Or even that Yonkou that picked a fight with Whitebeard. It's borderline garunteed that she's one of the two.
Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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Also, when is it going to occur to luffy that he could probably use his fuusen move to inhale a bunch of air and simply blow smoker away?
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I think the notion that Smoker's vulnrability to wind is silly. If he gets blown away in smoke form, he'll just come back when the gust is over with. And with lung power, that won't take long.
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Wouldn't it be cool it Brooke or Zoro will have a Kairoseki sword?…
Oh ... I think Kuma's cyborg body is composed of a kairoseki alloy, Im not sure how vegapunk cancelled its effect on the DF user though... still cant be explained... LOL
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Hmm. Well whilst it would be an interesting idea Renegadesoul, it wouldn't really be practical. And Brook doesn't have muscles anymore, so with its' incredible weight I don't think he'd be able to wield it. Zoro on the other hand probably has the strength, though it may be too unwieldy for him due to the weight. Stronger swings, but too little control I think. Still, would be nice to see more seastone weaponry out there. I suppose it depends if it can be sharpened enough so that it would cut though when it comes to blades.
Plus, it wouldn't be an alloy. Kairouseki translates to Seastone right? Which implies it's a form of rock, not really a metal. So it'd be a composite. Composites are all well and good, but unless it was like Kevlar, with lots of interwoven strands to build up the bullet resistance, it wouldn't really work in terms of defense. It's not exactly slash friendly either, as it's a cloth. Nylon isn't the strongest thing either, even though it can be used to make components and the like. So yeah, interesting ideas but materially I don't think it would work. He seemed very much metallic when Zoro cut him open. Broad generalisation: you don't really get composites that emulate metals.
Unless we're just going to say Oda can do whatever the hell he wants, ignoring material structure, and claim Kokutou Yoru (Mihawk's sword…I think that's it from memory) is kairouseki. Which would be entertaining that he has such control over such a heavy sword.
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Maybe just the Pacifistas have seastone armor. If they have enough of it for warship hulls, then they have plenty for giant robot armor.
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The guy at Weatheria will (probably) turn out to have some tie to Dragon's Revolution. While this may have no immediate impact on the story, I suspect that Dragon and Luffy are going to cross paths directly at some point, if only briefly. I wonder how Dragon feels about Luffy travelling around in close quarters with beautiful, angry women?
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Hmm. Well whilst it would be an interesting idea Renegadesoul, it wouldn't really be practical. And Brook doesn't have muscles anymore, so with its' incredible weight I don't think he'd be able to wield it. Zoro on the other hand probably has the strength, though it may be too unwieldy for him due to the weight. Stronger swings, but too little control I think. Still, would be nice to see more seastone weaponry out there. I suppose it depends if it can be sharpened enough so that it would cut though when it comes to blades.
Plus, it wouldn't be an alloy. Kairouseki translates to Seastone right? Which implies it's a form of rock, not really a metal. So it'd be a composite. Composites are all well and good, but unless it was like Kevlar, with lots of interwoven strands to build up the bullet resistance, it wouldn't really work in terms of defense. It's not exactly slash friendly either, as it's a cloth. Nylon isn't the strongest thing either, even though it can be used to make components and the like. So yeah, interesting ideas but materially I don't think it would work. He seemed very much metallic when Zoro cut him open. Broad generalisation: you don't really get composites that emulate metals.
Unless we're just going to say Oda can do whatever the hell he wants, ignoring material structure, and claim Kokutou Yoru (Mihawk's sword…I think that's it from memory) is kairouseki. Which would be entertaining that he has such control over such a heavy sword.
Hmmm… good points.
well about the kairoseki swords... In Brooke's case what if it was shaped to resemble more of a foil the one they use in fencing, it is shaped to be light and flexible... well if I remember correctly smoker has a jutte type kairoseki weapon too that he is able to swing without that much effort.
Hmmm... yes unless it is possible to melt kairoseki, then an alloy wont be possible but still its the OP world so the possibility of it happening is still high. hehe
Oh btw.. iron comes from ores right? maybe they obtained kairoseki ores which can be melted to blend with steel...hehe wat do you think?
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Everything Dragon could possibly feel and think about Luffy was summed up in Loguetown.
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Perhaps. But back at Loguetown, we had no idea that Dragon was at the head of a new sexual revolution that wants to rid the world of such restrictive social hierarchies as gender and nationhood. After Drum we knew the guy was a revolutionary, but his vision of total anarchy had not yet been established.
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The guy at Weatheria will (probably) turn out to have some tie to Dragon's Revolution. While this may have no immediate impact on the story, I suspect that Dragon and Luffy are going to cross paths directly at some point, if only briefly. I wonder how Dragon feels about Luffy travelling around in close quarters with beautiful, angry women?
Hmm… Dragon must have brought a lot of those tied up ropes in logue town... hehe
Im still hovering on the thought that nami can somehow increase the range and power of the climatact through watever she learns and obtain in weatheria.
Strong violent winds... Hmmm I wonder how big an area effect she will have with those things... not to mention power boost... hehe
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So long as the sails can withstand the pressure, the wind knots would also make a handy way to cross the Calm Belt, allowing travel from the Blue Seas to the Grand Line (and vice-versa). May have something to do with how the crew is brought back together, too.
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So long as the sails can withstand the pressure, the wind knots would also make a handy way to cross the Calm Belt, allowing travel from the Blue Seas to the Grand Line (and vice-versa). May have something to do with how the crew is brought back together, too.
Oh..it just occured to me… I think the marines are using those knots to cross the Calm belt.. even though they may not be detected by the sea kings they still need enough power to move their huge ships right? Hmmm. :ermm:
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I have a theory that Arlong had a disagreement with Jimbei about mermen being superior to humans, which is why he was trying to take over East Blue and establish it as a merman empire. perhaps because of all the prejudice against them.
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Actually, Arlong's motive became partially obvious the moment Hancock revealed her past. That he disagreed with Jinbei became appearent as soon as the latter was introduced.
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Karakuri Island is the birthplace of Vegapunk …
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Hmmm… good points.
well about the kairoseki swords... In Brooke's case what if it was shaped to resemble more of a foil the one they use in fencing, it is shaped to be light and flexible... well if I remember correctly smoker has a jutte type kairoseki weapon too that he is able to swing without that much effort.
Hmmm... yes unless it is possible to melt kairoseki, then an alloy wont be possible but still its the OP world so the possibility of it happening is still high. hehe
Oh btw.. iron comes from ores right? maybe they obtained kairoseki ores which can be melted to blend with steel...hehe wat do you think?
The point of fencing swords is that they're flexible, as you've said :). From the looks of the handcuffs, nets (now my theory on this is that they've got lots of little bars which have been joined together by hinges, but I could be wrong) and bars we've seen made out of the stuff, it's pretty safe to say it isn't flexible. It'd be more realistic to have a kairouseki blade of what he's got now, a shikomizue. However, I still think it would be too heavy for him, and it would reduce his speed (which is his most deadly aspect) pretty badly due to the weight. Smoker is a pretty strong looking man, and he's only wielding the one jutte with both hands, giving him more control. I can't recall ever seeing him use just the one hand with it, and by extension it'd probably be too heavy to be one of Zoro's three. He'd have to get something almost/just as heavy just to counterbalance the difference, otherwise his stance would be ruined.
Yeah, iron does come from an ore, but it's still a metal. Kairouseki to me just implies that it's a rock, not an ore. I suppose it's entirely possible that its' structure is crystalline, or that it does contain metal, but I think the point of it was sort of that this stuff is way stronger than diamond, which is just carbon that's bonded in a unique, and incredibly strong way. If it did contain metal, that probably wouldn't be what had the properties of the actual seastone as a whole; I reckon it'd just be a metal.
Just had a thought though. Remember when Conis/Pagaya was explaining what allowed the clouds in Skypiea to form? Something to do with Pyrobloin. I think it was elaborated on that it was like sulphur particles in the air that were expelled from volcanoes, and was related to Kairouseki. So in that case, I guess it's entirely possible that Kairouseki is just solidified magma, that came from underwater volcanoes. I'm a bit rusty on rock formations: haven't done geography in a few years, but I guess in that case it'd be possible to take still molten magma and form something out of it. As for re-melting? I can't remember if it's possible. So that might be where it originates, and where the power comes from…
Just a theory, anyway. Sort of popped into my head without warning, and it seemed a bit reasonable. :happy:
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Marco and Shanks are related, they just pretend not to be.
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The point of fencing swords is that they're flexible, as you've said :). From the looks of the handcuffs, nets (now my theory on this is that they've got lots of little bars which have been joined together by hinges, but I could be wrong) and bars we've seen made out of the stuff, it's pretty safe to say it isn't flexible. It'd be more realistic to have a kairouseki blade of what he's got now, a shikomizue. However, I still think it would be too heavy for him, and it would reduce his speed (which is his most deadly aspect) pretty badly due to the weight. Smoker is a pretty strong looking man, and he's only wielding the one jutte with both hands, giving him more control. I can't recall ever seeing him use just the one hand with it, and by extension it'd probably be too heavy to be one of Zoro's three. He'd have to get something almost/just as heavy just to counterbalance the difference, otherwise his stance would be ruined.
Yeah, iron does come from an ore, but it's still a metal. Kairouseki to me just implies that it's a rock, not an ore. I suppose it's entirely possible that its' structure is crystalline, or that it does contain metal, but I think the point of it was sort of that this stuff is way stronger than diamond, which is just carbon that's bonded in a unique, and incredibly strong way. If it did contain metal, that probably wouldn't be what had the properties of the actual seastone as a whole; I reckon it'd just be a metal.
Just had a thought though. Remember when Conis/Pagaya was explaining what allowed the clouds in Skypiea to form? Something to do with Pyrobloin. I think it was elaborated on that it was like sulphur particles in the air that were expelled from volcanoes, and was related to Kairouseki. So in that case, I guess it's entirely possible that Kairouseki is just solidified magma, that came from underwater volcanoes. I'm a bit rusty on rock formations: haven't done geography in a few years, but I guess in that case it'd be possible to take still molten magma and form something out of it. As for re-melting? I can't remember if it's possible. So that might be where it originates, and where the power comes from…
Just a theory, anyway. Sort of popped into my head without warning, and it seemed a bit reasonable. :happy:
Hmmm I guess it would really affect brooke's speed.
Oh.. thats a pretty interesting theory there. What if they can find a way to actually compact the fumes to form a much more solid version of the kairoseki… that would be cool...hehe
How do they haul those things anyways?... they are quite heavy ... :ermm:
Hmmm.... wat about the kairoseki net the one used in ID? Its seems there is a way to embed kairoseki on steel, but its not that strong though... it was destroyed easily by the sphinx... XD
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I've wondered about seastone swords for a long time. It seems to me that since the material is stronger than steel, a sword made out of the stuff would be ideal. However, crafting such a sword would be borderline impossible. That's sort of like thinking that someone could craft a sword out of diamond, it's just not able to be manipulated enough. I think of seastone to be like diamonds, "gems" if you will. So I think the best way to form weapons with them is to set them in metal as you would with a diamond in gold. There are several things I'm somewhat expecting to see the crew develop/find. Usopp with seastone bullets, Sanji with seastone imbedded in the soles of his shoes, Zoro finding a legendary sword with seastone imbedded in it, etc. Stariana, I think you're worrying too much about real world accuracy. I doubt Oda has developed any materials to that much detail.
A couple other theories I want to put out there. First, everyone has theories on whose parents are whose. This applies to Zoro and Nami specifically, though. Luffy, Zoro, Nami, and Usopp were all born around the same time. We know that Dragon and Yasopp were present in East Blue at the time of conception. Therefore, it's reasonable to assume that the red-hair pirates and some revolutionary army leaders were present in East Blue at the time Zoro and Nami were conceived as well. I'm a fan of the Shanks is Nami's father bandwagon, but it seems reasonable to theorize that Zoro and Nami's parents are both somehow related to Shanks or Dragon. Of course, there could be a third group yet unrevealed, as well.
My last theory is a borderline dumb prediction. I'm putting it here though, because I'm already posting and I have a strange feeling about it. I am very short on ideas of how Zoro will get back, and I believe that Nami will meet Dragon for some weather related reason. I have a theory I put together a while ago that Luffy, Zoro, and Nami are the most important 3 people to the story. Therefore, I predict that we're going to get an awesome spread of Dragon showing up at MHQ with Zoro and Nami by his side.
Zoro's new bounty has always been the only new bounty in the crew that exceeded Luffy's previous bounty. For that trend to continue, his next bounty has to be over 300 mil. He'll have to do some pretty amazing things to pull that off. Showing up with Dragon would certainly help that, which is what initially inspired that theory.
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hmm Zoro getting backed… he can ride on Perona's back... wohooo...DF powers... LOL
but the journey might be exhausting though... but Zoro did have rayleigh's biblicard... But then his sense of direction sucks... so he might go to shaboady by accident... wat do you think? Hmm and nami... I think that weather station has some type of vehicle to go down to the surface.
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Nami is going to make her OWN vehicle, I'll bet.
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Nami making her own vehicle, I dont think she can make one herself but Im pretty confident she can drive one, that is already made, like the waiver from skypeia.
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Don't know anything about making swords at all, but I wonder if it is possible to mix seastone in with the metal. Then it could still be a sword, but also cancel df powers in a way. Of course this could just completely weaken the sword and the seastone wouldn't be as powerful as it is on its own…maybe this is just a bad idea.
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You've got a point about her craftsmanship, but I can't help but think that if there's anybody she's not going to rely on, it's not-Usopp.
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Hmmm I think that gorousei with a sword has a kairoseki meitou… woot woot... XD still to be proven.
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Hmmm…. Im not that sure... but wasn't Wapol able to produce a new type of steel?... maybe that is what is being used by KUMA... Hmmm :ermm:
Hmmm... I think it was called Wapol steel...
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Hmmm I think that gorousei with a sword has a kairoseki meitou… woot woot... XD still to be proven.
The hilt of that katana is the same hilt as the Sandei Kitetsu that Zoro has. Therefore, it is likely one of the two higher generation Kitetsu's. Judging by its size, it's likely the first generation model, holding the same rank as Mihawk's.
I don't think Zoro could even find his way to SA if he had someone leading him. He always gets where he's going by some stroke of luck. My prediction for him this time is that he'll run into someone who will take him where he needs to go. In particular, I'm predicting that he'll run into Dragon and Nami, and he'll ask them if they're lost and need help.
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Is mihawk's sword a meitou?
The SH meeting in the middle of going back to SA to me is slim but the chance that it might happen is still there. Meeting in SA is more dramatic for me, it brings the CHILL FACTOR… woot woot XD
Oh another theory: The sword wielding gerousei is Kuina's grandfather... woot woot XD
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Mihawk's sword is one of the 12 legendary swords of the world, the highest rank. One of those 12 swords should be the first generation Kitetsu, and all of the 12 are assumed to be larger than normal. The second generation Kitetsu should be one of the 21 swords (I believe these are the meitou?), of which Zoro already holds two (the Wadou Ichimongi and the Shuusui). The third generation Kitetsu, which Zoro has, is one of the 50 swords.
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Mihawk's sword is one of the 12 legendary swords of the world, the highest rank. One of those 12 swords should be the first generation Kitetsu, and all of the 12 are assumed to be larger than normal. The second generation Kitetsu should be one of the 21 swords (I believe these are the meitou?), of which Zoro already holds two (the Wadou Ichimongi and the Shuusui). The third generation Kitetsu, which Zoro has, is one of the 50 swords.
Oh I see… thanks for the info.
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Yeah, I'm probably looking too deep into it Urogue, but I do/have done geography, chemistry and product design–so you can see why ;). Oda does look as though he's thought about material composition though; I already mentioned Pyrobloin, even though that was only something very briefly touched on. I suppose it doesn't really matter about the structure anyway; its all up to the practicality of 'Can it be sharpened enough to form a meitou/blade?', which is concievably possible if they can craft so much other stuff with it. But yeah. Cutting and forming it, along with the weight are the main issues with it. Would these legendary swords have been created at a time where technology was advanced enough to use something other than steel? Shrugs
I guess it's possible that one of the Oo-wazamono meitou is kairouseki, but we really can't tell considering swords like Shuusui and the Kitetsu's have black blades.
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Did anyone see the latest episode? Chooper's Roseo metal seems ice-based against PX4 in this episode? In the manga it seemed fire-based which could be explained by the friction which comes from Chopper's hooves as he attacks the metal-body from Kuma? But what if he really does a ice-attack? How could that be explained? It start to be a bit strange that each SH has an elemental attack. But like I said… Thinks like DJ or Zoro's attack against Ryuuma seems like friction. Choppers seems like friction too but now ice?
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Did anyone see the latest episode? Chooper's Roseo metal seems ice-based against PX4 in this episode? In the manga it seemed fire-based which could be explained by the friction which comes from Chopper's hooves as he attacks the metal-body from Kuma? But what if he really does a ice-attack? How could that be explained? It start to be a bit strange that each SH has an elemental attack. But like I said… Thinks like DJ or Zoro's attack against Ryuuma seems like friction. Choppers seems like friction too but now ice?
Ice? It was blowing in the wind, and there was no crystaline structure to it at all. I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be smoke.
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I know this is kind of weird, but I think it would be interesting if Sanji and Zoro got back to the boat at the same time (and Perona would be with Zoro since she's not staying on the island by herself… this does NOT necessarily mean that she's joining the crew so please don't jump all over my post for that) and since Sanji has no other clothing except that of the latest manga coverpage and needs to go change Zoro gets one of the best laughs of his life and Sanji will never hear the end of it. Poor Sanji.
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Thought I'd expand on the "Kuma was a part of the Roger Pirates" post that I put in the Dumb Predictions thread since I think I might have some stuff backing it along with some other stuff.
Okay so we know Dragon is known was the world's most wanted criminal. Plus that the main thing the World Government is worried about is knowledge of the "Void Century" along with key specifics like the name of the kingdom the alliance back then opposed(which is likely linked with the initial "D."). In addition, the Roger Pirates learned the above at Raftel, and outside of the Gorousei any surviving crewmembers are likely the only ones who know of it. So what other reason could there be for Dragon being considered that much of a threat? That makes me think Dragon might have been a part of them.
The reason I think Kuma might have been in the Roger Pirates as well is because he's the only one outside of family that knew of Luffy's connection with Dragon aside from Sengoku(Garp pretty much answers that though). I mean not even leaders within the revolutionaries if Ivankov can be an example, knew he bore any children so maybe Kuma knew Dragon before he started trying to topple the World Government; maybe as fellow crewmembers?
Did anyone see the latest episode? Chooper's Roseo metal seems ice-based against PX4 in this episode? In the manga it seemed fire-based which could be explained by the friction which comes from Chopper's hooves as he attacks the metal-body from Kuma? But what if he really does a ice-attack? How could that be explained? It start to be a bit strange that each SH has an elemental attack. But like I said… Thinks like DJ or Zoro's attack against Ryuuma seems like friction. Choppers seems like friction too but now ice?
Manga section.
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Thought I'd expand on the "Kuma was a part of the Roger Pirates" post that I put in the Dumb Predictions thread since I think I might have some stuff backing it along with some other stuff.
Okay so we know Dragon is known was the world's most wanted criminal. Plus that the main thing the World Government is worried about is knowledge of the "Void Century" along with key specifics like the name of the kingdom the alliance back then opposed(which is likely linked with the initial "D."). In addition, the Roger Pirates learned the above at Raftel, and outside of the Gorousei any surviving crewmembers are likely the only ones who know of it. So what other reason could there be for Dragon being considered that much of a threat? That makes me think Dragon might have been a part of them.
The reason I think Kuma might have been in the Roger Pirates as well is because he's the only one outside of family that knew of Luffy's connection with Dragon aside from Sengoku(Garp pretty much answers that though). I mean not even leaders within the revolutionaries if Ivankov can be an example, knew he bore any children so maybe Kuma knew Dragon before he started trying to topple the World Government; maybe as fellow crewmembers?
This is an interesting theory, it makes my brain go several directions at once. I want to look at the possibility that Dragon was on Roger's ship. On the positive side, we can look at the years following Roger's death. Usopp was born, meaning that Yasopp and by association Shanks were probably already in East Blue. Shanks was in East Blue a few years before for Roger's execution anyway. Ace was born a year or two before Usopp, and Luffy a year or two after, so Dragon was also in East Blue over the same time period. It does seem like more than just coincidence that so many powerful people were in the weakest ocean all at the same time. I'd be very surprised if there wasn't some connection.
On the negative side, Roger went through the Grand Line while Garp was in his prime, and probably had the rank of Admiral. Dragon then, would be a kid, and the son of an Admiral. It's definitely possible that he joined Roger's crew, but his crew is quickly filling up with children. Secondly, Shanks and Rayleigh have shown no sign that they know anything of Luffy's parents. When Shanks talks to Rayleigh about Luffy, he really makes it sound like just some random kid that they weren't previously associated with. The reason that Dragon is the most wanted man in the world can easily be explained by the fact that he's the leader of the only army that opposes them.
I think you're onto something, but I don't think you're there yet. Maybe Dragon became who he is after meeting the Roger pirates when they returned to East Blue, or something.
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Actually, Usopp is older than Luffy by a month, not a year.
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ONE PIECE is not a treasure made of gold, gems, and jewels. I just had this thought, If Buggy was part of the Roger's crew and that, he is obsessed with treasures wouldnt he just go to raftel knowing Roger's treasure is there?
Hmmm… or maybe he was made to swore not to get it or its just impossible for him to travel there again that would make sense and would nullify this theory... XD
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Of CORSE it's impossible. With all the deadly seakings and weather in the way, how could a wuss like Buggy manage?
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Actually, Usopp is older than Luffy by a month, not a year.
I had a feeling I was screwing that up. Well, it doesn't change anything since it's still between Luffy's and Ace's birthdays. It actually probably makes things work out better.
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Hmmm Im wondering Y buggy didnt stay in Raftel. He could have had the treasure to himself…. XD
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Hmmm Im wondering Y buggy didnt stay in Raftel. He could have had the treasure to himself…. XD
Captain's orders, dude.
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Theory: The scars on the gorousei members bodies was caused by Fisher Tiger when he attacked Mariejois
OH… ... LOL pardon my noobness... hehe XD
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Actually, that's one of your better theories. I'd like to see a flashback about that.
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Hm… that would mean that Shanks has seen the One Piece and knows what it is Luffy's after, right? Or did Luffy not tell him he wanted to find the One Piece and only wanted to become a great pirate?
About Buggy and Raftel, and how he's only focused on other treasures, maybe he's not interested because he knows what it is, having been on Gol D. Roger's crew and all. Either that or he knows what it is but is trying to amass a great fortune so that once he's really rich he'll head there and add that wealth to his "flashy" fortune and truly be the richest pirate in the OP world. Who knows. But if the One Piece wasn't a big "flashy" pile of gold, it would sort of make sense that Buggy (Omagosh, I accidentally typed "Buffy" XDDD... yeah, it's late and I'm getting tired) wouldn't go after it, right? Or maybe he just doesn't care.
Sorry if my post doesn't make sense in some parts; as noted above, it's getting late.
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Hmm I think so, shanks was in the crew after all. Luffy told him that his gonna form a crew that would be better than shank's and that he would return his hat someday… woot woot
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Being a great pirate is to obtain One Piece.
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@ Stariana
Hmmm…. have you ever wondered about the kairoseki cuffs? It seems like normal strength people being cuffed by it isnt affected by its weight, just like Robin in the the Enies Lobby arc.
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I'm trying to recall how Alvida came by the Sube Sube no Mi, and I don't remember that it was ever stated. So, here's my theory:
First of all, does anyone else remember people in East Blue mentioning the sale of humans? Higuma the Bear mentioned that he might sell Luffy, before deciding to kill him instead. Nami told Luffy that he might be sold off by Buggy. So, right there you have two mentions of slavery way back in East Blue. This brings me back to my theory.
The first time we saw post-DF Alvida, her crew was nowhere in sight. In Buggy's flashback, it was mentioned that Devil Fruits could sell for as much as one hundred million Berries. Is it possible that Alvida sold her own crew to amass enough money to buy a Devil Fruit?