Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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Mihawk is like Kanye West…ppl only scared of him bcuz hes kinda crazy and dangerous...hes only got 1 friend Jayz i mean Shanks no 2 mention hes really cocky too and nobody in the OP world likes him..mayb kanye has a long black sword too!!
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Here's my take on the whole ID situation. Luffy will fight Magellan till Magellan goes to the toliet then Luffy will head down to save Ace . Before reaching Ace Luffy will meet up with Mr 1 and fight against the demon guards. But not before long Buggy and Mr 3 joins them as they were unable to defeat the forces that guards the stairs to the lower floors. After freeing Ace and Jimbei ,Magellan arrives and fight Jimbei, Ace and Luffy. Just as Magellan is about to lose he activates a program that traps Ace, Jinbei and Luffy in the cell but not before Ace saves Luffy and Jinbei. Leaving Ace with Magellan instead the cell, as time past the walls of the cells which is made of seastone starts to close . During the whole ruckus Croc was freed , Luffy goes into Gear 3 and together with Jinbei tries to destroy the cell but failed. Just when they thought Ace was dead Magellan deactivated the cell's program and they got out of the cell. As the whole gang starts to leave level 5 , Magellan activates a fail-safe system of ID; submerge the whole of ID into the ocean,as well as summoning more sea-beast who are loyal to Magellan to protect ID.
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I have a question…if someone like crocodile, ace, smoker, enel, or other logias were eating deathly poisonous food..will they die???
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Yes eating affect their bodies. Do you think that Fire needs food? No. But they are first of all OP-humans that need food and water to survive. If poison get in their body they will be affected by it as every other OP-human.
You must think that logia users can change their bodies into their elements. That means they can change cell in their body into their elements. When they are in their element form their bodies still works (somehow). Thus if the poison is in then they are able to turn it into their elements but will still be affected by it. -
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wow so fast reply…but if that so, we can kill them while they're sleeping? -
If you managed to drop poison in their foods then yes. I also think that they are able to change into their element but that doesn't happen automatically. If a logia user sleeps and he doesn't have good OP-reflexes (or didn't "mastered" his DF) you will be able to cut his throat.
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quick question: when nami got teleported did she have the log pose with her or was it left at the sunny?
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She has it.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/513/14/
If you look closely in the middle panel with Nami in it, her hand at the bottom of the panel has the Log Pose. -
So unless they get an Eternal pose for Fishman Island, thy're never going to get there now. Is this more support for Jimbei Joins the Straw Hats, or for an FI Color Walk?
EDIT: As for a race with horns…well, Odz certainly had horns, and Moria's horns have yet to be proven as artificial. Perhaps Odz's species evolved to resemble Moria. Assuming there are more like Moria. Hmm, an island full of oversized humanoids with some resemblance to either Moria or Odz, now there's an interesting thought.
I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh
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@_Meh_:
So unless they get an Eternal pose for Fishman Island, thy're never going to get there now.
but all log poses point to fishman island at one point or anouther, infact most logposes left by dead or captured pirates at shabody are pointing to fishman island.
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@_Meh_:
EDIT: As for a race with horns…well, Odz certainly had horns, and Moria's horns have yet to be proven as artificial. Perhaps Odz's species evolved to resemble Moria. Assuming there are more like Moria. Hmm, an island full of oversized humanoids with some resemblance to either Moria or Odz, now there's an interesting thought.
Well, Hannyabal's horns also don't look artificial. Though they are a bit different at the same time they are close to Moria's (if you consider how different Odr's are). I guess we'll find out more when we see Hannyabal's skin color. Though I don't expect it, it wouldn't surprise me if he's got the same skin color as Moria.
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i was thinking that people like boa, jimbei and ace were too powerful to have as next nakama…........but, if the crew do reunite and are seriously strong then the above mentioned wont overshadow anyone too much, so perhaps when they all reunite, strong people will be able to fill the positions without the mention hindrance...
also i think Hannibals skin colour will be sandy coloured to reflect the Egyptian theme he seems to hold.........and his hat is white and blue, like tuttan-khamans (spelt wrong)
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Just watching episode made me think if Bonney could actually really be a kid and her appearance as adult woman is just an appearance based on her DF ability.
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@John:
i was thinking that people like boa, jimbei and ace were too powerful to have as next nakama…........but, if the crew do reunite and are seriously strong then the above mentioned wont overshadow anyone too much, so perhaps when they all reunite, strong people will be able to fill the positions without the mention hindrance...
also i think Hannibals skin colour will be sandy coloured to reflect the Egyptian theme he seems to hold…......and his hat is white and blue, like tuttan-khamans (spelt wrong)
Is that what you think egyptians look like?
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Calico Yorki - ex captain of Rumba Pirates, I wonder if he is still alive I mean in OP world no one dies until you actually see the corpse or something :D
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Is that what you think egyptians look like?
I think he doesnt mean the egyptians, but egypt as a theme
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Calico Yorki - ex captain of Rumba Pirates, I wonder if he is still alive I mean in OP world no one dies until you actually see the corpse or something :D
I think he is still alive, no one said he has died actually, he was left behind because he was sick… I think he is very much alive. maybe we will see him reunite with brook...or maybe 50 years turns him to be an evil person, and fight with brook...who knows...
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Oh God not this again.
Yorki is dead.
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Yorki used his haki to survive. He'll be at the Pirate's Summit with his nakama.
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i was just thinking about if usopp could get his hands on them muggy balls to make his own he would do a lot of damage with them :D
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I think boa hancock and Alvida are going to battle each other to see who is worthy to marry luffy.
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@Guybrush:
i was just thinking about if usopp could get his hands on them muggy balls to make his own he would do a lot of damage with them :D
he should get a few then him and franky can upgrade/tweek them so they can use it.
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A Gaon Cannon that shoots Muggy Balls. Pluton is suddenly obsolete.
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I don't think that bounties go up at all in the New World, meaning almost no Marine presence. My reasoning? The Shichibukai all had bounties in the Kidd-Luffy range (or much lower) before they were bumped up to their titles. Therefore, it's safe to assume that they made it along the Grand Line with as much trouble as our two strongest supernovas had and their bounties reflected that. When they got around the Red Line, it was clear that they were worthy replacements for whomever was before them. If there were Marines in the New World, then it would be extremely odd if they didn't have higher bounties, especially considering even those in the 300 million beri range are hardly fit to go there. So the Marines can't be in the New World, and it's completely run by pirates. Not too surprising, but not confirmed yet.
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What Im wondering if how come they didn't try goin to war against Whitebeard before? I mean if they really think they stand a chance goin all out against him then why not attempt it before all this happened with Ace being put in Impel down?
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What Im wondering if how come they didn't try goin to war against Whitebeard before? I mean if they really think they stand a chance goin all out against him then why not attempt it before all this happened with Ace being put in Impel down?
Apparently because of Teach. Not only is he a replacement for Crocodile but also somebody who's proven to be able to take on a high ranked Whitebeard Pirate and emerbe victorious. That said, the balance seems to be leaning towards the WG's favor (because of Teach's strenght AND because of one WP imprisoned) while before it was totally equal.
It's the most logic explenation since it's the only known recent change among the three powers which works in favor to the WG.
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this is going to sound weak but i think mr 3 will be the key to defeating the warden, if it be Luffy using his wax powers in a combination move… or mr 3 on his own, but i definitely think this will be mr 3's achievement of this arc, after all buggy had has muggy balls and was a guide for Luffy, bon clay has fought and defeated the spynx, and helped in other ways.......but nothing really for mr 3, i could try and big-up his candle lock move with luffy but it doesn't really deserve that much praise. so i think this will be his shining moment in this arc
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Apparently because of Teach. Not only is he a replacement for Crocodile but also somebody who's proven to be able to take on a high ranked Whitebeard Pirate and emerbe victorious. That said, the balance seems to be leaning towards the WG's favor (because of Teach's strenght AND because of one WP imprisoned) while before it was totally equal.
It's the most logic explenation since it's the only known recent change among the three powers which works in favor to the WG.
Yeah guess I didn't think it about it that way. But even though he beat Ace are we really sure Blackbeard's strength is that phenomenal to bring the WG that much strength from just one pirate?
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starting to think this is possible when i reread a old post of mine
! I have a feeling .. that the other SH could learn about luffys capture…I doubt it though..
I mean the SH crew now in 536 or in some later chapter reading or hearing that luffy and ace are about to be executed and then a Save Luffy arc starts is impossible at this point...maybe -
Yeah guess I didn't think it about it that way. But even though he beat Ace are we really sure Blackbeard's strength is that phenomenal to bring the WG that much strength from just one pirate?
Well two of the Whitebeard Pirates division commanders are removed from the fight(Ace is imprisoned and Satch is dead) while at the same time the opposing side managed to gain the very person(Teach) who took them out.
So yes it's not too farfetched to think that the reason the World Government and Marine HQ are being so bold as to publicly execute Ace is because of Teach's acceptance of a Shichibukai position.
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So yes it's not too farfetched to think that the reason the World Government and Marine HQ are being so bold as to publicly execute Ace is because of Teach's acceptance of a Shichibukai position.
Additional to that you can add the hints Oda made in the story at Teach's strenght:
1. Shanks is aware of Teach's strenght at fears that the latter could even come and claim Newgate's position.
2. Kuma's statement to Moria that with Crocodile's replacement (Teach) he thinks the exact opposite to a balance of the three powers took place. And he can't mean that Teach is too weak to create a balance because a) then nobody would have made him Shichibukai and b) even if he would be weak a weak replacement is better then a vacant position after all. So it can only mean Teach clearly disrupts the balance in the WG's favor. -
Well two of the Whitebeard Pirates division commanders are removed from the fight(Ace is imprisoned and Satch is dead) while at the same time the opposing side managed to gain the very person(Teach) who took them out.
So yes it's not too farfetched to think that the reason the World Government and Marine HQ are being so bold as to publicly execute Ace is because of Teach's acceptance of a Shichibukai position.
So this is like a sort of present of congratulations for Blackbeard?
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No. They have him on their side. He knows a lot about WB. And he was able to catch Ace. The WG just wants to see WB going down and now they saw their chance. They're confident that with the trump cards they hold in their hands they will succeed.
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i wonder what vice admiral tsuru thinks about all this, after all i would have thought the government would have balanced the pro's and cons with accepting bb as a shichibukai, after all letting him take their side is a go-ahead to fall out with wb. i wonder if they are calling for reinforcements from the other countries to help win this war? as i think the power balance isn't that different. i even wonder if they took into account other people that might get involved, like lands protected by wb, pirates that support him, the other Yonkou, even dragon? what im getting at is have the accounted for everyone in this war, and can they leave themselves so exposed without jeopardising themselves and the stability of the government itself…..
also if they do think they can win what have they planned next, are they going to seize control of these territories or divide them up for the shichibukai. and again if the power balance shifts in their favour will they make a move on the other Yonkou and pirates that oppose them? i would like to see what the Gorosei plan next.
another thing i wanted to discuss i that we know that bb goal is to become pk so do you think he will abandon the government after this and carry on towards his goal, or do you think the government want their own pk that they themselves control......
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BB has the perfect title right now. He is a shishi doesn't need to worry much about the marines tracking pirates like him. He is the reason this war started and planed all this. Now he will with the marines force be able to take down his most dangerous enemies and aim at the top. When he will get rid of his enemies he will quit being a shishibukai. I wonder what the marines think about him. Even if they are lucky to have him at their side they obviously don't know about his power otherwise they will really fear him.
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BB has the perfect title right now. He is a shishi doesn't need to worry much about the marines tracking pirates like him. He is the reason this war started and planed all this. Now he will with the marines force be able to take down his most dangerous enemies and aim at the top. When he will get rid of his enemies he will quit being a shishibukai. I wonder what the marines think about him. Even if they are lucky to have him at their side they obviously don't know about his power otherwise they will really fear him.
he didn't plan all this though, he was trying to capture Luffy but missed his opportunity when they were blasted to skypia, also ace found him and was offered a position so if he planned something it would have happened after he caught ace not before.
the reason i made the post was i i think they underestimate what bb is aiming for and they don't realise his is a danger, but if they did know of his potential then are they backing him to become pk or what? it just seems a bit odd how they are using him atm. i wonder if they will even need the other shichibukai after this, as they are used well but once the power balance shifts they may not be of any further use, if that happens i wonder if bb will be offered a position in the marines or something, i doubt he would take it as its against his ultimate goal but i don't see him or the government parting yet until he either removes all his obstacles with the help of the government or attains the crew he is after, he still needs a navigator and so on
to be honest the mystery surrounding bb really has me stumped as there's so many possibilities of what might happen, i see alot of treachery happening from all parties taking part in this war
its frustrating:sad:
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We can assume he planed to attack WB with the marines cause he was trying to become a shishibukai otherwise he wouldn't have sent lafitte to the shishibukai meeting. So becoming a shishibukai he would have the marines with him if WB decides to take him down. He saw a much bigger chance in taking WB down with ace trying to kill him. I mean it was like a jackpot. He doesn't need to attack WB in his territory now he has a shishibukai title so the marines won't bother him and WB is coming to the MHQ or ID or wherever. That's perfect!
I highly doubt the marines know what super DF he has. And the marines are just using Ace to take WB down in their territory. They not much interested in BBs abilities. They're imo too confident in themselves. I doubt the marines know he is trying to become the PK and i wait to see how they will react once BB will make his move :) BB fooled WB and is using the marines right now and they aren't even aware of it.
He decided to offer Ace the chance to enter his crew to make it more powerful. Then he would just catch a rookie like luffy become a Shishibukai attacj WB with his crew + Ace. He saw that Ace is really powerful and that he would also fit in his plan as a crew member. But Ace was stubborn and he decided that it's time to pwn him and move on :)
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We can assume he planed to attack WB with the marines cause he was trying to become a shishibukai otherwise he wouldn't have sent lafitte to the shishibukai meeting. So becoming a shishibukai he would have the marines with him if WB decides to take him down. He saw a much bigger chance in taking WB down with ace trying to kill him. I mean it was like a jackpot. He doesn't need to attack WB in his territory now he has a shishibukai title so the marines won't bother him and WB is coming to the MHQ or ID or wherever. That's perfect!
I highly doubt the marines know what super DF he has. And the marines are just using Ace to take WB down in their territory. They not much interested in BBs abilities. They're imo too confident in themselves. I doubt the marines know he is trying to become the PK and i wait to see how they will react once BB will make his move :) BB fooled WB and is using the marines right now and they aren't even aware of it.
He decided to offer Ace the chance to enter his crew to make it more powerful. Then he would just catch a rookie like luffy become a Shishibukai attacj WB with his crew + Ace. He saw that Ace is really powerful and that he would also fit in his plan as a crew member. But Ace was stubborn and he decided that it's time to pwn him and move on :)
agreed, he does seem to be using everyone like pawns in some giant pre planned chess game, and yes i agree he did plan on becoming a shichibukai to help beat wb but i don't think he meant for the confrontation to happen like this, as we agree that he didn't plan on using ace because he wanted him in the crew.
also he could have just wanted to make his own crew without the help of the government but still under its protection, anyway what im getting at is i don't think he planned to face wb under these current circumstances
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yeah he didn't plan to do it like that. But the situation now is even better than what he had in his mind back then. He also might sit around and wait for the marines to take down WB (if they can do it). If they can't do it then the marines will be pwned by WB.
This is also good for BB. No matter who is pwned in this war it's still a good situation for BB. If he just waits to see who is victorious and then attack him it will be so easier for him to win.
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yeah he didn't plan to do it like that. But the situation now is even better than what he had in his mind back then. He also might sit around and wait for the marines to take down WB (if they can do it). If they can't do it then the marines will be pwned by WB.
This is also good for BB. No matter who is pwned in this war it's still a good situation for BB. If he just waits to see who is victorious and then attack him it will be so easier for him to win.
I mean that's speculation. But seeing how sneaky he is it wouldn't be surprising if we see him acting like that.i don't see him avoiding the fight at all, mainly because if he beats wb or proves how powerful he is then he will gain fame which is one of the attributes need to be pirate king. this fight alone is perfect for setting himself up for the title
also he absorbed a town, i think this will be used against the divisions to help whittle down the numbers, to help prove his strength to all the key players watching. i wonder if he will try and take down other shichibukai once wb is dead, as he may see them as one of the few remaining threats, i can almost see him turning on the marines the moment wb is defeated, as i cant see any other reason for him remaining on their side, their purpose would expire
he will have to turn on the marines at some point because he will need his bounty to go up seriously high for everyone to start fearing and respecting him, all he would need next is to gain his fortune and that's its, obviously he needs to find one piece and beat the other Yonkou but it will at least be a defining marker in his steps towards becoming pk
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I like the way you described it. As you said he needs to turn on the marines directly after taking WB down to eliminate marines here and there. BB rampaging would be cool. Then he will go to the new world and will start attacking the other yonkous? That would be awesome.
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I like the way you described it. As you said he needs to turn on the marines directly after taking WB down to eliminate marines here and there. BB rampaging would be cool. Then he will go to the new world and will start attacking the other yonkous? That would be awesome.
thanx, i cant wait to see this play out, hopefully we will get a sneak peak in the next ten chapters or so, i wonder if he will need to fight the other yonkou though, after all some of them maybe too afraid to take on wb's replacement? also if he does turn on the marines do you see him going after the admirals yet or wait for later confrontation, after all he is very ambitious, who knows maybe marie joa wont even be safe after this war, perhaps if bb does do damage to the admirals then we might finally see sengoku take the gloves off
oh im so hyped about this war now inhale…hold....exhale much better
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So this is like a sort of present of congratulations for Blackbeard?
Well I doubt, as MagneticMonkey stated, that the World Government knows of Teach's true goal which is to become Pirate King so I doubt that. They're not really going to get a better chance than this to take out Newgate so even if it does line up with what would be beneficial for Teach the World Government and Marine HQ aren't doing it for him.
As Shanks stated during his meeting with Newgate; Teach was going to go after Newgate eventually so even though it might be happening sooner than expected it's not like it'd be detrimental to his goals. It's similar to turning in Ace instead of Luffy, individual aspects may change but it won't change the overall goal.
@John:
he will have to turn on the marines at some point because he will need his bounty to go up seriously high for everyone to start fearing and respecting him, all he would need next is to gain his fortune and that's its, obviously he needs to find one piece and beat the other Yonkou but it will at least be a defining marker in his steps towards becoming pk
So wait…you don't think taking out Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate, the Strongest Person in the World and closest to One Piece, would garner respect and/or fear…yeah no that's ridiculous. Right now, the only character who's attempting to be Pirate King aside from Luffy who has a feasible chance of attaining it is Teach, and lacking an actual bounty doesn't deter from that.
Look at it this way: Hancock and Crocodile both had former bounties of only $80,000,000 and $81,000,000 respectively. I can guarantee that having such a low value had no negative view regarding fear/respect. Like I mentioned a couple of chapters back: if it mattered so much the authorities wouldn't have seen fit to dump Crocodile in "not level 5," but you know what....they did. Being a world power to the degree that characters like these are and the titles given to them speak more than any bounty value ever will.
I mean let's say when Mihawk's former bounty is revealed it turns out lower than the two above(which honestly wouldn't surprise me). Do you think that it would downplay everything else we've seen and/or learned about him? By the way this is a rhetorical question so please don't give me the wrong answer.
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So wait…you don't think taking out Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate, the Strongest Person in the World and closest to One Piece, would garner respect and/or fear…yeah no that's ridiculous. Right now, the only character who's attempting to be Pirate King aside from Luffy who has a feasible chance of attaining it is Teach, and lacking an actual bounty doesn't deter from that.
I saw it like it is a really good opportunity for BB to take down (after taking down WB) a lot of high ranked marines as they are all gathered together. That will make him even more feared. I mean he would be able to do it if he isn't seriously injured in the fight against WB…
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There's no point in doing that, and frankly out of character for Teach anyway.
