@AD-HD:
Wrong. Zoro can't beat Lucci. Franky said that only and only Luffy can beat Lucci. No one else.
Oh, and Pirate King is definetely better than Worlds greatest swordsman.
PK is best. Strongest of the world. He can whipe Mihawk's ass.
You kidding me….......
Do you really think Luffy is going to go full power on his own nakama and btw how long was Whishey Peak i know that both of them have gotten strong but Luffy has gone above and beyond Zoro in that time. What does Shanks and Mihawk have to do between Greatest Swordsman and Pirate King
Do you really think Luffy is going to go full power on his own nakama and btw how long was Whishey Peak i know that both of them have gotten strong but Luffy has gone above and beyond Zoro in that time. What does Shanks and Mihawk have to do between Greatest Swordsman and Pirate King
You need to watch thefight luffy wanted to kill zoro he said it. Luffy snapped he was fighting for real go re-read it.
Do you really think Luffy is going to go full power on his own nakama and btw how long was Whishey Peak i know that both of them have gotten strong but Luffy has gone above and beyond Zoro in that time. What does Shanks and Mihawk have to do between Greatest Swordsman and Pirate King
Luffy tried to "KILL" Zoro!! and even stated it, so yes he was going all out agiants Zoro and it was a tie! Please tell me how Luffy gone above and beyond Zoro in that time??
I beleive Shanks is trying to become Pirate King and Hawkeye's is the Greatest swordsman and these two are Luffy and Zoro's dreams which are rivals!! See the resemblence??
You guys are obvisously forgetting how fat luffy was when he was fighting Zoro then
Zoro was all over kaku, kaku had tekkai so zoro couldn't cut him. Once he learnt asura the fight was over.
If zoro can walk all over kaku why can't he match lucci? and he would probably have the same problem with tekkai until he learns asura and history would repeat itself.
zoro could cut kaku's tekkai but only with the lion song technique which also defeated mr.1 and asura didn't face tekkai,he broke kaku's spinning rankyoku and attacked him,he created an openning,he didn't break his defence
though zoro will reach someday the part where he will be able to cut steal with every move but not now
also zoro said that most of the SH propably couldn't beat lucci,MOST,so if you ask me both zoro and sanji could beat lucci
and if you re-picture the fights in your head as long as zoro used the demon ki (that was his "upgrade",not asura,asura was a technique) and sanji used the fire leg thing they won easily,zoro won with one move and sanji with two while luffy was fighting all day with the gears which was his upgrade so they seem pretty equal
what if luffy got someone stronger,he almost lost while zoro and sanji had a pic nic when they used their upgrades so again they seem they could both beat lucci
You guys are obvisously forgetting how fat luffy was when he was fighting Zoro then
Zoro also was holding back then trying to explain to Luffy what was going on!!! After he digested his food Zoro and Luffy tried to KILL one another…...
And how did he lose that wieght? by fighting the Mr. 5 in the house which probably took some endurance away
You guys are obvisously forgetting how fat luffy was when he was fighting Zoro then
Luffy was fat and zoro didn't have his bandanna on. Then luffy digested his food and zord put his bandanna on, go read it.
zoro could cut kaku's tekkai but only with the lion song technique which also defeated mr.1 and asura didn't face tekkai
…Ok you think I don't know that? Kaku was to fast so lion song was rendered void.
he broke kaku's spinning rankyoku and attacked him,he created an openning,he didn't break his defence
Right he went straight through a highly destructive move with relative ease, we don't know if asura can cut tekkai and we don't know if that is all asura is capable of doing.
e.g luffy has 2 gears zoro's asura is zoro understanding his ki, he may be able to have more techniques in asura form.
though zoro will reach someday the part where he will be able to cut steal with every move but not now
I know
also zoro said that most of the SH propably couldn't beat lucci,MOST,so if you ask me both zoro and sanji could beat lucci
Not sure about sanji, zoro and luffy are clearly stronger than sanji.
and if you re-picture the fights in your head as long as zoro used the demon ki (that was his "upgrade",not asura,asura was a technique) and sanji used the fire leg thing they won easily,zoro won with one move and sanji with two while luffy was fighting all day with the gears which was his upgrade so they seem pretty equal
I know but I have doubts about sanji.
And how did he lose that wieght? by fighting the Mr. 5 in the house which probably took some endurance away
Luffy digested his food, that is how he lost that weight.
and after he digested it they fought for like 20 seconds and the Nami stopped them i would hardly call that a tie i call that interference
and after he digested it they fought for like 20 seconds and the Nami stopped them i would hardly call that a tie i call that interference
Look the point is they were fightining evenly had an even amount of injuries and neither of the two looked like they were slowing down. They look equal to me.
Reguardless of whos stronger and what not(Imo, Mugiwara's have been constant in terms of strength since their first appearance. They just learn new techniques and gain new weapons along the way. One piece isnt a training manga)
Gear 2 luffy is still probobly more than zoro can handle. Luffy had trouble with lucchi in gear 2.
Lucchi is just that strong. even if zoro could cut tekkai with shishisonson, kaku proved that hitting them with it is a whole different matter. lucchi was stronger and faster than all of the other CP9 many times over. Argue it all you like but hes just not something the other mugiwara's could beat on their own. If luffy wasnt rubber, he would have died before even taking lucchi to jaguar form(rapid fire shigan would have got him)
Seriously this is kind of stupid… by reading alot of the posts it seems to me like you guys are saying
Brawler >>> Swordsman
and that if you are a swordsman you can't become the PK which is definately not true! Are you guys saying this?!?! Of course not but it sounds like thats what you guys are saying.
these are just methods of combat! its like saying one type of martial artist is superior to another martial artist that uses a different style.
Mihawk saying becoming the PK being harder is because you have more trials to do. Unlike best swordsman where you just have to beat the strongest, being PK is NOT about beating up the most powerful man in the world. You also have to obtain wealth, a powerful crew, etc...
also think about it when you are aiming to become the worlds greatest swordsman most of the enemies you fight are swordsmen.
Now the path to being PK is also harder because in this path your opponents can include, brawlers, ability users, and even swordsmen! also I don't think being a swordsman only will have the world government chasing after you. Eg they executed Gold Roger, but being a swordsman seems perfectly legal.
Sidenote, I think Zoro and maybe Sanji could have taken on Lucci. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji grow the most during their fights and I think that eventually during the fight, being put in a situation so close to death they would have prevailed against the enemy. Also look how much Luffys gear two evolved from the battle between Blueno and Lucci. Just my opinion.
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@Hawkeye:
And how did he lose that wieght? by fighting the Mr. 5 in the house which probably took some endurance away
Your kidding me right?? Did you watch/read the arc? Zoro took on Baroque Works just before the fight, and even got mild injuries. Plus Luffy always gets reenergized after eating meat and plus he had a nap. I dont see how that hinders him. Sure you could argue about just stuffing yourself, but thats a moot point for Luffy. Also although Zoro never gets drunk, all he did was pretty much drink which would technically hinder you more then eating a taking a nap.
Now see, I dont see that. Ive always seen the mugiwara's as just THAT much stronger than their opponents until CP9. THey are just put in disadvantegeous situations that make them seem even with their opponents. They are never really able to fight at top form.
Like in Arlong park. Zoro was badly wounded by mihawk, and sanji had to attempt to save luffy. Otherwise they would have wiped the floor with their opponents.(Sanji did afterwards actually) Same in Alabasta. Zoro's opponent was steel, so he had to master his new technique, and sanji's opponent could change into nami, and got alot of cheap shots in.
If you think back on every fight Luffy, Zoro and Sanji have been in, something like that always happened, so I dont see how we can really say they have gotten stronger per say than when we first saw them.
Fighting isnt that central in one piece(one of the things I loved about it) its the main way to get things done, but characters arent training when they arent fighting. They are interacting and exploring and overall developing the plot.
Just thought id say this in response to many people saying "Sanji is 10x stronger than he was when he first joined" and all this power level like discussion. I dont think its relevant because I dont see it existing in the manga.
Luffy was fat and zoro didn't have his bandanna on. Then luffy digested his food and zord put his bandanna on, go read it.
…Ok you think I don't know that? Kaku was to fast so lion song was rendered void.
Right he went straight through a highly destructive move with relative ease, we don't know if asura can cut tekkai and we don't know if that is all asura is capable of doing.
e.g luffy has 2 gears zoro's asura is zoro understanding his ki, he may be able to have more techniques in asura form.
I know
Not sure about sanji, zoro and luffy are clearly stronger than sanji.
I know but I have doubts about sanji.
OiP i know you know
except the asura part all the other stuff were about the other dudes that claim luffy owns zoro
and propably when zoro is using the demon ki he may be able to cut steel since asura is propably is his strongest attack now
now off topic,OiP do you think the next time zoro uses again the 3000 realms (final move in his defeat from mihawk) will be with with his final showdown with mihawk?????
Fighting isnt that central in one piece(one of the things I loved about it) its the main way to get things done, but characters arent training when they arent fighting. They are interacting and exploring and overall developing the plot.
Agreed. The way One Piece has everything is what makes it my favourite manga.
Also thinking back I would have to agree with you. Sanji did still lose to Gin, Zoro to Enel, Luffy to Aoi Koji.
Still though, my due to the bias of Zoro and Luffy being my favourite characters, I think Zoro still could have eventually taken on Lucci. I really do think that Zoro is on par with Luffy, maybe just a bit below. Luffy definately acknowledges that. For example when he was at Skypia and found everyone defeated by Enel he said something like how did this happen when you were here. That just shows how strong Luffy thinks Zoro is. Plus also remenber how they combined their attacks to create a hole in Aqua Laguana? To me that just seems like they are equals.
now off topic,OiP do you think the next time zoro uses again the 3000 realms (final move in his defeat from mihawk) will be with with his final showdown with mihawk?????
I do.
He hasn't used 3000 realms since he lost to Mihawk even when he was in life or death situations. I think he is saving this move for mihawk, he probably thinks since that move lost to mihawk. He has to reclaim his honour by defeating mihawk with that move.
He might also implement his ki into causing it to be super powered.
I do.
He hasn't used 3000 realms since he lost to Mihawk even when he was in life or death situations. I think he is saving this move for mihawk, he probably thinks since that move lost to mihawk. He has to reclaim his honour by defeating mihawk with that move.
He might also implement his ki into causing it to be super powered.
i enjoy talking about zoro with you
if only green hair could come more often here:cwy:
EDIT: well a super powered 3000 realms will propably come but what mostly concerns me is zoro's speed,he has to improve it a lot,darn whiskey peak!!! zoro was vanishing like he was teleporting but he still can't move in soru speed,they made us hungry but left us to eat our shoes!!
i enjoy talking about zoro with you
if only green hair could come more often here:cwy:
EDIT: well a super powered 3000 realms will propably come but what mostly concerns me is zoro's speed,he has to improve it a lot,darn whiskey peak!!! zoro was vanishing like he was teleporting but he still can't move in soru speed,they made us hungry but left us to eat our shoes!!
I wouldn't count zoro out in speed, he kept up with kaku while used soru and didn't even break a sweat. This is just another reason I see zoro being able to beat lucci, if he tried zoro would be just as fast as lucci.
So zoro is moving in soru speed without using soru which is even better than needing a technique to move fast.
I wouldn't count zoro out in speed, he kept up with kaku while used soru and didn't even break a sweat. This is just another reason I see zoro being able to beat lucci, if he tried zoro would be just as fast as lucci.
So zoro is moving in soru speed without using soru which is even better than needing a technique to move fast.
i don't really see zoro as a quick one,when kaku went behind him with soru,zoro just did an 180 turn,so in my mind he has still to improve much n speed
also soru or not soru,the way to move so fast is one though coby too knew soru so maybe soru is the ultimate speed technique
Well, I think Lucky Roux has the ultimate speed technique down. Why? Because it didn't make a sound effect, there was no purple smoke, and he didn't have to say anything.
i don't really see zoro as a quick one,when kaku went behind him with soru,zoro just did an 180 turn,so in my mind he has still to improve much n speed
We see that 180 turn in different ways, you see it as a weakness and I see it as lazyness or arrogance. He knew exactly where kaku was and just put his sword in the way (like when mihawk stopped his oni giri with out moving, it adds insult to injury). He wasn't fighting at his best and he wasn't even wearing his bandanna, this shows me zoro was testing kaku.
also soru or not soru,the way to move so fast is one though coby too knew soru so maybe soru is the ultimate speed technique
Soru can be whatever you want it to be, but don't be suprised when characters move faster than soru with their own speed. A technique is a technique but training your body will always make it stronger and faster in OP.
Like Lucky Roux probably isn't using Soru since he's a pirate and he can't learn it.
No he wasnt using soru. Like how luffy wasnt using it when he caught blueno in their fight.
Soru is high speed movement in quick bursts. Not constantly.
Jeez, judging from you guys's argument, I question if we are watching the same show. No offense, but the stuff you guys use as evidence and reasononing dont make sense at all.
One piece isnt one of those mangas you infer alot of stuff from. One piece is what it is really. Especially in fights as they arent the main focus of the manga.
I dont really see Franky as an unreliable source on his voice that they couldnt beat lucchi. I just see that as Oda's voice through Franky. its not really something that needs to be speculated on. Lucchi was just that far above his Teammates, like luffy was after going Gear 2nd. They were on a whole different level than the rest, and Fraky was acknoledging this.
Otherwise, like stated in one of the log books, the three are equal.
@Impel:
Like Lucky Roux probably isn't using Soru since he's a pirate and he can't learn it.
That's like saying a black guy can't learn how to Tango.
If Lucky Roux wanted to learn Soru, he damn well could if he was taught it.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
@Fire Fist:
That's like saying a black guy can't learn how to Tango.
If Lucky Roux wanted to learn Soru, he damn well could if he was taught it.
Im pretty sure he was joking…...
No he wasnt using soru. Like how luffy wasnt using it when he caught blueno in their fight.
Soru is high speed movement in quick bursts. Not constantly.
Everyone knows that, Impel down probably means an advanced type of soru only luck roux knows.
I dont really see Franky as an unreliable source on his voice that they couldnt beat lucchi. I just see that as Oda's voice through Franky. its not really something that needs to be speculated on. Lucchi was just that far above his Teammates, like luffy was after going Gear 2nd. They were on a whole different level than the rest, and Fraky was acknoledging this.
Otherwise, like stated in one of the log books, the three are equal.
Franky doesn't know the strawhats, he isn't even a strawhat yet when he states that. That is just like when kreig said he is the strongest and that mihawk is a DF user.
Luffy is the main character and a very reliable source, if he'd have said it, then it would have been believeable.
Zoro was far above kaku if you couldn't see that the only thing stopping zoro from finishing off kaku straight away was tekkai. Then you need to re-read that fight zoro was fighting kaku and jaybura at the same time, with an usopp handicap and they couldn't hit him.
In the data books luffy and zoros strength(overall fighting ability, not just physical strength) is 6(maximum) sanji is 5. So they aren't equal luffy and zoro are clearly stronger
Sanji weaker than Zoro? No way, no how!
Everyone knows that, Impel down probably means an advanced type of soru only luck roux knows. Franky doesn't know the strawhats, he isn't even a strawhat yet when he states that. That is just like when kreig said he is the strongest and that mihawk is a DF user.
Luffy is the main character and a very reliable source, if he'd have said it, then it would have been believeable.
Zoro was far above kaku if you couldn't see that the only thing stopping zoro from finishing off kaku straight away was tekkai. Then you need to re-read that fight zoro was fighting kaku and jaybura at the same time, with an usopp handicap and they couldn't hit him.
In the data books luffy and zoros strength(overall fighting ability, not just physical strength) is 6(maximum) sanji is 5. So they aren't equal luffy and zoro are clearly stronger
You know something…..Your right....More often than Not...... your right!
@Impel:
Sanji weaker than Zoro? No way, no how!
Sanji IS weaker than Zoro, and it's actually quite clear the difference. Sanji was seriously hurting during the Gin fight and after his fight with Bon-chan; Zoro defeated Hatchi after he had been sliced open and lost 6 liters of blood, that's the only real time we saw him in pain. Sure, Sanji's taken a lot of abuse, but Zoro has taken more punishment than anyone, even Usopp, and gotten back up for more.
Sanji isn't as strong as Zoro. Zoro is more consistent and generally stronger.
But Sanji is a lot smarter and slick, when it comes to saving the day e.g. Mr Prince, getting on the train to Enies Lobby etc.
Zoro just endures more because he has to prove himself. If Sanji dies, then All Blue still exsists, so nothing happens.
No he wasnt using soru. Like how luffy wasnt using it when he caught blueno in their fight.
Soru is high speed movement in quick bursts. Not constantly.
Jeez, judging from you guys's argument, I question if we are watching the same show. No offense, but the stuff you guys use as evidence and reasononing dont make sense at all.
One piece isnt one of those mangas you infer alot of stuff from. One piece is what it is really. Especially in fights as they arent the main focus of the manga.
I dont really see Franky as an unreliable source on his voice that they couldnt beat lucchi. I just see that as Oda's voice through Franky. its not really something that needs to be speculated on. Lucchi was just that far above his Teammates, like luffy was after going Gear 2nd. They were on a whole different level than the rest, and Fraky was acknoledging this.
Otherwise, like stated in one of the log books, the three are equal.
Right on man. Everyone here argues about pointless things and uses the smallest minute detail to back their points. It's not that difficult. Just watch/read the show/manga and enjoy it.
Althought i shouldnt be complaining since i do it myself, and i find it rather entertaining reading these forums. I guess we all know that we are going overboard with our interpretations of the manga, but cant help it cause then where would the fun be.
@Fire Fist:
Cough No offense, but that's ridiculous. There are more swordsmen in the One Piece world than there are fish in the sea. Do you honestly think that Mihawk faced them all?
Of course he didn't. There were clearly established people at the top who Mihawk challenged and defeated, thus earning the title of the World's Greatest Swordsmen. The same applies to Roger. Luffy hasn't defeated every pirate in the world; that would take him hundreds of years, and before he was done, he'd look like Brooke. There is no way in the world that this could have happened. You're insane if you think so. That would be like Bruce Lee having fought EVERY martial artist in the world to be considered the World's Greatest. He would've died of exhaustion rather than dying from an aspirin.
Look at Son Goku. The best Martial Artist before him was Tao Pai Pai, which he managed to beat and become the World's Greatest Martial artist. But even Son Goku lost the title because he neglected the Tenkaichi. Eventually, the title went to Mr. Satan.
Mihawk's opponent is either dead or unrevealed. It's that simple.
Just like Rocky… he never went to the top... he just fought the World Champion and won... :happy:
Let me just put it this way: Best Pirate does not equal Best Swordsman. If that were the case, Yassopp would be at Mihawk's level because he's the best sniper, Lucky Roux too because he's the fastest man alive, and Ben Beckman because he's a super genius.
No he wasnt using soru. Like how luffy wasnt using it when he caught blueno in their fight.
Soru is high speed movement in quick bursts. Not constantly.
well i haven't considered that for soru,hmmmm,maybe
I dont really see Franky as an unreliable source on his voice that they couldnt beat lucchi. I just see that as Oda's voice through Franky. its not really something that needs to be speculated on. Lucchi was just that far above his Teammates, like luffy was after going Gear 2nd. They were on a whole different level than the rest, and Fraky was acknoledging this.
Otherwise, like stated in one of the log books, the three are equal.
post a link with the page where franky sais that cuz i heard that for the first time
Mihawk: What's your mission?
Luffy: Pirate King.
Mihawk: That's harder than surpassing me.
This could be used as proof that the strongest swordsman and the pirate king aren't equal. Sure Mihawk could mean a more difficult path in terms of dangers and reaching Raftel, but he could also mean that you'd have to be stronger than the best swordsman to be able to reach that goal.
You could be the World's Greatest Swordsman and be a Marine. Then you wouldn't become kaizagou.
Listen.
I think it's relatively clear that the previous power structure for the great pirates had Whitebeard and Roger on top, the top swordsman could not defeat either of them, or tie with them, etc.
That said, the previous power structure doesn't matter when it comes to Luffy and Zoro, Zoro has always been Luffy's rival, and will always rival him in power.
Whether or not Zoro could defeat Lucci with the technique and power he has now is irrelevant because if Zoro fought Lucci he would have been massively injured and near death just like Luffy, but he would have come up with a way to win, better than Asura if necessary. Just as Luffy was able to win because he needed to win for his nakama.
Anyway the point is that the previous power structure doesn't matter, the strawhats are paving their own and in it Zoro is very damn close to Luffy.
Also, all that Mihawk meant when he told Luffy that the path of pirate king was harder than surpassing Mihawk was that Luffy would have to face more perils and give more up for his dream than anyone, he didn't just mean "You have to be a badass fighter!"
Luffy and Zoro arent rivals. Zoro and Sanji are.
Luffy wants to be a pirate king, and Zoro a swordsman. Its not like Zoro sits there and says that he will surpass luffy or he is better than luffy. So you cant put them as rivals.
And just a question. Didnt luffy learn to use one of the CP9s moves, and if he could then no doubt someone as strong as Lucky Roux could easily, alothough I go to think that his ability of speed is above that. Well it would have to be.
And I wonder if mihawk was Rogers swordsman or something like that because it seems as though alot of stuff repeats history, but that is just an out there idea.
Luffy and Zoro arent rivals. Zoro and Sanji are.
Luffy wants to be a pirate king, and Zoro a swordsman. Its not like Zoro sits there and says that he will surpass luffy or he is better than luffy. So you cant put them as rivals.
And just a question. Didnt luffy learn to use one of the CP9s moves, and if he could then no doubt someone as strong as Lucky Roux could easily, alothough I go to think that his ability of speed is above that. Well it would have to be.
And I wonder if mihawk was Rogers swordsman or something like that because it seems as though alot of stuff repeats history, but that is just an out there idea.
First of all, Sanji and Zoro have never fought. They actually even teamed up during the Davy Back fight. Luffy and Zoro have physically fought each other. That makes them rivals. Besides, Sanji is below Luffy and Zoro in power. They wouldn't make good rivals. Just because they don't get along doesn't make them rivals.
To answer your question: Luffy learned to recognize Soru, not use it. He can simulate it using Gear 2nd, though. It's not quite the same.
Mihawk was probably Whitebeard's cabin boy, like Shanks was Roger's. It only makes sense because Whitebeard stated he watched the duels. Why would he go out of his way to watch two kids fight when they were on the same ship?
Besides, Mihawk is about the same age as Shanks. He'd be 15 when Roger died, like Shanks.
@Fire Fist:
First of all, Sanji and Zoro have never fought. They actually even teamed up during the Davy Back fight. Luffy and Zoro have physically fought each other. That makes them rivals. Besides, Sanji is below Luffy and Zoro in power. They wouldn't make good rivals. Just because they don't get along doesn't make them rivals.
To answer your question: Luffy learned to recognize Soru, not use it. He can simulate it using Gear 2nd, though. It's not quite the same.
Mihawk was probably Whitebeard's cabin boy, like Shanks was Roger's. It only makes sense because Whitebeard stated he watched the duels. Why would he go out of his way to watch two kids fight when they were on the same ship?
Besides, Mihawk is about the same age as Shanks. He'd be 15 when Roger died, like Shanks.
i agree though i don't see luffy and zoro as rivals since they are not competing in anything
p.s. check your PMs ace
i agree though i don't see luffy and zoro as rivals since they are not competing in anything
p.s. check your PMs ace
Zoro: This is a great chance… to see which is stronger... "martial arts" or "swordsmanship"...
Luffy: Right!! Then let's find out!!!
There's the reason right there.
@Fire Fist:
Zoro: This is a great chance… to see which is stronger... "martial arts" or "swordsmanship"...
Luffy: Right!! Then let's find out!!!
There's the reason right there.
maybe,it is possible
Luffy and zoro are definitely equal all the proof is in a closed thread that psolaras made.
Sanji and zoro are more like two old women, they aren't rivals they just argue and hate each other (on the surface anyway).
@$abZ:
Yeah, close. Not equal.
So, Zoro and Luffy that were even in a fight means nothing?
How about this…........
Captain: Luffy D. Monkey*
Quote:
Bounty: 100,000,000 Belly “Most Wanted Pirate in East Blue”
(Formerly 30,000,000 Belly)Age: 17
Birthday: May 5th
Height: 172cm/5’7”
Sign: Taurus
Attributes-
Adventuresome: 6
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 1
Dexterity: 1
Fashion Sense: 1
Curiosity: 6Swordsman: Zoro Roronoa
Quote:
Bounty: 60,000,000 BellyAge: 19
Birthday: November 11th
Height: 178cm/5’10”
Sign: Scorpio
Attributes-
Adventuresome: 3
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 2
Dexterity: 4
Fashion Sense: 2
Curiosity: 3
If you ask me the are EQUAL!!!! Zoro even has better Dexterity(Skill, movement)!
Luffy and Zoro aren't equals.
Luffy is captain. That if something makes him to be stronger than Zoro.
