In case you misunderstood, Kaido is the shogun.
That is not Burguess. That's Mr.Store.
Is he ? The translation made it seem like they are two different people.
In case you misunderstood, Kaido is the shogun.
That is not Burguess. That's Mr.Store.
Is he ? The translation made it seem like they are two different people.
Still, Kaidou had the guy that was at raftel and he just killed him? Would it not be more wise to force him to say it by telling him he would kill momo and the rest if not?
Oh Usopp. Do you really think Luffy could be the PK without surpassed the emperors?
Is he ? The translation made it seem like they are two different people.
I guess it's ambiguous until there's a more precise translation.
It's easily possible that they are separate persons and Shogun is allied with Kaido for some reason. Or controlled by him.
If Luffy actually said "Are you there or not there, One Piece?" makes me think Oda is subtly implying that maybe One Piece isn't on Raftel after all. Oda works in mysterious ways.
@uniaka:
Still, Kaidou had the guy that was at raftel and he just killed him? Would it not be more wise to force him to say it by telling him he would kill momo and the rest if not?
Jack almost killed every single Mink for not telling where Raizo is so…
You mean like how they split on Dressrosa. I'm so hyped at seeing them use same strategy every arc.
Yes but this time no large periods without seeing all the SH's. Big Mom involved, crew splits. Luffy goes alone to getSanji, Zoro leads the others to find Poneglyph and make copy.
This is probably the most important chapter in ages. It blows the doors wife open and finally everyy happening now ties directly into the search for One Piece.
This is whyOda is such a fking genius. He crafted this magnificent story , all these p!ot threads that connect…......
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@$abZ:
If Luffy actually said "Are you there or not there, One Piece?" makes me think Oda is subtly implying that maybe One Piece isn't on Raftel after all. Oda works in mysterious ways.
Luffy is in it for adventure and to discover for himself if it's thete and what it is
Is he ? The translation made it seem like they are two different people.
It is said The Shogun and Pirate Kaidou as in Kaido, the Shogun and Pirate.
It is said The Shogun and Pirate Kaidou as in Kaido, the Shogun and Pirate.
Still ambigous. Especially in a translation like this one.
Oda did say that the strawhats who didn't appear much of Dressrosa will get to shine this year so the team separation might be the same but we might actually see Nami's side as oppose to Luffy, or Luffy will join Nami's group while the strawhats were on Dressrosa will stay back or something.
If Momo can hear the voice of things then it does not matter if his father told him he would still be useful to Kaido.
Would be cooler if Kaidou and Shogun were 2 different persons:
Shogun:"Kaidou-sama, Oden knows about the secret of the world, but he won't tell us."
Kaidou (in a Tyrion Lennister-mood):"Let's go kill him!"
Luffy should kick Kaidou's ass just because Kaidou erased that valuable info in Oden's head. But he probably kicks his ass cause Kaidou made the ninja cry.
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Yes but this time no large periods without seeing all the SH's. Big Mom involved, crew splits. Luffy goes alone to getSanji, Zoro leads the others to find Poneglyph and make copy.
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No!!! Luffy has to screw up the "copy-the-poneglyph"-Mission.
In about 10 minutes I made up 3 different ways how Luffy could screw this up. Imagine what Oda has in store for us!
Especially in a translation like this one.
This is the correct answer. They are two separate people.
Would be cooler if Kaidou and Shogun were 2 different persons:
Shogun:"Kaidou-sama, Oden knows about the secret of the world, but he won't tell us."
Kaidou (in a Tyrion Lennister-mood):"Let's go kill him!"Luffy should kick Kaidou's ass just because Kaidou erased that valuable info in Oden's head. But he probably kicks his ass cause Kaidou made the ninja cry.
The shogun are most likely a group that worked for Momo's dad but betrayed him so they could take over wano also Kaido was said not to be human so it would make no sense for him to be from wano or for him to fight Moriah when he was going into the new world also it says Shogun and Kaido
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It is said The Shogun and Pirate Kaidou as in Kaido, the Shogun and Pirate.
well, if you say so…
Holy crap that is even worse than Mangapanda.
From my understanding all the theories about Momo, his real father and Kaidou were confirmed .
There's a raw somewhere out of here?
So about those complaining about Zou, can you really say Zou isn't a great arc, this one chapter alone was a game changer.
another Robin rescue arc incoming
Can anyone provide me a link to a japanese scanlation?
Tha translation is crappy, so if I could check the original one I could grab some meanings better. For example if Kaido and the shogun are two different people or not. At least if the original one is not ambiguous as well.
Thanks in advance
There's a raw somewhere out of here?
There is a korean SCAN somewhere in the Spoiler thread. the only Raws there are only some small Images of single Panels.
Why are mangastream and mangapanda sooo late with their translations today. lol
It's not like the RAWS aren't out there for them to use.
@uniaka:
Still, Kaidou had the guy that was at raftel and he just killed him? Would it not be more wise to force him to say it by telling him he would kill momo and the rest if not?
I have read the spoiler and the chapter and its says nothing about him being on Raftel or on Roger's crew just that his family were the ones that made the poneglyph so they knew what was written on them also momo has the voice of all things like roger so he does not need to be able to read them to be useful to kaido.
Three ambiguous Raftels:
LOL. I know I'm overthinking it.
@The:
Why are mangastream and mangapanda sooo late with their translations today. lol
It's not like the RAWS aren't out there for them to use.
mangapanda has just been stealing them from mangastream.
@sanji''s_dad:
Why are you coming into the chapter thread if you don't want to be spoiled that would be like going into the spoiler thread and complaining about being spoiled lol.
Lol that's what I was thinking as well
So about those complaining about Zou, can you really say Zou isn't a great arc, this one chapter alone was a game changer.
It's a mixed bag. One chapter giving some long awaited answers doesn't magically erase the low points.
good lord the scanlation out right now pure shit.
So, after re-reading the chapter, I guess it's safe to say that after Zou, it's going to be non-stop action. We're basically going to be challenging 2 emperors at the same time after this. I guess this is why Oda has Zou as such a calm/ information based arc - the calm before the storm, all hell will basically break loose. I wonder who the SH's will go to war with first? Kaidou or Big Mom. Though many people will say Kaidou for sure, I can't see Big Mom just letting the SH's just take Sanji back and get a good look at the "Road Poneglyph" without launching a huge war against them. The New World seriously ain't no joke. Good thing Luffy formed that alliance before leaving Dressrosa…he's going to need all the it!
Aohige, sandman, CCC…Anyone HELP!
Lol that's what I was thinking as well
You should tell him that as well he replied to me saying he was not expecting spoilers with a join date of 2010 lol.
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good lord the scanlation out right now pure shit.
I know right it has no swearing like mangastream adds to their ones even though the spoiler thread never seem to have any swearing in the translations lol.
I can't get the bigger Picture of Kaiodu's actions tbh.
-Ok, the suicides = Hobby, cause he can't die anyway.
-Just like Doffy he wants to destroy the world/start an all-out war.
So why give a damn about that Oden?
Does he wanna be PK before he destroys the world?
this chapter was too much so good
and so far 18 chapters of zou > all dressrosa arc
I can't get the bigger Picture of Kaiodu's actions tbh.
-Ok, the suicides = Hobby, cause he can't die anyway.
-Just like Doffy he wants to destroy the world/start an all-out war.
So why give a damn about that Oden?
Does he wanna be PK before he destroys the world?
People will have to try to stop him from destroying the world which could give him his dream of dying plus he only wants to destroy the world because its boring which is different from Doflamingo's which is revenge.
I don't like to harp on bad translations from new people too much because I know not everyone speaks fluent English, but holy shit shat was that?
Kaido is about as ruthless as I thought he'd be.Great to see some hints on Raftel.
I can't get the bigger Picture of Kaiodu's actions tbh.
-Ok, the suicides = Hobby, cause he can't die anyway.
-Just like Doffy he wants to destroy the world/start an all-out war.
So why give a damn about that Oden?
Does he wanna be PK before he destroys the world?
Him becoming a PK is probably one of the objectives on the path to his real goal. The all out war where he can die in battle or win, or whatever. Should he become PK he'd probably have an easier time rallying other pirates and challenging the rest of the world.
This chapter has put me on the "Straw Hats won't fight on Zou" bandwagon. We just had drawn out Dressrosa and are about to directly conflict one or two emperors. Plus the minks have been through a lot already. Dog and Cat are dumping plot on us like Rayleigh
BM's intentions are more obvious: She bonds with the Vinsmoke-Family AND gets the SHs (including Robin) under her flag, so she can force Robin to decipher BM's Poneglyph. But Robin could still mislead her just like she did with Croc.
Man it's been a very long time since we've had a revelation chapter on this scale i loved it
considering the ponyglyphs i find it conveniet that we have 4 emperors to match the number of these ponyglyphs in the OP world
my take is that the old yonko each had one ponyglyph and mainly that was the reason they kept fighting each other it wasn't just a war for territories
the ponyglyph in Zoe i think belonged to Shanks since we know inhuarashi had some relationship with him
the lost ponyglyph belonged to whitebeard only the WB pirates know where it is , probably …
and this is a great reaction for anyone who says we don't have to fight an X villain :ninja:
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need better translation !!! lol
This chapter is so good i don't want it to end
info dump, comedy, tragic story. aaaaahhhh .
This chapter has put me on the "Straw Hats won't fight on Zou" bandwagon. We just had drawn out Dressrosa and are about to directly conflict one or two emperors. Plus the minks have been through a lot already. Dog and Cat are dumping plot on us like Rayleigh
Zoro still had to deal with Jack while Luffy is away. IF Jack returned to Zou.
are there any better translations available? Stream and Scumpanda is lacking hard..
Zoro still had to deal with Jack while Luffy is away. IF Jack returned to Zou.
If the Straw Hats split up again(fingers crossed they won't) Zoro, a few others, and Momo's harem are definitely going to Wano. They won't be staying on Zou.
If the Straw Hats split up again(fingers crossed they won't) Zoro, a few others, and Momo's harem are definitely going to Wano. They won't be staying on Zou.
But Wano is enemy land now, they would walk in Kaidou's nest.
If the Straw Hats split up again(fingers crossed they won't) Zoro, a few others, and Momo's harem are definitely going to Wano. They won't be staying on Zou.
You got a Point there, but i hoped to see a fight on zounisha's head, would have been epic though I am not a fight-chapter-fan.
Bruh :ninja:
are there any better translations available? Stream and Scumpanda is lacking hard..
Scumpanda copies off Stream now, so you'll have to wait for Stream to post for a legible translation.
@Mr.:
Scumpanda copies off Stream now, so you'll have to wait for Stream to post for a legible translation.
Well, I guess these discussions about whether Kaido is the Shogun will keep going for a while then…
knowing 3 points would be suffice…just add the points to make a triangle and Raftel will be on longest arm..
When the SHs hear bout Momo and his dad being poneglyph-masons, even Franky's hair-whale is like "OMG!"
So hilarious, I had to Point it out again!