So basically Erza's mom was just crazy and there's no deeper meaning to it. Sad but true. If only this woman/dragon could have gotten psychological treatment, maybe things would have turned out different for her.
Fairy Tail Series IV Discussion
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i can't kill you..despite the fact that it is what i tried to do the whole time.
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Chapter 519 Sins for lulz :
- Erza slashes the meteor and it… explodes? to bits without any kind of empowering.
- Suddenly, Dragon Slayer Magic can be enchanted into weapon just because Enchant Magic can do anything the plot demands at this point.
- Irene not even attempting to cancel said enchantment with her supposed "God Mode Enchanter" mode
- Irene passively tanking the slash instead of countering with energy breath she used in flashback, or dodge the damn thing.
- Dragon Slayer Magic works perfectly for Erza because… she's Erza, I guess? Beating all Dragonslayer to punch, pretty much?
- Erza not thinking of just un-summon her magic sword to prevent the enemy from using it. Not buying the "out of magic power" shit.
- Irene pointing the sword's tip on Erza's left shoulder blade, but when the latter forcefully stands up the sword manages to pierce through her chest while carefully avoiding harming her precious boob.
- The sword being pretty clean for all bloody wounds it causes.
- Ham-fisting the last-moment redemption because why not.
- Belserion had nothing to do with all this
Sin Tally : 10 (and still counting)
Sentence : Suicide by My Daughter's Smile A bit late, but apparently the only way I can enjoy this manga is by nitpicking and ceaselessly criticizing it because it constantly breaks my suspension of disbelief in every chapter. -
Fairy Tail… I always have loved you...
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Be a mighty Dragon. Be the most powerful Enchantress. Meet Zeref the Uberwizard. Give birth.
Enchant yourself into a random peasant girl? Raise your lovely laughing daughter? Be happy?
I mean, if a normal human isn't enough, she had hundreds of years to steal or prepare a dragonslayer or a morphling like she was. But after Zeref gave her just her old form (tits) she was ok with it, I guess.
"Gotta kill this brat anyway because 400 years were not enough for me to think of a workaround." -
pfft, Mashima just copying Gaara's messed up family
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This was hilarious.
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This chapter just basically summed up Fairy Tail for the past few years in how bad it's been.
If only FT's smile wouldn't get in the way of the Manga ending darn it.
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Look at the bright side, only dragon/demon tumor, august, acknolodgia and zeref to go.
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What about Raksheid? Wasn't Mavis who was supossed do something about it?
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What about Raksheid? Wasn't Mavis who was supossed do something about it?
I was wondering about that too. However in Mavis' defense, there is just no way for her to do anything about someone whose existence she's not even aware of. Regardless of that, Larcade's premature and anti-climatic defeat pretty much flushed any kind of relevance he had going around him down the drain.
I'll chalk it up to August being delirious old man trying too hard to hype Larcade by hinting the least feasible, least accessible and least likely method to defeat the latter.
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pfft, Mashima just copying Gaara's messed up family
For me it was more like Ragyo vs Ryuuko from KLK episode 24, but at least Ragyo never lost her dignity.
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For me it was more like Ragyo vs Ryuuko from KLK episode 24, but at least Ragyo never lost her dignity.
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I guess Wendy couldn't think this shit up when 7 dragons were attacking, huh?
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I guess Wendy couldn't think this shit up when 7 dragons were attacking, huh?
She might have delopped that enchantment as a result of it.
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I don't even know how to put it into words, but this video will do.
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All eyes on August now.
August, my man, no need for words at this point. The pride of Alvarez rests on your shoulders.
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All eyes on August now.
August, my man, no need for words at this point. The pride of Alvarez rests on your shoulders.
Next chapter: August trips over his own feet and breaks his neck.
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No, Mest gets to him and makes him all depresed with the patetic stories of how his teammates got beaten, plottwist: the true stories.
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Lmao. I was thinking Frosch and Lector team up to bring him down.
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Also LOL @ Erza mentioning Makarov when approaching that meteor at the end of the previous chapter. As if his sacrifice had any kind of impact on anything.
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He stoped their mooks. Considering that they are Dinasty warrior level mooks, he just left his children without a way to charge their special bar.
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I cannot accurately explain all the negative emotions I am experiencing right now. After reading this chapter, seeing various posts on various sites, I think I can honestly say this is the worst fight in the history of this series, and yes even topping the Kyouka fight. I have had multiple thoughts on the various levels of increasingly terrible things that happened in this chapter, so many different angles to go from, that I really have no idea if I will be able to encapsulate them all.
! So first off, Erza actually destroyed the fucking Meteor. The Meteor that was more powerful than Jellals strongest attack, and probably the strongest attack that Eileen had to offer, was just defeated by Erzas 1 arm strength. What am I supposed to even be feeling at this point? This completely shits on Jellal making him look like such fodder, it completely shits on Irene that her strongest attack was defeated by a single arm of Erza (How easy would this have been if she was at full strength?), it completely shits on anybody expecting any sort of logical consistency to this manga. There were so many different ways Mashima could of gone about this to have Irene lose but still maintain her hype, but he goes with the worst ways imaginable.
! But guess what? It gets even worse.
! Not only did Erza defeat the Meteor, she is coming down after Irene herself! Yep! After defeating her strongest attack, she now still has energy to want to attack Irene in her Dragon Form itself. Now I was getting angry and sad, thinking Erza is about to 1 shot Irene, but luckily Irene reminds us the reader that her slash shouldnt be able to hurt her because shes a Dragon and Erza doesnt have Dragonslayer Magic to penetrate her scales. So I naturally cool myself off and feel some degree of safety, but then the next panels send 100% horror to my mind. I see Wendy getting back up, thinking to myself that 'Oh God she is going to somehow enchant Erza again and this for some reason is going to defeat Irene". But wait! I remember earlier in the fight when Irene was still in her human form how even Erza with Wendys Enchantments couldnt do jack shit to Irenes durability, so I felt safe again. Until I read what Wendy said.
! "Enchant Erza's blade…..with Dragon slayer Magic...!"
! Are. You. Fucking. Kidding. Me. My heart dropped. I couldn't believe it. First off, that Mashima was actually was going to make Erza defeat Irene, but more importantly than that, he just asspulled Wendys magic into making Dragonslayer mages completely fucking irrelevant.
! I cannot truly explain how terrible a decision this was. I mean this has catastrophic implications for the writing of this series. How the fuck does Wendy know how to do this? How come Irene does not? Why didnt Irene do this in her flashback? Would have saved her people so much. But just think about this. Dragonslayers are absolutely meaningless with the advent of this feat of Wendys. There is absolutely no need to have Dragonslayers anymore when all you need is simply to have battle mages use weapons that have been enchanted by Wendy or somebody else with Dragonslayer magic. Dragonslayers are now not unique anymore, their powers are worthless now when they can be so easily replicated via Enchantment.
! But anyways back to the fight. Now once I realized that Wendy enchanted Erzas blade with Dragonslayer magic, I had no hope left from that point. UNTIL I REMEMBERED THE PAST. In a glorious memory, I remembered that during the GMG arc, even with actual Dragonslayers fighting actual Dragons who should be weak to them, to be damaged easily by them, THEY STILL COULDNT DENT THEM AT ALL! With this memory intact, I confidently turned the page, thinking this should naturally be a repeat, or at the very least, do a minor amount of damage to them, especially considering how this is an almost dead Erza with broken bones who only has the use of her arm arm.
! And then. It happened. The most traumatizing thing somebody who cares about powerlevels could witness. And that was Erza slashing and making Irene suffer and bleed greatly, with 1 single slash. I couldnt fucking believe it. But wait, even though she just did serious damage to Irene which is absolutely fucking insane considering Irenes previous durability feats IN HER HUMAN BASE FORM, she should still naturally be ready for some sort of counterattack or something of that sort right? NOPE!
! SHE REVERTS BACK INTO HER BASE FORM! SERIOUSLY!? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT A BROKEN ERZA JUST SINGLE HANDEDLY (no pun) DEFEATED IRENE'S APEX FORM? HER DRAGON FORM? WITH 1 SINGLE SLASH? ERZA JUST DEFEATED A DRAGON! NOT EVEN ACTUAL DRAGONSLAYERS COULD DEFEAT A DRAGON. HOW DOES THAT FEEL DRAGONSLAYERS?
! I couldnt believe it. An actual Dragon. Defeated by Erza, in her state. To me, at this point, it doesnt even matter what happens afterwards, because Irene at her Apex was just defeated. Her strongest form was defeated by Erza with Wendys Dragonslayer Enchantment, when by all logic and feats we have seen in this series it should just not be possible. I could't even care less that Irene was still standing after the fight, Erza already won in my eyes.
! But anyways we continue. Irene is still standing, grabs her sword and is about to finally put this Mary Sue piece of shit outta her misery. Maybe I can ignore everything that happened previously is she could just accomplish this feat.
! But no. Oh God no. Irene is stalling. Why? What in the fucking fuck could possible make her stall after everything she has said and done. And then we have a flashback. Oh no. Oh God no. Mashima is seriously doing this isn't he? he is actually going to try and make Irene seem good somehow? I read the flashback, she is about to do the Enchantment onto Erza until......Smile.
! What? What is this? What the actual fuck is this? Why the fuck are you having this random thing for Smiles? WHAT THE FUCK.
! Back to battle. She is complaining about Erzas smiling. Well w/e, she is some stupid emotional hag, Erza at the very least is down for the count. Wait. What? SHES GETTING UP? HOW!? WHY!? Its okay to stand fucking down! She even has a sword piercing through her now!
! Immediately have flashbacks to how Kyouka is defeated. Please God no. Anything, please fucking no.
! A HEADBUTT? Seriously? Look at that damage! Look at the blood that Irene just lost from that! An almost dead Erza just did more damage with her headbutt than she could do with her sword powered up by Wendys Enchantment. Just think about this for a second. This is the same Irene who just got done showing those insane durability feats from earlier where she tanked that Erza powered up slash on her forehead like it was nothing! She was still smiling! It didnt effect her at all except for a little blood. Even Wendy didnt give a shit about it when she went into Irenes body. Clearly that flash didnt do jack shit. But now Erzas headbutt does this damage? God dammit!
! But wait. Irene still isnt down yet! And it looks like Erza is now on the ground not being able to do anything again. IT IS FINALLY OVER. ERZA HAS FINALLY LOST. IRENE WILL KILL THIS STUPID CUNT ONCE AND FOR ALL! Irene even managed to make the sword stuck in Erza vanish and come right back into her hand!
! Wait what?
! Irene was able to teleport the sword outta Erza and into her hand? Wait Wait Wait Wait. If she could have done that at any time then.....why.....why......why.....WHY THE FUCK DIDNT YOU DO THAT AT ANY TIME PRIOR TO THIS? YOU COULD HAVE ENDED THE FIGHT AGAINST ERZA BEFORE IT BEGAN IF YOU SIMPLY DID THAT. ESPECIALLY WHEN SHE WAS ABOUT TO SLASH YOU IN YOUR DRAGONFORM. WHY!? The Character induced stupidity is so fucking insane I cannot believe it.
! But anyways, back to battle. So finally Irene will stab Erza. Finally this fight will be ove- Stabs herself
! "How utterly pitiful....It seems that in the end, even the mightiest sorceress in the empire....despite having taking countless lives...was unable to take that of her own daughter" Sigh
! Why do i read this again? Do I like giving myself headaches? Do I like feeling drained like I just got done some mentally intensive task or something?
! Flashback commences, Irene never thought she killed Erza, in fact she left her on the doorstep of some family or church or w/e, completely eradicating her previous statements of she thinking Erza was dead. And she did all of that because of her fucking smile. God help me.
! Irene is the biggest bipolar disorder candidate I have ever seen. What terrible writing to have somebody completely do a 180 in a flashback and then do a 180 in the now. I've had enough of her. I cannot stand her existence anymore. Even after typing all this out, I still have some things I need to highlight, but god damn do I feel so worn out.
! End rant.
! So Im basically done my review of the chapter, but I want to refute some of the points I see where people try to defend this chapter.
! 1. "In the GMG arc all the characters were weaker, and in this arc they are stronger, so its totally okay for Erza to be able to defeat Irene as long as she had dragonslayer enchantment."
! This is such complete bullshit and you know it. Whatever power increase they gained in the time from GMG arc to now, does not then somehow mean they can now defeat Dragons in 1 shot, let alone beating them at all, let alone doing any serious damage to them. As we saw in the GMG arc, mages who are specialized into defeating Dragons, COULDNT EVEN DENT THEM. You cannot tell me with a straight face that you think Erza gained so much power from that time that she is now able to CASUALLY DEFEAT DRAGONS SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE HAD DRAGONSLAYER MAGIC ON HER SWORD. That is so monstrously ridiculous. Combined with the fact that Irene should probably be considered stronger than 90% of the rest of the dragons, considering she has Enchantment on her side and is the Sage Dragon, and this makes it look even worse.
! People who are actual Dragonslayers couldnt even defeat a Dragon before Erza did who never was one. How pathetic is that? Not only that, but how pathetic is it that Erza CAN FUCKING 1 SHOT A DRAGON. I am absolutely baffled that you people think this makes sense. Especially when Erza was so completely damaged. The gap in power from GMG Erza to Current Erza should not be so monstrous that by merely adding Dragonslayer magic to Current Erza, she can fodderize top tier Dragons.
! 2. "Irene was still standing at the end of this chapter, therefore Erza and Wendy didnt win"
! While on a technical aspect that may be true, but the bottom line is that Erza defeated Irene in her strongest form. Irene was not able to go back into her Dragonform, nor she was using her normal magical blasts like before. As far as Im concerned, she lost from that point onward. Hell she even looks like shes about to keel over any second.
! But thats really beside the point. The point is that Erza and Wendy should have never stood a chance in hell against Irene. Yet they did. Not only did they, but it likes that brought to down to 1% hp left. If Erza and Wendy are 100% knocked out, then Irene looks like she is 99% knocked out, as far as Im concerned, thats a win for Erza and Wendy. They should have never even gotten this far in fight. The Power levels make no goddamned sense.
! End Refute.
! But with the advent of Wendy Enchanting Dragonslayer magic onto items, what does this do for Acnologias hype. If a broken bones Erza can casually defeat Irene Dragon Form with 1 single slash. What hope does Acnologia have? All Wendy needs to do is allow every mage a weapon that has DS magic to it, and then Acnologia is fucked. Mashima has royally screwed over his manga with Wendys ability here.
! God Irene is just such a terrible villain. If she didnt have her dragon form, she wouldn't have even put up as much of a fight offensive wise as Ajeel did who could 1v1 Erza. God dammit all.
! Sorry for the gigantic rant. Im sure there are still things I wanted to say, but Im on fumes here. Im sure I was getting random and out of order during the middle of this to the end. My only hope is that August somehow doesnt get shitted on. (Who the fuck am I kidding) -
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It is absolutely absurd how worked-up people are getting over a chapter in a manga series.
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It is absolutely absurd how worked-up people are getting over a chapter in a manga series.
that guy bases his entire channel on overacting/overreacting to stuff
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In Fairy Tail's defense, it's more than just tits, though. Don't forget the asses…
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In Fairy Tail's defense, it's more than just tits, though. Don't forget the asses…
ARTEMIS, I'm saddened that you left out an important building block of Fairy tail post Grimoire Heart. It's also about bondage and torture scenes….
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ARTEMIS, I'm saddened that you left out an important building block of Fairy tail post Grimoire Heart. It's also about bondage and torture scenes….
I see… There's so much more to Fairy Tail and a lot of people, me included, just are way too superficial to completely comprehend and grasp its full beauty and glory.
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Fairy Tail is also about flying cats.
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Thundercats beat flying cats, though.
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It is absolutely absurd how worked-up people are getting over a chapter in a manga series.
Even worse, over a chapter in a manga series like Fairy Tail. Talk about a waste.
Wendy might have discovered how to enchant objects as a side effect of having Irene inhabit her body and using enchantments. Much like how Natsu, Grey and others learned new techniques mid battle.
I know it's a shitty explanation, but it's a shitty manga so…¯_(ツ)_/¯
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No one is a bit terrified about how big Baby Erza's head was?
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No one is a bit terrified about how big Baby Erza's head was?
I was terrified. Mashima doesn't know how to draw babies and kids. He only draws shotas or however this thing is called.
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OMG… Baby Erza has... absolutely no breasts. How it this even possible? Sure, we're talking about babies here, but we're also talking about Mashima.
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No one is a bit terrified about how big Baby Erza's head was?
well,newborn babies are basically just heads with something attached, but yeah,this was a bit too much
also..now that i think about it…what was exactly her plan?
i mean, she talks like she is going to put herself in the baby RIGHT NOW, but erza is just a baby,what was the plan after that?just stand there,in the middle of the woods, with a corpse at her side,hoping some human finds her instead of wild animals? -
She was a fetus for 400 years, I'm surprised that she survived.
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Irene's always been more a tackler, less a thinker.
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The thing with the magic of some characters (natsu/gray/gajeel/laxus and lluvia) is that it works very straightforward, and if they get a new property or effect is an external factor or an adaptation. See also Lucy's dress fusion thingie.
The other group of characters, they have an inventory of different kinds of powers, and using something outside that range needs an explanation, like erza's armor, Lucy's spirits, elfman and mirajane's possessions, and Wendy's attributes or properties.
Wendy's new enchantment is like if she just pulled out a "anti-antimagic particles enchantment", makes sense under her school of magic, but.. Why didn't you used in the last arc where Laxus needed that specific power to survive? Or Lucy suddenly taking out the dragon constellation key at this point in the story where we know exactly how many keys she has and what do they do.
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I see… There's so much more to Fairy Tail and a lot of people, me included, just are way too superficial to completely comprehend and grasp its full beauty and glory.
Thank you. Fairy tail is like a train wreck. You want to look away, but it has a …. You know what I can't even finish that sentence; because there is nothing that makes me have to watch a train wreck.
Fairy tail has quite honestly become pandering to the lowest common denominator. I am not going to rip on any one chapter or story; because honestly after Grimoire Heart arc it just became about power ups and strip downs. I follow the story on the wiki because I feel like I want to see it to the end, but honestly this arc and it's zenith of Larcade was enough to tell me that the level of sex, bondage, and torture were at unforgivable levels.
I can live with the Ham fisted power ups and pointless changes in alignment/personality, but treating the women in your story as nothing but sex symbols/toys/slaves is ridiculous.
I do not have to watch a train wreck, and I no longer feel the need to see where this ends up.
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Thank you. Fairy tail is like a train wreck. You want to look away, but it has a …. You know what I can't even finish that sentence; because there is nothing that makes me have to watch a train wreck.
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Erza coming clean with her mother in the end…just another nail in the coffin.
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@Don:
Erza coming clean with her mother in the end…just another nail in the coffin.
Is there even still a coffin to put nails in, considering how little Mashima cares for actual storytelling and characterization? Mashima never really put effort into those things even before the time skip but he pretty much gave up on it after the Tenrou Island arc, imo.
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The only coffin remaining is the fact that it's trash. Therefore it's so bad that it's good. If it were just completely boring without any trash factor to laugh at, then there definitely wouldn't be any coffin more to put nails in.
That, and I care a little bit for some characters…
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also..now that i think about it…what was exactly her plan?
i mean, she talks like she is going to put herself in the baby RIGHT NOW, but erza is just a baby,what was the plan after that?There was never any plan, as it wasn't designed to be executed in any circumstance in order to appeal Irene's humanity.
In conclusion, Irene's whole characterization is a total mess I don't even know where to begin. Her actions toward Erza prior the final reveal must be treated as either deliberate lie or insanity-induced just to make sense of the ham-fisted conclusion.
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ahahha,oh my god the new chapter
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At least out the link:https://yonkouprod.com/reader/read/fairy-tail/en/0/521/page/1
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Wasn't Erza supposed to have had every bone in her body broken how does she even…never mind she's Erza.
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so next august vs gildartz ? for the tittle of strongest wizard ?
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Well at least she's out of the picture. For a while?
Gotta focus on the positives.