OK, I'm not gonna caress anyone's ears now, but at the same time I won't use name droppin cause I'm no judge.
Am I the only one here who thinks that the quality of the threads created has fallen to the ground? I mean, come on people: How many "Luffy vs Zoro" or "Yer favorite color" or "yer favorite attack/villain" threads we need? And know what? These threads are in fact older ones recycled by newer members mostly. Which I can understand. The thing is, all of ya who create threads with the same speed you eat a five-level Bic Mac when you're in the middle of the desert, why don't ya try to choose quality instead of quantity?
Anyway if I see another "What's the meaning of the One Piece treasure" or "The Shichibukai-Who are they" thread or somethin similar, I'll just start hittin my head in the fuckin wall.
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I've noticed the threads being bad too. I don't even know what people are thinking when they make these stupid threads.
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Yes, the quality in threads has dropped. It's one of the reasons we made the new poll rule.
I could be wrong about this, but I feel like an influx of extremely young members has lead to an influx in silliness.
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I agree. A lot of repeat threads as well. I wish there was some sort of magic filter for that. Then again, I wish for a lot of things. Like ketchup and mustard in the same bottle. It's genius, but no one will ever do it.
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Originally posted by The Dude@May 25 2005, 05:56 PM
I agree. A lot of repeat threads as well. I wish there was some sort of magic filter for that. Then again, I wish for a lot of things. Like ketchup and mustard in the same bottle. It's genius, but no one will ever do it.
[snapback]55939[/snapback]i like!!! mutchup!! i'll be rich!!!!!
er… about those new members being silly... i know nothing about it...
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Something that annoys me is people who keep on making threads. Like making one then making another right after.
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Originally posted by Seta Ginny@May 25 2005, 07:37 PM
…an influx of extremely young members has lead to an influx in silliness.
[snapback]55926[/snapback]BINGO.
But think about it – OP is a kid's show, therefore we get kids in the fandom. Can't blame 'em, almost.
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Yeah, can't blame em. shrugs
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In a forum I used to admin, we ended up creating an ENTIRE forum for polls, and also for games and silliness, just so we could keep the more intelligent threads in the general discussion forum from falling to the wayside. XD
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I know this should be in the Suggestion section, but it's relevant anyway; will it be better if only members with a certain amount of posts be allowed to post?
This wouldn't stop silly threads from being made by members who've posted a lot, though.
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Originally posted by changsho
**I know this should be in the Suggestion section, but it's relevant anyway; will it be better if only members with a certain amount of posts be allowed to post?This wouldn't stop silly threads from being made by members who've posted a lot, though.**
You sir, fail at intarweb.
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xD Did you notice the amount of 4kids threads that were created right after the Bellemere episode? It was a SWARM I tells you! x3
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Originally posted by HellBladeKnight+May 25 2005, 08:36 PM–>QUOTE(HellBladeKnight @ May 25 2005, 08:36 PM)
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Originally posted by changsho@May 25 2005, 08:28 PM
**I know this should be in the Suggestion section, but it's relevant anyway; will it be better if only members with a certain amount of posts be allowed to post?This wouldn't stop silly threads from being made by members who've posted a lot, though.
[snapback]56089[/snapback]**Well, if only people with a certain amount of posts can post, how will people raise their post count? XD Maybe I misunderstood the comment.
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If I see a childish thread I don't read it. Since OP attracts fans of all ages it's a given that different ages will clash. The one way to keep from having an elitist attitude is to just simply not read a thread you know was made by younger members and is a relatively juvenile topic. Is it any coincidence I rarely post in the manga section outside of chapter threads anymore?
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^ Same as Greg. Prolly one reason why I guess I have a relatively low post count compared to others is that I just don't post in stuff that's stupid. :lol:
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<– Looks at Carly's post count and looks at his. You call that a low post count!
I am a "young member," and I feel as if I should stand up for my fellow crewmates. :P We are young and ponder many many questions, and we go here to post our questions where knowledge is abound or share our problems and hope for some insight. We even write about our great achievements or some quaint vignette people don't really care about. So we do contribute. Not all of them are great but hey, weren't you curious about some stupid mundane thing once?
Now I'll shake everybody's hand (shakes Carly, omae no kaasan v.2, CosmicDebris, changsho, taboo, HellBladeKnight, Akira, Bloodfoot, Jacobo, ooshi78, The Dude, Seta Ginny, Solar Knight, JudasChrist) and hope that you can forgive our mistakes.
Can't we all just get along? :D
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Well, you seem fine. But it's when you get a thing like 'lufy or zolo who wold win i think solo bcos he's COOOL!!!!1111111' then that's when you have to question it.
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Ever since the forums reopened, I've been swamped with too many other things to deal with and haven't been able to respond as often as I used to (even if a big majority of my posts came/come from games >_>). But, I must agree with the drop of quality. When I come back, the threads don't seem to be full of that much beef anymore, per se. The only kinds of threads that I'm really tired of seeing is VS threads. Some of the more interesting ones, like Gaara VS Crocodile, I like reading up on who and why people think the other would win. Some of them are just silly and don't offer discussion.
Well, I guess since there's no 'magic filter' as The Dude mentioned, we've got moderators. They must have their work cut out for them. Especially with so many of these 'lower quality' threads, it must be a little difficult to determine what the standards for topics are nowadays since they are becoming part of the norm- What am I talking about?…..
Anyways, yes, JudasChrist has raised a good point and I'm glad that new poll creation system was initiated by our mods and admins. Though, it's a little disappointing that we actually had to come to that point.
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Yea, something had to be done. :/
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DUM DUM DUUMMMM!
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Originally posted by CosmicDebris@May 25 2005, 09:01 PM
Well, if only people with a certain amount of posts can post, how will people raise their post count? XD Maybe I misunderstood the comment.
[snapback]56105[/snapback]Hee, wrote it wrong. I mean "… be allowed to post new threads."
I overall agree with the drop of the quality. But then, we couldn't really do much about it, except locking the new threads. Which is wrong.
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Well, that's why you don't see my poking my nose into every thread I see now ^^ And to quote tash "The forums are so boring". XD
Well, I don't see how we can fix that unless we first get rid of the stupid threads before intelligent threads can be made.
And BTW, I think I am one of those with the lowest number of threads ^^ (not counting FAQs etc.)
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I am used to an unmoderated board where the members regulate themselves, so my two cents may be influenced by my experiences from that board. I am also new and haven't been around much. Regardless, I feel the need to say something.
In that other forums, if one dares to make stupid threads (not silly, there's a distinction. Silly can be funny, stupid is just…bleh), the other members are free to call on the original poster. From a polite nudge ("Why do you make this thread? What's the point?") to a snarky push ("Whee. Lookit what we have here, an absolute crap."). But the most effective way of stopping these pointless, moronic threads is to ignore them.
Do Not Feed the St00pid Thread.
Do Not Feed the Ego of the St00pid Thread's Maker. It just keeps growing and growing, lo and behold, it clutters the freakin' board.
Juvenile-thread makers are not necessarily young people, but I do see the trend here. I think it's not the overall board's duty to adjust to them (except content-wise). Quite the opposite, it's them who needs to understand that there is a standard to hold. This is not being elitist. A standard is like a ship's keel. If it's broken, the whole ship will be rendered useless.
I am quite sure the "Character A vs. Godzilla" type of threads is substandard. Heck, what is the standard on this board? ::scratches head:: It cannot be defined in words, but the more senior members (who I'm sure understand what this board is trying to achieve) can set examples for the newer members to follow. Teach them the board culture, y'know?
So yeah, I babble a lot. :rolleyes:
2 cents dropped into the jar,
RanierOT: Is there a thread expiration date in this board? I mean, if the thread has been inactive for a certain amount of days, can it be deleted?
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I understand that ignoring the retarted threads is a solution, but know what? When I was not posting here for a period of time, and I was a lurker, I was seeing all the times all these stupid threads and really, I wasn't feelin like postin here again. I know I'll sound a little asshole here, but hey, we were all newbies sometime, but in the begining on this board we didin't have around 1000000 vs threads or something like that! I think we were more interested learning about the other people that were posting here than the winner of a Luffy vs Zolo fight. And now I look at the general topic section and see yet again the same "Nickname and user name" and "Age" and "How do you look like"! Oh fuck people, why don't ya just create an "Introduction topic" where you will inform everybody bout all of thse and post picz too?! why do ya have to separate these!? And again, I don't think that newbies are retarted or something like that. Maybe cause of their young age, care more bout fictionary than real life characters in this board. But the thing is, can we avoid their threads, when actually they're like a circle: The newbz answer to the other newbz threads, if not cause they care, then cause they want to have many posts! (as if they're gonna win a trophy or somethin)
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Thank you so much JudasChris ;_;
That s exactly what I think…I really miss the old forums...We had so much fun... I had more than 2000 posts and now...I only have more than 200 sigh The reason is that the threads are so boring and annoying that I don t feel like posting.
And about the "what are you thinking?" thread... Don t want to sound harsh but I m wondering "can some members actually use their brains and think?"
I think that members should only post when they have something intersting or funny to say. Don t forget that you still can pm eaxh others.Ends with her: The forums are so boring... -_-
Something should seriously be done!!
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Originally posted by Cess Blue@May 26 2005, 01:21 AM
**<– Looks at Carly's post count and looks at his. You call that a low post count!I am a "young member," and I feel as if I should stand up for my fellow crewmates. :P We are young and ponder many many questions, and we go here to post our questions where knowledge is abound or share our problems and hope for some insight. We even write about our great achievements or some quaint vignette people don't really care about. So we do contribute. Not all of them are great but hey, weren't you curious about some stupid mundane thing once?
Now I'll shake everybody's hand (shakes Carly, omae no kaasan v.2, CosmicDebris, changsho, taboo, HellBladeKnight, Akira, Bloodfoot, Jacobo, ooshi78, The Dude, Seta Ginny, Solar Knight, JudasChrist) and hope that you can forgive our mistakes.
Can't we all just get along? :D
[snapback]56141[/snapback]**I think you should be able to post what you want. I mean, just because you're posting what you want to isn't keeping anyone from posting topics they want to discuss. I personally attribute it to the story reaching a point of general continuity. Think about where we were a year ago. We had NO IDEA what was going on hence there was massive speculation and a load of new info coming in each week. Now the arc has fully been set in motion and it it literally chugging along to its climax. I think that's why there hasn't been as much discussion. Just because we've got children posting isn't preventing any 'deep' posts by anyone else.
Granted repetative posting should be dealt with accordingly and I certainly don't want part in some of the odd discussions but just because they're odd doesn't give me a right to say my posts are any better than your's. We're all OP fans.
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Originally posted by Tash@May 26 2005, 01:02 PM
**The forums are so boring… -_-Something should seriously be done!!**
Yeah…which is why I post so rarely in here, too...
Sigh...I remember the good, old days when I kept visiting the forums more than 8-10 times a day, I couldn't leave my pc for a minute. And I also had one of the highest number of posts, like you Tash-chan. Ahh...thise nice days... :rolleyes:I also noticed that the majority of newly-created threads and new posts lies in the general discussion section or other sections that have nothing to do with One Piece, but, hell, this is a One Piece forum, isn't it? :blink: …
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Yeah…which is why I post so rarely in here, too...
Sigh...I remember the good, old days when I kept visiting the forums more than 8-10 times a day, I couldn't leave my pc for a minute. And I also had one of the highest number of posts, like you Tash-chan. Ahh...thise nice days...Now see. Just because there are some childish threads….why is that stopping anyone from making 'better' threads. I don't see any reason why 'good' threads should suddenly come to a halt. Could it possibly be that there's nothing to discuss at this point??
No one is holding a gun to anyone's head telling them to stop making 'interesting' threads.
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I've noticed this too yet I thought it was just me but guess not then, even I haven't been so active as I used to. I hope it's just a temporary slump though. There really isn't that much room to improve, mods and admins have been always great here, it's the members who makes the forum - for worse or better.
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wh o is the guy witht the red tattoo on his face called dragon?
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Threads like this are bound to happen again and again, they come in a packaged deal with any anime forum. Hang around long enough and you'll also see the same questions asked. A possible solution could be a newbie question section… but then I doubt they'd use it.
EDIT: Darn I wish this could be my 100th post, it's the most sensible thing I've written in a while..
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Well,Not only you and Tash were the top posters in the old forums…I used to be in 2nd place before e1n kicked me down to 3rd...
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Originally posted by Tash@May 26 2005, 07:02 PM
**Thank you so much JudasChris ;_;
That s exactly what I think…I really miss the old forums...We had so much fun... I had more than 2000 posts and now...I only have more than 200 sigh The reason is that the threads are so boring and annoying that I don t feel like posting.
And about the "what are you thinking?" thread... Don t want to sound harsh but I m wondering "can some members actually use their brains and think?"
I think that members should only post when they have something intersting or funny to say. Don t forget that you still can pm eaxh others.Ends with her: The forums are so boring... -_-
Something should seriously be done!!
[snapback]56208[/snapback]**:lol: I was among the top posters back then reminiscences about the past but anyway, instead of just babbling how boring it is, I think we should try and do something ^^ Though I have no idea how.
@KillerSteak: Posts in here don't count. :lol:
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Isn't dropping of the quality kind of expected ever since 4kids started to show One Piece? I don't know if newer members joined this forum after seeing 4kids' One Piece, but if that's true, then they are probably younger and not used to keep up with others and not know how to "read the air" (Japanese expression of observing others' reaction…)
I think it's important to help them grow mature but not just grieving over the quality dropping. With very recent example, What's the best arc in One Piece thread, it's dumb and meaningless if people keep posting only their answer. But if you see those one liner answer, you could ask them why s/he think so. Sure, it'll be extra works for us and I'm sure we'll get tired if this continues, but I still think it's better than replying "You're lowering this forum's quality. You should post more than 4 words!"
Just by changing the way of saying it, you can make that person become more bastard / stay inmature or actually help them grow…
If you don't like helping others to grow and learn this forum's atomasphere, then you don't have to look into those threads. Why don't you, instead, create some interesting topic like how omae said?
Just my opinion.
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Threads like "Out of Context", "Ch. 3xx discussion" are really interesting and could yield either intelligent discussions or a really good laugh. What bugs me is that even though there are threads like this, the stupid threads still appear.
As Ranier said, ignoring the stupid threads is an option. But the problem lies with the other members who post there, too. If they think that it's interesting enough, they help keep the threads alive. It's not entirely the original poster's fault.
It's really personal. I wouldn't want to post on threads like "Prediction on Upcoming Dub" or "Smoker should be appearing soon" or "What u want to see in One Piece" because they seem pointless; after all, they're just speculations. Maybe there should be a pinned Speculation thread?
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Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@May 26 2005, 02:35 PM
**> **Yeah…which is why I post so rarely in here, too...Sigh...I remember the good, old days when I kept visiting the forums more than 8-10 times a day, I couldn't leave my pc for a minute. And I also had one of the highest number of posts, like you Tash-chan. Ahh...thise nice days...**
Now see. Just because there are some childish threads….why is that stopping anyone from making 'better' threads. I don't see any reason why 'good' threads should suddenly come to a halt. Could it possibly be that there's nothing to discuss at this point??
No one is holding a gun to anyone's head telling them to stop making 'interesting' threads.
[snapback]56222[/snapback]**But because of these threads all the good ones are sinking. And not everybody use the search fonction.
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I wish more people would just take a moment to think in terms of "what kind of discussion will this topic generate". I don't think I've ever started a single topic since I've been on this forum, because there's always already a thread that it could fit in.
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As others have said, interesting topics don't help in the battle against stupid threads, cause it seems that most people round here care more bout the winner between Luffy vs Zolo. Sure an interesting topic will make them see for a while that "Wow there are thing except Shichibukai too" but after this they will continue creating the same ol threads. Not every thing that's interesting to me must be interesting to others as well. I would suggest to have an "introduction thread" pinned in the General discussion spot where everyone can post a pic of his, describe hiself and what he likes/dislikes doin, blah blah blah. It might help for a start. And I think that by just ingoring this mess, it's worse. I don't say that we should put more limits to what the users can post (cause there are already limits, and you know that), but fuck, why should I have to see threads that we had created a year ago being revamped again and again? Honestly, the only section that I enjoy postin and find it untouched by this mess is the one…we're not supposed to talk about here. You know what I mean. And that's why I think we should do something with the "Senior member" title too. Maybe you kinda give it too easy these days? I don't think that by closing a topic that it has already been created a million times I limit someone's freedom. I just help this board not to become a whorehouse already.
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We already have an introduction forum -_-
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What kinds of threads do you think are interesting? I think I can name five of them on top of my head, but if told to name ten… whee, there's a bit of problem there.
When I go to this board, the first things that I will see are the topics recently replied on each section. Honestly, most of the time those left me cold because they're usually those 'not-so-interesting-aka-not-discussion-generating' thread that some people love so much. My brain goes, "Erh, let's not go there. Let's go somewhere else."
I got lazy, y'know? An unfair part of me wants to say, "Why should I use my brain to come up with something to talk about while I know whatever thread I'm gonna make is going to be buried under several layers of oblivion by sunset?" Of course I am not supposed to think like that.
I guess the people who post in this thread generally recognize the problem. The way I see it, you guys are the most articulate bunch in this board. You are the ones who carry t3h title. You are the ones n00bs like me look up to when they don't know where to go. Unconsciously, other members want to be like you.
And… most of you have post count above 200 and post count is a powerful motive. Why don't more people go to the General Discussion? Because posting here doesn't add the pretty little number on your left. So where do people go? Why, to the other sections! And how do you up the post count? Post Whore! Wham, bam, thank you ma'am. Nine seconds later the lower quality threads are born.
I have to said Wordy McWord on oceanizer's statement:
**But if you see those one liner answer, you could ask them why s/he think so. Sure, it'll be extra works for us and I'm sure we'll get tired if this continues, but I still think it's better than replying "You're lowering this forum's quality. You should post more than 4 words!"
Just by changing the way of saying it, you can make that person become more bastard / stay inmature or actually help them grow…**
Set an example. Make it a collective thing. Even though it's miniscule, I'm sure an improvement is bound to happen.
::waits for the "STFU, n00b! #^&#$" cries::
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Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@May 26 2005, 01:35 PM
**> **Yeah…which is why I post so rarely in here, too...Sigh...I remember the good, old days when I kept visiting the forums more than 8-10 times a day, I couldn't leave my pc for a minute. And I also had one of the highest number of posts, like you Tash-chan. Ahh...thise nice days...**
Now see. Just because there are some childish threads….why is that stopping anyone from making 'better' threads. I don't see any reason why 'good' threads should suddenly come to a halt. Could it possibly be that there's nothing to discuss at this point??
No one is holding a gun to anyone's head telling them to stop making 'interesting' threads.**
I never said that the "childish" threads are stopping anyone from creating nice ones… It's just that the forums have become more childish, "saturated" and lots of threads are "off-topic" in a way(I mean they have nothing to do with One Piece).
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Okay, let me try rephrasing this.
I have been on the internet since I was 11 or 12, and been into anime since I was 12, almost 13. I remember what it was like to be a young anime fan on the internet. And I am not saying that ALL the younger members here are the ones making silly, pointless threads. I apologize for making such a brash, stereotypical statement. It's true that a lot of said posters ARE younger, but if there's one thing I've learned…Age is not a demonstration of maturity and intelligence levels within posts.
As for those of you who have said "Ignore the silly posts" ...well, you guys are lucky that you HAVE that luxury. The mods and admins HAVE to look at the threads, ESPECIALLY the stupid ones, because those tend to be where the trouble arises. Lately whenever a thread is made there are posts saying "This is stupid! It should be closed!" which causes problems, especially when there is no reason to close it. Further more, as other people have mentioned, pointless topics are boring, and make people not as keen on posting or replying. We are a board that caters to a show that appeals to everyone six to sixty years old, so of course, all ages are welcome to participate. However, we are not a babysitting board or
playground. One Piece might be made to cater to an immature audience. The board, however, is not.I think the polling rule is going to help a lot. Most of the ridiculous threads, especially the silly versus ones that didn't really generate useful discussion, will be gone (except in rare cases where someone has a good idea.) I am also in the process of revising our rules. I hope by doing this we can help keep the quality of the threads up, so that everyone who wants semi-mature discussion, doesn't need to wade through a sea of threads that start like this:
who is bettar, zoro or luffy
and instead, make them look more like this:
You know, after looking at Zoro and Luffy, sometimes I can't really figure out who is more powerful. On one hand, Zoro has years of experience using bladed weapons, on the other hand, Luffy has the power of a devil's fruit, and training on his side. However, I think Zoro would be the ultimate victor, since I feel blades can triumph ultimately over fists, even rubber ones. What do you guys think?
Same old question, but by using a bit of grammar, and putting some thought behind it, it seems a bit more interesting, and likely to spark more interesting replies.
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I really don't think the problem is the threads but the growing negative energy in the forums B).
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Originally posted by Yoska@May 26 2005, 05:19 PM
I really don't think the problem is the threads but the growing negative energy in the forums B).
[snapback]56436[/snapback]Trust me, we know that too. We know it all too well. It is especially bad when you are a mod or an admin trying to stop people from being rude or nasty to other members, and then actually having people bitch at you for upholding a rule. It's yet another thing that will be dealt with in the revised forum rules.
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Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@May 26 2005, 06:35 AM
**> **Yeah…which is why I post so rarely in here, too...Sigh...I remember the good, old days when I kept visiting the forums more than 8-10 times a day, I couldn't leave my pc for a minute. And I also had one of the highest number of posts, like you Tash-chan. Ahh...thise nice days...**
Now see. Just because there are some childish threads….why is that stopping anyone from making 'better' threads. I don't see any reason why 'good' threads should suddenly come to a halt. Could it possibly be that there's nothing to discuss at this point??
No one is holding a gun to anyone's head telling them to stop making 'interesting' threads.
[snapback]56222[/snapback]**Thank you.
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Eh, sorry. But there's just too much riding on this. On one hand, I can't stand bad punctuation, those threads that lack a real point, and those age-old bullshit questions about which One Piece character could beat up another One Piece character.
I don't particularly find that interesting, but some people do. You have to give to get, and some people just aren't as pseudo-intelligent enough to write the next Catcher In The Rye involving Luffy's Rubber Powers.
EDIT: I know, Catcher In The Rye sucks. Sorry, bad analogy.
I guess, really. My head is killing me, and I'm gonna' keep this short and sweet.
You have to cater for all fans of One Piece, of all ages and all levels of.. ahem, 'typing skills'. Sure, I hate bad grammar and so forth as much as the next person, but you have to quit this whole "Us Against Them" attitude and embrace them for who they are. They're a living person, like you and me, they might be interested in these things.
The fear of being poked at and picked on here is high. I know this, because my pal Tom, known here as Cap'n Big Nose, is a more regular user than I've been lately. He complained to me about how certain members had picked at his posts, just for small things such as bringing up a point that had already been brought up.
My advice to him was to get onto someone official, like a Mod, Admin, whoever. I can't stand this whole attitude some people have aboard the Internet, where they can talk down to someone who they deem inferior, over tiny little things like how much One Piece knowledge they have.
I've seen thirty episodes in Japanese/Subs, read the first volume in English by Shonen Jump, and I own two of the Japanese Video-Games. I'm no expert, but I have damn well show respect to everyone here, regardless of what they know, or what they don't know.
I must admit, the majority of members are extremely kind, helpful souls, but there are the odd few bad seeds that act as though they run the joint, and treat people like dirt. I wish the attitude could be a bit lighter, because however you look at it, this is a family orientated vehicle.
Sure, there's blood, sex, swearing, but this is Toei Animation, for the love of Christ. Children watch this show, amongst older people, and if some of these said, **'Newbies', can't type as well, who gives a damn? - They are entitled to a valid opinion, too.
There -is- a growing negative energy, and I suggest we should all let it die down, and respect our fellow members. Whoever they are, and whatever they want to talk about.
Because, after all, we can't all be perfect, can we?**
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Thank you, Oi Sanji. You've said something I've really wanted to say for a long time.
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Originally posted by Cap'n Carter@May 26 2005, 10:42 PM
Thank you, Oi Sanji. You've said something I've really wanted to say for a long time.
[snapback]56453[/snapback]Seriously? - I just thought that it was best to leave it at that, and move on.
Either road, I hope everyone else feels the same way as we do on this subject.
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I agree with you, Oi. There will always be noobs, it's just a part of life. :3 It's not like they want to be irritating or what-not, they just want to talk OP. But I do think a thread-start limit might be a pretty good idea (and maybe there can be a newbie question thread where they can ask questions to their heart's content or somthing).
Now I'll shake everybody's hand (shakes Carly, omae no kaasan v.2, CosmicDebris, changsho, taboo, HellBladeKnight, Akira, Bloodfoot, Jacobo, ooshi78, The Dude, Seta Ginny, Solar Knight, JudasChrist) and hope that you can forgive our mistakes.
Don't inlude me in that! Heaven knows I make my fair share of stupid posts. :3