it's in the latest update of enels wiki entry:
In a recent SBS, Oda confirmed that if Lucci and Eneru were to fight, Lucci would narrowly manage to win.
greg posted kind of an overview in the vol.43 disussion but he mentioned only enels bounty, nothing about enel vs. lucci.anyway, greg should know if it's in there.I'll PM him about that right now.
Re: vol. 43 sbs
No, he said nothing of the sort.
Nothing nu, i post this just because i said i would.
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Haha Wikipedia editors. What a bunch of buffoons.
I thought that looked fishy.
ehâŠi always thought Logias had an inherrent ability to go 'element form' whenever a physical attack is made against them. Not like they needed to concentrate for it or anything.
In which case, without a Seastone, there is simply no way Lucci is even going to touch Enel. Barring the huge plot device of "nobody dies in OP" Enel was literally a god as far as his powers go.
Oda secretely told me, in fact it's calipha >>>> eneru!!!!11111
She'd go after enel in her tight dominatrix rubbersuit and literally wipe up the floor with him.
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Enel is literally undefeatable, which is why he made a poor villian. Lucci would be able to take a few of Enel's bolts, but only a few more than anybody else could, at best.
Why would Lucci be able to take lightning bolts better than anyone else? Enel would destroy Lucci. Easily.
Advent of thunder > Enies Lobby
Wikipedia: Getting it wright for as lung as we can rmumber.
I think Usopp is a bit grumpy with Luffy but he'll get over it.
^This pathetic post was made by Pants-eater to avoid getting off-topic.
Ah, things are looking up for Ussop. After the Enies Lobby arc, what does everyone think of him now? I see a bright future where, with the role of shipwright filled, Ussop will fall into his role as a sniper, i.e. more fighting along with Ussop getting stronger.
After all, he's struggled with weakness and helplessness this arc, so if he rejoins the crew as a sniper, then it's obvious that he'll at least upgrade his ammo. That's far from a stretch, in facts it's almost guaranteed.
Water 7 might end up beingâŠwhat Skypiea was to Sanji. Sanji got cheated of a real fight throughout the arc, but at least got to display his strength of character. Ussop has had that here, and if this pattern is repeated then--depending on the nature of the next arc--a good fight might be coming our way.
Yeah, I'm saying that we should wait another arc for Ussop to get his precious, precious fight. After all, not every crewmember can fight in each arc...Zoro needs to get a new sword for instance.
he still has bad breath
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They were splashing in the bath tub all the time.Merry is equipped with luxurious 20th century style bathrooms, after all^^
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Well, I moved here at the mods behest of the mods, so here's my argument.
Also, let me point out that, I'm actually not a big Ussop fan, despite my sig. I just think he's getting a bum wrap.
And in the end, what Ussop's done wasn't so bad. That sniping sceneâŠwas actually pretty good--it had substance. It solidified his role as a sniper, with Ussop shooting several marines in the face from an incredible distance with a slingshot while the marines with guns couldn't even reach him.
That sniping scene could potentially be Ussop's first major battle as a full sniper. Like I keep saying, things are looking up for Ussop--with a new shipwright Ussop will have to stick to sniping, which means more fighting for Ussop. Ussop's fought with weakness and helplessness in this arc, and had felt the power of several strong fighters. If he wants to forfil his dream of being a brave warrior, he needs to get stronger.
Plus, one could say that without Ussop, the Going Merry wouldn't have come back, hence the entire crew would be dead without Ussop. In fact, they'd be dead several times over without Ussop, just as the crew would be dead without the efforts of each member. They're a team here everybody, beating a CP9 would be worthless if Ussop didn't deliver the keys and snipe those marines, just as Ussop sniping would be worthless if the other SHs didn't beat the CP9.
If everything didn't happen a certain way, the crew would be screwed. If fact, the "handcuff" scene that Ussop often gets put down about. Say Ussop wasn't there...wouldn't that leave Zoro fighting both Kaku and Jyabura alone? Kaku broke that floor unprovoked after all, and Jyabura would have still been sleeping there. In a way, that stupid act between the two (mostly Ussop, admittedly) may have ultimately save Zoro's life...or not. Who's to say, it's all up to chance--chance that's pre-written.
Oh yeah, and the arc isn't over yet. We still have the Ussop and Luffy "make-up scene." While it may not have fighting, it could possibly have something that redeems Ussop a little.
Oh yeah, and the arc isn't over yet. We still have the Ussop and Luffy "make-up scene." While it may not have fighting, it could possibly have something that redeems Ussop a little.
Are you kidding me? I'm hoping for a rematch between them. Usopp was still yelling at Luffy. Especially with Merry back, the whole ship argument between them is still going to come.
Merry could say goodbye after this fight, then everything gets emotional, it is very sad⊠but it will show Luffy fighting with gears and the sudden secret of Kabuto. Maybe now if Usopp is less wangst he could use his head in a decent fight. Sure Luffy will still own but it'll be worth it.
Wow, i wonder what kinds of sparks are gonna occur with this post.
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Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what heâs lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
@ultimateclima:
.. but it will show Luffy fighting with gears and the sudden secret of Kabuto.
kabuto doesn't do anything you haven't already seen.
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kabuto doesn't do anything you haven't already seen.
âŠuntil the next arc.:ninja:
Seriously man, if Usopp says that Kabuto has a secret (and he already said it had dials) then it must have, even if it gamebreaking or whatever. "It exists" is what I say.
Seriously, what's with all the "give up hope" responses when talking about Usopp? I don' t see the harm in speculating about that crap.
Ussop has already rejoined the crew.
Seriously man, if Usopp says that Kabuto has a secret (and he already said it had dials) then it must have, even if it gamebreaking or whatever. "It exists" is what I say.
it has a secret but we've already seen it's effect->accurately hitting targets over very large distances.
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it has a secret but we've already seen it's effect->accurately hitting targets over very large distances.
Sure why not. Still though, let's not be surprised if the alleged "secret"âŠsurprises us. There's enough room for Usopp to have been talking about something else.
Hell, come to think of it Kabuto's secret could be just some obsecure and irrelevant put in it's design, since he mentioned it while in "conversation." Whatever, it'll be interesting if it happens is what I'm saying.
@ultimateclima:
Are you kidding me? I'm hoping for a rematch between them.
NO.
That would be completely ridiculous. It was clear that both of them hated fighting each other and regretted it, why would they do it again?
Cause it would be fun.
And no holding back this time, Luffy in Gear 2nd and Usopp⊠Yeah, Usopp shoots 5 exploding stars at once now!!!
Says the guy sick of seeing Usopp get his ass kicked repeatedly 
I changed my mind, put on a full latex body suit and started waving around a whip reading the manga like every good sadist should do since apparently it's the appeal of the Usopp character.
I prefer leatherâŠ.and chains.
I knew it, you naughty girl, you.
I like it when Usopp hits things with his ammo. happy
it has a secret but we've already seen it's effect->accurately hitting targets over very large distances.
Yeah, thank you. I was assumed he was just bragging about the thing he did minutes earlier and/or providing some explanation to Zoro and Sanji (despise their total lack of interest). Talking about something spectacular "that jutsu" style would seem totally random at the time.
Yeah, thank you. I was assumed he was just bragging about the thing he did minutes earlier and/or providing some explanation to Zoro and Sanji (despise their total lack of interest). Talking about something spectacular "that jutsu" style would seem totally random at the time.
Exactly. You do something incredible and then you tell youre friends how you did it/what your secret is.
for those who were still waiting for kabutos secret to be revealed and kill some BC ships or whatever, usopps sniping just wasn't good enough.
âŠit should have been obvious though that kabuto's reach was the special feature -> Since when does a slingshot have a longer reach than a gun^^?
but taking usopps modification skills in mind it's likely he will get in front on several occasions in the future declaring:"I must use that jutsu!" everytime showing up his newest ammo or kabuto enhancement^^.
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Maybe, but I would have thought that it's "longer range" was a feature of having it's dial-powersâwhich he mentioned eariler in front of everyone, hell, even the CP9 .
Maybe this "secret" could be something more specfic then, like the longer he holds back the sling the more jet dials (or something) "charge up" the ammo letting it go a longer distance.
Again, no big deal, but it'd be interesting to see Kabuto do something more--as it would be interesting to see...anything do something more unexpectedly. Still, it is or was fair game to think something like that...since Gear 2 was pretty much foreshadowed in the same way.
On another subject, when Luffy and Usopp reconcile I'm hoping it something cool instead or tearing or yelling then forgving each other or some crap like that. Hell, another fighting scene would actaully be better then seeing both Luffy and Usopp crying, with Chopper and maybe Nami crying in the background. They need something to prove that they've grown.
Maybe, but I would have thought that it's "longer range" was a feature of having it's dial-powersâwhich he mentioned eariler in front of everyone,
I didn't know that, when did he mention it? Now i wanna know the secret myself^^
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I imagine Usopp cultivating his Xtreme running speed and pairing it with his accuracy. Strength and defence is good so accuracy and speed is also good.
Usopp vs. Uryu Ishida. cough cough
Well, he did take on Enies Lobby along with the rest of the crew, and he did publicly state that he didn't give a rat's ass about the WG, (he didn't say it but he performed the one action that said it, and that was burning down the flag.)
I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes revered as some sort of god over in Elbaf.
Holy hole in a doughnut, Batman!
I see Usopp's role in the Straw Hat Crew as a low-budget Batman in the Justice League.
He's a normal guy part of a crew of superheroes, although Batman can hold his own while Usopp is largely comic-relief most of the time.
I don't understand the huge controversy behind his character on this forum. Those who say they are Usopp-fans want him to do something spectacularly outragous that saves the day when the crew seems likely to be wiped out.
I like the Usopp character BECAUSE he never has and never will do anything like that. And that is probably why anybody took a liking to him in the first place. He's a normal person in a crew of supermen, therefore the character appeals to me on another level than the rest of the crew. He DOES have some powers, but they pale in comparism to what his nakama can do.
I think he's the most complex of the characters on the crew. He's really weak and can't hold his own, and he knows it. His dream is to be a brave warrior of the sea, but he doubts he will ever manage that. He hides behind his lies to conceal his own insecurity, and has done that all his life. His pent-up frustration of being inadequate for his entire life finally resulted in him leaving the crew and obsessing over the ship. That's his biggest lie so far, he doesn't care more about the ship than his nakama. Proof: In Upper Yard, Shura attacked Merry and Chopper, resulting in the mast being destroyed. Usopp said something along the line of "don't worry, as long as you're okay" to Chopper.
I compare it to a child running away from home after quarreling with his parents. The child doesn't really want to leave, but he wants his parents to miss him and realise how much he means to them. I'm not saying that Usopp's a child, but think about it: he's in the middle of the Grand Line with nowhere else to go. Leaving the crew was his way of dealing with his emotional issues of feeling inadequate, fearing he may never complete his dream, angry at himself for not being able to protect the money, angry at the others for being so much stronger than him and angry because Going Merry couldn't be fixed.
It takes a brave man to accept an inconvenient truth. That's the kind of courage Usopp needs, not doing crazy stuff like sinking Buster Call ships or beating CP9. He needs to accept the truth that even though he will never be a superman like his nakama, even though he couldn't save Merry or the gold, even though he's useless in battle against powerful enemies, even though he will never face death or injury bravely, he's a vital part of the crew nevertheless. Then he will be a brave warrior of the sea.
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âŠand he did publicly state that he didn't give a rat's ass about the WG, (he didn't say it but he performed the one action that said it, and that was burning down the flag.)
He was just afraid luffy would kick his ass if he didn't obey and shoot the flag ;-)
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No, he hasn't.
Besides who wants him to become braver when brave characters are lame.
**Of course he's gotten braver.
Usopp is the most courageous out of the SH. He actually has to put aside his fear (whiich is bigger than the other SH's) to be able to do anyting. That true courage.**
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Hey, no fair. I insist. 
I won't get offended, I promise. 
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Hey, no fair. I insist.
I won't get offended, I promise.
You didn't just say thatâŠ.right?
@Octogon:
You didn't just say thatâŠ.right?
Did I stutter? 
Sticks and stones, you know. 
Basically, if somebody thinks my posts are stupid, I genuinely want to know. It's nice to have one's opinions challenged, because it helps you think them over. And even change them, in case they actually are stupid.
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I believe I just did.
Sticks and stones, you know.
Basically, if somebody thinks my posts are stupid, I genuinely want to know. It's nice to have one's opinions challenged, because it helps you think them over. And even change them, in case they actually are stupid.
I would usually agree. However, this is Aldrich and Usopp.
who gives a sh1t if ussop got braverâŠthe real question is...when will Ussop fanboys stop living vicariously through a manga character and step out into the real world and grow balls of their own.
I don't understand the huge controversy behind his character on this forum. Those who say they are Usopp-fans want him to do something spectacularly outragous that saves the day when the crew seems likely to be wiped out.
I like the Usopp character BECAUSE he never has and never will do anything like that.
Spandam. Robin. Bridge of Hesitation. KABOOOOM!!!! See the power of the Strawhat's Sniper <3
Or as Sanji said: "I will do what you can't do, while you will do what I can't do. Think carefully. Read the situation. As long as you are here, we can save Robin-chan! Usopp!"
No matter how strong one might be, each of them has their own, essential role XD No matter who you chose, if one of the Strawhats was missing, they would all have died often enough XD
@Octogon:
I would usually agree. However, this is Aldrich and Usopp.
Yeah, I'm aware that he has a mild dislike for the Usopp character. :ninja:
I like Usopp, but I'm not such a person that feels the need to defend Usopp with my life either. So it won't be a problem.
Usopp reminds me of Kururin in many aspects. They're normal guys in a league full of supermen. Of course, DBZ left a lotta characters behind, but Kururin was Goku's best friend from the start of DB to the end of DBZ. Yet, he was never very strong. His peak was around the middle of the Frieza Saga, before Frieza actually fought. After that, he declined, down to the Android Saga, which was the last we saw of him (as a fighter). After that, he became a background character.
Usopp is moral support for the Strawhats. In a Shonen Manga, that's kind of useless (As Aldrich will probably point out and certain other person will give a smug reply about). Yet, he did encourage Robin to get back with the Mugiwara, he did some great sniping jobs on occassion, and he did stand up for Luffy in the Mr. 4 / Merry Christmas fight after taking a 4 ton bat to the face.
I just hope that during his Van Auger fight, he totally owns it and changes everyone's opinion. Until then, everyone will hate Usopp.
@latchkeykid:
the real question isâŠwhen will Ussop fanboys stop living vicariously through a manga character and step out into the real world and grow balls of their own.
Hey, I find that slightly offensive. shoots a tabasco star and runs away to tell a mod
