Strongest Pirate

Tyki Mikk

So who do you guys think is the current strongest pirate? And please don't say whitebeard, why? Because he's not the strongest pirate, sure he's been dubbed the "strongest person" in the world and during Gol D. Roger's time, he was maybe the 2nd strongest, but that was during his "era" and that has since long past. Now he's just a strong man connected to a bunch of nurses and medicine. Heck i"m not even sure he can last in a fight against Shanks, he may be able to hold his own for awhile but pretty soon, he'll lose because of his age and sickness.

So think, during this era who's the strongest? In my opinion its either Blackbeard or Mihawk. Blackbeard, because it seemed that he took down Ace without any difficulty, and he was able to injury Shanks without his logia powers, plus i don't think we've even seen his full power yet. Mihawk, well because he's the strongest swordsmen AND he can cut down giant ships with one swing. And that to him was like swatting a fly.

Your opinion!

King Kobra

The Strongest Pirate is probably Buggy. I bet the secret of One Piece is hidden in his nose because Roger loved clowns…

Think about it. Buggy's like the only character capable of achieving something like creating an atomic explosion of sorts.

Gorlom

I'm pretty sure WB is still strong despite the IV and nurses. if he wasnt he'd succumb to shanks spirit.

Iirc WB still holds the strongest title (dont remember the wording but it was mentioned in connection to revealing he is the closest to OP)

Tyki Mikk

i didn't say WB wasn't still strong, i just said he isn't the strongest anymore

yes it was revealed by Buggy that he was the closest to OP because of his past of being able to fight evenly with the pirate king.

FireFistAce 0

The title is current, otherwise he still wouldn't be called the strongest.

As for the second strongest? I'm gonna go on a limb and say Shanks or Kaidou. Shanks and Mihawk are tied for third, probably.

Tyki Mikk

the reason WB still has that title is because the yonkou or others haven't tried to challenge him yet, but Blackbeard is on the process of doing that and I'm positive he will succeed.

Shanks, in my opinion is not stronger than Mihawk. Shanks is a pirate/swordsmen. And it was said that he was Mihawk's greatest "rival". It didn't say he was able to beat Mihawk. Meaning that he lost each time he fought against Mihawk, so I think, if Mihawk was not a member of the shicibukai, he would probably take shank's place as one of the yonkou

AD-HD Pirate

I'll say Whitebeard is strongest pirate right now.

But that will change.

GrizzlayLeslay

Whitebeard is considered the strongest, but yeah. He won't be for long.

The great event mentioned after Ace vs. Blackbeard probably has something to do with his downfall.

Roman Zaenom

Even though we know absolutely nothing about them, we could assume the current strongest man to be amongst White Beard, Black Beard, Shanks, Mihawk and Dragon… with notable outsiders like the two other Emperors, Sengoku or even Ao Kiji. Really hard to vote though.

In the end, anyway, you know it's going to be Monkey D Luffy. :happy:

Gorlom

Roman Zaenom: think the Topic Creator means pirate when he says "pirate", which would mean aokiji, sengoku, garp and dragon are out of the picture. (ok, It could perhaps have been made clearer, but I'm pretty sure he doesnt want to discuss the marines or revolutionaries or mountain highwaymen.)

Lobster Pot-Sticker

White Beard will always be the strongest, but not necessarily the most powerful. By strongest, they just mean strongest physically. Someone could have greater skill, or a fruit power.

Tyki Mikk

yes I meant pirates so Dragon and sengoku doesn't count

silverson

Luffy is the strongest pirate
followed by shanks and WB (i think shanks is stronger for some reason)
then the other yonkou

zoro and sanji are up there somewhere

Lobster Pot-Sticker

@silverson:

Luffy is the strongest pirate

Are you joking????

Tyki Mikk

luffy is absolutely not the strongest. he is not weak but he is far from being on the list of people considered strongest

Kaze

Roger.
Whitebeard.
Shanks.
Other 2 emperors
Hawkeyes.
Luffy.
Zoro.

IMO of course.

What about Whitebeard being literally the strongest, like he can lift the most weights. that doesnt make him the strongest fighter or the most dangerous, but i think Oda meant he isliterally the strongest in terms of he can bench press a few hundred tonnes

Gorlom

@betus:

What about Whitebeard being literally the strongest, like he can lift the most weights. that doesnt make him the strongest fighter or the most dangerous, but i think Oda meant he isliterally the strongest in terms of he can bench press a few hundred tonnes

Wouldn't half giants or full size giants (and possibly fishmen that has trained really hard) beat him though? or do they not qualify as the "strongest man" because they aren't human?

AlmostLegendary

WB is the strongest to go agaisnt what is side in the manga is ridiclous.

Lobster Pot-Sticker

Zoro
Jyabura
Lafitte

Well, the strongest minds atleast…

ThePenguin

People are asking who the stongest pirate is. Maybe we should check his caption in 151 people! But yeah, like Gerchak said, (I think) The climax of Ace VS BB will change everything.
Oh Noes! I'm turning into Lobster!

Kaze

@ThePenguin:

People are asking who the stongest pirate is. Maybe we should check his caption in 151 people! But yeah, like Gerchak said, (I think) The climax of Ace VS BB will change everything.
Oh Noes! I'm turning into Lobster!

Dun dun dun

16 scared characters.

King Kobra

The strongest pirate is obviously WoopSlap. He was so awesome that he had to turn into a cranky mayor for the sake of the planet.

ThePenguin

@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:

The strongest pirate is obviously WoopSlap. He was so awesome that he had to turn into a cranky mayor for the sake of the planet.

The ask a Stupid Question and get a Stupid Answer thread is over there. Thanks and goodbye.

But just cause he/she started it, i'll go on. Usopp is the strongest pirate! He took down Spanda!

dameon_reaper

Its said in the manga and anime that Whitebeard is the strongest Pirate. For people who think "Oh, he's probably just great at lifting weights", I don't think that's a real deserved title. Whitebeard and Shanks seem to be on the same tier and notice what Mihawk said to Luffy when they met. Luffy said that his mission is Pirate King and Mihawk said "That is even tougher then facing me"

meaning that Mihawk isn't the strongest man but he is probably the strongest swordsman.

ThePenguin

@dameon_reaper:

Its said in the manga and anime that Whitebeard is the strongest Pirate. For people who think "Oh, he's probably just great at lifting weights", I don't think that's a real deserved title. Whitebeard and Shanks seem to be on the same tier and notice what Mihawk said to Luffy when they met. Luffy said that his mission is Pirate King and Mihawk said "That is even tougher then facing me"

meaning that Mihawk isn't the strongest man but he is probably the strongest swordsman.

^Well said. Here's a thought, Whitebeard DOES have the title, but whatever happened to the fight with him and Shanks? Maybe the winner will be known as the Stongest Man. Maybe in a climactic ending, Luffy will have to fight Shanks. Mihawk did say that it would be tough to become Pirate King and he does know Shanks and his strength (Mihawk and Shanks fought before. When Mihawk showed Shanks Luffy's 30 million bounty poster, Mihawk said, " I don't fight one-armed has-beens" so it clearly states he used to fight him) and and… Dammit, I forgot the next part... But you get the idea... I hope.

dameon_reaper

@ThePenguin:

^Well said. Here's a thought, Whitebeard DOES have the title, but whatever happened to the fight with him and Shanks? Maybe the winner will be known as the Stongest Man. Maybe in a climactic ending, Luffy will have to fight Shanks. Mihawk did say that it would be tough to become Pirate King and he does know Shanks and his strength (Mihawk and Shanks fought before. When Mihawk showed Shanks Luffy's 30 million bounty poster, Mihawk said, " I don't fight one-armed has-beens" so it clearly states he used to fight him) and and… Dammit, I forgot the next part... But you get the idea... I hope.

What fight? Shanks and Whitebeard only talked and drank. Afterwards, Shanks left and then I think the Blackbeard fight started or Thriller bark started but either way, if Shanks is an Emperor then I don't think Shanks is even weaker. Mihawk probably said that to make fun of him because I see Shanks and Mihawk as buddies because Mihawk seems to go and meet Shanks every now and then.

ThePenguin

@dameon_reaper:

What fight? Shanks and Whitebeard only talked and drank. Afterwards, Shanks left and then I think the Blackbeard fight started or Thriller bark started but either way, if Shanks is an Emperor then I don't think Shanks is even weaker. Mihawk probably said that to make fun of him because I see Shanks and Mihawk as buddies because Mihawk seems to go and meet Shanks every now and then.

They clashed weapons and the clouds parted. I think that was the start of a fight. And yes, buddies who have friendly scruffles like me and my friends XD. Wasn't the only person to beat Gol D. Roger whitebeard? Or was it a draw? Or compete… But that says that Whitebeard is strong. He's also the closest to Raftel. He might stay at Raftel and protect his title, and Luffy will come and beat the crap out of him! But there are a lot of thoeries with Ace, Shanks, Whitebeard, Blackbeard, Merman Island, and the other Shichibukai. We'll have to wait and see. I'm gonna crash for the night, i'll reply tomorrow.

silverson

sorry guys i almost thought it made sense for the main character who aspires to be pirate king to be the strongest.

dameon_reaper

@silverson:

sorry guys i almost thought it made sense for the main character who aspires to be pirate king to be the strongest.

well its not like Naruto or Bleach where everything is so obvious while in One Piece, Luffy isn't considered strong even when he defeats Kuro, Don Krieg, or Arlong…because Mihawk was able to defeat Zoro without even being touched at that time.

ThePenguin

@silverson:

sorry guys i almost thought it made sense for the main character who aspires to be pirate king to be the strongest.

He WILL be, but not right now. Right now, it's– why am I explaining this again. Just read the entire 1 page of this thread. ENTIRE. THING. Even the walls of text. Now to bed! I forgot to go to bed. Oh darn. But NOW I will!

Mad_Scientist

@ThePenguin:

He WILL be, but not right now. Right now, it's– why am I explaining this again. Just read the entire 1 page of this thread. ENTIRE. THING. Even the walls of text. Now to bed! I forgot to go to bed. Oh darn. But NOW I will!

Right now? I think that would be Blackbeard, unless it's a pirate we haven't been introduced to yet. I know Whitebeard has the title, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is currently the stongest man or even pirate. It just means that ever since Whitebeard achieved that title (my guess is he got it right after the death of Gold Roger), no one has yet proved it wrong.

Blackbeard has yet to test himself against Whitebeard though. I think that when they do fight, which I think will be soon, Blackbeard will win and claim the title.

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@ThePenguin:

They clashed weapons and the clouds parted. I think that was the start of a fight. And yes, buddies who have friendly scruffles like me and my friends XD. Wasn't the only person to beat Gol D. Roger whitebeard? Or was it a draw? Or compete… But that says that Whitebeard is strong. He's also the closest to Raftel. He might stay at Raftel and protect his title, and Luffy will come and beat the crap out of him! But there are a lot of thoeries with Ace, Shanks, Whitebeard, Blackbeard, Merman Island, and the other Shichibukai. We'll have to wait and see. I'm gonna crash for the night, i'll reply tomorrow.

Nah, Shanks said he wasn't there to start a war, and even the other underlings said that it was a minor dissagrement.
The strongetst PERSON might not even be WB…maybe it's sengoku or Akainu.
Also, no way is WB just the best at lifting weights. I doubt he holds a candle to Dorry or Broggy in that respect, but no doubt he could still kick thier asses.

CLERICSHADOW

@Kitsune::

Nah, Shanks said he wasn't there to start a war, and even the other underlings said that it was a minor dissagrement.
The strongetst PERSON might not even be WB…maybe it's sengoku or Akainu.
Also, no way is WB just the best at lifting weights. I doubt he holds a candle to Dorry or Broggy in that respect, but no doubt he could still kick thier asses.

Nice even though we are talking about Pirates…not sengoku or akainu....

BUTTTT Whitebeard is the strongest...he has the title...so thats that...

Thats like saying "MAN MIHAWK IS NOT THE STRONGEST SWORDSMAN, HE WAS JUST STRONG FOR HIS TIME! I BET THERE ARE STRONGER SWORDSMAN THEN HIM!!" When he is holding the title for strongest swordsman...

Titles are given out for a reason...

dameon_reaper

@Kitsune::

Nah, Shanks said he wasn't there to start a war, and even the other underlings said that it was a minor dissagrement.
The strongetst PERSON might not even be WB…maybe it's sengoku or Akainu.
Also, no way is WB just the best at lifting weights. I doubt he holds a candle to Dorry or Broggy in that respect, but no doubt he could still kick thier asses.

well I didn't mean that its where his strength lies, I was talking to the guy who said "he might be the strongest man in the world as in physical but there are probably stronger people then him" so eh…lol

Titles ARE there for a reason ^.^

Skull Kid

I want to see where Dragon ranks on this list. Too bad I'll be waiting a while for that. : /

Archtyrant

Well technically the title was presented to him at chapter 151. It's been more than 200 chapters since then. Anything can happen.

And, going by the way the story seems to be going, my bet's on Blackbeard being the strongest, not just pirate, but person in the One Piece world.

Why?

1. He shares the same traits as Luffy.

2. He has the most evil, awesome fruit in the world. With his kind of physique, I'd say his fruit powers are among the most destructive now.

3. Oda's favourite pirate is Edward Teach, who was also known as Blackbeard. Meaning that Edward Newgate is old stuff and Marshall D. Teach is incoming. (Edward => Teach)

4. He looks so confident, despite probably having seen Whitebeard's strength (he WAS a former member of the WB crew), that it's convincing when he says that he, and not WB, is going to be the next Pirate King.

And please, no obvious signs yet, but don't let this become another Shanks vs Mihawk thread..

h3h3h3

Blackbeard and the other Yonkou. Possibly mystery Shichibukai. But hey! Shichibukai's are not pirates so probably Yonkou or Kaidou.

forgion

Personally i believe that the strongest pirate for 10 minutes
was Nightmare Luffy.

After that Whitbeard, black beard needs a little more time
to practice his devil fruit like luffy does to traain his physical
abilities.

Robin Stjernberg

Haha. It is stated by Oda himself that Whitebeard IS the strongest. It doesn't say he was the strongest. In book 25 and the time frame of it, he IS the strongest.
But I do believe a lot of people will, soon, be stronger than him. Blackbeard is one of them.
But when we saw WB for the first time, he was, in all senses the strongest. How in the hell can anyone argue against it?

AlmostLegendary

@Archtyrant:

Well technically the title was presented to him at chapter 151. It's been more than 200 chapters since then. Anything can happen.

And, going by the way the story seems to be going, my bet's on Blackbeard being the strongest, not just pirate, but person in the One Piece world.

Why?

1. He shares the same traits as Luffy.

2. He has the most evil, awesome fruit in the world. With his kind of physique, I'd say his fruit powers are among the most destructive now.

3. Oda's favourite pirate is Edward Teach, who was also known as Blackbeard. Meaning that Edward Newgate is old stuff and Marshall D. Teach is incoming. (Edward => Teach)

4. He looks so confident, despite probably having seen Whitebeard's strength (he WAS a former member of the WB crew), that it's convincing when he says that he, and not WB, is going to be the next Pirate King.

And please, no obvious signs yet, but don't let this become another Shanks vs Mihawk thread..

Ave v Black beard was an even fight I don't think black beard could defeat WB 1st in command or even white beard. I don't think that black beard holds a candle to Enel in terms of DF. The thing about Logia is that it seems that their DF can only put them to a certain level and it seems as if he's on the same level if not a lil stronger than Ace. If blackbeard was pushed to the extent of his abilities by Ace i don't see much growth from Blackbeard. How can a logia's power become stronger? BlackBeard doesn't seem to posses much physical abilities so i really don't see how he can grow in strength anymore that what is he at right now.

Kitsune9-TailedBeast

@MonkeyDMalcolm:

Ave v Black beard was an even fight I don't think black beard could defeat WB 1st in command or even white beard. I don't think that black beard holds a candle to Enel in terms of DF. The thing about Logia is that it seems that their DF can only put them to a certain level and it seems as if he's on the same level if not a lil stronger than Ace. If blackbeard was pushed to the extent of his abilities by Ace i don't see much growth from Blackbeard. How can a logia's power become stronger? BlackBeard doesn't seem to posses much physical abilities so i really don't see how he can grow in strength anymore that what is he at right now.

Each division leader is equal imo. It's never been stated that any is supirior. I think his crew is divided into equal segments, each led by equal leaders.

ctarlong910

I think Kitsune is right, It's like in school when the teacher divides the class into groups, group 1 isn't smarter then group 2, they were just made first.

h3h3h3

@MonkeyDMalcolm:

Ave v Black beard was an even fight I don't think black beard could defeat WB 1st in command or even white beard. I don't think that black beard holds a candle to Enel in terms of DF. The thing about Logia is that it seems that their DF can only put them to a certain level and it seems as if he's on the same level if not a lil stronger than Ace. If blackbeard was pushed to the extent of his abilities by Ace i don't see much growth from Blackbeard. How can a logia's power become stronger? BlackBeard doesn't seem to posses much physical abilities so i really don't see how he can grow in strength anymore that what is he at right now.

Nah, he said he has become the strongest man on earth even when he was with WB so long. And it wasn't even BB made a showcase of his fruit while Ace kept cheapshotting. And it was quite funny, his only reaction to Ace's fire attacks made him go ''hot! hot! hothothtothot!'', obviously he was playing around.

AlmostLegendary

@Kitsune::

Each division leader is equal imo. It's never been stated that any is supirior. I think his crew is divided into equal segments, each led by equal leaders.

that makes a lil since but i figured that everything was a highearchy.

I def don't think that he was playing around with Ace during the fight

Kishido

Hmm dunno… but most likely Sanji...

He is a beast without using his hands... Sorry bad joke!!! xD

I would say Whitebeard but can't prove that... I'm not going just over titles... Same thing goes for bounties

ctarlong910

KiShiDo, at first I thought you were serious aboutt sanji, I was like "wow this guy is so dumb,"

I'd say one of the beards is the strongest.

dameon_reaper

Until Blackbeard has some kind of note under his character at one point of time saying "The Strongest Man in the World" Whitebeard is definitely stronger. Blackbeard is great against DF users but against anyone else I think he isn't that strong. Luffy and Blackbeard have something in common and that's they both have a small crew, in which they tend to grow overtime. Blackbeard will definitely be stronger then Whitebeard if Luffy fights him before Raftel or even on Raftel.

As for Edward Teach being his favorite pirate, that's right, he was Oda's favorite but just because he was doesn't mean he's going to go Kishimoto with Sasuke…I don't think Oda chooses favorites, he goes by how he wants his story...and not how the fans want it.

Tyki Mikk

@dameon_reaper:

Its said in the manga and anime that notice what Mihawk said to Luffy when they met. Luffy said that his mission is Pirate King and Mihawk said "That is even tougher then facing me"

meaning that Mihawk isn't the strongest man but he is probably the strongest swordsman.

that is true. But i don't think thats what he meant. He probably meant the process of reaching raftel and finding one piece. CAuse I don't think to become king you don't have to beat every strong pirate you see or beat whitebeard. all you have to do is reach raftel and find one piece and according to mihawk that would be hard because no one is sure if one piece really exist or not, no one but Roger.

And to those who thinks Shanks is not weaker than Mihawk, he is. I mentioned it before, shanks is a pirate/swordsmen and so is mihawk, meaning their main way of fighting is to use swords. And shanks has been dubbed "Mihawk's greatest rival." This does not mean that he is stronger, in fact he is weaker than Mihawk, because it never said that he was able to beat mihawk but was the only one to give mihawk a decent fight and that was when he still had two arms. So now considering that he lost his arm, he is probably weaker than he was before so yes shanks is weaker than mihawk and mihawk could be a yonkou if he wasn't a shicibukai

dameon_reaper

@Tyki:

that is true. But i don't think thats what he meant. He probably meant the process of reaching raftel and finding one piece. CAuse I don't think to become king you don't have to beat every strong pirate you see or beat whitebeard. all you have to do is reach raftel and find one piece and according to mihawk that would be hard because no one is sure if one piece really exist or not, no one but Roger.

And to those who thinks Shanks is not weaker than Mihawk, he is. I mentioned it before, shanks is a pirate/swordsmen and so is mihawk, meaning their main way of fighting is to use swords. And shanks has been dubbed "Mihawk's greatest rival." This does not mean that he is stronger, in fact he is weaker than Mihawk, because it never said that he was able to beat mihawk but was the only one to give mihawk a decent fight and that was when he still had two arms. So now considering that he lost his arm, he is probably weaker than he was before so yes shanks is weaker than mihawk and mihawk could be a yonkou if he wasn't a shicibukai

but if you don't remember, the only way to get to One Piece is to defeat anyone in your way. There are still guys that are closer to One Piece then Luffy is and I bet when they do reach Raftel, they'll have to race a crew to get to it….because Whitebeard has been in the New World for awhile and has yet to find One Piece.