I think he'd simply just cry.
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I think he'd simply just cry.
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would he understand them?
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That´s what I wanted to ask. If he doesn´t understand them I guess he would be happy judging just by the crappy edit´s.
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If he did he would either cry, die or go completely gaga and slaughter everyone involved in makin the dubs. Personally I favour the last choice. :lol:
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He would laugh…a lot.
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I hope to think that he would go to the headquarters of 4kids. Walk through the revolving doors, pull three Katanas out of there Sheaths, one in each hand one in his mouth and slash the hell out of the first floor, making his way to the evelator when he would leave the Katanas.
Then when the lift stops at the top floor Officeroom, where the CEO of 4kids is sitting in his revolving chair. Oda would run up to the desk jump over it, pushing him and the CEO out of the huge glass window. As there falling Oda is punching the shit out of the CEO, then suddenly Oda shouts "GUMU GUMU!!!" and headbutts him into the ground. Thus killing the Evil in the world!
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He would laugh…a lot.
Agreed. I don't think he'd take it that seriously.
What I'm interested in, however, is how the average Japanese One Piece fan would react. Less positively, I'm sure.
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I think omae said once that the Japanese fans didn't have a positive reaction to it.
Originally posted by Heritic@May 22 2005, 10:07 AM
He would laugh…a lot.
[snapback]53765[/snapback]He'd giggle, and then burst out when a translator explains the changes in the script. Then he'd go back in his cage.
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Realistically he would probably be amused.
Though I do have to wonder how he would feel about Nami's flashback.
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He would proabably go on a killing spree after seeing what they did to Bellemere.
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I think he'd laugh quite a lot. Even if he doesn't understand english much at least he can tell how silly the voices are.
Though if I were him, I'd be a bit offended since the editors basically cut out so much of the anime, that it ruins it for the viewers.
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Hn… How 'bout if it was also subbed into Japanese? I'm pretty sure he'd love to see the slaughtered dialogue.
I agree though, he'd probably laugh... Or cry... But probably the former. Anybody who hears Usopp's voice can't help but cry though, I'd wanna see his reaction on the whole double epiode of Nami's flashback. I'd wanna see his reaction at the editing of one of the most emotionally powerful things in the series (Yes. I cried, I re-read the chapter again last night, and despite my intense love of Arlong, I cried and called him a twat.)
DAMN YOU 4KIDS!
--Saito
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I really doubt Oda cares that much.
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Perhaps not, but if you were him, you'd want western audiences to see your creation how you originally intended it, not some poorly edited and dubbed version with dialogue you wouldn't shake a stick at… I mean, I'd be slightly ticked at least...
Though, I could just see him sat there watching it, while laughing and thinking 'why didn't I think of that' or something... Seriously, it wouldn't suprise me...
--Saito
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Originally posted by Cap'n Carter@May 22 2005, 05:40 PM
I really doubt Oda cares that much.
[snapback]53824[/snapback]Well you have to look at it from an artistic point of view. Oda is an artist and One Piece is his artwork. Among expressing yourself through artwork you are also interested in people´s feedback, no matter where they are from.
And actually even though it is the manga he put his soul into he still loves the anime. He said that himself in the SBS. Even with all the filler stuff they did a great job on transfering his intentions and thoughts into an audiovisual media.
But 4Kids just dropped the ball. They completely slaughtered one artists work and even worse they confront those people with it who actually don´t have any idea about the real deal. As an artists I would be very sad about this. It´s one thing if somebody doesn´t like your artwork if it doesn´t appeal that much to that person. But it´s a completely different thing if someone´s artwork isn´t appreciated, when you actually don´t know the real deal. That´s very sad.
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He'll proboally just be happy that more viewers are seeing his work and dimiss all the things 4Kids has done to it.
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I agree with RomanMack. Very few manga authors/artists really seem to consider their work particularly "artistic", and Oda's among the majority, from what I've read. If he saw the dub (and, as pointed out, understood it), he probably wouldn't care too much about what had been done with it, because the adventures he himself created are, at their core, being brought to an even larger audience. Children all over the world are getting to see what he's done, and don't you think that'd be more important to him than whether or not certain details were changed to make it accessible in that way.
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I'm sure he'd hide in a corner, thinking "Why? Why have they tampered with my precious one piece…"
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Originally posted by Captain Panda@May 22 2005, 06:15 PM
Very few manga authors/artists really seem to consider their work particularly "artistic"…
[snapback]53844[/snapback]I´m sorry but that is one of the stupidest things I´ve ever heard. Just because it isn´t an opera or a portrait picture it doesn´t mean that it isn´t a piece of art. Every work that is a product of a creative, cognitive and soulful creation process is a piece of art. And the media manga itself is one of the media of modern arts. The content itself, is left for the reader to decide whether he accepts it as art or not, but there´s no question about the media itself.
And if you need further proof for that, all of my professors at the subject of history of arts at my university consider manga as a media of modern art. It´s just the content that (as with any other media) can be put up for discussion.
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I think you're misunderstanding my meaning. Based on interviews and such that I've read, the general consensus seems to be that manga authors/artists are less concerned with their work itself and more concerned with the fact that it entertains the ones they've created it for. Most manga artists don't really care about the "artistic" side to their work. They're more happy with the fact that the audience loves what they've done.
This is why I feel that Oda probably does/would approve of the English dub of the series…because whether some of the more elitist fans want to admit it or not...it's loved by a rather large number of people. And at it's core, it's still One Piece. Dumbing it down may give it a new face, but it's "heart" is still the same.
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Originally posted by Captain Panda@May 22 2005, 12:15 PM
I agree with RomanMack. Very few manga authors/artists really seem to consider their work particularly "artistic", and Oda's among the majority, from what I've read. If he saw the dub (and, as pointed out, understood it), he probably wouldn't care too much about what had been done with it, because the adventures he himself created are, at their core, being brought to an even larger audience. Children all over the world are getting to see what he's done, and don't you think that'd be more important to him than whether or not certain details were changed to make it accessible in that way.
[snapback]53844[/snapback]Well yeah like he said, the main idea is still in the dub so Oda will most likely just be happy more people are seeing his work, even though it has some "rough" edges.
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Originally posted by RomanMack@May 22 2005, 12:39 PM
even though it has some "rough" edges.
[snapback]53867[/snapback]cough
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Hirohiko Araki was really annoyed with the changes that were made for the U.S. Jojo game. Whether or not manga-ka say that their creations are art, it should be evident how much most care for them.
Of course Oda wouldn't make negative comments or anything, but I do feel there'd be slight disappointment. You can really tell that he's put effort into the series, cares for it, and just what he had in mind for the scene wih Bellemere's death. It had a point. As did Kuina's. Those blows being softened on one screen, and Takahashi's Inuyasha in full on another probably wouldn't give him the best impression of America's take on his work.
So no, I don't think he'd express disappointment, and would probably just look at the big picture. But seeing One Piece like that, I'm sure he couldn't be "happy."
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Originally posted by Cap'n Big Nose@May 22 2005, 09:08 AM
**I hope to think that he would go to the headquarters of 4kids. Walk through the revolving doors, pull three Katanas out of there Sheaths, one in each hand one in his mouth and slash the hell out of the first floor, making his way to the evelator when he would leave the Katanas.Then when the lift stops at the top floor Officeroom, where the CEO of 4kids is sitting in his revolving chair. Oda would run up to the desk jump over it, pushing him and the CEO out of the huge glass window. As there falling Oda is punching the shit out of the CEO, then suddenly Oda shouts "GUMU GUMU!!!" and headbutts him into the ground. Thus killing the Evil in the world!
[snapback]53766[/snapback]**You just give me a new Doujinshi idea,Too bad I cant draw good.
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Well, he was delighted to tell about the changes of foreign editions of One Piece, so he would probably just enjoy it. At least it means more pocket money for him :P.
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He'd probably be like WTF?!
Yeah i think he would find it amusing how someone actually had the guts to ruin a great art piece and turn it into a parody. Cuz I really think it's the Parody of One-Piece… -_- -
It does not matter what he would think because he can't say anything . He sold the "anime rights" to Toei and they to 4Kids . The first party can not tell the third party what to do with what they bought . If "A" gave "B" something and "B" gave it to you, does "A" have the right to tell you what to do with it ? If I had never see an One Piece episode, then I would not have a problem . These kids have not, but I have some kids say it is too silly to watch . I think these people (you know who they are) will not be happy untill they get an One Piece on the level as the Sopranos .
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I don't know if I'd go that far. It's true that Oda, more than likely, doesn't really have a significant amount of input into how the Japanese anime is produced, and almost certainly none at all with regards to the English version, but that doesn't mean his opinion all of a sudden "doesn't count", per se. As the original creator, his views mean a lot to the fans, if nothing else.
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Oda probably wouldn't care much. I'd like to see TOEI's reaction, though.
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I did not mean it as harsh as it sounded . It is just these….... sorry for a better word, dumbasses, saying " He needs to kill 4kids! Die ! Die ! Die !!!!!!!!! If you do not like it , turn it off . Not kill,kill,kill,die,die,die..........Jason ? :blink: :P .
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Originally posted by Captain Panda@May 22 2005, 06:36 PM
… Most manga artists don't really care about the "artistic" side to their work. They're more happy with the fact that the audience loves what they've done.
[snapback]53863[/snapback]But that is exactly how artists feel. I guess what the mangaka try to say in their interviews is that they don´t consider their work in the same league as for instance "Mona Lisa" etc. which is legitim because the media and the artists intentions are different. But one thing they do have in common and that´s that they are pieces of artistic work which means (I know I repear myself) that it is created during a cognitive and creative prosses in which a person expresses his own ideas, world, heart and sould to the audience.
That´s what defines an artist. :D
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Originally posted by op74@May 22 2005, 01:43 PM
I did not mean it as harsh as it sounded . It is just these….... sorry for a better word, dumbasses, saying " He needs to kill 4kids! Die ! Die ! Die !!!!!!!!! If you do not like it , turn it off . Not kill,kill,kill,die,die,die..........Jason ? :blink: :P .
[snapback]53913[/snapback]Well, on that matter, I'll agree with you!
Also, Ivotas, I more or less agree with you as well, which is why I think you might've misunderstood me. I just think Oda's actions and words seem to put more an emphasis on the idea that he cares less about a perfect transition of his work and more about the fact that said work is appreciated.
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Originally posted by Ivotas+May 22 2005, 01:45 PM–>QUOTE(Ivotas @ May 22 2005, 01:45 PM)
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Originally posted by RomanMack+May 22 2005, 01:54 PM–>QUOTE(RomanMack @ May 22 2005, 01:54 PM) _> Originally posted by Ivotas@May 22 2005, 01:45 PM
**… Most manga artists don't really care about the "artistic" side to their work. They're more happy with the fact that the audience loves what they've done.
[snapback]53863[/snapback]But that is exactly how artists feel. I guess what the mangaka try to say in their interviews is that they don´t consider their work in the same league as for instance "Mona Lisa" etc. which is legitim because the media and the artists intentions are different. But one thing they do have in common and that´s that they are pieces of artistic work which means (I know I repear myself) that it is created during a cognitive and creative prosses in which a person expresses his own ideas, world, heart and sould to the audience.
That´s what defines an artist. :D
[snapback]53916[/snapback]**Well that's why the main story really has'nt been tampared with. The quest for One Piece, all the characters, and their dreams are still there. Plus all of them got their original names (besides Zoro but I don't think he'll be mad for a simple L) I think he would understand that some things would have to be altered in order for it to be acceptible for it's audience over here in the U.S. Yeah so alot of things get changed, namely the violent parts, but I think Oda would want to subject his work to the whole world, even if it goes through some changes, rathar than just Japan. Yeah he'll proboally be happier if he saw it and it was ENTIRELY the same and uncut. But still I think he's okay about it since his story is still getting exposore to the world and gaining fans.
[snapback]53925[/snapback]Your being ridiculous if you think that plot is all that matters, ESPECIALLY in concern to One Piece._
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I'd be a bit iffy if my characters were carrying Super Soakers. A bit wierded out too.
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Originally posted by RomanMack+May 22 2005, 07:54 PM–>QUOTE(RomanMack @ May 22 2005, 07:54 PM) _> Originally posted by Ivotas@May 22 2005, 01:45 PM
**… Most manga artists don't really care about the "artistic" side to their work. They're more happy with the fact that the audience loves what they've done.
[snapback]53863[/snapback]But that is exactly how artists feel. I guess what the mangaka try to say in their interviews is that they don´t consider their work in the same league as for instance "Mona Lisa" etc. which is legitim because the media and the artists intentions are different. But one thing they do have in common and that´s that they are pieces of artistic work which means (I know I repear myself) that it is created during a cognitive and creative prosses in which a person expresses his own ideas, world, heart and sould to the audience.
That´s what defines an artist. :D
[snapback]53916[/snapback]**Well that's why the main story really has'nt been tampared with. The quest for One Piece, all the characters, and their dreams are still there. Plus all of them got their original names (besides Zoro but I don't think he'll be mad for a simple L) I think he would understand that some things would have to be altered in order for it to be acceptible for it's audience over here in the U.S. Yeah so alot of things get changed, namely the violent parts, but I think Oda would want to subject his work to the whole world, even if it goes through changes, rathar than just Japan. Yeah he'll proboally be happier if he saw it and it was ENTIRELY the same and uncut. But still I think he's okay about it since his story is still getting exposore to the world and gaining fans.
[snapback]53925[/snapback]I see your point however I still disagree. While I agree that changes don´t necessarily must mean that the artist´s main intention is ruined some of the 4Kids changes definitely lead the viewer to a whole different view of the product. I haven´t seen what happened to Kuina or Bellemere in the dub but from what I´ve heard it´s been negative changes. And since these two scenes are changes on a character´s origin it completely means changing the mental appearance of a character. What happened in the past had a direct affect on the dream and development of the main characters. If you change that you change what people should think of them.
And same goes for the violence. I´m not a person who loves violence for the sake of it, but changing Kriegs arrows to suction cups or whatever they are called completely ruin Luffy´s appearance because it completely changes the interpretation you can get from this scenes. The two interpretations are as follows; Scenario 1. Luffy get´s hit by that 4Kids suction sticks, would make him appear like he´s only reckless to that extent that he would even accept a beating.
Scenario 2. When Luffy attack Krieg without caring for the arrows he´s completely ready to give his own life to defeat him. This is totally different over just accepting defeat.That´s why I think the do a lot of damage to the character´s. Unlike us, people who just watch the dub, can get the completely wrong idea of the character´s which is a sad thing, because Oda has put so much heart into creating them._
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Originally posted by Zephos+May 22 2005, 02:00 PM–>QUOTE(Zephos @ May 22 2005, 02:00 PM) _> Originally posted by RomanMack@May 22 2005, 01:54 PM
**> Originally posted by Ivotas@May 22 2005, 01:45 PM
**… Most manga artists don't really care about the "artistic" side to their work. They're more happy with the fact that the audience loves what they've done.
[snapback]53863[/snapback]But that is exactly how artists feel. I guess what the mangaka try to say in their interviews is that they don´t consider their work in the same league as for instance "Mona Lisa" etc. which is legitim because the media and the artists intentions are different. But one thing they do have in common and that´s that they are pieces of artistic work which means (I know I repear myself) that it is created during a cognitive and creative prosses in which a person expresses his own ideas, world, heart and sould to the audience.
That´s what defines an artist. :D
[snapback]53916[/snapback]**Well that's why the main story really has'nt been tampared with. The quest for One Piece, all the characters, and their dreams are still there. Plus all of them got their original names (besides Zoro but I don't think he'll be mad for a simple L) I think he would understand that some things would have to be altered in order for it to be acceptible for it's audience over here in the U.S. Yeah so alot of things get changed, namely the violent parts, but I think Oda would want to subject his work to the whole world, even if it goes through some changes, rathar than just Japan. Yeah he'll proboally be happier if he saw it and it was ENTIRELY the same and uncut. But still I think he's okay about it since his story is still getting exposore to the world and gaining fans.
[snapback]53925[/snapback]**Your being ridiculous if you think that plot is all that matters, ESPECIALLY in concern to One Piece.
[snapback]53929[/snapback]No I'm being sane and telling the truth. Like I said most of Oda's intent is still in the dub. Changes have been made and yeah he could say " Damn. I don't like what they did to that scene." And also he would've proboally been happier if it was uncut on Adult Swim or something since nothing would get cut. But like I said most artists want more people to know and enjoy their work, and I'm sure he'll understand that the dub has to go through some changes for it to be "appropriate" for the audience it was targeted for here. Oda will say " Well some of it was changed, but I'm glad more people outside my birthplace are experiencing my story. Basicly, I think that hard core fans such as yourself would be more pissed at 4Kids than Oda would be._
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You see the scene from Revenge of the Sith where Anakin kills the separists? Just like that Oda will do it.
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Originally posted by RomanMack+May 22 2005, 02:10 PM–>QUOTE(RomanMack @ May 22 2005, 02:10 PM) _> Originally posted by Zephos@May 22 2005, 02:00 PM
**> Originally posted by RomanMack@May 22 2005, 01:54 PM
**> Originally posted by Ivotas@May 22 2005, 01:45 PM
**… Most manga artists don't really care about the "artistic" side to their work. They're more happy with the fact that the audience loves what they've done.
[snapback]53863[/snapback]But that is exactly how artists feel. I guess what the mangaka try to say in their interviews is that they don´t consider their work in the same league as for instance "Mona Lisa" etc. which is legitim because the media and the artists intentions are different. But one thing they do have in common and that´s that they are pieces of artistic work which means (I know I repear myself) that it is created during a cognitive and creative prosses in which a person expresses his own ideas, world, heart and sould to the audience.
That´s what defines an artist. :D
[snapback]53916[/snapback]**Well that's why the main story really has'nt been tampared with. The quest for One Piece, all the characters, and their dreams are still there. Plus all of them got their original names (besides Zoro but I don't think he'll be mad for a simple L) I think he would understand that some things would have to be altered in order for it to be acceptible for it's audience over here in the U.S. Yeah so alot of things get changed, namely the violent parts, but I think Oda would want to subject his work to the whole world, even if it goes through some changes, rathar than just Japan. Yeah he'll proboally be happier if he saw it and it was ENTIRELY the same and uncut. But still I think he's okay about it since his story is still getting exposore to the world and gaining fans.
[snapback]53925[/snapback]**Your being ridiculous if you think that plot is all that matters, ESPECIALLY in concern to One Piece.
[snapback]53929[/snapback]**No I'm being sane and telling the truth. Like I said most of Oda's intent is still in the dub. Changes have been made and yeah he could say " Damn. I don't like what they did to that scene." And also he would've proboally been happier if it was uncut on Adult Swim or something since nothing would get cut. But like I said most artists want more people to know and enjoy their work, and I'm sure he'll understand that the dub has to go through some changes for it to be "appropriate" for the audience it was targeted for here. Oda will say " Well some of it was changed, but I'm glad more people outside my birthplace are experiencing my story. Basicly, I think that hard core fans such as yourself would be more pissed at 4Kids than Oda would be.
[snapback]53943[/snapback]You ignored what I said. The heart and soul of One Piece is so much more than the plot. Tell me THAT is still alive.
Honestly, Oda shouldn't give much of a shit. Its not even HIS work. Its the animated version of his work somebody else made.
The manga in the US (aside from Zolo) is as you say, just right._
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Originally posted by Zephos+May 22 2005, 03:57 PM–>QUOTE(Zephos @ May 22 2005, 03:57 PM) _> Originally posted by RomanMack@May 22 2005, 02:10 PM
**> Originally posted by Zephos@May 22 2005, 02:00 PM
**> Originally posted by RomanMack@May 22 2005, 01:54 PM
**> Originally posted by Ivotas@May 22 2005, 01:45 PM
**… Most manga artists don't really care about the "artistic" side to their work. They're more happy with the fact that the audience loves what they've done.
[snapback]53863[/snapback]But that is exactly how artists feel. I guess what the mangaka try to say in their interviews is that they don´t consider their work in the same league as for instance "Mona Lisa" etc. which is legitim because the media and the artists intentions are different. But one thing they do have in common and that´s that they are pieces of artistic work which means (I know I repear myself) that it is created during a cognitive and creative prosses in which a person expresses his own ideas, world, heart and sould to the audience.
That´s what defines an artist. :D
[snapback]53916[/snapback]**Well that's why the main story really has'nt been tampared with. The quest for One Piece, all the characters, and their dreams are still there. Plus all of them got their original names (besides Zoro but I don't think he'll be mad for a simple L) I think he would understand that some things would have to be altered in order for it to be acceptible for it's audience over here in the U.S. Yeah so alot of things get changed, namely the violent parts, but I think Oda would want to subject his work to the whole world, even if it goes through some changes, rathar than just Japan. Yeah he'll proboally be happier if he saw it and it was ENTIRELY the same and uncut. But still I think he's okay about it since his story is still getting exposore to the world and gaining fans.
[snapback]53925[/snapback]**Your being ridiculous if you think that plot is all that matters, ESPECIALLY in concern to One Piece.
[snapback]53929[/snapback]**No I'm being sane and telling the truth. Like I said most of Oda's intent is still in the dub. Changes have been made and yeah he could say " Damn. I don't like what they did to that scene." And also he would've proboally been happier if it was uncut on Adult Swim or something since nothing would get cut. But like I said most artists want more people to know and enjoy their work, and I'm sure he'll understand that the dub has to go through some changes for it to be "appropriate" for the audience it was targeted for here. Oda will say " Well some of it was changed, but I'm glad more people outside my birthplace are experiencing my story. Basicly, I think that hard core fans such as yourself would be more pissed at 4Kids than Oda would be.
[snapback]53943[/snapback]**You ignored what I said. The heart and soul of One Piece is so much more than the plot. Tell me THAT is still alive.
Honestly, Oda shouldn't give much of a shit. Its not even HIS work. Its the animated version of his work somebody else made.
The manga in the US (aside from Zolo) is as you say, just right.
[snapback]54029[/snapback]Well all I know is, I don't think Oda will throw a tantrum if he sees the dub. he'll just be happy that it's getting exposure, manga and anime. And no, I did'nt ignore you. So don't say that I did._
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Originally posted by Borlz+May 22 2005, 06:02 PM–>QUOTE(Borlz @ May 22 2005, 06:02 PM)
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What I'd like to know is why all you people think you know Oda enough to say how he'd feel about somthing. Personally, I don't think he'd be too happy with the crazy editing but that's just me (because I know if someone messed up my greatest creation….) Anyway. I had this article in Animerica talking about Oda and his influence in what happens in the anime.
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Originally posted by taboo@May 22 2005, 11:25 PM
What I'd like to know is why all you people think you know Oda enough to say how he'd feel about somthing…
[snapback]54099[/snapback]Nope I don´t know him personally. But being an artist myself, having enjoyed arts and literature at school where I was very good at and studying it right now since ten semesters I can assure you that I have really good understanding of the way how artists think and feel.
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I agree with you. I'm planning on getting a Masters in art myself, and I draw a great deal too. :3 It wouldn't be a very happy feeling if someone were to totally rearrange somthing I put all effort and pride into. But that's how I personally feel about it.
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Myself too. Like I said earlier in the thread.
But Oda's the kind of guy who you can't really take seriously the way he answers questions and reacts to things.
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I don't know how he would react to the dub, but if he did hate it does he have any right at all to ask 4kids to change things around? I'm not completely sure on how the anime/manga lisencing legalities work.
EDIT: I just realized that of course he has the right to ask them, but my question is would 4kids have to listen to him.
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This sounds a bit off from the topic, but let me tell you.
Original Shonen Jump always has each artist's comments
in the end of the magazines.At the next week of Bellemere-san's later flashback Episode was aired,
Oda's commentwas like this."I saw that Episode of Bellemere and I shed a tear.
Darn, Anime's not fair.They have much more way to
express things than Manga(T_T)."…So it's obvious he appreciates the anime pretty much.
As you could recognize in some SBS,
(Check out Stephen's script if you haven't)
here
He's even welcoming some edits in the Original anime.I really wonder how he'll react when he sees pointless 4kids' though…
Edits from anime to manga
Ace's key-fret-like tattoo
-> CrossMr.2's 'Okama-Way' on his back
-> 'Bon-Kure'(one of Japanese holidays), which his name 'Bon-Clay' was based on.If my memory is correct, I couldn't identify any navel on dancer-fashioned
Nami/Vivi's belly.Recent edit:
Sherry was shot on a leg by Foxy's gun
-> captured by some kind of special-net-thing which came out of
Foxy's special-gun-thing :DI think censorship in Japan is also getting more strict.
I'm seriously worrying that how the staff is gonna handle the scene
where Franky get knocked down by that huge train...
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Thanks for sharing that quote Mr.Tomato-head. It was very informative and it confirms how I thought Oda thinks these parts of the anime. I would be so interested in hearing what his opinion about the entire Hiluluk´s sakura scene is in episode 90. The music and the colors definitely include much more feeling then the manga so I´d be really interested in his feedback.
Anyways about the upcomming edits, while I agree that the train scene might be controversial I don´t know if the Foxy net could be taking as an indicator for cencorship getting more strict in the anime. OK sherry didn´t get shot by a bullet but in the end Toei may have planned to go with the net because of the comedy part when Luffy and Foxy shoot in the air. I surely loved that episode. Besides it isn´t Aokiji who helped Tonjit to get to his people so maybe there was already a plan where they thought that a fit Sherry might work better (I have to admit that I haven´t seen the episode how Tonjid moved on so far, so my speculation might be complete BS). Just a thought anyways.:)
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Originally posted by Ivotas@May 23 2005, 08:07 PM
Besides it isn´t Aokiji who helped Tonjit to get to his people so maybe there was already a plan where they thought that a fit Sherry might work better (I have to admit that I haven´t seen the episode how Tonjid moved on so far, so my speculation might be complete BS). Just a thought anyways.:)
[snapback]54456[/snapback]Yeah, that was one BIG change.
I guess they just wanted to let story progress as slow as possible…
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u'd probably never herefrom him again :(