WE recently found out that Gecko Moria has the KAge KAge no Mi and Blackbeard has the Yami Yami no mi. Who would win? Darkness or shadow?
I think becauase the darkness technically is a "shadow" moria wuld own.
WE recently found out that Gecko Moria has the KAge KAge no Mi and Blackbeard has the Yami Yami no mi. Who would win? Darkness or shadow?
I think becauase the darkness technically is a "shadow" moria wuld own.
You should really put a spoiler tag for this Thread. And, Black-Beard wins due to his ability to neutralize his opponents ability.
no please no vs thread =(
@Sea:
What's wrong with Versus threads?
**Nothing, it's just they have a habit of consuming certain members and eating at the forums.
anyway BB wins.**
Blackbeard obviously wins. Do you really think Moria would win? Luffy is most likely going to beat him in the Florian Triangle arc… whats the point of Blackbeard being around if Luffy can beat him since he beat Moria. Also, Blackbeard scarred Shanks without his devil fruit. I really doubt Luffy is stronger than a Yonkou already.
maybe we could discuss what the individuals can do in combat rather then who would win in a battle?
Moria seems to have a OHKO by stealing the shadow.
BB's abilities are nothing connected to Moria. Please, just understand this already. BB's GRAVITY.
Moria has the ability to solid things that don't exist. Areas with no light.
BB's spreading his black hole with his gravity, that suck even light in. That's why they're black. They're not areas that are created because a material is blocking the light.
I know I suck at English, but try to understand it.
Okay. Let's say you understood that they're completely random opponents.
Result is obvious, already stated too much. :\
Shadows can only exist when there is a matter blocking light. That mean there needs to be light in the first place. But as Rai said, BB's gravity sucks in everything, and even light connot escape. That would mean Moria's power cannot be applied to BB's darkness.
BB, on the other hand, has the ability to neutralize his opponents. Hang on… does that only work on those paramecias who can change the shapes of their bodies? Oh well. It still means Moria's power would not work.
Therefore, BB owns.
ofcourse BB will win
maybe we could discuss what the individuals can do in combat rather then who would win in a battle?
Moria seems to have a OHKO by stealing the shadow.
hopefully moria OHKO not on luffy,
seem like moria are the kind that lazy to move. and his DF power are much more greater then his fighting abilities. like don flamingo…
his greatest power is his shadow's zombie force and his strong subordinates.
if SH's crew can finish off moria's subordinates,
then the last "true" boss will be
luffy vs zombie luffy
zorro vs zombie zorro
weakling trio vs his crew member zombie...
@Sea:
You should really put a spoiler tag for this Thread. And, Black-Beard wins due to his ability to neutralize his opponents ability.
I know I love Moria-sama, but I have to think logically here, so Blackbeard would win.
Hmm I think, even though we haven't seen him fight, from what we know, Moria's power comes from being able to control zombies that become his arms and legs.
This ability, as stated in the latest chapter, has a huge flaw. He cannot control zombies that are too powerful for him. Even Sanji, arguably the third strongest in the SH's crew now, could resist control by sticking to his principles.
I think it's safe to say that Blackbeard, even without his Darkness fruit, would be way too much above Moria's level, scarring Shanks like he did. With his fruit, he defeated THE Hiken no Ace, Commander of the Whitebeard crew 2nd Corp.
There's no challenge here.
Anyway, like many pointed out, Blackbeard could simply nullify Moria's power.
Blackbeard wins, at least in my book.
Hmm I think, even though we haven't seen him fight, from what we know, Moria's power comes from being able to control zombies that become his arms and legs.
This ability, as stated in the latest chapter, has a huge flaw. He cannot control zombies that are too powerful for him. Even Sanji, arguably the third strongest in the SH's crew now, could resist control by sticking to his principles.
No he cant controll thoose zombies… BUT he still seems to be able to knock people (that are "stronger" then him) out since he can toss them into the sea when they arent suiteble as zombies.
With his fruit, he defeated THE Hiken no Ace, Commander of the Whitebeard crew 2nd Corp.
…...........
Gorlom: yeap that's basically what i'm saying. Haha it feels good to be back in the forums after so long.
Traitor Jim: Oops I guess that was an assumption on my part. We haven't actually seen the conclusion to the end of that battle yet. However, based on the hints we received, such as 1. Shanks mentioned something like " Ace is strong, i know that. He's young but he's the the commander of your 2nd division, and that trust twists things… No one will be able to stop this rampaging era!" and later, the authors line after the BB/Ace fight "many would say that the conclusion of this fight was the cause of an upcoming great battle" and 2. we see Ace's hat on the floor after the fight and some others.
Still, what's with the face? '_'? D:
WE recently found out that Gecko Moria has the KAge KAge no Mi and Blackbeard has the Yami Yami no mi. Who would win? Darkness or shadow?
I think becauase the darkness technically is a "shadow" moria wuld own.
THE MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION IS HOW LIGHT, LIFE AND THE HUMAN SOUL ARE CONNECTED IN THE ONE PIECE WORLD!!!!!
Still, what's with the face? '_'? D:
Because I'm still in denial, despite all the evidence you've just pointed out =P In my La La Land, young and good-looking people always triumph over the ugly and scary ones. Yes, I'm shallow and dumb, but this is the intrawebz, so I'm allowed to be.:ninja:
Tell me more about this La La Land, it sounds like a great place. is it open to tourists? got any great sites one should visit while there?
and most importantly how are the cookies?
The La La Land is right beside Sogeking Island, in your heart. You can always visit there anytime when you feel like you need a rest from this harrowing world we call "reality". Over there, dogs in fairy tu-tus serve you cookies made of rainbows and chocolate chips. They are fantastic.
WE recently found out that Gecko Moria has the KAge KAge no Mi and Blackbeard has the Yami Yami no mi. Who would win? Darkness or shadow?
I think becauase the darkness technically is a "shadow" moria wuld own.
It seems some people still haven't understood the power of the Darkness fruit; it's more like a "nil" fruit, it annihilates just everything.
No, Blackbeard's power is attraction, or gravity. Zero-point. It doesn't "nullify" the effect, as Blackbeard still feels pain. It allows him to "pull" the person to him and react with him, thus why he is able to strike other Logia, but they can strike him.
If you want the true power of "Muten", or "Empty Heaven", you want this guy:
!
The Darkness fruit is indeed a gravity fruit, but it also does have another characteristic of taking away another person's DF powers by touching them. It's the reason why it's called the "most evil of the DFs" other than due to its destructive powers.
But that power isn't without its weakness. Even though it's a Logia, he can't simply dodge physical attacks like other Logias are able to do. That's the drawback of being able, and only able to, absorb another's power.
Hm.. Yami[rational] vs Kage[irrational]..
I prefer Yami, because it's rational.. :p
No, Yami could nullify other DF it's the most evil fruit:ninja:..
If Moria wants to grab his shadow, he could easily unleash "Black Smoke" and covered the ground with darkness, no shadow seen.. :devil:AND CRUSH MORIA:devil: into pieces..
Um, Ace is IMO above the 320 Million Berri Pirates, and as we saw BB > Ace!
Blackbeard could use Gecko as his personal toilet.
Um, Ace is IMO above the 320 Million Berri Pirates, and as we saw BB > Ace!
Blackbeard could use Gecko as his personal toilet.
Enel would be judged higher then Luffy in strenght if he fought anyone else but luffy.
Luffy beat Enel because Enels logia had no effect on Luffys rubber body
My point is Bounties arent everything. every DF seems to have a natural enemy and there is someone out there that can beat BlackBeard that may or may not be considered weak in the eyes of others.
Enel would be judged higher then Luffy in strenght if he fought anyone else but luffy.
Luffy beat Enel because Enels logia had no effect on Luffys rubber body
My point is Bounties arent everything. every DF seems to have a natural enemy and there is someone out there that can beat BlackBeard that may or may not be considered weak in the eyes of others.
Yes! Yes! Definetely!
And Buggy will :devil:kick:devil: Teach butt out of OP