! > Mimasaka starts the whole copying thing because he wants to be accepted by his dad. But apparently he hurts his dad's pride by adding to one of his recipes and gets sent to Tootsuki, to get rid of him. Then, he gets scouted by Eizan.
Mimasaka is told to return all the tools to their rightful owners, except for Takumi, who says he's going to take it back himself eventually. Maybe Takumi doesn't need a tool, already being a huge tool himself.
Souma Implies he'll challenge Erina after 'one more win'. Good, finally some interaction between those two.
Hayama and the other guy enter the ring, meaning we're not wasting any time.
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Food Wars - It's In the Trash
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So one half-final is over and the other is about to begin. Who will win that one? I hope it's Ryou, so that we get some kind of dark Souma but for some reasons I doubt he gonna win the half-final.
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Hayama vs kurokiba match is up next, that last page looks really badass. I'm pretty confident that kurokiba is going to win this match
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I'm pretty confindent that I have no idea who will win that duel!
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Kurokiba ftw. And souma loosing the final, or at least having disgraced somehow. Theres gotta be a curveball waiting for him from aizen.
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Chapter is out.
I'm glad the worst case scenario was avoided regarding Takumi. I'm looking forward to his comeback.
As for the semifinal, I want Kurokiba to win. I think it's quite likely to happen.
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Great chapter. The spoilers made it sound like Takumi would beat Mimisaka to take back his knife, but it seems it is Soma he'll be challenging after all. I'm glad, since that means he'll get a chance to beat Soma at some point, which can act as growth for both characters and further their rivalry
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Kurokiba ftw. And souma loosing the final, or at least having disgraced somehow. Theres gotta be a curveball waiting for him from aizen.
Eizan was relying on Subaru. It's made pretty clear that he was the underling in question. That said, I could see Eizan offering to aid whoever wins the next match for the finals, but they'll probably refuse
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This is some near black-face level shit here [lips]. Subaru gets darker as he gets older / becomes more of the 'bad guy.' Of course the black dude steals from people. Relying on some lame tropes despite the redeeming ending.
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This is some near black-face level shit here [lips]. Subaru gets darker as he gets older / becomes more of the 'bad guy.' Of course the black dude steals from people. Relying on some lame tropes despite the redeeming ending.
Subaru's skin color looks exactly the same now as it does in the flashback, and all of his features are pretty much the same but aged up. Also, I don't think Japan has a more negative view of blacks than they do of any other foreigner. Japan's racism is basically everyone who isn't Japanese, since the population of Japan is super homogenous
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I am getting a "Hayama is gonna win this election" for some reason.
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So souma is not going to fight erina after the finals. Thats good news because I think erina is a couple level above him.
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erina only cares about those manga books :ninja:
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Italian Yamacha still fails.
Dark Skin Neji and Angry man duke it out. The law states that Dark Skin Neji will win. Let's see.
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Subaru got a decent flashback which salvages the match a bit for me.
Still the match had stupid stakes and Subaru's gimmick kind of didn't come into play that much really. Don't know there just wasn't any excitement for me.
Soma's philosophy is kind of nice and like Megumi and Nikumi pointed out it does contradict with him accepting such high stakes but what's even more noticeable is that it doesn't really fit with how Tootsuki operates. Many times when you lose you're just out.So yeah I guess you can stand up again and get success outside of Tootsuki but it doesn't change how it doesn't mesh well with each other. Still nice words to live by though. Coming out of this I did end up liking Subaru quite a bit despite not liking the match itself. As for Takumi well people already called this development last week, what really counts is what comes after.
Which is why I won't be celebrating with the "Takumi salvaged" group yet.
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Soma: "Hey Takumi, I got your knife back. Here you go"
Takumi: "Keep it, I don't need your charity. I'll win it back from you in our next match-up"It's nice to be right.
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This is some near black-face level shit here [lips]. Subaru gets darker as he gets older / becomes more of the 'bad guy.' Of course the black dude steals from people. Relying on some lame tropes despite the redeeming ending.
Uh…Subaru is japanese.
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Agree with DarthAsthma in that how Takumi wins against Soma/Subaru, if it ever happens, is probably more important for his character. This is a step in the right direction though. The match itself might have had no stakes since we knew Soma had to win, but I feel like Subaru was a pretty interesting character in his own right.
I'm curious to see where the story will go once Hayama wins the tournament (still sticking with this prediction).
Personally I'm less excited about the Hayama/Kurokiba match than I was for the Soma/Subaru match, but maybe something interesting will happen or their match will be more fun to watch than I'm giving it credit for, but still pretty doubtful.
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This is some near black-face level shit here [lips]. Subaru gets darker as he gets older / becomes more of the 'bad guy.' Of course the black dude steals from people. Relying on some lame tropes despite the redeeming ending.
Seriously? The lips are a really common drawing style that you can find almost anywhere in manga/anime and it has nothing to do with blackface. And yeah the dark guy is totally evil every time right? Tell that to Griffith/Guts, Light/L, and any number of other pairing that are exactly the opposite. Come on. It's like you just want to be offended.
I'm curious to see where the story will go once Hayama wins the tournament (still sticking with this prediction).
Hm, I also don't think Soma will win, but I sorta think Kurokiba will pull it out.
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Seriously? The lips are a really common drawing style that you can find almost anywhere in manga/anime and it has nothing to do with blackface. And yeah the dark guy is totally evil every time right? Tell that to Griffith/Guts, Light/L, and any number of other pairing that are exactly the opposite. Come on. It's like you just want to be offended.
Really? The lips are a "common" style? Even if you find it in other manga, the fact that it's the ONLY one in this context is what really matters. That's the point here. And I've read over 30 series at this point (admittedly primarily Shounen/Seinen) and can't name another example off the top of my head. This probably has to do with the generally low population of black people to base characters off of. I never said anything about the "dark guy is totally evil every time." In this context, Subaru is very clearly meant to be portrayed as black. The tropes are there whether like it or not. I'm not saying the author is explicitly racist–but what's there is, if not racist, playing heavily on stereotypes (regardless of the attempt to later subvert it). Trying to argue otherwise is either flat out stupidity or doing your damned best to turn a blind eye. Nobody "wants to be offended" -- this is the same type of bullshit argument as "oh that's just reverse racism." I made a very clear observation, which you seem to be refuting with whatever pops out of your ass first.
Another comment mentioned this deals more with Japan's general xenophobia, which is maybe true until you consider the vast difference in experience a black person experiences in Japan versus a white person. It's a joke that you can't be bothered to apply a critical eye to this.
Here's an example of blackface: http://static.tweentribune.com/uploads/imagecache/600/blackface_600_10-30-13.jpg
But, you know, go ahead and tell me drawing the parallel is "just looking to be offended."
And clearly he didn't get more black: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140609113426/shokugekinosoma/images/4/47/Subaru_Mimasaka_Profile.png
Clearly he's just Japanese – the same way everyone in America is just American! There's no race!
This is incredibly frustrating because manga rarely deals with anything aside from racially ambiguous mixes of white/Japanese people or one or the other. And here it does. And it really drops the ball.
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Lol "Subaru is meant to be portrayed as black" what does that even mean?
Call me stupid or ignorant but sorry I will probably never understand things like this. Like "black" is supposed to be some kind of characteristic expressing anything significant or carrying some kind of meaning? Feels so weird to me.Not that whatever you say is unwarranted but apparently the environment I grew up in makes concepts like these very alien to me because when I look at the Subaru character I would never describe him as a black character, mostly because black doesn't like tell me anything unlike words like misguided, father complex, neglected, deliquent, etc.
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I'm glad you grew up in an environment where you don't have to think about color. This, however, is at the root of most sets of privileges. Being the racial minority puts you in a position where, whether you want to or not, there will be times where your race comes into play. It is something to think about.
I guess the language you pulled out is unnecessarily verbose. You can condense it to "Subaru is a black character." In this context, he's portrayed as a thief, stalker, has the appearance of a gangster, given large lips, and is undoubtedly cast as the villain or antagonist. I don't think it should signify anything in a perfect world, but the reality of it is his portrayal here plays into many black stereotypes.
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I'm glad you grew up in an environment where you don't have to think about color. This, however, is at the root of most sets of privileges. Being the racial minority puts you in a position where, whether you want to or not, there will be times where your race comes into play. It is something to think about.
I guess the language you pulled out is unnecessarily verbose. You can condense it to "Subaru is a black character." In this context, he's portrayed as a thief, stalker, has the appearance of a gangster, given large lips, and is undoubtedly cast as the villain or antagonist. I don't think it should signify anything in a perfect world, but the reality of it is his portrayal here plays into many black stereotypes.Well as an Asian living in Germany(not even the more common or known kind like Chinese/Thai/Korean nor Japanese) so I think I can count myself to the minority.
I don't know man I don't want to deny that someone living a life of constant racial persecution wouldn't have every right to be very influenced by those experiences.I mean it's not that I lived in some heavenly bubble, I got the chinky eyes jokes, the kung fu ones the math and ping pong stereotypes, mostly when I was younger and still I certainly don't look at the world through that lens because I do think it's very weird. I mean it's especially because those stereotypes never fit me that I can't give much meaning to anyone saying he's "Asian" or stuff like that. There's no meaning to it for me, but then I also don't mesh well with people having their nationality as a big part of their identity.
I look at it more individually. Anyway the reason I just felt like barging in on the topic, ignoring things like if any perspectives on the matter are justified or not I do think at its core having that kind of attitude feels less then ideal. Especially a perspective that believes that thief, stalker, villain are inherent to someone having black skin… it doesn't feel like that's something that would help a situation like that. It feels somewhat messed up.
But then I can't speak for the world at large if that's still the common mindset on the issue but I can throw in that where I live and the people I deal with, that's not a thing here.So yeah don't know in conclusion maybe what you say makes a lot of sense to you but I don't think any perspective being very enstranged by that view(and arguably to no harm) on Subaru is wrong either. To people like me he's more defined by his father complex, by being a teenager and thus falling into stupid beliefs easily, etc.
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Really? The lips are a "common" style? And I've read over 30 series at this point (admittedly primarily Shounen/Seinen) and can't name another example off the top of my head.
Oh wow 30 series, you've really been around the block. Are you fucking kidding me? I can think of a ton off the top of my head from very popular shows:
Bakuman: http://bakuman.wikia.com/wiki/Akira_Hattori
Gurren Lagann: http://gurrenlagann.wikia.com/wiki/Aretenborough_Koachicchi Not good enough? Maybe you've heard of One Piece?
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Patty http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Jango http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/TonjitNo no, wait, those aren't important characters, how about:
ONE OF THE MOTHERFUCKING STRAWHATS. What forum are you on right now, Anbu?Oh wait, still not enough for you? Here's a list of FUCKING DOZENS:
http://www.anime-planet.com/characters/tags/sausage-lips?page=1Here's an example of blackface: http://static.tweentribune.com/uploads/imagecache/600/blackface_600_10-30-13.jpg
Dude I know what fucking black face is. Did you ever consider that maybe an AMERICAN theater tradition might not have the same social status or notoriety in JAPAN?
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Really? The lips are a "common" style? Even if you find it in other manga, the fact that it's the ONLY one in this context is what really matters. That's the point here. And I've read over 30 series at this point (admittedly primarily Shounen/Seinen) and can't name another example off the top of my head. This probably has to do with the generally low population of black people to base characters off of. I never said anything about the "dark guy is totally evil every time." In this context, Subaru is very clearly meant to be portrayed as black. The tropes are there whether like it or not. I'm not saying the author is explicitly racist–but what's there is, if not racist, playing heavily on stereotypes (regardless of the attempt to later subvert it). Trying to argue otherwise is either flat out stupidity or doing your damned best to turn a blind eye. Nobody "wants to be offended" -- this is the same type of bullshit argument as "oh that's just reverse racism." I made a very clear observation, which you seem to be refuting with whatever pops out of your ass first.
Another comment mentioned this deals more with Japan's general xenophobia, which is maybe true until you consider the vast difference in experience a black person experiences in Japan versus a white person. It's a joke that you can't be bothered to apply a critical eye to this.
Here's an example of blackface: http://static.tweentribune.com/uploads/imagecache/600/blackface_600_10-30-13.jpg
But, you know, go ahead and tell me drawing the parallel is "just looking to be offended."
And clearly he didn't get more black: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140609113426/shokugekinosoma/images/4/47/Subaru_Mimasaka_Profile.png
Clearly he's just Japanese – the same way everyone in America is just American! There's no race!
This is incredibly frustrating because manga rarely deals with anything aside from racially ambiguous mixes of white/Japanese people or one or the other. And here it does. And it really drops the ball.
You realize a lot of the racial stereotypes for black people from America aren't going to apply in Japan. And Subaru is Japanese as in the ethnicity (which is asian). And I'd say that stuff like black face in Japan takes on different connotations compared to America, because there are very few black people in Japan and a lot of the context is different. And that isn't his skin color. That's shadows, which is and has always been a common technique in creating atmosphere, especially in manga when you really only have black, gray and white. In general the black and white pictures of Subaru are no different in skin color to Soma or anyone else
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Here's a color image of Subaru. He's only slightly more tanned than Soma
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Of the small amount of pieces of Japanese media that I know of that contain black people, I'm having a hard time thinking of any that portrayed Blacks as thieves, gangsters, etc. I mean, Eyeshield 21 had a hilarious amount of stereotyping, but it was all neutral or positive stereotypes. Terraformer's portrayal of black people really doesn't differ significantly from whites (And no, the terraformars themselves aren't racist, they're cockroach neandrathals, not black people). SAO has a black guy who owns a bar and is a good guy. Honestly, most modern portrayals of blacks in manga that I can think of draw from popular hollywood blockbuster stereotypes (given that hollywood is pretty much the main source of exposure to black people for most Japanese people), and Hollywood is generally pretty scared of being labeled as super racist, at least as far as portraying all blacks as thieves and thugs
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I'll add my two cents and say that I thought Subaru was supposed to be of African decent due to the larger lips, the hair style and nose. But I didn't really think blackface. He's no Choco Love that's for sure.
At any rate. I'm fine with how this little side track ended. I just Aldini to be a revelant character. It's nice that he opted to not get the knife back through Soma's win. So I think that gives me hope he'll actually get a win. But it won't be a majorly important arc. Not sure what the stakes would be other than another Food Fight.
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There are Asians with darker skin colour. In China and Japan (at least), lighter skin is considered fairer and more attractive. This has nothing to do with Western culture.
Unless explicitly stated a character is probably 100% pure Japanese. This isn't just because Japan is pretty xenophobic (it is) but because Japan is almost completely Japanese. The majority of foreigners are either Korean or Chinese. This might represent 1% of their total population.
Subaru is Japanese. Anything else is just projection like how many readers think manga characters are Caucasian. They aren't, the default in Japan is Japanese. A Japanese person would see Subaru as Japanese. They wouldn't even consider the possibility that Subaru might be of a different nationality. If anything, he's an attempt to draw a non-pretty boy delinquent. Notice how all his features simply oppose those of the average pretty boy male character? Wide jaw instead of angular, thick lips instead of thin, muscular instead of lean. That's it, that's all.
I am not saying Africans are well portrayed in Japanese media. And the same holds true for Chinese, Caucasians, etc. They aren't. But this has nothing to do with Subaru.
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Oh wow 30 series, you've really been around the block. Are you fucking kidding me? I can think of a ton off the top of my head from very popular shows:
Bakuman: http://bakuman.wikia.com/wiki/Akira_Hattori
Gurren Lagann: http://gurrenlagann.wikia.com/wiki/Aretenborough_Koachicchi Not good enough? Maybe you've heard of One Piece?
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Patty http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Jango http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/TonjitNo no, wait, those aren't important characters, how about:
http://www.onepiece.com.au/content/characters/usopp.gif
ONE OF THE MOTHERFUCKING STRAWHATS. What forum are you on right now, Anbu?Oh wait, still not enough for you? Here's a list of FUCKING DOZENS:
http://www.anime-planet.com/characters/tags/sausage-lips?page=1Dude I know what fucking black face is. Did you ever consider that maybe an AMERICAN theater tradition might not have the same social status or notoriety in JAPAN?
So basically your argument is "oh man filthy casual." Congrats, though, on selectively responding to everything I've said.
And of course I thought about the differences. I've already talked about the difference between Japanese and American racial experiences – if only in brief. You might try reading the post before responding next time. The entire point is within the context of this manga, which you seem to conveniently ignore.
So yeah don't know in conclusion maybe what you say makes a lot of sense to you but I don't think any perspective being very enstranged by that view(and arguably to no harm) on Subaru is wrong either. To people like me he's more defined by his father complex, by being a teenager and thus falling into stupid beliefs easily, etc.'
I don't disagree with the latter point – like I said, I don't think the author is intentionally racist or anything. There's clearly an attempt at redemption and character development. I just don't think it approached it from the right angle. I also think it's important to analyze what's actually there.
Anyway, I'm not interested in arguing against "he's Japanese dur!" Whatever keeps you at ease.
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So basically your argument is "oh man filthy casual."
My argument is that it's a common drawing style. I've proved that by showing you how incredibly common it is. Furthermore I've shown how you somehow missed that one of the main characters of a manga you read has the very same lips you think are racist and yet you "can't name another example off the top of your head". So yes, I have indeed called your expertise on the subject into question, because you clearly have chosen to purposely ignore positive characters with those traits or you are an idiot who sees this "problem" only when you want to.
The entire point is within the context of this manga, which you seem to conveniently ignore.
"My argument works if you ignore all the relevant information that disproves it" lol what an idiotic claim
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Spoilers of ch 90, posted in mangahelpers:
! Chapter 90: Iron will, steel heart. That's a cool name.
In the center colour, Kurokiba gets some fire imagery and Hayama gets ice.
! Chapter shows both competitors preparing before the start: Hayama using a blindfold to train his sense of smell, Kurokiba doing physical training (how does that help with cooking?)
! Hayama starts preparing a duck, Kurokiba goes with eel.
! Chapter ends with Kurokiba taunting Hayama.
! Also, Souma goes up to Erina's VIP seat to chill out while Megumi and Nikumi watch on, frustrated.
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! Kurokiba doing physical training (how does that help with cooking?)
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! Any word on what the actual theme is?
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! Any word on what the actual theme is?
It's the same as the other match, a Western-style meal. Subaru mentioned it way back in chapter 80.
Wow, I looked up the chapter to make sure. I didn't realize the Soma/Subaru matchup lasted 10 chapters. That's about 1/9 of the story so far.
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Colour page of ch 90
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Spoilers of ch 90, posted in mangahelpers:
! Chapter 90: Iron will, steel heart. That's a cool name.
In the center colour, Kurokiba gets some fire imagery and Hayama gets ice.
! Chapter shows both competitors preparing before the start: Hayama using a blindfold to train his sense of smell, Kurokiba doing physical training (how does that help with cooking?)
! Hayama starts preparing a duck, Kurokiba goes with eel.
! Chapter ends with Kurokiba taunting Hayama.
! Also, Souma goes up to Erina's VIP seat to chill out while Megumi and Nikumi watch on, frustrated.
! And two pics:
! http://i.imgur.com/CxOHLHb.jpg
! http://i.imgur.com/CkfZFd2.jpg! seems a tad excessive to tie himself to a chair…unless there is something else going on. Maybe after school activities with Jun or something.
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Colour page of ch 90
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So sweet. Man I can't get enough of this artwork.
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Eru13 posted a summary for chapter 90.
! Shokugeki no Soma 90 - Iron Will, Heart of Steel
! We begin with a flashback of Akira's preparations.
It involves discerning spices on different plates just by smelling while being bound to a chair and blindfolded.
! Then we have a flashback of Ryou's preparations.
Alice goes searching around the Nakiri mansion for him only to find him in the middle of some pushups.
Alice ends up interrupting him cause he's sweaty and Ryou, mad at her, provokes her and it's insinuated they had a cooking challenge after that.
! We go back to the semi-final.
Gin reminds us that the theme is the same as for the Subaru vs Souma match, a "western-style main dish" and the cooking begins.
! Souma starts making some comments on the match only to be interrupted by Erina, he got in her room cause it was nearby and he took too much time after the match ended which pisses off Erina incredibly yet she cannot say this out loud.
The waifus notice this and aren't very happy about it.
! The audience notices Akira is perparing duck.
Taki makes some comments on how duck has a really characteristic taste and that the quality of the dish depends heavily on how well he uses that flavor.
! Gin begins a monologue on how a cook's palate is formed by experiencing many flavors and that having a good sense of smell helps double that comprehension.
He then makes some comments on how Akira's been in Tootsuki since first year of middle school and how he's expected to be the next of the first years to get in the Elite Ten.
! The audience makes some comments on how most of them expect Akira to win.
Souma asks for Erina's opinion on this.
Erina mentions she once had a class with Ryou and that his dish back then wasn't anything special and felt like he held back (which is why she got surprised after seeing how good he was in the preliminaries).
Alice arrives commenting on Erina's uselessness and proceeds to sit next to Souma. (Damn Souma, he's got a Nakiri on each side)
! Alice says that Ryou's cooking can't be explained just using logic.
! The audience notices Ryou is preparing eel.
After some comments from Souma about that being unexpected Erina comments eel isn't an ingredient exclusive of Japanese cuisine.
She later seems to have noticed what kind of dish Ryou wants to make.
! Erina mentions how unexpected it is for Alice to be talking Ryou with unscientifical terms.
Alice just mentions that the flavor of Ryou's dishes goes beyond all logic.
! We get a small flashback on Ryou's life back in the restaurant in Denmark.
! Alice mentions that Ryou survived in an environment where he would've been thrown away if deemed useless from the time he was 6.
She says this is the reason why he acquired absolute concentration towards flavor and a fighting spirit that makes him burn with passion.
She then comments that she's competed with Ryou on an almost daily basis and that he never holds back and comes trying to kill every time.
She also says that their score is almost even and that she's never been able to get a decisive advantage.
Alice ends her comments with an inner monologue on how Ryouis the one with the biggest attachment to winning competitions out of all the cooks in that hall.
! We get a scene of Ryou cutting the eel.
For this he uses a specialized knife Erina calls an eel knife.
! Gin compares this match to an eagle who's always flown high and a fierce tiger prepared to bite at the eagle's neck.
! Ryou mentions he doesn't like how Akira isn't passionate enough towards this match.
He then says that they're on a battlefield where only those prepared to win may stay.
Akira answers saying that he most likely has a weaker will to win compared to Ryou.
But he says the reason for that is that as long as he has his nose he feels losing against Ryou is actually tougher.
! Akira puts the duck breast meat in the oven.
We get a scene of him taking it out of the oven and saying it's perfect.
Akira makes a cool pose and the chapter ends.
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! So everyone expects Curry guy to win but Erina/Alice is hyping up Dark Soma. From the ending it looks like Curry guy is going to do the tasting first. Dark Soma Vs. Soma final it is.
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Japanese raw actually.
Anyway, awesome color page this week. Go Ryou !
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That training flashback of Ryou reminds me of Zoro for some reason. Heh, a cooking Zoro. XD
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Colour page of ch 90
Fire and Steam; which makes more sense than fire and ice.
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What is this one about and is it worth it?
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What is this one about and is it worth it?
You mean the series as a whole? It's awesome, read it
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You mean the series as a whole? It's awesome, read it
What an explanation and I'll give it a try then.
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What an explanation and I'll give it a try then.
It's a cooking series. Beginning is a bit fanservice heavy, but it gets better and fanservice is pretty equal opportunity. It's funny and interesting, and the art is fantastic
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What an explanation and I'll give it a try then.
You could literally go to any site that has it and they would give a summary. How are you too lazy to do that but are willing to put effort into making a comment?
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You could literally go to any site that has it and they would give a summary. How are you too lazy to do that but are willing to put effort into making a comment?
Because I want an answer from this place and I don't wanna go to a manga site and read it from there or because I wanted you to show up and call me lazy, which one is it, I don't know.
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What is this one about and is it worth it?
Nah this is the secret sibling of the Naruto and Bleach threads. We all actually hate this series and anyone praising it here is employing blatant sarcasm.
Anyone saying otherwise!
On a more serious note, it's hard to tell you if this series is "good" if we don't know anything about what you like.
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It's time to DU-DU-DU-DU-DUDUDUDU-DUEL!
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