@Huschel:
Thank you. I was so surprised that nobody was really judging me for using the gun. I very much expected having to defend myself throughout the whole Day.
I have a bad habit of entertaining opposing possibilities, but I think I usually try to end with what my actual stance is. Anything in particular that you're referring to?
My reasons for shooting Sky are what they are. I suppose I could add that I was handed a gun and I wanted to use it. Because it's fun.
I have honestly reread the whole thread twice, and I don't really have the energy or the motivation to do it once more to find any particular posts :/ But, I will give you some examples:
Day 1, main topic is Lynch vs No Lynch. Let's see what your stance is??
@Huschel:
@No-lynching: No one asked, but here's my stance. There's two reasons I was advocating a lynch on Day 1
- I was actually close to agreeing with others that a Day 1 lynch would be rather random and not all that helpful. But I was afraid that saying as much would lead to Town just waiting for the day to end because there's 'nothing' to go on. I am very happy with the amount of discussion that we've had.
- I didn't run the numbers and basically just figured that if a no lynch is beneficial numbers-wise right now, then it will be just as beneficial on another day. I did ignore the fact that we will have more to go on on that other day.
- Yes, there's three now, I lied! It's been mentioned, but it bears repeating: inactive Townies drag us down and the game becomes less enjoyable.
So yeah, at this point I'm fine with no-lynching. Unvote (and I forgot about the holiday, by the way. Well excused, fox :P)
Just look at the amount of opinions there are in this post. Almost every POV is covered, and than you subtly went with the popular opinion at that point. That's not YOUR stance, that is touching on every stance, and then choosing what's popular. I also didn't see you really advocating for a lynch as you claimed (maybe I missed it) Not to mention two posts down, you acknowledged another opinion:
@Huschel:
This is a true fact. We are bad at it. But it's the weapon we have. We can't rely on powers that may help us out, we have to engage with each other during the day phase. I'd still like for you to be more actively active. I get the impression that you mostly responded to other people's questions and statements.
Day 2, main topic is whether to lynch Kitsune Inferno or not. Again, you are of the opinion that…
@Huschel:
I was on board with lynching Kitsune today because I am very doubtful about the claim. But it has been pointed out that he supposedly got shot and is already bleeding out. So if he's still alive tomorrow he may find a way to wiggle himself out of that predicament/the mafia will have already overtaken Town in spirit, we lynch him then. On the other hand, can't lose a Townie to bleeding out if we kill him first.
So… yes, but no, but yes?
@Huschel:
I think I also want to lynch Kitsune today. I don't see the point in waiting for something that may or may not happen when I find his claim/role very convoluted.
To be clear myself, I am targeting Kitsune because I don't believe the claim. We don't know where Jabs got the gun from. It also makes absolutely no sense to me that Kitsune rolled a 1 last Night and did not immediately choose it at Day break when he now knows what the numbers do for him.
I do find it disconcerting that kmo also wants to lynch KI. I seem to have a weird blindspot for him in this game and I should (re)evaluate how I feel about him. If kmo is mafia, he might also be going after KI as a potential 3rd party.
As far as I can tell, Kitsune only has one vote on him right now (out of 4 needed to lynch), so I'll put him at L-2.
Vote Lynch: Kitsune Inferno
So, okay lynch!
@Huschel:
I am not 100% sold on lynching you. But I can't just ignore what I feel are inconsistencies/weak role claims.
I will try to re-evaluate my stance on you, kmo and Foolio before the Day is over. Unfortunately, when I'll have time to do that, most people won't be around until close to day end. As a heads-up/warning, I guess.
Maybe not?
@Huschel:
… The reason I named you, kmo and Foolio specifically is because I do feel like I may have been basing my thoughts on unfounded first impressions/hunches concerning you three.
So, now there is an equivalency between me, Foolio and Kitsune Inferno?
Honestly, almost every stance you have taken, you have somehow, somewhere taken an opposite stance, or given yourself wiggle room in case you get called on it. You have done so on Hypo-cop stance I think, I may have misremembered that, so if someone can look it up… (pretty please)?
Then there is your stance on Sky:
@Huschel:
Sky was a perfectly valid wagon yeesterday. I have no idea why Jabber did not claim his role when he had the chance in the middle of the Day.
@Huschel:
Because now there's bigger fish to fry. Kitsune and you right now, it seems. Sky hasn't given me enough to value her flip over more active people, I guess.
@Huschel:
Nothing shocking, I'd wager. I wish they'd be around more. I have gotten neither Town nor Mafia vibes from either. I will try to form a better opinion about them soon as well. The reason I named you, kmo and Foolio specifically is because I do feel like I may have been basing my thoughts on unfounded first impressions/hunches concerning you three.
Again, all over the place, and then there is this:
@Huschel:
It seems like the answer to the this question in this particular game is always 'It is you!!!' I have been surprised by some of your voting decisions. And you just answered my question to KI's about choosing the number himself. You would have crucified other people for that. Is the answer obvious? Maybe. Then Kitsune should have had the foresight to mention it in his intitial explanation. It seems to me that he is making it all up as he goes trying to make it fit within a framework built by the small pieces of information we have.
What voting decisions? This actually got me royally pissed at Foolio because they ignored it (even after my prompting). I was actually in the middle of writing a VERY snippy post when Kitsune Inferno hammered himself, and I am kinda thankful to him, because I would have regretted it.
So, no. I didn't get the impression that we (me and you, as you claimed) were on the same page at all. I also didn't get the impression that you would be particularly aiming for Sky, even though you left hints here and there, but you also took opposite views, and then NO VIEWS at all!! I would have really liked and hoped that you would have made the usage of the gun a town decision, I don't agree that you were a prime target for mafia (I think myself, Foolio, or Kirby would have ranked higher).
There is a lot more I think I could add, but let's start with this.
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Also, I feel that aiming for Sky (and hoping to live among the stars... something very poetic here...) was a very burdened decision at this point in the game, that shouldn't have been left to any particular person. This is a gross violation of the town's trust, and for someone who didn't put himself up for any kind of secrutiny or risk, it was not a decision to make. You jumped the gun (ha...) and I don't think you can claim ignorance on the matter. The decision makes perfect sense if you are mafia. It makes zero sense if you are town.
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@kmohyudin:
What voting decisions? This actually got me royally pissed at Foolio because they ignored it (even after my prompting). I was actually in the middle of writing a VERY snippy post when Kitsune Inferno hammered himself, and I am kinda thankful to him, because I would have regretted it.
[hide]Since I have touched on this, I think I should explain. I was kinda hurt that when Foolio went after Kirby, even voted for them and then I added my own questions to the accusation, and Kirby responded to all of them. Rather than evaluating and pushing Kirby, as should be done, Foolio instead chose to ignore all that, and focus on my speculation on even day jester. I get that Foolio was frustrated at wild speculations, and wanted to focus the town on scumhunt, but its not like I ignored it. I did what I thought was needed. I hated the fact that Foolio basically resigned (said they had zero motivation, felt like dead weight etc).
I mean look at it from my POV. I already felt really bad on the whole Jabberwok affair. I got really a really pissy post from Kitsune Inferno (who later apologized) but wherein he did say that I was the reason people are choosing not to post. And then this. Honestly, I joined this game because I really had a nostalgic love for Mafia, but so far it felt like my inclusion had been detrimental to the fun everyone should be having.
Anyway, that was the gist of it, and it's not like I am feeling bad anymore. I just wanted to clarify my position so that we can move on.[/hide]
