Well, it's not a legimite reason. If Doflamingo dies -> cage 'breaks', so they could just defeat Doflamingo, but Oda never changes nothing so Luffy must do it in this ridicule way that we are reading.
Oda just made the cage shrink to keep everyone busy, and this just sucks a lot, because we wanna see characters like Zoro doing something more intersting than that. Dressrosa it's the worst saga ever, and this makes me worry about the whole history we will see in New World.
Chapter 788: "My Fight"
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What a boring/bad chapter, Dressrosa is just getting worse and worse.
It's a good pace climax, and has it's purpose.
There's simply any logic in what is going on:
- Why that little dwarf cant heal Luffy/Law? Just because it would be to easy to beat Doflamingo if this happen? I prefer to see an enemy fall in an easy way rather than in a dramatic-ridiculous-shit way, come on. One can see, if this little princess it's crying in the whole country, even Doflamingo could be healed. But we know this will not happen ¬¬.
She is healing the people trying to push the cage and run away from it. They are on the outskirts, far from Doflamingo.
- Zoro
He's too far and if he went, the cage would be closing up on him and everyone else would start dying.
Kinemon
Kinemon would not stand a chance against Doflamingo still.
and all the colisseum fighters with one thought ''Ah, we can easily defeat doflamingo now, but let's try to stop this ridicule bird cage instead!!! And let the all our weaklings fellows die for us!!!'' Just, what the fuck?? Let Luffy win could be important to Zoro, but it is NOT for the others!!
They would receive the same treatment as all the other gladiators. Not to mention their healing will go away soon.
- This birdcage power makes no sense at all, seems like even an Yonkou couldn't do something about it.
It's just powerful, you either try to physically stop it temporarily or defeat the creator. His strings are uber strong. Just have to accept that fact.
And lastly… Why a lot of people STILL enjoying this manga like the old times? Wtf...
I enjoy it based off what I've gotten from this chapter. An entire nation is preventing their death and waiting for the one man (not Fujitora as he has his reasons) to get up and finish him.
Everyone else is not able.
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The colosseum fighters easily defeating don is joke injure or not .
To even hurt don you need haki .I think Bartolomeo and the others could beat him easily.
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Well, it's not a legimite reason. If Doflamingo dies -> cage 'breaks', so they could just defeat Doflamingo, but Oda never changes nothing so Luffy must do it in this ridicule way that we are reading.
Oda just made the cage shrink to keep everyone busy, and this just sucks a lot, because we wanna see characters like Zoro doing something more intersting than that. Dressrosa it's the worst saga ever, and this makes me worry about the whole history we will see in New World.I really enjoyed this Arc, only disappointment for me was the Luffy/Doflamingo fight. I felt like i should have seen more. We've seen Zoro do something more interesting, he's started attacking the birdcage.
It eliminated all the;"Why didn't Zoro try stopping the cage, obviously PIS".
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I think Bartolomeo and the others could beat him easily.
You seriously underestimate the man.
He's a one good finishing shot(s) from Luffy away, not a pussy punch.
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Well, it's not a legimite reason. If Doflamingo dies -> cage 'breaks', so they could just defeat Doflamingo, but Oda never changes nothing so Luffy must do it in this ridicule way that we are reading.
Oda just made the cage shrink to keep everyone busy, and this just sucks a lot, because we wanna see characters like Zoro doing something more intersting than that. Dressrosa it's the worst saga ever, and this makes me worry about the whole history we will see in New World.Depends on what your definition of "good" saga is . It's easily one of my personal favorites . And i am definitely confident that it will only go up my list once i re-read the arc in one sitting when it's finished and out with good translations .
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@Doffy.:
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Oh Jeez Mihawk couldn't beat Buggy so it means that Mihawk is weaker than Buggy …................... This shitty DBZ power level logic still surprises me to this day especially when applied to One Piece .
We all know what is the next page, stop complaining about the utter development of Fujitora's uselessness.
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@DHL:
I really enjoyed this Arc, only disappointment for me was the Luffy/Doflamingo fight. I felt like i should have seen more. We've seen Zoro do something more interesting, he's started attacking the birdcage.
It eliminated all the;"Why didn't Zoro try stopping the cage, obviously PIS".
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You seriously underestimate the man.
He's a one good finishing shot(s) from Luffy away, not a pussy punch.
Dude, Doflamingo can barely walk. Sure his powers is dangerous, but at least they should try to beat him. Instead, Oda want to show us some random fighters dying. And now we will see more crying bullshit from Viola and Rebecca. Dressrosa ins't with any climax at all. We had some a few chapters before, but in the sequence we're having a hell of an anti-climax from all this useless dialogs, a whole country fighting with a ridiculous CAGE and now MORE CRYING. And you still like it? All right, I give up.
Other thiing: Sabo fighting with Burguess sucks too. This is another bad reason that Oda made it up to make an excellent character busy with a shit-crap like Burguess. -
I think Bartolomeo and the others could beat him easily.
Bart to big of a fanboy to get into luffy senpai way lol.
That would make no sense what so ever .
Luffy need haki \ gear 4 to even hurt don but the others that don't have it ( only 2 we have seen ) can beat don easily .EDIT in this chapter don has no problem walking as you can see the wobble text is no longer on screen .
Will use a metaphor .
It might take 1 hit to take me down that don't mean a child can do it .
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Dude, Doflamingo can barely walk. Sure his powers is dangerous, but at least they should try to beat him. Instead, Oda want to show us some random fighters dying. And now we will see more crying bullshit from Viola and Rebecca. Dressrosa ins't with any climax at all. We had some a few chapters before, but in the sequence we're having a hell of an anti-climax from all this useless dialogs, a whole country fighting with a ridiculous CAGE and now MORE CRYING. And you still like it? All right, I give up.
Other thiing: Sabo fighting with Burguess sucks too. This is another bad reason that Oda made it up to make an excellent character busy with a shit-crap like Burguess.I can't believe i am having to say this but did you by any chance miss the arc being about DRESSROSA THE COUNTRY AND NOT JUST LUFFY VS DOFFY ? FFS ….........
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In the words of Shiryu: "He is in such a state, he would fall and collapse if you so as much poke him." In essence, A "pussy punch" would be overkill courteousy of that near incapacitating attack and ROFLstomping he endured from Law and Luffy respectively. I wont be surprised if the next manages to kill him ._. I've seen enough string power versatility bullshit to last the whole rest of One Piece.
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It was a joke lol. Rebecca was finally going to do something, but as soon as she was Viola was like "nope!". People on here are so sensitive lol
To be fair, Viola has not been doing much later either, so it's good to see at least one of the princesses doing something.
Even if that "something" means getting slaughtered.
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Bart to big of a fanboy to get into luffy senpai way lol.
That would make no sense what so ever .
Luffy need haki \ gear 4 to even hurt don but the others that don't have it ( only 2 we have seen ) can beat don easily .EDIT in this chapter don has no problem walking as you can see the wobble text is no longer on screen .
Will use a metaphor .
It might take 1 hit to take me down that don't mean a child can do it .
And power wise that is what colosseum fighters are to donYea, of course Luffy needed full power, but now Doflamingo is very weak. And we know that Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao and Kyros are strong. Do you really think that they couldnt defeat Doflamingo in such conditions? You got be kidding me…
They are not fighting simply because Oda don't want to, not because there's a good reason. Oda writes in the same way like he did 20 years ago, we will never change this structure. So, we will always see Luffy beating the boss and if Oda have to keep busy tens of characters for Luffy doing so, we will arrange reasons to this no matter how lame they are. This is why I am hating the end of Dressrosa. -
In the words of Shiryu: "He is in such a state, he would fall and collapse if you so as much poke him." In essence, A "pussy punch" would be overkill courteousy of that near incapacitating attack and ROFLstomping he endured from Law and Luffy respectively. I wont be surprised if the next manages to kill him ._. I've seen enough string power versatility bullshit to last the whole rest of One Piece.
I won't call a gear 4 hit a pussy punch lol
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None of those guys know about Doula's condition.
You can't use out-of-universe knowledge to blame their behaviors.
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Yea, of course Luffy needed full power, but now Doflamingo is very weak. And we know that Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao and Kyros are strong. Do you really think that they couldnt defeat Doflamingo in such conditions? You got be kidding me…
Kyros couldn't. Would be even worse now with Doula using his Awakening.
And they're too away from Doula anyway. They don't have time to go after him.
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And one last thing.. Oda made a pretty big mistake inventing this Princess healing power. In a few chapters ago, we saw Mansherry NEXT TO Law and did nothing. Why's that? Simply because if Law get healed, Doffy would be defeated easily and Luffy would not received the glory. So, thats that. If a power like this had been used in a realistic-right way there would simply not have drama, and if the power its not used this is absolutely ridiculous.
Is there some One Piece fanboy to counter that? -_-ps: Sorry for my bad english.
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Yea, of course Luffy needed full power, but now Doflamingo is very weak. And we know that Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao and Kyros are strong. Do you really think that they couldnt defeat Doflamingo in such conditions? You got be kidding me…
They are not fighting simply because Oda don't want to, not because there's a good reason. Oda writes in the same way like he did 20 years ago, we will never change this structure. So, we will always see Luffy beating the boss and if Oda have to keep busy tens of characters for Luffy doing so, we will arrange reasons to this no matter how lame they are. This is why I am hating the end of Dressrosa.Barto this and that, I don't see him beating Doflamingo. The dude has not been resting one bit the entire time.
Cavendish maybe could take on Doflamingo but the rest no way.
As andy mentioned and so have I;
It might take 1 hit to take me down that don't mean a child can do it .
@DHL:
You seriously underestimate the man.
He's a one good finishing shot(s) from Luffy away, not a pussy punch.
Doflamingo is not going down that easily.
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And one last thing.. Oda made a pretty big mistake inventing this Princess healing power. In a few chapters ago, we saw Mansherry NEXT TO Law and did nothing. Why's that? Simply because if Law get healed, Doffy would be defeated easily and Luffy would not received the glory. So, thats that. If a power like this had been used in a realistic-right way there would simply not have drama, and if the power its not used this is absolutely ridiculous.
Is there some One Piece fanboy to counter that? -_-ps: Sorry for my bad english.
They repaired his arm?
It comes at a cost?
Mansherry isn't a full auto senzu bean dispenser. It takes time.
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And one last thing.. Oda made a pretty big mistake inventing this Princess healing power. In a few chapters ago, we saw Mansherry NEXT TO Law and did nothing. Why's that? Simply because if Law get healed, Doffy would be defeated easily and Luffy would not received the glory. So, thats that. If a power like this had been used in a realistic-right way there would simply not have drama, and if the power its not used this is absolutely ridiculous.
Is there some One Piece fanboy to counter that? -_-She healed his arm.
Also, if you're going to call anyone fanboy for arguing back, then you're just trolling.
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None of those guys know about Doula's condition.
You can't use out-of-universe knowledge to blame their behaviors.
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Kyros couldn't. Barto, Cavendish and Chinjao would probably be even worse.
And they're too away from Doula anyway. They don't have time to go after him.
I dont know why you are so sure of it. Doflamingo must be 10-20% of his full power right now, this should be enough for 5-7 strong warriors to take him down.
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She healed his arm.
WOOW, thank you for recovering this very important event, now Law can use his two arms to hold his sword, and not just finish Doffy off immediately if he was full healed.
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In the words of Shiryu: "He is in such a state, he would fall and collapse if you so as much poke him." In essence, A "pussy punch" would be overkill courteousy of that near incapacitating attack and ROFLstomping he endured from Law and Luffy respectively. I wont be surprised if the next manages to kill him ._. I've seen enough string power versatility bullshit to last the whole rest of One Piece.
Doflamingo isn't in such a state. Shieeet did Shiryu come outta nowhere out of Burgess bag and say that about Doflamingo?
No.
Doflamingo is in a far better condition than Whitebeard was when Shiryuu gave that line.
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Yea, of course Luffy needed full power, but now Doflamingo is very weak. And we know that Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao and Kyros are strong. Do you really think that they couldnt defeat Doflamingo in such conditions? You got be kidding me…
They are not fighting simply because Oda don't want to, not because there's a good reason. Oda writes in the same way like he did 20 years ago, we will never change this structure. So, we will always see Luffy beating the boss and if Oda have to keep busy tens of characters for Luffy doing so, we will arrange reasons to this no matter how lame they are. This is why I am hating the end of Dressrosa.Chinjao that luffy beat with a gear 3 move that he could not even hit don with .
Kyros that almost get his head cut off with one kick .Don being very weak don't stop him from using his awakening power that block luffy gear 4 attack and had luffy flying all around city to dodge .
Or stop him from doing his other moves and this is after getting some rest where he is not wobble anymore.
Gear 2 haki moves could not hurt don after he his inside destroy .
There are few people on the island that might be able to beat don and there not the colisseum fighters .TLG , FFVIIR and Shenmue 3 2015 the E3 of dreams .
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I dont know why you are so sure of it. Doflamingo must be 10-20% of his full power right now, this should be enough for 5-7 strong warriors to take him down.
Again, who the fuck in Dressrosa knows that?
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I dont know why you are so sure of it. Doflamingo must be 10-20% of his full power right now, this should be enough for 5-7 strong warriors to take him down.
Sooo basically this.
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Again, who the fuck in Dressrosa knows that?
I mean even Sabo said he couldn't take on Doflamingo with burgess in the way. That's something
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Chinjao that luffy beat with a gear 3 move that he could not even hit don with .
Kyros that almost get his head cut off with one kick .Don being very weak don't stop him from using his awakening power that block luffy gear 4 attack and had luffy flying all around city to dodge .
Or stop him from doing his other moves and this is after getting some rest where he is not wobble anymore.
Gear 2 haki moves could not hurt don after he his inside destroy but side charcaters can .If Doflamingo it's still this strong, just a bunch of warrior cannot hold him this long.
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It's not about Doflamingo can kill the whole Dressrosa yet, its about the damn fact that are a lot of good characters doing boring shit in the supposed climax of the arc, just because Oda wants to Luffy defeat Doflamingo just because he cannot change his manga structure in EIGHTEEN YEARS.
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Some of the logic used here is pretty stupid. People act like the characters in the island have omniscient knowledge, in-build radars and instant teleportation abilities to allow them to be in any part of the island in a matter of seconds.
Zoro, Kyros, Sai, none of those guys have time to go after Doula or know how weak he is right now. Heck, some of those guys were unconscious just a few minutes ago. The only logical thing they can do right now is… doing exactly what they're doing right now, which is buying time.
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And one last thing.. Oda made a pretty big mistake inventing this Princess healing power. In a few chapters ago, we saw Mansherry NEXT TO Law and did nothing. Why's that? Simply because if Law get healed, Doffy would be defeated easily and Luffy would not received the glory. So, thats that. If a power like this had been used in a realistic-right way there would simply not have drama, and if the power its not used this is absolutely ridiculous.
Is there some One Piece fanboy to counter that? -_-ps: Sorry for my bad english.
I dont know why you are so sure of it. Doflamingo must be 10-20% of his full power right now, this should be enough for 5-7 strong warriors to take him down.
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WOOW, thank you for recovering this very important event, now Law can use his two arms to hold his sword, and not just finish Doffy off immediately if he was full healed.
Is it that hard to put the two and two together ? We knew that she healed Law's arm and then in this chapter we found out her powers limits .
And that's the reason why you pay attention to chapters like these so you don't end up making an ass out of yourself ( like you just did ) .
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In the words of Shiryu: "He is in such a state, he would fall and collapse if you so as much poke him." In essence, A "pussy punch" would be overkill courteousy of that near incapacitating attack and ROFLstomping he endured from Law and Luffy respectively. I wont be surprised if the next manages to kill him ._. I've seen enough string power versatility bullshit to last the whole rest of One Piece.
Now that you say the name, i wonder about Shiryu of the Rain's fruit ability. Has to match with Zoro's power i suppose, whether awakened or not.
Doflamingo's actual resilience and endurance is marvellous, given the Haoshoku grade, he perfectly can stand against any One Pieceverse's being. Thanks to his glasses we don't know how many damage has taken and worse, what capacity would have Luffy's new attack.
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If Doflamingo it's still this strong, just a bunch of warrior cannot hold him this long.
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It's not about Doflamingo can kill the whole Dressrosa yet, its about the damn fact that are a lot of good characters doing boring shit in the supposed climax of the arc, just because Oda wants to Luffy defeat Doflamingo just because he cannot change his manga structure in EIGHTEEN YEARS.
You guys really cant see this? And if you do, are u really ok with this? lol..What the hell are you trying to say here ? Because so far it's been pretty damn illogical and just stupid .
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Chinjao that luffy beat with a gear 3 move that he could not even hit don with .
Kyros that almost get his head cut off with one kick .Don being very weak don't stop him from using his awakening power that block luffy gear 4 attack and had luffy flying all around city to dodge .
Or stop him from doing his other moves and this is after getting some rest where he is not wobble anymore.
Gear 2 haki moves could not hurt don after he his inside destroy .
There are few people on the island that might be able to beat don and there not the colisseum fighters .DUUDE, if Kyros was able to defeat one of Doflaminos strongers comrades why he couldnt at least MATCH with Doffy currently stage!! It's simply logic for frikkin sake. Add this with Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao, Sai, Robin doing support and other guys and how they couldnt defeat him? Even Viola wanna do something now.
Seriously, I dont know if this is a blindness from fanboyzism or what, but I am quiting here. -
DUUDE, if Kyros was able to defeat one of Doflaminos strongers comrades why he couldnt at least MATCH with Doffy currently stage!! It's simply logic for frikkin sake. Add this with Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao, Sai, Robin doing support and other guys and how they couldnt defeat him? Even Viola wanna do something now.
Seriously, I dont know if this is a blindness from fanboyzism or what, but I am quiting here.Logic dictates that Doula would just do this to them.
I dunno how any of those characters would be able to do anything against those giant string tentacles that pretty much surround him.
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DUUDE, if Kyros was able to defeat one of Doflaminos strongers comrades why he couldnt at least MATCH with Doffy currently stage!! It's simply logic for frikkin sake. Add this with Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Chinjao, Sai, Robin doing support and other guys and how they couldnt defeat him? Even Viola wanna do something now.
Seriously, I dont know if this is a blindness from fanboyzism or what, but I am quiting here.Because in most crews \ groups the captain\leaders are way about everyone else .
This really easy to see in one piece. -
No offence, but this guy has probably been posting on Youtube and has now moved to forums.
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lame chapter. I figured it would be just filler shit until the final page or two, but then the whole thing was filler. And this admiral is bipolar, don't let half the country die and then suddenly start carrying all of a sudden. Like was he scared of the cage too or did he just have a change of heart?
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None of those guys know about Doula's condition.
You can't use out-of-universe knowledge to blame their behaviors.
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Kyros couldn't. Would be even worse now with Doula using his Awakening.
And they're too away from Doula anyway. They don't have time to go after him.
good points, but zoro could probably beat him at full strength regardless.
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And one last thing.. Oda made a pretty big mistake inventing this Princess healing power. In a few chapters ago, we saw Mansherry NEXT TO Law and did nothing. Why's that? Simply because if Law get healed, Doffy would be defeated easily and Luffy would not received the glory. So, thats that. If a power like this had been used in a realistic-right way there would simply not have drama, and if the power its not used this is absolutely ridiculous.
Is there some One Piece fanboy to counter that? -_-ps: Sorry for my bad english.
ugh i can't even understand this guy his english is so bad
jk man your english is fine. Anyways, I totally agree. Law knew doffy was almost dead and could probably beat him fairly easily at full strength. Total plot hax move by Oda
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lame chapter. I figured it would be just filler shit until the final page or two, but then the whole thing was filler. And this admiral is bipolar, don't let half the country die and then suddenly start carrying all of a sudden. Like was he scared of the cage too or did he just have a change of heart?
Well half the country did not die lol
And he always care just in chapter 785 he was seen saving a child which 7 to 8 mins ago in OP time .
Now that people getting heal and everyone going to stop the cage he join in .
Other than beating don there not much else he can do . -
Except Rebecca, who's best left offscreen.
lol true. Also i think she might still district him for a min until luffys back.
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good points, but zoro could probably beat him at full strength regardless.
Don't start that please.
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Well half the country did not die lol
And he always care just in chapter 785 he was seen saving a child which 7 to 8 mins ago in OP time .
Now that people getting heal and everyone going to stop the cage he join in .
Other than beating don there not much else he can do .I think you are actually being serious and that's sad. You do realize that Dressrosa is a country and it's very likely that hundreds of people died. Anyone who was sleeping, hurt and couldn't move, distracted until it was too late for the people that were further away from the center? Oda didn't show it because he doesn't kill characters but there's no way a ton of people did not die. I think someone made a fantastic post explaining why he hasn't taken down Doflamingo himself but is allowing Luffy to do it and it seems like a very fair and plausible reason. The issue here is that he should have destroyed the cage a long time ago, and not destroying it now is even more silly. But you know, he saved that one kid so he clearly has done all that he should have done so far.
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The cage is shrinking so fast that it became a priority.
This, and they have no sure-fire guarantee the cage will stop if Doffy passes out or that they could defeat him before it kills too many people. There's also the fact that not everyone that could stand a chance against Doffy is aware Luffy needs to rest and that Doffy is injured.
It was a joke lol. Rebecca was finally going to do something, but as soon as she was Viola was like "nope!". People on here are so sensitive lol
You say lol a lot. Lol.
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It's a shounen manga, I don't think it's expected of anyone dying, as ridiculous as you may think it is. It's not supposed to be a gruesome situation where thousands of helpless people die, it's just a plot device to build wide-scale tension between the main character and main villian. Just this chapter we have Mansherry healing every wounded, elderly or incapacitated person to clearly show that despite the threat, no one was actually harmed/killed yet; a plot device that conveniently hasn't reached our main character. This is the exact same tense setting we got with Smily last arc, which didn't kill a single person despite 'petrifying' countless people.
It's not a bad thing that people aren't dying. You could certainly infer the events are killing people if it makes the situation more believable to you, but honestly you're just going to be setting yourself up for disappointment once the arc is over and everything is 'reset' to absolutely zero casualties, just like every arc before it. No names get hurt, but they don't get killed.
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You say lol a lot. Lol.
It's sorta like a way of making a serious post, by adding lol makes it look like you're chilled about it and not mad.
People are sensitive - meant harm, taken seriously.
People are sensitive lol - Taken not so seriously and meant no harm
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It's a shounen manga, I don't think it's expected of anyone dying, as ridiculous as you may think it is. It's not supposed to be a gruesome situation where thousands of helpless people die, it's just a plot device to build wide-scale tension between the main character and main villian. Just this chapter we have Mansherry healing every wounded, elderly or incapacitated person to clearly show that despite the threat, no one was actually harmed/killed yet; a plot device that conveniently hasn't reached our main character. This is the exact same tense setting we got with Smily last arc, which didn't kill a single person despite 'petrifying' countless people.
It's not a bad thing that people aren't dying. You could certainly infer the events are killing people if it makes the situation more believable to you, but honestly you're just going to be setting yourself up for disappointment once the arc is over and everything is 'reset' to absolutely zero casualties, just like every arc before it. No names get hurt, but they don't get killed.
I'm not saying we should see people dying. I'm saying that under normal pretense, they would. Saying something like well Fujitora saved some random child and did his best when many could have died by then is a pretty ridiculous comment to make. These convenient plot devices are so blatant, they easily take one out of the story. Oda has certainly had convenient plot devices like every other writer in other arcs, but they're not so in your face and as blatant.
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It was foreshadowed last chapter that people have to do stuff to stop the cage for one minute, what's the big surprise?
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the Birdcage is just ridiculous, Dofla could have litterally dropped it on the bay of Marineford, when the Whitebeard pirates showed up ,and they could have done nothing about it…
he doesn't even need to stay inside of it since he can simply make it pop out of a string clone, nullifying the only possible downside of that damn thing
I'm pretty sure the strongest man alive could've beaten it…
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If Oda actually kills off Viola(wouldn't happen) I guess we know which fruit Burgess would be going home with.
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I think you are actually being serious and that's sad. You do realize that Dressrosa is a country and it's very likely that hundreds of people died. Anyone who was sleeping, hurt and couldn't move, distracted until it was too late for the people that were further away from the center? Oda didn't show it because he doesn't kill characters but there's no way a ton of people did not die. I think someone made a fantastic post explaining why he hasn't taken down Doflamingo himself but is allowing Luffy to do it and it seems like a very fair and plausible reason. The issue here is that he should have destroyed the cage a long time ago, and not destroying it now is even more silly. But you know, he saved that one kid so he clearly has done all that he should have done so far.
Maybe to destroy the cage he would need to go all out, which would be dangerous to the people.
Really, every attack he has done so far ended up destroying his surroundings, from the meteors to the sideways gravity.
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I'm not saying we should see people dying. I'm saying that under normal pretense, they would. Saying something like well Fujitora saved some random child and did his best when many could have died by then is a pretty ridiculous comment to make. These convenient plot devices are so blatant, they easily take one out of the story. Oda has certainly had convenient plot devices like every other writer in other arcs, but they're not so in your face and as blatant.
I don't disagree with the sentiment, but it doesn't change the facts or the situation. I agree that it's hard to take at face value, and the tension is lost when something like value of life becomes absolutely predictable. Point is, the manga's never really had any real casualties shown which weren't already a part of history. From Alabasta to the current arc, we haven't really seen any realistic portrayal of events that caused widespread death. Even people shot by the Celestial Dragons and left for dead end up recovering.
As for being more blatant now than before, I can only say that this is absolutely subjective to the viewer. To me, it's always been blatant since I've only ever regarded this as a shounen manga and expected such. Death doesn't build tension, only the fear and threat of death does. I thought the Smily threat was just as blatant that no one was going to die, easily considered when there are children and 'good guy G5' in the arc. Did it build tension within the arc? It sure did! Did anyone really need to die to make it impactful? I don't think so, since death would only be consequential and not important to moving the story forward. What would we really get out of dead G5 members moving on from this in a Shounen manga? Neither Smoker nor the Strawhats would benefit from the weight of their deaths.
I don't see a reason for anyone to die in Dressrosa when they've already gone through hell. We don't need the burden of death to legitimize a threat that only lasts as long as the arc.
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I wonder who will be luffy next opponent. An emperor mabe. (Not yonko.) But mabe associated with one. Zoro will take on the shogun. Its unlikely they will face any body on zou. That is luffy and zoro. Recovery plus allies who will sail with them. And sanji and heart pirates have been there for à while. Smoker mabe, he should finally have all the freedom he wants, base comander and all. Finally having a fight with luffy. Anyways why is the discussion on if this manga has got it schmick? People watch anime, read manga religiously, participate in numerous forums on manga, one heck of devotion i tell ya, or not, yet call select people fanboys. Ararararaa. Thats cool. I speak for my self this manga is alright. I did not think so back in the early 2000's cause it sounded crappy in english version with sanji and his lollipop. But man 2011 i started from the beggining and its a masterpiece since. But if a rubberband man, who is not the sharpest tool around is not your thing thats cool.
Honestly the mods should open a thread called everything wrong with one piece….. let some people have a go. Not that im in anyway antagonozing critism. Its just a ridiculous read, this chapter has brought in lots of stuff into perspective but this negativity is gonna leave a negative flavour....... so in hind sight... in hind sight..... what are we talking?
Anybody seen sabinis? No post yet. Lots of people seem to be missing from this thread so far....
Viola should be able to beat mingo, just read that mind, who needs coo, she got something better, mabe. Viola best princess of op. Most cry rivers she cries whales. Most sit doing nothing but breathing, she takes her knife and takes on the joker. Oh the thrill if she kills him, imagine the bliss. Also who was her friend she told sanji about, a marine was it or some government person?
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I think you are actually being serious and that's sad. You do realize that Dressrosa is a country and it's very likely that hundreds of people died. Anyone who was sleeping, hurt and couldn't move, distracted until it was too late for the people that were further away from the center? Oda didn't show it because he doesn't kill characters but there's no way a ton of people did not die. I think someone made a fantastic post explaining why he hasn't taken down Doflamingo himself but is allowing Luffy to do it and it seems like a very fair and plausible reason. The issue here is that he should have destroyed the cage a long time ago, and not destroying it now is even more silly. But you know, he saved that one kid so he clearly has done all that he should have done so far.
Are you forgetting what manga this is? I promise you everyone in the country is going to be magically alive at the end of this.
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Maybe to destroy the cage he would need to go all out, which would be dangerous to the people.Really, every attack he has done so far ended up destroying his surroundings, from the meteors to the sideways gravity.
I'd loved to see him using the sideway gravity not against buildings but against the birdcage. As it will work on the strings it should affect them and the rubble.behind the cage. A try wouldn't hurt.
But he won't do it. If Oda makes fuji competent he will create a hole in the cage but that will erase the tension. So Oda has to make Fuji do less than what we would have expected from an admiral for his story to work. More and more i'm starting to believe that Doa made a mistake by introducing fuji in this arc. Whatever oda does now hurts something. His plot or some characters. -
What's the point of cutting the birdcage anyway ?
Last time I checked it takes 3 seconds to create one.
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