LOL. What a cruel way to start a chapter!
Monster 8
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Bringing Toku back like that just to have him see his daughter get munched on by a monster is just plain cruel. :(
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@QueenTangerine3 said in Monster 8:
Bringing Toku back like that just to have him see his daughter get munched on by a monster is just plain cruel. :(
Doesn't every bride get munched on by a monster on during their wedding in their fathers eyes?
Joking aside I didn't even know this character appeared already until you mentioned it.
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But his daughter survived, didn't she?
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What a tease
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Let the shit roll!!
I notice she's still using the axe, though.
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The suit, yes, but the axe seems to be her original.
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It's getting more and more exciting.
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Hoshina's suit is my least favorite design-wise so far and I think it's bc of the tail. Otherwise I'm super excited to see everyone in action.
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How can you not love #10?
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Absolutely. I fully enjoyed the dynamic between him and Hoshina, that got a big silly grin on my face.
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Hoshina is ready to rip a new one with this kaiju and I'm really looking forward to it.
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New chapter. New ship.
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They're like an old married couple, and I love it.
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Alright, that does it : I looooooove the bickering suit. Let's forget about Kafka and make that tandem the new main characters. XD
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Kafka and #10 need some heart-to-heart.
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That's the thing. It had not hit me until now, but #8 is mindless: Kafka doesn't face any foreign entity other than himself.
#9 is a bastard whom we can love to hate, #10 is an endearing warmongering beast, but #8 is just not there. It's Kafka all alone and his personnality isn't the most interesting of the bunch. I liked him initially when he was this older guy trying to fit in a harsh competitive environment with what knowledge he had, all the while fighting to keep his powers a secret. But ever since #8 went public, the lasting impression is that he is often lacking self-confidence, or afraid, or eager to improve but with little on-panel results. Whereas the rest of the cast has been developping by leaps and bounds.
All of the above made sense and logically his turn should come soon - and I will likely enjoy it; but at the moment I'm more interested in the other characters because Kafka didn't promise much beyond "learn how to fight properly".
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We've had a hint that there's "something more" inside Kafka, in that he almost lost control. And we know it was thinking something right before it possessed him. So it's there, it just hasn't made a real debut.
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For Kafka the questions still is why that thing even combined with him in the first place. It just went "found you" and that was it. I'm really looking forward to when it's revealed why it had to be Kafka.
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The "buddy comedy" suit indeed.
Mina is cool, but we've never seen her do anything but shoot a big gun.
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Buddy Comedy Suit for the win !!!
And yes, so far Mina has been this (litterally) distant figure most of the time who doesn't do anything other than snipe and look cool - except during the #8 capture arc. Maybe she will shine later on, but at the moment Hoshina and the other commanders are more interesting to watch.
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So far we haven't been shown if it takes any sort of particular talent to shoot a big gun, other than not falling over from the backlash. Everyone keeps praising her, but I'm waiting to see what exactly makes her special.
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I would say that has something to do with that entire sync rate with their suits and stuff. Like he shots being significantly stronger when she fires the rifles.
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I know it's a manga but shooting targets accurately from 20km away sounds pretty impressive to me. It's not as flashy as Hoshina slicing and dicing enemies up close but having a good sniper is often an after taught and it's good to see one getting things done.
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@PatTraverse I would argue that in a scifi manga where homing missiles and artillery are a given, hitting a giant target from several kilometers away is nothing too impressive. Possibly the suit gives it an extra punch conventional weapons would lack and as a result she has to take the shot manually, which is admittedly no small feat.
Either way she does get things done, I'm not questioning this. But because it's almost always from very far away and involves little-to-no interactions with her troops other than praise, I find it rather...bland to watch ? So far I'm under the impression she spent 80% of the manga as Mrs Stoic Van Badass and I do not find it very rewarding in terms of character. -
@Seafarer33 said in Monster 8:
@PatTraverse I would argue that in a scifi manga where homing missiles and artillery are a given, hitting a giant target from several kilometers away is nothing too impressive. Possibly the suit gives it an extra punch conventional weapons would lack and as a result she has to take the shot manually, which is admittedly no small feat.
You're comparing apples and oranges here mate. Homing missles and the like is completely technoligy based. Having pinpoint accuracy over a distance of 20 kilometers is some insane skill. Even if we argue that the technological equipment is required to take such a shot it's still a tool that a skilled sniper will have to make use of. I know I wouldn't be able to make such a shot even if said technology existed and I was given full access over it.
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@Ivotas that's the thing, though. These people obviously have technology advanced enough for targeting devices that should make delivering massive firepower straightfoward enough - especially the mega-cannon last chapter. Yet the manga never bothered to tell us why the captain has to take the shots herself or what her suit does with these big guns that conventional technology couldn't achieve. So it looks cool, and I will repeat, I acknowledge it is no small feat that she can take these shots at all. But, it's also dumb because until proven otherwise, anyone could be pulling that trigger and she is 20 kms away while her crew are on the frontline taking risks.
Most monster suits we've seen so far rely on close combat. Hers (assuming she has a monster suit at all) is the only one that fights long range and I'd love to hear more about it
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@Seafarer33 said in Monster 8:
@Ivotas that's the thing, though. These people obviously have technology advanced enough for targeting devices that should make delivering massive firepower straightfoward enough - especially the mega-cannon last chapter. Yet the manga never bothered to tell us why the captain has to take the shots herself or what her suit does with these big guns that conventional technology couldn't achieve. So it looks cool, and I will repeat, I acknowledge it is no small feat that she can take these shots at all. But, it's also dumb because until proven otherwise, anyone could be pulling that trigger and she is 20 kms away while her crew are on the frontline taking risks.
Sniping is more than just pulling the trigger. Do you really need me to explain why? If we go by that logic then let's say Hoshina is also not impressive anyone could swing around sharp things. Obviously there more to both slashing and sniping.
Most monster suits we've seen so far rely on close combat. Hers (assuming she has a monster suit at all) is the only one that fights long range and I'd love to hear more about it.
So if her monster suit is a long ranged type would that make it yet another suit like the others that take advantage of the soldiers unique strenghts? If that's the case how is it more lame than the others?
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Sniping is more than just pulling the trigger. Do you really need me to explain why?
Do you really need to ask ?
Again, my problem here is that - unless I am misremembering - prior to this chapter the story never bothered to mention even once that Mina is a sniper, or that she can do things other snipers can't.
Or what she can do in general for that matter, other than taking down dozens of Kaijus. Beyond chapter 2 she is very rarely seen except for the occasional big-gun cameo, which is my real beef with her. She is like early pre-donut Katakuri, if you prefer: impressive feats of strength, badass looks, almost zero interesting character traits. Sniping vs homing missiles or whatever is just a technical side issue over which I definitely won't lose sleep.
So yes, I stand by my impression: until the story tells us otherwise any other nameless sniper worth their salt could be manning that gun and therefore I would much rather have her on the frontline where she can interact with the rest of the cast and be an actual key character of the story.
If she does so with a monster suit that is fit for long-range combat I will be perfectly happy because it means we will at least have gotten to hear about it . The only things I can tell for sure about her at the moment are "Kafka's childooh friend, has a tiger, loves big guns", which I find rather lacking for a character whom I initially expected to hold a larger part in the story.
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@Seafarer33 said in Monster 8:
Sniping is more than just pulling the trigger. Do you really need me to explain why?
Do you really need to ask ?
If you say something like "anyone could be pulling that trigger" the yes, I need to ask. You are not the one that should be going rolleyes here.
Again, my problem here is that - unless I am misremembering - prior to this chapter the story never bothered to mention even once that Mina is a sniper, or that she can do things other snipers can't.
She has been established to be a ranged fighter prior to this. How far the range has not been established yet, which in itself is not a bad thing if it get's revealed naturally as the story progresses. That's better than an out of place info dump.
Or what she can do in general for that matter, other than taking down dozens of Kaijus. Beyond chapter 2 she is very rarely seen except for the occasional big-gun cameo, which is my real beef with her. She is like early pre-donut Katakuri, if you prefer: impressive feats of strength, badass looks, almost zero interesting character traits. Sniping vs homing missiles or whatever is just a technical side issue over which I definitely won't lose sleep.
That we don't know much about her is completely discussion altogether. That's by no means a way judge her snioing skills as lame. If you don't like it then that's ok. But saying stuff like it's not impressie because anyone could be pulling that trigger is just a wrong statement and it has nothing to do with our lack of information on her.
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If you say something like "anyone could be pulling that trigger" the yes, I need to ask. You are not the one that should be going rolleyes here.
Oh come on. Did you really think I litterally meant it in the sense that any random person could have been the one pulling the trigger with similar results? I wrote in every previous post how I did acknowledge that taking these shots is no easy feat, so indeed I am rolling eyes because I felt slightly insulted by the condescending comment that came nonetheless. Let me rephrase:
Yes, thanks you, I know that sniping isn't just pulling a trigger and shooting monsters 20 kms away is an impossible feat of precision. It makes for cool visuals that I enjoyed, yet so would a number of other heavy long-ranged weapons.
But in the reader's perspective it means Mina is 20kms away from the action and once again reduced to a stoic badass with one-liners and a BFG. I would prefer by far if she were in the thick of things at the side of her troops, having actual interactions and dialog, showing emotions and human behaviour - she almost acts like a machine this chapter. Any other character with appropriate skills could handle the sniping, or the defense force could fire missiles or use drones or have their giant railgun be computer-aimed for all I care. She doesn't have to be the one sniping because doing this essentially maintains her (as a character) in this bland state that I dislike.Anyway, let's drop the subject. Bottom line is that long-range fighting is her defining trait, but with how it is currently depicted I don't like what it does to her character, or lack thereof, and no amount of sniping is going to change that. I may change my mind in the future, but it will really depend on how she is portrayed rather than her choice of weapons.
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@Seafarer33
Dude, this is APF. When somebody literally says something, then going by my experience in this forum I will have to take it at face value. Also context is important here. In a different situation it would be easier to comprehend that it might not be to taken literal. But in within a frame where we discuss that those superhuman feats function similarly albeit being different types of feats your statement is a very poor choice of words.Anything else you said I don't really disagree with. We don't see as much of her as we see of other characters. But that's a whole discussion altogether. However that's not the first time in Shonen manga that the protagonists goal/idol character gets introduced at the beginning and then doesn't get much focus until much later. We don't have to look further than Red Haired Plot Device in One Piece.
The thing that makes it stand out negatively in Monster 8 is, that the distance between the protagonist and goal/idol character is not a proximity based but skill based instead. For Shanks or Ging the lack of focus is them being somewhere out there in the world. Mina however is right there. But we don't see much of her. I can understand how can throw you off. You would have to look past the difference in proximity and skill to see it as other shonen stories. And that I would say is neither easy nor the readers responsibility. The author has to find a better way to this problem.
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Here comes the big guns. See y'all next year.
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Nice that we get in the thick of things so soon after the warm-up ^^
Following up on last week's discussion with Ivotas, the expository bit about shooting the giant cannon is precisely what I was after : something to tell us Mina is not just any old sniper. It wouldn't have hurt to hear about it sooner, but it may also have ruined the surprise. I guess it's one of those cases where reading in volume format will vanish the issue entirely since both the action and explanation are back to back.
No giant monsters this time, though, so commander Sharpshoot may have to finally join the fray in person (provided she doesn't stay idle. Fingers crossed)
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Well hey, they actually explained it. It's like they heard us arguing.
#9 is really good at distractions. Maybe because they're distractions you can't ignore.
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@Seafarer33 said in Monster 8:
Nice that we get in the thick of things so soon after the warm-up ^^
Following up on last week's discussion with Ivotas, the expository bit about shooting the giant cannon is precisely what I was after : something to tell us Mina is not just any old sniper. It wouldn't have hurt to hear about it sooner, but it may also have ruined the surprise. I guess it's one of those cases where reading in volume format will vanish the issue entirely since both the action and explanation are back to back.
Don't want to come across like a smartass prick but this really is simply a matter of basic reading comprehension. If the entire premise of those strong guys is that it requires skill and strenght to sync up with their suits/weapons and the higher percentage the sync rate is, the more effective they are in a fight, then it's clear that skill matters. That's what I've been saying before we even started the argument. Just read my post from 12 days ago. It's not like this chapter revealed something that we couldn't have figured out by using common sense. They only revealed the specifics.
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I come here to post about the new anime officially getting announced and I'm met with the "not to be a smartass prick" line which usually indicates something. Don't be condescending please.
Countdown at https://kaiju-no8.net/
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Pv looking nice. Release set for 2024.
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Nice art:
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1015153@pariston_hill said in Monster 8:
Pv looking nice. Release set for 2024.
Sweeeet. And 2024 means they'll have even more story to animate.
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Back in action
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I vote #15 for creepiest. (and why did it go back to high-school girl in the middle?)
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Mind games most likely.
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A rather gloomy chapter.
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Ouch.
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1015499Also would like to know why #15 is so fixated on her.
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She was made to copy her, my guess is that She probably has Isaoβs memories or something.
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It's hard to live up to your parent sometimes:
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1015553