I can totally picture bellamy joining the heart pirates. that makes the most sense to me.
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I can totally picture bellamy joining the heart pirates. that makes the most sense to me.
It would make a lot of sense.
But I would prefer to somebody like him who we seen as trash before time skip and who developed quite nicely over last 2 years to join Mugivaras.
Only thing for me is like not making me sure of Bellamy joining is fact that he is very serious pirate/ character now. Though maybe one serious male in crew would also fit?
I know that some people might bring Zoro here but I mean that we didnt seen even single one gag with Bellamy or quirk of any sorts.Your idea still probably makes most sense as it is now.
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We really need another kind of woman..i wouldn't mind a slutty one or a girl without any kind of restrain (like Kazehana of Sekirei or the main character of Kono Onee-san wa Fiction Desu!?).
A kind of girl that would completely break the image of the girls in this manga (they are all kind of..too serious).Nami is perfectly fine with flashing herself for money. Is that not "slutty" enough?
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The biggest issue with Bellamy becoming a strawhat is that he has no proffesion and is really just another male brawler whose DFs practical applications are rather similiar to the gomu gomu no mi.
On the other hand, Law has shown to be inviting thowards new members, and they share a bond as former doflamingo underlings who got fucked over. Bellamy joining the heart pirates would also further cement the friendship between the SHs and HPs, now that Bellamy and Luffy are ol buddies.
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Possible That Law and Bellamy Even have a Little backstory together, that would make the Things Even easier… We will See in the Next Chapters what Bellamys Part in this Arc is.
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Second possibility with some more development is Leo for me.
And now after discussion even as I taken Bellamy as candidate nr1 I see that Leo would be "fresher" and with a lot more gag and ability potential.
His ability has been shown just in glimpses and he would have plenty of potential ways to use it to help crew, but at same time he seems
to be a bit "shallow" character while Bellamy is at least developed to some degree while Leo has just "some" flashback and there was some hint to
his relation to princess.Both Leo and Bellamy can have some dream - Leo might want to find "ultimate garden" or some "godly plant" or something along those line as he
is Dwarfs and they are known for being best in world in that stuff. Might sound silly but we already have SH with "finding ultimate sea" dream for
example.As for Bellamy - his dream might be to become Great Pirate(person as well) or something that we have no idea of right now.
Another weird thing for me considering Bellamy is that Oda left in the open how strong he really is as he did well during his
block fight, was kicked around by Dellinger as he had broken resolve and now he is KOed just before Doflamingo.
So nobody knows where to put him really. I expect him to be fair bit stronger than even likes of Dellinger or at least around
his strength and that is quite a power.Rebbeca is a no go purely from point of a plot as she was forced to fight through her life and now she will be free from that,
beside all that her dream was to live in peace with her father on Dressrosa so she should have it after that arc, she is by no
means pirate material.Bartolomeo surely will join but not in this arc, his dream was to become SH and I dont think that Oda would use him as SH
even as awesomely amazing as he is right now and probably he has his own crew and ship now so he should be great support. -
for me, Bellamy has on this island by far the best backstory of all characters that possibly could Join… once a villain, was defeated from luffy, he then was also punished by Doffy.
Other OP-Characters would hate Luffy and would try to Hunt him down, but he thinks about his past, and Chooses to See if Luffy had right, and that Dreams and other Things are possible. He was Even going that far to sacrifice his Crew/Friends, but that was more of an accident because of the Alternative Travel to Skypia.
He brought back a Pillar of Gold for Doffy, because he knew he had made a mistake with Luffy and the Strawhats.
I don't understand all the hate for Bellamy, why he did Choose to kill Luffy... A few Good words are not enough, he Even became These from Doffy. After the Beating from Dellinger, he helped Luffy out of the Colosseum and Choose to Confront Doffy, not a bad idea i think. Thats a real believable Character Change over more then 2 years. Not Naruto Talk-no-Jutsu Bullshit...
Sorry for the bad english...
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What kinda got me one foot on the Bellamy train was what Doflamingo said about Bellamy becoming just a pirate implying that he didn't have a real reason to do so, but he might do now after awakening from his slumber
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Bellamy joining up with Law's crew would make sense tbh. He'd certainly fit right in. Bart would also fight right in with Kid's crew or the strawhats.
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Bellamy joining? What's gonna be his role in the crew…let me guess, a punching bag?
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I sure hope Bellamy isn't joining Law.
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There has to be a reason why Bellamy was introduced to Luffy years ago as enemy, now we see him again and it's another person, his history with Doflamingo.
While I don't like him, I think he stands better shots to join then Rebecca or Bartolomeo.
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It would make a lot of sense.
But I would prefer to somebody like him who we seen as trash before time skip and who developed quite nicely over last 2 years to join Mugivaras.
Only thing for me is like not making me sure of Bellamy joining is fact that he is very serious pirate/ character now. Though maybe one serious male in crew would also fit?
I know that some people might bring Zoro here but I mean that we didnt seen even single one gag with Bellamy or quirk of any sorts.Your idea still probably makes most sense as it is now.
Bellamy isn't completely serious as a character if you go and look back at his scenes in this arc and he still has an asshole personality.
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Bellamy joining? What's gonna be his role in the crew…let me guess, a punching bag?
Bellamy is just a minor character so he clearly isn't joining the strawhats.
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There has to be a reason why Bellamy was introduced to Luffy years ago as enemy, now we see him again and it's another person, his history with Doflamingo.
While I don't like him,I think he stands better shots to join then Rebecca or Bartolomeo.
Thats definitely wrong. lol.
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I can totally picture bellamy joining the heart pirates. that makes the most sense to me.
Agreed. He just doesn't belong on the strawhat's ship. The Heart Pirates is a more fitting crew for him.
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I sure hope Bellamy isn't joining Law.
Why not? From what we can tell Law's crew could use the extra manpower.
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Bellamy is just a minor character so he clearly isn't joining the strawhats.
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Thats definitely wrong. lol.
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Agreed. He just doesn't belong on the strawhat's ship. The Heart Pirates is a more fitting crew for him.
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Why not? From what we can tell Law's crew could use the extra manpower.
Bellamy isn't a minor character he's a former villain now turned side character with a relationship with Doflamingo and the main character, extra focus put on him this arc and he's been to Skypiea.
How do Rebecca and Bartolomeo have a better chance than him? Especially Bartolomeo.
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@redex who has a better chance than him?
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Bellamy joining? What's gonna be his role in the crew…let me guess, a punching bag?
What role does Zoro have in the crew? Navigator?
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Why not? From what we can tell Law's crew could use the extra manpower.
Because when a supernova get a new cremate I rather get the impression they just made a good addition to their crew. Which doesn't work with me when it comes to Bellamy. And I don't fell like sticking with him for another arc. Why Law need more fire power? It 's not like it's that common for a crew to have a lot of strong guys. And he may have got interesting cremates in the last 2 years.
But he might join the Barto club.
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What role does Zoro have in the crew? Navigator?
He's the Swordsman (which is as valid as Sniper), and the closest thing to a Vice-Captain.
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Zoro is the first mate (aka vice president or second in command), wich is just as valid as ship doctor or navigator. Its also a classic trope in pirate tradition/lore.
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uh oh first mate debate incoming
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What's wrong with Zoro being first mate anyway?
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@Lao:
What's wrong with Zoro being first mate anyway?
Nothing, but it was never explicitly told in the manga who's SH first mate.
BTW, does anyone have Aohige's quote about Urouge and Barto on the topic? Before anyone brings that up.
Edit: Found them.
And I'm a NATIVE Japanese speaker for nearly forty years.
Urouge said 二番手, literally, the "second one", number two. second place. etc.
cnet CHOSE to interpret that as "first mate", since that is the second-in-command to a captain.
But he's making an ASSUMPTION, not a translation.The assumption may be correct, but it's not what's being said.
Do you understand? Or do you doubt my words too.
Chapter 723 Change of plans
Caribou swallowed the factory whole. The revolutionaries cheers at the "Gaburu the hero"Sanji says he should be the one to save Nami, I mean I know she'd want me to be the one to save her!
Zoro lets him. Sanji hands Kinemon a map to the Toy's house where his comrade should be, and denden mushi to contact everyone once they find Luffy.Kin and Zoro stands at the gate of the Colosseum, wondering how to get in.
Zoro wants to just slice the gate open, which Kin stops.
Bartolomeo watches Zoro, crying in joy to see one of his heroes there.
He calls Zoro the right-hand man of Luffy, and a firstmate (at least to him he is)Meanwhile at the palace…
Gladius is shaking himself in anger over the betrayal of Violet.
The original plan to capture Sanji and gain intel on their plan has been ruined.
Baby 5 tells him to calm down before he explodes, as Gladius' silk hat expands like a baloon.The hat bursts, revealing Vegeta…. I mean Super Saiyan 2 Goku.... I mean
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What's wrong with Zoro being first mate anyway?
A hierarchy within the crew would ruin the idea of a bunch of friends going on a adventure. Zoro might fill a part of the job description in a "spiritual" sense, and he IS regarded as the second in command by people outside of the crew (due to his bounty and fame), but that's it. Oda will never, ever establish an order of command within the Straw Hats, unless he wants to piss on everything he built up for over a decade.
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A hierarchy within the crew would ruin the idea of a bunch of friends going on a adventure. Zoro might fill a part of the job description in a "spiritual" sense, and he IS regarded as the second in command by people outside of the crew (due to his bounty and fame), but that's it. Oda will never, ever establish an order of command within the Straw Hats, unless he wants to piss on everything he built up for over a decade.
Didn't Zoro already said fuck it that that principle when he forced Usopp to apologize because Luffy is the captain and you don't question the captain?
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Oh a Zoro = first mate discussion. Nice
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Oh a Zoro = first mate discussion. Nice
Maybe people won't be in the mood for it when they wake up.
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Zoro is the first mate imo, it's just never stated. Oda blatantly toys with the readers with it at times, most recently through Bartolomeo, or through Zoro's similarities with Rayleigh and Benn Beckman.
Either way , I think the rotten taste people get from Zoro = First Mate idea is that the 4kids dub was flatout calling him that when he and Luffy first got together which is just one of their many mistakes with that dubbing of the series. cringes
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I know its a touchy subject. I asked on another forum and people got mad lol. I mean i thought it just went without saying. I think he meets all the criteria. Hes either swordsman/1st name/combatant. None of the Straw hat roles are really cut and dry.
anyway. I think Momonsuke has a legit change to join. He'd be kinda useless though
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I know its a touchy subject. I asked on another forum and people got mad lol. I mean i thought it just went without saying. I think he meets all the criteria. Hes either swordsman/1st name/combatant. None of the Straw hat roles are really cut and dry.
anyway. I think Momonsuke has a legit change to join. He'd be kinda useless though
He got hired for his strength so I would say fighter.
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No, no, Zoro is the "Second Capitan". This means that if Luffy orders a Pirate Orgy (thus becoming 'El Capitan' for the remainder of the event), Zoro will fill in for him if he should pass out drunk or otherwise be incapacitated. All of this was discussed ages ago, but the relevant thread is around here somewhere…probably.
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Zoro is obviously the first mate. You know, the first boyfriend that Luffy had.
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Obviously, the next person to join the Straw Hats is the nameless three-eyed girl from the Big Mom Pirates.
Not really, but anyways, IF we get a new Straw Hat after this arc, I'd have a little something to say about the candidates.
Bartolomeo (depending on what's up with the Barto Club.)
Violet (biggest downside I would say is her appearance. She's more of a big breasted Robin with an interesting power. Everyone on the crew has looked distinctly different from everyone else.)
Bellamy (but I also think he fits better as a Heart Pirate.)
Kanjuro (I'd say he'd join before Kinemon or Momo because while they have a bond he is more on his own.)
Kinemon and Momo (if one comes, I believe they both will. But the most I see from them is just sticking with the Straw Hats until they're done with what they mean to do.)
Rebecca (biggest thing against her is not just her crown, but the fact that she won't really fight, and the thing with Diamante hurt her chances.)
Jean Ango (cuh he haz a cacts hat.)I'd also be interested in Baby 5, but there's nothing really to suggest her as a candidate.
Doesn't necessarily mean anything, since Robin kind of caught us off guard, but yeah./inb4 Bonney shows up and joins before anyone gets a chance to
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Baby 5… now that is a girl I would LOVE in the crew. Sadly it is impossible, but her personality and powers are exactly what I would want for the last female SH.
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@Maikeru:
Obviously, the next person to join the Straw Hats is the nameless three-eyed girl from the Big Mom Pirates.
Wait, Three-Eyed's hair isn't lavender? God damn it, ruined. She was my long-term wish.
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Baby 5… now that is a girl I would LOVE in the crew. Sadly it is impossible, but her personality and powers are exactly what I would want for the last female SH.
She's one of those rare cases of non-candidates being more candidate material than actual candidates.
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I'm wondering how the allied crews will be handled. Luffy got the Happou Navy (which I'm gessing will provide lots of nameless fodder which the Strawhats lack) and Usopp got the colosseum fighters that allied with Luffy by proxy. I'm gessing most allies will stay in the strawhats' territories (whatever islands they pass through) and return for the final arc, similar to Whitebeard's allies during the war.
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She's one of those rare cases of non-candidates being more candidate material than actual candidates.
Yeah.
Kinda like kaku.
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She's one of those rare cases of non-candidates being more candidate material than actual candidates.
Or maybe she is just boobsandguns.
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Rockstar is Rockstar a guy who delivered a message to WB from Shanks, I dont see whats the big resemblance.
@Light:
Uh… what exactly does that mean? Also Barty ain't joining because OP barriers!
then you guys don't remember Rockstar.
A super rookie, very confident, proud to be a 'Red Hair', and willing to fight for his Crews honor. Defended Shanks against Whitebeard, even wished to fight, when most Pirates would have pissed their pants. Plus crazy hair.
If Barto could cool down to around that level, he's gonna Nakama.
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then you guys don't remember Rockstar.
A super rookie, very confident, proud to be a 'Red Hair', and willing to fight for his Crews honor. Defended Shanks against Whitebeard, even wished to fight, when most Pirates would have pissed their pants. Plus crazy hair.
If Barto could cool down to around that level, he's gonna Nakama.
Yes I remember Rockstar, but Barty won't still join. I do like the guy and all but his DF is too overpowered. That alone stands for a reason.
Seriously tough I have to constantly repeat the same arguments over and over…
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then you guys don't remember Rockstar.
A super rookie, very confident, proud to be a 'Red Hair', and willing to fight for his Crews honor. Defended Shanks against Whitebeard, even wished to fight, when most Pirates would have pissed their pants. Plus crazy hair.
If Barto could cool down to around that level, he's gonna Nakama.
I remember rockstar, you are just imagining him being more than he is(or was shownt o be atleast), any loyal pirate would defend his crew, do you think Sanji for example would back down from WB instead of defending Luffy's honor?
Also since when is is a "super rookie" I've that years ago but I dont remember anything.
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Rockstar was an up and coming that joined the red hair pirates, but he wasn't a "super rookie" cause he bounty was just 94,000,000.
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I remember rockstar, you are just imagining him being more than he is(or was shownt o be atleast), any loyal pirate would defend his crew, do you think Sanji for example would back down from WB instead of defending Luffy's honor?
Also since when is is a "super rookie" I've that years ago but I dont remember anything.
I could be mixing up the anime and Manga, it's been a while.
But I doubt Nami would defend for Luffy, get what I mean? I don't think the whole crew would either, as Robin said they bet everything on Luffy. It would be Luffys battle really, and they would hold off as long as possible till Luffy showed in such a hypothetical.
Rockstar was quite confident he could even beat Whitebeard from what I can remember, and I doubt Sanji would think that.
That sort of delusion is right in line with Barto, who threw himself in front of an explosion for Luffy. Again not something I imagine many crew members doing.
I'm not gonna argue semantics on what "Super Rookie" is, he had close to 100 mill bounty and that's close enough for me.
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@Light:
Yes I remember Rockstar, but Barty won't still join. I do like the guy and all but his DF is too overpowered. That alone stands for a reason.
Seriously tough I have to constantly repeat the same arguments over and over…
The Pirate King won't have overpowered Nakama?
Makes zero sense. I can think of much better arguments against his joining.
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The Pirate King won't have overpowered Nakama?
Makes zero sense. I can think of much better arguments against his joining.
The problem is that his barriers can block pretty much anything. How are you supposed to have interesting fights with something like that?
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@Light:
The problem is that his barriers can block pretty much anything. How are you supposed to have interesting fights with something like that?
Ehh Bartolomeo himself said that he can do jack shit against Picas punch… So everyone screamed for Zoro instead
Bellamy got a grab on him somehow as well.
And we never have seen some with CoA attacking him
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@Light:
The problem is that his barriers can block pretty much anything. How are you supposed to have interesting fights with something like that?
We are yet to see extent of Bartolomeos power. His power till now was shown mostly as protection but I am sure he has quite a number of offensive uses for his DF ability.
He should get an awesome one on one against Gladius during this arc imo.Btw proof for Bellamy being stronger than Dellinger was that Dellinger pretty much could not do anything againts Bartolomeo while Bellamy was shown to be able to get a hold of Bartolomeo.
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Ehh Bartolomeo himself said that he can do jack shit against Picas punch… So everyone screamed for Zoro instead
Oh okay then. But even then it is pretty damn hax. Too hax for a Strawhat. He's better off as an ally.
Bellamy got a grab on him somehow as well.
Btw proof for Bellamy being stronger than Dellinger was that Dellinger pretty much could not do anything againts Bartolomeo while Bellamy was shown to be able to get a hold of Bartolomeo.
I think that in straight up fight Dellinger, same as Bellamy would loose to Bartolomeo.The wiki suggested that Bellamy could grab him because he didn't try to strike him with force. It didn't necessarily have nothing to do with strength.