATE the new series is because of his fucking shitty apprentice. I sware this show better go all the way to the end of Episode III and ill have a smile on my face watching that bitch get saberslashed!

Strohhut-Ruffy

@gold_rogger15:

Am I the only one who prefer the 5 minute micro series over the new clone wars series.

What do you mean with 5 minute micro series? Is it this?

Because I like THAT a lot.
EDIT:// Oh, I just saw it stands right there XDDDDD But the apprentice-thing confuses me, because there is none in this series?
Or is there? [/EDIT]

But if you mean THIS series -

i can't help but say it's NOT GOOD.
Why does Anakin have an apprentice anyway? The Jedi council DOES NOT trust him!! There would be no point in giving him an apprentice.
WHY is the apprentice so strong and is able to fight equal to people like Asajj Ventress?!
That's crap! And I am not going to watch the Clone Wars-Movie!

@gold_rogger15:

And I think the books could be made into movies. Just look what lucas did with the new Clone Wars series.

As i said, I would wish so. But I can imagine that Lucas would not like to pay for their screenplay. And it's Expanded universe after all, he does not give a s*it!!
Let's just hope he smells the money and makes it.

gold_rogger15

@Strohhut-Ruffy:

What do you mean with 5 minute micro series? Is it this?

http://starwarsclonewarsfan.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/star_wars_clone_wars_dvd.jpg

Because I like THAT a lot.
EDIT:// Oh, I just saw it stands right there XDDDDD But the apprentice-thing confuses me, because there is none in this series?
Or is there? [/EDIT]

THAT WAS A BADASS SERIES EVEN IF IT WAS ONLY 5 MINUTES! God It was soo awesome and Grevious was just simply fucking bad ass. They fucked him over in EP III :getlost:

But if you mean THIS series -

http://fullygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/clonewarscelebration.jpg

i can't help but say it's NOT GOOD.
Why does Anakin have an apprentice anyway? The Jedi council DOES NOT trust him!! There would be no point in giving him an apprentice.
WHY is the apprentice so strong and is able to fight equal to people like Asajj Ventress?!
That's crap! And I am not going to watch the Clone Wars-Movie!

THAT SERIES IS COMPLETE SHIT AND I REFUSE TO SEE IT!

THANK YOU FOR THAT STATEMENT! Durge should've been in the 3rd movie if you ask me. He was so badass. He was like a weaker Boba Fett.

As i said, I would wish so. But I can imagine that Lucas would not like to pay for their screenplay. And it's Expanded universe after all, he does not give a s*it!!
Let's just hope he smells the money and makes it.

Agreed.

TheHerald

The best Star Wars thing I ever did was forget all this dumb extra bullshit I was into when I was 10.
It made the movies fifty times better when I watched them again when I was 15.

Strohhut-Ruffy

@gold_rogger15:

THAT WAS A BADASS SERIES EVEN IF IT WAS ONLY 5 MINUTES! God It was soo awesome and Grevious was just simply fucking bad ass. They fucked him over in EP III :getlost:

The series itself wasn't on european TV at all. Bought the DVDs and watched it in one session. Bwahaha.
I can imagine that it must have kinda sucked watching only 5 minutes each episode.
And your quoted for truth for your opinion on Grievous. It's a shame he got "weak" after the incidence.

@gold_rogger15:

THANK YOU FOR THAT STATEMENT!

You're welcome. That's the point everyone has. Even my fiancé says that and she's no Star Wars-fan at all.

@gold_rogger15:

Durge should've been in the 3rd movie if you ask me. He was so badass. He was like a weaker Boba Fett.

Woah, Durge was a badass. I wished there was a novel about him or something like that. He's kinda underrated.
Ventress herself is a badass too. She was a great Dark Jedi and there would've been no problem for her, killing Ahsoka Tano.
Maaan, I hate Ahsoka xD

In my early days with Star Wars my opinion was that the Old Republic-Jedi would whoop the asses of Luke Skywalker's Jedi.
But I think different nowadays.

Gokudera

I've been a fan and watched every movie and read many wiki articles and I have this to say. Who the hell is Ashoka?

Strohhut-Ruffy

The little Togruta-prick Anakin got assigned as padawan in the shitty "Clone Wars Animated" series, so that little kids have a character in the movie who they can identify themselves with.

Gokudera

@Strohhut-Ruffy:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/b/bb/AhsokaHS.jpg/250px-AhsokaHS.jpg

The little Togruta-prick Anakin got assigned as padawan in the shitty "Clone Wars Animated" series, so that little kids have a character in the movie who they can identify themselves with.

Die she die or something?

Strohhut-Ruffy

I don't think so, why?

Gokudera

@Strohhut-Ruffy:

I don't think so, why?

Because I don't see her in episode 3 and if she didn't die in the cartoon I'm prertty sure she was killed by the order to kill all Jedi.

Strohhut-Ruffy

Oh, so that's your point.
I see, well ..

Look. George Lucas produces shit and the whole story should be NON-CANON IMO, but since it's from Lucas himself it isn't. So nobody knows at this point what happened to her.

Jedi Master

Who cares about the movies anymore (other then the first 3, and the animated series), you should read some them, mainly the prequel with Darth Bane, and the one called the Hand f Thrawn, and of course the one I finished recently, the last command, but first you have to read the previous two called dark force rising and heir to the empire.

sanji499

Star wars was part of my young life. It will forever be.

If anyone has kids someday. There are lot of ways to introduce them to the saga.

I only know one way. Make them watch the original trilogy unedited. The true and only good star wars.

Tell them that the prequels do not even exist for the love of god. It is not worth the pain and the waste of time.

I have to buy the original edition unedited before Lucas makes the serie in 3d.

Malintex_Terek

@Jedi:

Anyway, this post will have anything you want to talk about it…more specificly the movies, tv series, comics, novels, and some of the other things that were created since 32 years ago.

What thing you did recently also? Like for example, I started recently reading book 1, Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn. What have me worried is that I haven't read the 2 previous to it, Specter of the Past, and Vision of the Future, but I did read Outbound Flight.

GALACTIC CIVIL WAR.

I read many of those post-war novels, a lot of them were just silly/weird…clone material became central to both the prequels and the expanded universe after the movies, and I didn't like how they became a proxy for reincarnation and why clones simply ceased to be a factor in the GCW.

I also hated how the novels were so clearly slanted toward the good guys winning. At the very least, which is ironic because Lucas would have been crucified for continuity had he done it differently, the prequels showed the BAD GUYS WON! The rampant stupidity and shallow sentimentality of the good guys made already biased people like me just cheer on the Sith all the more.

Also, Thrawn. ;_; He was my commander in Tie Fighter, if reading about him was touching just imagine what flying missions for him was like.

Ubiq

p0NTD7g5BxQ

One of the best Star Wars moments ever.

Cyborg009

@Ubiq:

p0NTD7g5BxQ

One of the best Star Wars moments ever.

i actually agree with you on that.

just when we thought merrick won, boom, anakin stabs him in the back.

excellent scene.

Strohhut-Ruffy

@Malintex_Terek:

GALACTIC CIVIL WAR.
Also, Thrawn. ;_; He was my commander in Tie Fighter, if reading about him was touching just imagine what flying missions for him was like.

I was halway through the Thrawn-trilogy when I realised I didn't like Thrawn at all. And then I read ,Outbound Flight' and now I think he's awesome.

Jedi Master

Have anyone seen the Clone Wars? The episodes are really great lately

Cyborg009

@Jedi:

Have anyone seen the Clone Wars? The episodes are really great lately

i have. the first season was alright. but the second season is getting really good. the mandalorian deathwatch saga was grand.

Ubiq

While the first season definitely had its moments, the second one has been an amazing leap forward in animation as well as writing.

Cyborg009

@Ubiq:

While the first season definitely had its moments, the second one has been an amazing leap forward in animation as well as writing.

not to mention that the second season had some darker moments like when cad bane tortured the jedi to death…on screen. most shows don't kill a guy on screen like that.

Ubiq

That scene in "Landing at Point Rain" where the Clones used flamethrowers on the Geonosians was a bit rough as well.

sanji499

I am planning to see this for sure.

sanji499

Another classic review from Redletters media.

tarrin4ever

YEEEESSS!!!!

StrawHatRican

revives thread

I guess we can use this…

NANLIT

This is a SW site I used to visit 5 - 6 years ago. I think RBoar might have a heart attack if all these future movies end up happening.
http://www.supershadow.com/

StrawHatRican

Wait…

But episodes 7-9 already KIND of exist in the shape of the Jedi Academy and Champions of the Force Arcs.

Not to mention all the Emperor Palpatine Clone and the Skywalker family saga that spans all the way thru Luke's Great Grandson.

Malintex_Terek

SW remakes would send me to the insane asylum.

StrawHatRican

Wait…

Remakes?

O_o'?

sanji499

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/17/star-tours-2-grand-opening-dates-announced/

Lucas has completed the circle. He has become Jabba.

GumGumBattleAxe

Read this people:

http://www.geekstir.com/deadpool-star-wars

StrawHatRican

LMAO!

Good ol' Deadpool.

GumGumBattleAxe

@StrawHatRican:

LMAO!

Good ol' Deadpool.

Hahaha that had me laughing for quite a while…I hold Deadpool's opinion.

StrawHatRican

Hard not to agree with him.

Those prequels REALLY became ammo for Trekkies against Star Wars.

More so when their Star Trek movie came out recently and showed how to do a proper contemporary version of a sci fi franchise.

GumGumBattleAxe

@StrawHatRican:

Hard not to agree with him.

Those prequels REALLY became ammo for Trekkies against Star Wars.

More so when their Star Trek movie came out recently and showed how to do a proper contemporary version of a sci fi franchise.

Hahahaha I am a hardcore fan of both Trek and Wars, just about equally.
Last year's Trek film blew SO MANY PEOPLE AWAY…...see, the new trek movie was MADE to get folks back into Trek and make new fans of a new generation. The last three Star Wars films (I, II, and III) were made because George Lucas didn't feel like HIS story was told fully and that HE wanted them made the way HE wanted.

StrawHatRican

I can get behind his creative freedom as the creator of Star Wars for sure.

But man… he REALLY needs to leave directing to more able people.

I know it's HIS world and all but... when fan made movies and or games evoke more emotion and have a more polished look than the real deal, you KNOW something is up.

Funny thing about the Star Trek movie is that J.J. Abrams is a Star Wars guy and he NEVER liked the Star Trek series... he made the movie how a Star Wars fan would envision it...and it worked!

GumGumBattleAxe

@StrawHatRican:

I can get behind his creative freedom as the creator of Star Wars for sure.

But man… he REALLY needs to leave directing to more able people.

I know it's HIS world and all but... when fan made movies and or games evoke more emotion and have a more polished look than the real deal, you KNOW something is up.

Well when Episode III came out, and parents of star wars kids under 13 the country over discovered that it was rated PG-13, they freaked out on George Lucas, and his answer was "Sorry, but what I put into this film I needed to put in it for the sake of telling my story."

In other words, "I don't care. I can make movies how I WANT MUHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Perhaps that was a tad cynical, but hey…