Yeah, that was much better than last week. Tense, dramatic, good character stuff. Hope we get more of this writer.
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Matheison has been my favorite writer brought on since season 8. Good stuff, I hope it's not the last we see from him.
Got spoiled on the thing that happened a long time ago, but I don't know what's going to happen with it now.
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I really like the episode on the emotional part. Not the biggest fan of Nardole but Bill his and I really appreciate the relationship between him and the doctor. The ending is an intersting take on the doctor and I hope it will stick for a couple of episodes(or give us one great one).
! Considering we see him have a regeneration scene in the trailer for this seasonI wouldn't be surprise they pull a Tennant and have him regain his eyesight when he absolutely needs it.
! Didn't the 11th call that vanity issues? I doubt they would go that route again. Or at least I hope they would not. The universe surely have other magical cure.
On "time of the doctor" did the war just end?
! The problem was suppose that the planet would be blown up as soon as the doctor left so that they would avoid universal war. So once he became the 12th and left did the planet continued to get protected forever?
! I have a hard time with the idea that they just give up since the time wars should be known in pretty much all of time and the urgency should exist on all time.I think day of the doctor was pretty great but I did not really like the resolution.
! I think the doctor having actually use the moment and spend 2.5 generations facing the trauma of such decision was a pretty good idea. It proves how far the doctor will go to protect others and his ability to make the hard decision. But at same time give him an appropriate reaction to what happened.
! If Gallifrey had to come back they could have froze themselves once they knew what the doctor was about to do.
! I was reminded of it because of the moment where Bill ask the doctor how many he killed and watched die. I think the moment would have been more powerful had he used.Last thing I think I prefer the doctor when he is respected rather than just considered a unbeatable superstar of the universe. By that I mean I am fine when an enemy accept to negociate with him due to how much he has done or give him some leeway. I am not fine with them running tails between their legs simply because it is the doctor and somehow the universe have decided he is untouchable. I think that really troubled me on how the doctor at the end of season 9 and drinking his soup.
I like this season tho.
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Billie Piper and David Tennant just confirmed for a new Big Finish audio series!
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Blech. Tennant had other companions, announce one of them. Rose is an automatic disinterested from me.
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Blech. Tennant had other companions, announce one of them. Rose is an automatic disinterested from me.
You know he did a series with Catherine Tate first, already? I mean sheesh, I am not fond of Rose either, but I know a lot of people will be happy about this so I'm happy for them. Plus, Big Finish has a gift for making the WORST companions cool.
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Yes. And he should do more with Donna. Or Martha. Or Jack. Or a new person created for the audios.
Cause Rose is awful.
Billie Piper is fine. But Rose is awful.
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I've always felt Martha was underappreciated. If nothing else, I can't picture Rose, Donna, or Amy surviving a world created by the Master for a year as one gigantic bluff.
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@Mr.:
Sometimes I wonder if Doctor Who would do better under a different network. Now, I know that'll never happen since the BBC's got a tight grip (plus they'd be insane to give up a show with such a history and popularity right now), and quite a few people like that it's British aspect, but it'd be nice to see Doctor Who with a bigger budget, and not to be triffled with stupid scheduling. What exactly was their reasoning for the 2016 dry spell?
Be kinda neat to see how the likes of a Netflix studio could handle some seasons of Doctor Who… but again, probably will never happen.The Olympics was on last year that's why. The BBC exclusively broadcast it in the UK….that was one of the reasons for it...
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Martha's fine. RTD made a big mistake by having her fall for the doctor, but away from those scenes she was a great companion.
I think day of the doctor was pretty great but I did not really like the resolution.
! I think the doctor having actually use the moment and spend 2.5 generations facing the trauma of such decision was a pretty good idea. It proves how far the doctor will go to protect others and his ability to make the hard decision. But at same time give him an appropriate reaction to what happened.
! If Gallifrey had to come back they could have froze themselves once they knew what the doctor was about to do.
! I was reminded of it because of the moment where Bill ask the doctor how many he killed and watched die. I think the moment would have been more powerful had he used.! I think Day of the Doctor is probably my least favourite moff episode ever. Per "The End of Time", the reason the Doctor used the moment was to stop Rassilon from breaking the deadlock by annihilating everything in the universe except the time lords. Moffat ignored that and rewrote it to make it just a provincial timelord/dalek war over gallifrey. The scope of the Doctor's decision to use the moment was completely changed and it removed a lot of the potential emotional weight of the episode. Very disappointing.
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The Olympics was on last year that's why. The BBC exclusively broadcast it in the UK….that was one of the reasons for it...
They likely also didn't want to deal with yet another Fall series, but wouldn't have had anywhere near enough time to get ready in time for spring 2016. Considering how smoothly S10 has run so far, I honestly don't think I can blame them for making that choice. It sucks we had to wait for so long, but I think this is ultimately much preferable to the chaotic mess that was S9's scheduling.
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! Yeah, I think we all knew that Missy was in the vault (unless there's another twist coming, which is very possible)
! Also, I don't mind either way, but it's interesting that they're continuing this plotline into the next episode. They could just as well have left it alone and let us all make up our own scenario for how the Doctor saved the world. -
Very interesting episode…not sure what's going to happen next. Did anticipate what was in the vault, but I think there's a lot more to the situation. One thing that would piss me off...
! If they somehow tried to make it that everything that's been going on in the show for some time isn't real…
Also! I laughed pretty hard when the Pope walked in on Pearl's date
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! Well…that took an interesting turn. I think this will be the first three-parter we've had in a while (heck, who knows, maybe this storyline will run through the end of the season)
! Though I'm not sure how the Monks magically made the Doctor able to see again.
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I think this was by far the worst written episode of this series. Just some really silly, excessively contrived scenes.
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All this convolution and jumping to conclusions to find the germ outbreak when that stupid scientist could have just fucking called for help. Also the great doctor is too stupid to move three steps in front of him to find a switch. I think the cherry on the cake was:
"You are afraid, that is not consent"
"You are doing it out of strategy, that is not consent."
"You are doing it for love, that is consent"
But…she's clearly afraid and doing it as part of a strategy so....oh fuck it.
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I think this was by far the worst written episode of this series. Just some really silly, excessively contrived scenes.
My thoughts exactly. I almost felt like I wasted a hour when I was done watching.
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I didn't find the episode to be terrible, I actually thought the conflict and its set-up kinda fun, and I like how the handled the cold open (mixing between the "previously" and "now" scenes), but I do agree there was lazy writing going on. Characters making some dumb choices to cause further problems for the story (hungover scientist, as a prime example).
Very interesting episode…not sure what's going to happen next. Did anticipate what was in the vault, but I think there's a lot more to the situation. One thing that would piss me off...
! If they somehow tried to make it that everything that's been going on in the show for some time isn't real…
I think it's safe to say that
! pretty much everything seen in that episode was part of the simulation, while the previous episodes were in real life. But you could make an argument that the simulation ran the exact same adventures too, so… yay ambiguity? It was a neat twist, either way.
@TLC:
Also the great doctor is too stupid to move three steps in front of him to find a switch.
Hold up, which scene was this?
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Why are his goggles so damn bad? I mean he could defiantly build something a bit more useful. Don't we already have the tech to do it better?
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Why are his goggles so damn bad? I mean he could defiantly build something a bit more useful. Don't we already have the tech to do it better?
Because if they were any better there'd be no point in blinding him in the first place.
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Because if they were any better there'd be no point in blinding him in the first place.
i know but it's still somehow stupid
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Why are his goggles so damn bad? I mean he could defiantly build something a bit more useful. Don't we already have the tech to do it better?
Well they are sonic sunglasses, I'm guessing it can only let him see with sonar like bats.
Also yeah from a storytelling perspective there's no point blinding him then giving him glasses that restore his sight immediately
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I enjoyed the last part of this episode although I have something that bothers me
! Why does the doctor cares of his death at that point. All that would happen is him regerating. Tennant's doctor was basically in love with himself and that's why he had so many problem with letting go(vanity years) but this one doesn't seem to suffer from that. So while I'm sure he doesn't like dying I found it weird to have the earth freedom gone because of the doctor dying. It can work in smaller scale but in this one it really bothered me.
! The whole president of earth is pretty silly when the story is more grounded politically. I thought it would maybe be used to supersede the power of the generals that wanted to give up but nope.
! That whole consent thing would have work better without all the useless death and silly fear and strategy are not consent. Billy's plead is emotional and is giving proper weight with her sacrificing the earth(trusting the doctor to get it back) but the whole consent talk is just super distracting.
! Billy getting pussybloacked by the UN similarly the pope in the simulation is pretty hilarious. I guess it really isn't in the cards for her! I think Day of the Doctor is probably my least favourite moff episode ever. Per "The End of Time", the reason the Doctor used the moment was to stop Rassilon from breaking the deadlock by annihilating everything in the universe except the time lords. Moffat ignored that and rewrote it to make it just a provincial timelord/dalek war over gallifrey. The scope of the Doctor's decision to use the moment was completely changed and it removed a lot of the potential emotional weight of the episode. Very disappointing.
! The worst is really a strong position. Interaction wise I believe it was pretty good. I think scale could have worked fine with a couple of shots an reference to how in some other centuries the battle is still raging. Or making it more vague. Although the whole shoot themselves was cartoonily convenient.
! The thing that really bothers me is making the doctor trauma a result of amnesia. You can easily bring Gallifrey back without doing something like that. It annoys me because anytime we have the doctor remember the hard choice he made and the many lives he saw lost I get reminded that they rewrote this one after he spent 2 generation moving pass it.
! At worst have the eleven work with Rasillion or the other council so that they disappeared just before the eight use the moment. That way the eight did make the decision and not everything is lost. Although it is still a waste. The timelords are a race at the pinacle of evolution and the daleks are a close second would it really be to much that they managed to escape genocide by the doctor by making a huge sacrifice on their part? Sometimes I really get the impression the doctor is just made be an infaillible god rather than the cunning doctor. And taking that moment from the doctor history is just awful. -
I enjoyed the last part of this episode although I have something that bothers me
! Why does the doctor cares of his death at that point. All that would happen is him regerating. Tennant's doctor was basically in love with himself and that's why he had so many problem with letting go(vanity years) but this one doesn't seem to suffer from that. So while I'm sure he doesn't like dying I found it weird to have the earth freedom gone because of the doctor dying. It can work in smaller scale but in this one it really bothered me.
! The Doctor was about to be incinerated by a bomb. He can recover/regenerate from a lot of things, but I think it's safe to say that anything that would do horribly extensive damage to his body like that would kill him for good.
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Brilliant, rollercoaster of an episode.
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! The worst is really a strong position. Interaction wise I believe it was pretty good. I think scale could have worked fine with a couple of shots an reference to how in some other centuries the battle is still raging. Or making it more vague. Although the whole shoot themselves was cartoonily convenient.
! The thing that really bothers me is making the doctor trauma a result of amnesia. You can easily bring Gallifrey back without doing something like that. It annoys me because anytime we have the doctor remember the hard choice he made and the many lives he saw lost I get reminded that they rewrote this one after he spent 2 generation moving pass it.
! At worst have the eleven work with Rasillion or the other council so that they disappeared just before the eight use the moment. That way the eight did make the decision and not everything is lost. Although it is still a waste. The timelords are a race at the pinacle of evolution and the daleks are a close second would it really be to much that they managed to escape genocide by the doctor by making a huge sacrifice on their part? Sometimes I really get the impression the doctor is just made be an infaillible god rather than the cunning doctor. And taking that moment from the doctor history is just awful.I don't think that aspect of DotD cheapened Doctor Who by any means.
! It wasn't really a result of amnesia. He still remembers that he caused the genocide at the end of the war (10 even said something along the lines of "I've seen everyone go down in flames, and I don't want to see it again"). So the trauma he felt when he was 9-11 was genuine, until the events of DotD. So it's more that history was rewritten, rather than "this is how it was all along".
! I also saw it more as a moment of growth for the Doctor, where he decided to fancy the idea of "well, what if I did go down this horrible route?", which ended up affecting him more than he ever thought. So it makes sense that he'd jump at the chance to undo that decision if he could. -
Brilliant, rollercoaster of an episode.
Yeah no
! when your previews show the Doctor is under the Monks' control and you wave it off within the first 5-10 minutes you lose me. I would have loved to see Bill ( because of her actions) and Nardole actually face the Doctor (who is an agent of the Monks) before saving him, even having Nardole use the nuclear option of taking Bill to Missy and asking for help to save their friend. Plus you can build up Missy's arc where as before she would relish in the Doctor doing evil shit not wanting to see her friend fall down the road she was on and is now (supposedly) trying to get off.
! And then you basically repeat the ending from Last of the Time Lords, which IMO was a better episode overall than this one. And this is coming from someone who thought Last of the Time Lords was the worst season finale out of NuWho so far. -
Remember that he did say that he wasn't really sure what would happen with regenerations now since he was gifted by the Time Lords - it wasn't really specified what they were giving him, for all he knows, it could be one regeneration or limitless.
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Newest ep. was underwhelming, I felt.
! The first 5 minutes felt like they were just doing it to create some hype with Capaldi's regeneration. I think I would've been fine if it was drawn out a bit longer, and he didn't use the regeneration energy for added effect, especially since we knew he wasn't really going to go through with it.
And after the monks' defeat, they just… up and left. Not a very thorough ending. Can't think of much that would stop the monks from coming back in a couple hundred years or so and having another go at it.
! But hey, Doc and Missy were great for the short time we had them. More Capaldi and Gomez plz plz plzI'm excited for next week's, due to Ice Warriors… but it's a Gatiss episode, and I haven't really been wowed by any of his DW stuff yet, so :/
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I would have like to see what it looks like for others to save the world.
! With the time that is spent with the doctor supposedly being corrupted I imagined either they would get a new doctor thaat would disappeared due to monks rewritting or Nardole and Bill would do the heavy lifting with Missy. So the episode we got instead was a letdown. Plus I have a real trouble with those moment that give credence to the doctor being near perfect.
! The monks are a funny kind. They can take care of missiles and strip navy from miles away but bullets are a no-go for them@Mr.:
I don't think that aspect of DotD cheapened Doctor Who by any means.
! It wasn't really a result of amnesia. He still remembers that he caused the genocide at the end of the war (10 even said something along the lines of "I've seen everyone go down in flames, and I don't want to see it again"). So the trauma he felt when he was 9-11 was genuine, until the events of DotD. So it's more that history was rewritten, rather than "this is how it was all along".
! I also saw it more as a moment of growth for the Doctor, where he decided to fancy the idea of "well, what if I did go down this horrible route?", which ended up affecting him more than he ever thought. So it makes sense that he'd jump at the chance to undo that decision if he could.! It was explained that because of interacting with each other they would forget everything. That's why eleven was not sure what was going to happen but had a sense that it already did. And the reaason why 9 believe he kills everyone is because at the end the daleks are destroyed and Gallifrey disappeared.
! History could not have been rewritten since it is the moment that makes him meet everyone else before he makes the decision. 11 doesn't go to his past, it's 8th that is travelling to the future. -
Wasn't really fond of the last episode, anyway. Don't think Bill's narration helped.
Next week is a Gatiss episode I think….might be his last chance to go out on a high note. ;)
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Next week is a Gatiss episode I think….might be his last chance to go out on a high note. ;)
Oh? Is he not coming back when Chibnall takes over?
Not that I'm complaining too much, but that's surprising. The dude's contributed so much to Doc Who and loves it a ton. -
@Mr.:
Oh? Is he not coming back when Chibnall takes over?
Not that I'm complaining too much, but that's surprising. The dude's contributed so much to Doc Who and loves it a ton.He says he isn't planning to, but who knows.
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Wasn't really fond of the last episode, anyway. Don't think Bill's narration helped.
Next week is a Gatiss episode I think….might be his last chance to go out on a high note. ;)
If they do any Ice Warriors episodes in the future I hope Chibnall (or whoever the show runner may be) taps Gatiss to do it because Cold War and tonight's episode are the two best episodes of Gatiss' entire Who run in my opinion
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! Pretty cool episode. Loved the Curse of Peladon callback
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One of Gatiss's better stories. Sadly I don't think the return of Alpha Centauri delighted the majority of people watching. XD But I laughed. I wonder if these are the people that colonized Peladon.
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I'm like, 4 episodes behind.
What the heck? Once upon a time I would have been fiending for new Who episodes, checking all the internet sites often to try and watch it ASAP after the airing in Britain. And yet now I'm just waiting weeks at a time and have no rush to catch up. When did that happen?
It was probably the Christmas special with the superhero that finally did it.
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I'm like, 4 episodes behind.
What the heck? Once upon a time I would have been fiending for new Who episodes, checking all the internet sites often to try and watch it ASAP after the airing in Britain. And yet now I'm just waiting weeks at a time and have no rush to catch up. When did that happen?
It was probably the Christmas special with the superhero that finally did it.
Well hey, the upside is, you don't have to wait for two weeks for the Monk episode trilogy to end (the wait wasn't worth it, imo). The downside… not the best story this season, that's for sure.
But hey, Gatiss's recent episode was actually pretty decent, so there's that.
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I'm like, 4 episodes behind.
What the heck? Once upon a time I would have been fiending for new Who episodes, checking all the internet sites often to try and watch it ASAP after the airing in Britain. And yet now I'm just waiting weeks at a time and have no rush to catch up. When did that happen?
It was probably the Christmas special with the superhero that finally did it.
I can tell you exactly what happened. You started feeling different about watching Doctor Who.
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Well, it gets a new doctor and showrunner next season, so maybe that'll help.
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Could be great, could be a nail in the coffin. It'll be interesting to see, at least.
As the sixth doctor said, "change, my dear, and not a moment too soon".Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
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Could be great, could be a nail in the coffin. It'll be interesting to see, at least.
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I'm still kinda baffled that Chibnall was the one they chose as the new showrunner. I mean, he's not a bad writer. He did give us Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, but the rest of his stuff is fairly unremarkable and he hasn't even written an episode since Power of Three.
Anyway, I'm fine with overarching storylines (even though experience shows they usually don't pan out well), but does that mean every single episode in each season will follow the same storyline, as the article seems to indicate? I really hope not since I feel Doctor Who really should maintain that episodic element to it. Perhaps they could go half-and-half like Key of Time or Trial of a Time Lord, where each individual episode/adventure ties into the bigger story.
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I'm okay with season arcs long as you have a real payoff, which is where both RTD and Mofatt have dropped the ball some.
RTD for instance retconned season arcs in afterwards in that he decided "Bad Wolf" should be a thing popping up everywhere after the season was done. Not great. And most of his character arc stuff was "pair people up." Definite payoff near the end of the run though.
Moffatt had a great huge ongoing backwards arc with River and the Silence that was basically a five year plan… except he clearly made large chunks of it up as he went along (Like Amy and Rory's childhood friend Mels), the entire River plan was insane even by Doctor Who villain standards, and he also seemed to cut it off first when Amy left the show, and then really hard ended it when Matt left the show and jammed everything offhand into one episode at the last second.
(Also, outstayed her welcome plotwise by a full season.) I dunno, I overall get the feelin that if Matt had stayed on one more year (that didn't happen to be the 50th) and Moffatt was on two years less, it might have made for a stronger run overall.Similarly, the 50ths anniversary started a "search for Gallifrey" that should have been a thing... but was resolved THE VERY NEXT EPISODE. So I dunno.
I'm fine with arcs, but have a legit plan, an actual end point in mind from the getgo to build towards... and have it be a plan that won't be arbitrarily cut short by switching doctors or companions.
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I'm still kinda baffled that Chibnall was the one they chose as the new showrunner. I mean, he's not a bad writer. He did give us Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, but the rest of his stuff is fairly unremarkable and he hasn't even written an episode since Power of Three.
Anyway, I'm fine with overarching storylines (even though experience shows they usually don't pan out well), but does that mean every single episode in each season will follow the same storyline, as the article seems to indicate? I really hope not since I feel Doctor Who really should maintain that episodic element to it. Perhaps they could go half-and-half like Key of Time or Trial of a Time Lord, where each individual episode/adventure ties into the bigger story.
Yeah I haven't been terribly impressed with his DW stuff, although I do find them enjoyable. However, he seems to be well-praised when it comes to Broadchurch (Haven't seen it myself) which sorta follows the season arc format from what I hear, so that's got me a bit positive, at the very least.
To me, Season 5 had the best balance of story arc. Season 6 was a bit heavier and I liked it, but I don't think the pay-off made up for the anticipation/hype.
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I'm pretty sure he was chosen based on the popularity of Broadchurch. BBC doesn't really care about the individual stories he wrote. He's going with a writers room set up anyway, so it's going to be very different.
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Huh, I wonder how that'll effect the opening credits. Maybe no more "Title, by (individual) Author"? Not that I care, but I just realized we've had that for pretty much every single episode of Doctor Who.
And now I'm wondering what the new credit sequence will be like.
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@Mr.:
Huh, I wonder how that'll effect the opening credits. Maybe no more "Title, by (individual) Author"? Not that I care, but I just realized we've had that for pretty much every single episode of Doctor Who.
And now I'm wondering what the new credit sequence will be like.
Good question, I hadn't really thought about that. Might just be a number of names, or they might leave it for the end credits.
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Audio news: Derek Jacobi returns as the War Master!
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This weeks episode was once again not anything earthshaking, but I liked it a lot. It was written by the Rona Munro, who wrote the very last episode of the classic series (yes, the one with the cheetah people). I thought the characterization and dialogue was pretty good, and the monster was cool at least. My husband being a Roman history buff pointed out that they did not have chain mail back then, that Roman soldiers were not enlisted before the age of 18, and they would not be wearing that plumage at their rank. I'm sure with the costumes it was just "let's grab whatever we have on hand in the studio".
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I like Robby, have pretty much fallen out of the show. It has been a few weeks since I stop watching. I found myself bored in an episode and lost my efforts of keeping up. I might just try binging once the whole season is out.