Turn 9
Roll - 667 - Haki
Haki Roll - 598 - Kenbunshoku!
Pirate
1. Shichibukai Captain Alligator Lvl. 50
2. Crane Lvl. 20
3. Victoria Lee Lvl. 20
4. Ricco "The Wind" Lvl. 17
5. Sharpshooter Lily Lvl. 13
6. Big Norman Watts Lvl. 5
Alligator Pirates Lvl. 125
Bounty - 125,000,000
Shichibukai
East Blue
Kenbunshoku Haki
We're definitely reaching a point where a lot of the game mechanics are breaking down. I'm thinking it might be time to devote more time to discussion on how the current game mechanics work and whether they need to to be tinkered with and/or overhauled in preparation for a hard reset. Some things I think should be thought about:
-Roll requirements and how they should scale through the game.
-Balancing positive vs negative consequences. This one is important because it ties into the problem with limited devil fruits.
-Balancing promotion abilities, which is already being discussed.
I will write up another post in a bit with my thoughts on the topics.
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Hello guys, another big announcement here. I think we are rapidly approaching reset time, where we start a brand new game in a brand new thread, with all the revised rules and brand new Devil Fruits and all that awesomeness. I know it might be unfair for people who have gained big statuses like Shichibukai or Vice Admiral, but I'm sure you'll get there again, and with the new rules, quicker than it took the first time.
HOWEVER, before we make that reset, I'd like us to finalize a couple of things. Please, feel free to continue playing in the meantime.
Change 1: Devil Fruits
I will be looking through the list of Devil Fruits and making any adjustments necessary, particularly adding new ones! I want to add as many as possible, over a hundred if possible, so that we never run out. So, guys, please, create new Devil Fruits or use ones from the manga that I haven't already and come up with new abilities! More powerful Devil Fruits will have lower roll chances, while regular devil fruits will be much more common.
Change 2: Promotions!
Now, this is the meat of the game. This is what all players should strive for, since people who are Admirals and Yonkou and the like really effect the late game. I think Pinelark brought up great points in some unbalances.
One thing I've noticed is that marines (with no promotions) only have to fight pirates (with no promotions), but pirates (with no promotions) have to battle strong Shichibukai AND strong Vice Admirals AND other regular pirates. Basically, pirates have it really rough from the get go. The only thing marines (with no promotions) have to worry about is Yonkous, and thats it, while pirates have to worry about EVERYTHING.
A fix to this is to change the rules so that marines can only fight pirates, and pirates can only fight marines. This would mean we would have to change the rule so that Shichibukai could still fight marines, but that's no big deal. In the end, it would make it more balanced. Pirates would have to worry about Vice Admirals and Admirals, and marines would have to worry about Shichibukai and Yonkou.
With that in mind, here are my new changes:
Shichibukai:
Requirements: Main character must be at least level 100.
1. In all battles, double your main character's level.
Vice Admiral:
Requirements: Main character must be at level 100.
1. Gain a Shichibukai's main character level for PVP battles.
Yonkou:
Requirements: Must be in an alliance, and total crew level must be at least 1000.
1. Can have 3 alliances.
Admiral:
Requirements: Must be in an alliance, and total crew level must be at least 1000.
1. In PVP, add the top 3 Shichibukai captain's level to your total level.
As you can see above, all Promotions have the same requirements and a similar bonus. I'd love to make it more complex, but it becomes more difficult to keep things balanced. For example, I'd like to have it so Shichibukai can't have alliances, but if I did, I'd have to give Vice Admiral's a negative trait too, but I can't think of one that would make sense and keep things reasonable.
HOWEVER, if you have ideas, please let me know. I'd love to hear what you have to say before we make these big changes.
Change 3: Set Sail
This is the final big change. As it is now, you can only move on to new seas by rolling Set Sail, which, although I've increased the chances, is still pretty rare. Therefore, I'm introducing a new way to move onto other seas:
You can roll to Set Sail WHENEVER YOU LIKE. You no longer have to depend on rolling it. Rolling Set Sail counts as a turn, however, and all the requirements to move onto the next sea still must be fulfilled.
So, if you think your crew is ready for the Grand Line, feel free to roll. Make sure you follow the requirements though, so you'll need a character with a level of 100 or more AND your roll plus your crew's total level will have to be at least 500.
This will really help characters move through the Grand Line at a more consistent rate. No longer will we have 3 marines sitting in the Grand Line with no one to PVP.
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To summarize: More Devil Fruits, Changes to Promotions, Easier way to Set Sail.
Let me know what you guys think, and in the meantime, I'll work on some new Devil Fruits. Thanks!
Hello guys, another big announcement here. I think we are rapidly approaching reset time, where we start a brand new game in a brand new thread, with all the revised rules and brand new Devil Fruits and all that awesomeness. I know it might be unfair for people who have gained big statuses like Shichibukai or Vice Admiral, but I'm sure you'll get there again, and with the new rules, quicker than it took the first time.
HOWEVER, before we make that reset, I'd like us to finalize a couple of things. Please, feel free to continue playing in the meantime.
Change 1: Devil Fruits
I will be looking through the list of Devil Fruits and making any adjustments necessary, particularly adding new ones! I want to add as many as possible, over a hundred if possible, so that we never run out. So, guys, please, create new Devil Fruits or use ones from the manga that I haven't already and come up with new abilities! More powerful Devil Fruits will have lower roll chances, while regular devil fruits will be much more common.Change 2: Promotions!
Now, this is the meat of the game. This is what all players should strive for, since people who are Admirals and Yonkou and the like really effect the late game. I think Pinelark brought up great points in some unbalances.One thing I've noticed is that marines (with no promotions) only have to fight pirates (with no promotions), but pirates (with no promotions) have to battle strong Shichibukai AND strong Vice Admirals AND other regular pirates. Basically, pirates have it really rough from the get go. The only thing marines (with no promotions) have to worry about is Yonkous, and thats it, while pirates have to worry about EVERYTHING.
A fix to this is to change the rules so that marines can only fight pirates, and pirates can only fight marines. This would mean we would have to change the rule so that Shichibukai could still fight marines, but that's no big deal. In the end, it would make it more balanced. Pirates would have to worry about Vice Admirals and Admirals, and marines would have to worry about Shichibukai and Yonkou.
With that in mind, here are my new changes:
Shichibukai:
Requirements: Main character must be at least level 100.
1. In all battles, double your main character's level.Vice Admiral:
Requirements: Main character must be at level 100.
1. Gain a Shichibukai's main character level for PVP battles.Yonkou:
Requirements: Must be in an alliance, and total crew level must be at least 1000.
1. Can have 3 alliances.Admiral:
Requirements: Must be in an alliance, and total crew level must be at least 1000.
1. In PVP, add the top 3 Shichibukai captain's level to your total level.As you can see above, all Promotions have the same requirements and a similar bonus. I'd love to make it more complex, but it becomes more difficult to keep things balanced. For example, I'd like to have it so Shichibukai can't have alliances, but if I did, I'd have to give Vice Admiral's a negative trait too, but I can't think of one that would make sense and keep things reasonable.
HOWEVER, if you have ideas, please let me know. I'd love to hear what you have to say before we make these big changes.
Change 3: Set Sail
This is the final big change. As it is now, you can only move on to new seas by rolling Set Sail, which, although I've increased the chances, is still pretty rare. Therefore, I'm introducing a new way to move onto other seas:
You can roll to Set Sail WHENEVER YOU LIKE. You no longer have to depend on rolling it. Rolling Set Sail counts as a turn, however, and all the requirements to move onto the next sea still must be fulfilled.
So, if you think your crew is ready for the Grand Line, feel free to roll. Make sure you follow the requirements though, so you'll need a character with a level of 100 or more AND your roll plus your crew's total level will have to be at least 500.
This will really help characters move through the Grand Line at a more consistent rate. No longer will we have 3 marines sitting in the Grand Line with no one to PVP.
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To summarize: More Devil Fruits, Changes to Promotions, Easier way to Set Sail.
Let me know what you guys think, and in the meantime, I'll work on some new Devil Fruits. Thanks!
Sounds good to me. Make sure you add my awesome devil fruits :P I'll add some more when I got some spare time. I need to find some Zoan and Logia ones! But good patch update i think :) Can't wait.
P.s with devil fruits, can you choose to eat it or keep hold of it? That way if someone else picks one you really want. You can trade them for it. (I want Yami Yami no mi again for Zaheen :P)
Happening Roll: 440
PVE Time!
Area Roll: 939
Sea King attack!
I assume you mean if the roll is under 700, not 70, right?
Anyway, Roll: 854
Phew!
Marine Captain Sudoku: lvl 25 –> lvl 35
Ali James: lvl 21 --> lvl 34
Lizardman McGee: lvl 21 --> lvl 33
Total Level: 102
Haki: Busoshoku
Sea: East Blue
Jex, I'd have happily fought you anyway. I'd have lost, but I'd have fought you.
Sounds good, but I don't really like the Shichibukai thing for Vice Admirals and Admirals.
It means you have to keep track of everything others do, since there's no list with levels.
Everything else seems pretty good.
I have another suggestion though, that may be a bit much:
Have different play cards, one for each sea, so that each sea will really feel different.
Maybe an option to go back to seas you've already been to?(Add something unique to each sea, so there's a reason to go everywhere) How about an option to visit certain islands (changes depanding on current sea) and getting levels or something else?
Also like I've said in the past I think an option to go from a marine to a pirate or vice versa could be cool. Should be optional though.
Turn #56 first one for the day
Happening Roll: 955-PVP, can only battle Hito but his last play for a PVP so I'll reroll/220-recruit
Marine Crew:
1)Vice-Admiral Mr. Me LV. 300 Suna Suna no Mi (when rolling PVP choose to proceed or reroll)
2)Mahr ingrant fri LV. 100 Buki Buki no Mi (add +50 points to battles)
3)Lecturer Cox LV. 100 Gomu Gomu no Mi (add +50 points to battles)
4)Layf Endef LV. 100
5)Cabin Boy June lvl 30 Doa Doa no Mi (cannot be affected negatively by losing in PVE or ambush)
6)Darril Traubel LV. 100 Awa Awa no Mi(Characters cannot be injured)
7)Senor Woodscock LV. 7
8)Mahr ingrant wan LV. 5
9)Ms. Destruction LV. 5
10)Mahr ingrant tu LV. 4
11)Lon'qu LV. 25
12)Vaike LV. 25
13)Jill LV. 25
14)Midsis LV. 25
15)Johaness the Swordsman LV. 30
16)Ms. Me? LV. 95
17)DooDooDude Menchan LV. 25
18)Another one bites the dust LV. 25
Crew Level: 1031 (+100)
Alliance: Jex LV. 612
Shichibukai: Pinelark LV. 462
Sea: Grand Line
I think a few things still need to be adjusted.
Current percentages for rolls:
! Recruit - 200/999 - 20%
PVE - 200/999 - 20%
PVP - 150/999 - 15%
Ambush - 50/999 - 5%
Training - 50/999 - 5%
Haki - 50/999 - 5%
Alliance - 100/999 - 10%
ID - 100/999 - 10%
DF - 30/999 - 3%
Set Sail - 35/999 - 3.5%
Promotions - 34/999 - 3.4%
Total - 999/999
Recruit:
! As it is, rolling recruit is far too common, and given the new game mechanics, where its less likely to go to ID, lowering it wouldn't become detrimental to the players.
Therefore, I suggest that Recruit is lowered 5%, from 20% to 15%.
PVP: Increased 2%, see Set Sail.
PVE: Should remain as is, but all third tier choices (701-900) should target the weakest DF user. If no DF user is present, then the weakest character is injured.
Ambush:
! 1. As it is now, ID is generally empty and while it shouldn't be full, its pretty much just a reroll. The addition 5%, which was taken from Recruit, should be placed here, which will increase Ambush from 5% to 10%.
The reason for this is because losing an Ambush is the only way to guarentee that someone goes to ID.
2. Seeing how ambush doesn't scale with levels, positions or seas, the chance of victory should be soley luck based; nothing should count but the roll. Factoring in levels makes it difficult TO LOSE in the midgame, and towards the end it becomes nearly impossible, making it a free 20 levels.
Training:
! Training is great early on, however, its a wasted roll later when levels get high.
Therefore, I suggest that Training gives 10% of your crew's total levels (rounded down*), with a minimun of ten levels given.
*Essentially its how many tens can go into the crew's total level.
Ex.
If a crew's total is 118, then training rewards 11 levels.
If a crew's total levels is 456, then training rewards 45 levels.
Meh, on second thought 10% might be too much, so maybe add a maximum of 50.
Changing it would keep it relevant, and its rarity prevents it being rolled too much.
Haki: Should remain as is.
Impel Down:
! Even if ambushed is increased, and the game mechanics change (see below), I don't think ID will fill up often enough, and will end up being a reroll.
Therefore, to prevent it from becoming a wasted roll and to make up for the lowered recruit percentages, I think this roll should grant a crewmate if ID is empty.
Any NEW crewmate would joined injured for 5 turns, whereas those taken from Impel Down aren't injured.
The text could say something about breaking someone out of the local prison, similarily to how Luffy saved Zoro.
Devil Fruit: The lowered percentages will, hopefully, prevent them from being taken at such a fast rate.
Set Sail:
! This is being removed? Kinda defeats the purpose because when your crew become strong enough you can go straight to Raftel in three (four?) turns.
I would suggest to have a minimum to qualify (strength based), but additional criteria (not strength based) in order to proceed. I'd also add a turn limit (once a day) to prevent people from getting stuck in a loop.
As for the 3.5%, it should be placed in both recruit and PVP.
Promotion: Lowered slightly. I have a few other suggestions, but I'll handle it a different time.
Final Roll Percentage based on my suggestions:
! Recruit - 17%
PVE - 20%
PVP - 17%
Ambush - 10%
Training - 5%
Haki - 5%
Alliance - 10%
ID - 10%
DF - 3%
Promotions - 3%
Game mechanics:
! @OmerMe:
! > Also, why not have both? so ways to get into ID:
1)PVP and your enemy's initial roll is higher than yours by at least 500
2)Lose against someone when your weakest character is already injured
3)Lose an ambush
! This.
Ok, I was gonna write up a post with ideas (probably still will a little later today), but I really like most of the changes Mr. Obvious has proposed. Definitely things to be considered.
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Yeah so i think some of these changes are good. I do like that you don't have to roll set sail and rather it's a level requirements although i was thinking promotion should also have requirements for vice admiral and schichibukai. Like you must have gotten haki at least once or need at least 5 people in your crew. Something like that. And the easiest ways to make devil fruits rarer is by having it so you roll a specific number rather than between 2 numbers. You could basically have it so any hundred number is a devil fruit and that means you have 9 chances of getting it. Maybe that is to rare but it's a thought.
I do like the training % thing although i still think 10 for your captain is good. and then a % of the total level of the rest of your crew for what you distribute.
Turn #48 - first of the day
Marine Squad Goldfish
Vice Admiral Jex (Hito Hito no Mi, Model Daibuts = in a pvp the enemies two weakest fighters can't take part) = lvl 210
Telemachus, of Light (Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model Bison) = lvl 90
1st mate Silva (Supa-Supa no mi: add +10 points in battle to the lvl of each nakama) = lvl 75
Brian the Bear = lvl 75
Jodie Joestar = lvl 60
Obligatory Rival Shadow (Tori Tori no Mi, Model Falcon: +30 in a PVE/Ambush. Auto win Sky island) = lvl 50
Klaire (Yomi Yomi no Mi) = lvl 48
lil' bro max = lvl 40
Mystery Man Charlie = lvl 25
Crew Level = 667 (+90)
alliance: OmerMe: 1006
Sea: Grand Line
Happening: 629 a PVE. 383 pirate attack. 309 + 667 is over 700 so i win. 20 levels for my crew.
Vice Admiral Jex (Hito Hito no Mi, Model Daibuts = in a pvp the enemies two weakest fighters can't take part) = lvl 210>220
Jodie Joestar = lvl 60>63
Klaire (Yomi Yomi no Mi) = lvl 48>50
Mystery Man Charlie = lvl 25>30
Crew Level = 687 (+90)
Turn #25
Marine Squad Beautiful Duwang Vice-Admiral Josuke Higashikata - Level 101 (Neko Neko no Mi: Leopard)
Marine TheParfait - Level 55 (Bara Bara no Mi)
Marine Whamu!Whamu!- Level 33
Marine EvilFace>EvilWatch - Level 25
Marine AriAriAriArriverdeci - Level 20
Crew Level - 234
Alliance: Vice-Admiral Lynn Wenright + 188.5
Sea- East Blue
Special condition- I can reroll everything once outside of PvP´s and the Happening decide roll (Bara Bara); I get half of a Shichibukai level in battle (because i´m a vice-admiral); Josuke can get + 200 in pvp with the penalization of not participating in the next battle.
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Marine Squad Beautiful Duwang Vice-Admiral Josuke Higashikata - Level 101 (Neko Neko no Mi: Leopard)
Marine TheParfait - Level 55 (Bara Bara no Mi)
Marine Whamu!Whamu!- Level 33
Marine EvilFace>EvilWatch - Level 25
Marine AriAriAriArriverdeci - Level 20
Crew Level - 234
Alliance: Vice-Admiral Lynn Wenright + 326
Sea- East Blue
Special condition- I can reroll everything once outside of PvP´s and the Happening decide roll (Bara Bara); I get half of a Shichibukai level in battle (because i´m a vice-admiral); Josuke can get + 200 in pvp with the penalization of not participating in the next battle; Kenbushoku Haki for next battle.
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Turn #26
Marine Squad Beautiful Duwang Vice-Admiral Josuke Higashikata - Level 101 (Neko Neko no Mi: Leopard)
Marine TheParfait - Level 55 (Bara Bara no Mi)
Marine Whamu!Whamu!- Level 33
Marine EvilFace>EvilWatch - Level 25
Marine AriAriAriArriverdeci - Level 20
Marine Squad Beautiful Duwang Vice-Admiral Josuke Higashikata - Level 101 (Neko Neko no Mi: Leopard)
Marine TheParfait - Level 55 (Bara Bara no Mi)
Marine Whamu!Whamu!- Level 33
Marine EvilFace>EvilWatch - Level 25
Marine AriAriAriArriverdeci - Level 20
Marine ReroRero - Level 25
Crew Level - 259
Alliance: Vice-Admiral Lynn Wenright + 326
Sea- East Blue
Special condition- I can reroll everything once outside of PvP´s and the Happening decide roll (Bara Bara); I get half of a Shichibukai level in battle (because i´m a vice-admiral); Josuke can get + 200
Turn 43:
Happening Roll: 826 - PVE
Roll #1: 211 - Bandits
Roll #2: Auto-win
+10 Levels
Marine Captain Obvious: LVL 214
Lieutenant Renji: LVL 85 (Sara Sara No Mi, Model: Axolotl, +40 in any battle) +5
Officer Jenny: LVL 48
Doctor Leorio: LVL 30
DIO!: LVL 10
2nd Lieutenant Riza Hawkeye: LVL 83 +5
Officer Levi Ackerman: LVL 47 (Bane Bane no MI)
Seaman Recruit, Alfa: LVL 20
Seaman Recruit, Bravo: LVL 20
Seaman Recruit, Charlie: LVL 20
Seaman Recruit, Delta LVL 20
Total LVL: 597(637)
Sea: East Blue
Alliance: Captain Huon (144.5)
Fodder #2 - Dead
Fodder #3 - Dead
I'm activating the Bane Bane no Mi.
Turn 44:
Happening Roll: 718 - Ambush
Roll #1: 211
Roll #2: 551
+20 Levels
Marine Captain Obvious: LVL 214
Lieutenant Renji: LVL 90 (Sara Sara No Mi, Model: Axolotl, +40 in any battle) +10
Officer Jenny: LVL 48
Doctor Leorio: LVL 30
DIO!: LVL 10
2nd Lieutenant Riza Hawkeye: LVL 88 + 10
Officer Levi Ackerman: LVL 47 (Bane Bane no Mi, can roll twice in the same post)
Seaman Recruit, Alfa: LVL 20
Seaman Recruit, Bravo: LVL 20
Seaman Recruit, Charlie: LVL 20
Seaman Recruit, Delta LVL 20
Total LVL: 617(657)
Sea: East Blue
Alliance: Captain Huon (144.5)
Fodder #2 - Dead
Fodder #3 - Dead
@ Mr. Obvious
I love all of your ideas and I'm sure I'll implement them.
It appears the one real problem is still Set Sail. I do want Set Sail to be free. I want people to move on to the next sea when they're able (while still having some requirements). However, you're right about Raftel. I think what needs to happen is that Raftel will have a completely different requirement from the rest of the seas. The question is, what is that requirement?
Requirement 1: Total level of 5000.
-With a crew of 10, each member has to be at least 500.
Requirement 2: Must have 1 of each Haki.
PONEGLYPHS:
There are 3 Poneglyphs located on the Grand Line/New World. Finding them will lead you closer to One Piece. They are located in Alabasta, Skypiea, and Fishmen Island. To gain these Poneglyphs, you have to defeat the bosses on each of those islands.
I know what you're thinking. Hito, what the heck is this about? Well, as OmerMe said, it would be neat to have each sea FEEL different, and have reasons to go from one to the other. Therefore, look below to see the new Set Sail category:
Set Sail:
Set Sail will look the same as it does in the first post (including the edit of Raftel I posted above), WITH 1 more requirement. To get into the Grand Line, you'll have to visit every major island in the East Blue first. To get into the New World, you'll have to visit every island in the first half of the Grand Line. And to get to Raftel, you'll have to visit every island in the New World (plus pick up all the Poneglyphs along the way).
The islands will be represented in a brand new box. Each island will have special conditions that you'll have to meet before moving onto the next island. Some islands even have bosses. These bosses, unless specified, must be defeated to move onto the next island. You can choose to fight the boss whenever you like, or you can choose to do regular "Happenings" rolls to level up your character's first. One thing to keep in mind, some bosses might be very powerful, and it would be wise to form an alliance. If a player in an alliance defeats a boss, the other player won't have to! The same goes for Poneglyphs.
If one player finds one, the other player won't have to! Working together is the quickest way to get to Raftel.
Below are a list of islands in each of the seas and the requirements to move on to the next island. I'm totally open to discuss what is below!
East Blue:
Shell's Town:
All character's start here on Shell's Town, where Marines and Pirates meet! A nasty marine is stationed here who will attack both marines and pirates alike! Take him out!
To move on to the next island, you must defeat the boss below!
Boss: Axe-Hand Morgan: Battle level: 300. Special ability: Your second strongest character cannot participate! Reward: Gain 20 levels.
Orange Town:
A small town, but a strong pirate with a Devil Fruit controls it! Beware!
To move on to the next island, you must defeat the boss below!
Boss: Buggy the Clown: Battle level: 500. Special ability: Bara Bara no Mi (You must roll twice and add your crew's level. If either roll is lower than Buggy's level, you lose!) Reward: Gain 30 levels.
Syrup Village:
There isn't much to this town, but there appears to be a sneaky cat around…
To move on to the next island, you must defeat the boss below!
Boss: Kuro: Battle level: 600. Special ability: Stealth Foot (Character's below level 25 cannot participate!) Reward: Gain 35 levels.
Baratie:
It's a floating restaurant!
To move on to the next island, you must defeat the boss below!
Boss: Don Krieg: Battle level: 700. Special ability: Gas Bomb MH5 (Your main character's level is cut in half!) Reward: Gain 35 levels.
Secret boss (optional): Hawk-eye Mihawk. Battle level: 1000. Reward: 50 levels.
Arlong Park:
The strongest pirate in the East Blue lives here...
To move on to the next island, you must defeat the boss below!
Phase 1 boss: Arlong: Battle level: 500. Special ability: Water Attacks (Your characters will Devil Fruits cannot participate!)
Phase 2 boss: Arlong: Battle level: 850. Special ability: Sword Kiribachi (Your main character's level is halved! Reward: 45 levels.
Loguetown Arc:
The final stop until you reach the Grand Line!
To move on to the Grand Line, you must defeat the boss below!
Boss: Buggy the Clown: Battle level: 600. Special ability: Bara Bara no Mi (You must roll twice and add your crew's level. If either roll is lower than Buggy's level, you lose!) Reward: Gain 40 levels.
Grand Line:
Reverse Mountain:
You must traverse this mountain to enter the Grand Line!
To move on to the next island, you must have a character with a level of 100 or more. Roll and add your crew's total level. If it is 500 or more, enter the Grand Line!
Whiskey Peak:
You've had a lot of battles. Take some time to rest!
You can move on to the next island if you roll and add your crew's total level, and it is 500 or more. If you roll PVP/PVE and win, move on for free!
Little Garden:
And island stuck in the prehistoric era!
To move on to the next island, you must defeat the boss below!
Boss: Mr. 5, Miss Valentine, and Mr. 3: Battle level: 700. Special ability: Your 3 weakest characters cannot participate! Reward: Gain 35 levels.
Secret boss (optional) Dorry and Broggy: Battle level: 1200. Reward: 55 levels.
Drum Island:
An island that just wants to heal the world.
To move on to the next island, you must defeat the boss below!
Boss: Tin-Plate Wapol: Battle level: 700. Special ability: Baku Baku no Mi (Wapol eats your weakest character! That character cannot participate, and Wapol's battle level is increased by the eaten character's level) Reward: 45 Levels.
Alabasta:
This desert island is controlled by the evil pirate Crocodile and his Baroque Work's agents!
To move on to the next island, you must defeat the boss below!
Phase 1 boss: Mr. 4 and Miss Merry Christmas: Battle level: 550. Special ability: Your weakest able character is the only one that may participate and gain levels! Reward: 30 levels for that character.
Phase 2 boss: Mr. 2 Bon Clay: Battle level: 100 + X. Special ability: Mane Mane no Mi (Mr.2's battle level is 500 plus your third strongest character's level. Only your third strongest character can participate! Reward: 30 levels for that character.
Phase 3 boss: Mr. 1 and Miss Double Finger: Battle level: 700. Special ability: Only your second strongest character can participate! Reward: 30 levels for that character.
Phase 4 boss: Crocodile: Battle level: 1000. Special ability: Suna Suna no Mi (Only your strongest character can participate!) Reward: 50 levels for that character and you discover the Alabastan Poneglyph! It points the way to One Piece!
Secret boss (optional): Miss Sunday: Battle level: 800. Specail ability: Hana Hana no Mi (Add plus 100 to Miss Sunday's battle level for each character with a Devil Fruit on your crew!) Reward: 50 levels.
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I only have up to Alabasta written so far, but as you can see, this will really vary up the game and make each sea really feel like an adventure! I'll be happy to hear your ideas!
This seems really cool!
I really like these ideas.
Great way to make every sea unique and worthy of you being there.
I also thought, you could make things a bit more complicated, and add other goals other than the One Piece.
For instance if a player is a Shichibukai and decides to stay that way and not pursue the One Piece, he will get some sort of bonus/other goal.
Same goes for the other promotions.
Maybe that's a bit much though..
Another suggestion is regarding Admiral status-
Maybe add a 3 Admiral limit, and if a 4th player gets promoted to Admiral he must defeat the 1st Admiral. If he wins, the 2nd is now 1st and the previous 1st returns to being a Vice Admiral/normal marine/maybe change his ways and start pirating?
Interesting improvements and stuff.
I like the general idea, and appreciate the work you're putting in, but I think too many stops and too many necessary rolls might make the game overly complicated. Specifically, Albasta has too many rolls IMO.
I think Set Sail should be limited to once a day.
Other then that, I think this will vastly improve the game.
Hey guys, I've been away for a few days, so I haven't been following everything here, but I just read the ideas on the last few pages and I think this game is going in an awesome direction. Especially with all the islands we'll have to visit.
I was going to suggest adding some extra happenings to make the game less repetitive in the long run, but visiting all the islands does pretty much that.
I also think Omer's idea about Admirals is pretty cool, as well as his earlier suggestion about switching from pirate to marine and vice versa. Maybe we could have a happening (with a small chance percentage) that let's you switch (if you want).
Also, in regard to the whole thing with visiting islands: maybe we could make it so that at first you're just sailing around and once you choose/roll to battle a boss (and thus visit a new island), you must defeat that boss before you can continue sailing around beyond that particular island and roll regular happenings again.
One thing I'm not too sure about is how alliances would work in this new boss-system. Giving the second member of alliance the opportunity to move on without battling a boss will in a lot of cases probably result in one person beating all the bosses and the other one just kinda moving on normally.
About the "secret bosses": How would that work exactly? Can you choose to battle them if you want or do you have to "find" them somehow? An do you have to fight them before or after beating the regular boss of that particular island?
I think someone earlier suggested the option of going back to previous seas you have visited before. Maybe it would be an extra incentive to do that if you didn't defeat a secret boss at first or something.
I suggested going back to the other seas. I think he will implement it so that you will be able to go back to bosses/poneglyphs you haven't fought/found yet.
Marine Squad Beautiful Duwang Vice-Admiral Josuke Higashikata - Level 101 (Neko Neko no Mi: Leopard)
Marine TheParfait - Level 55 (Bara Bara no Mi)
Marine Whamu!Whamu!- Level 33
Marine EvilFace>EvilWatch - Level 25
Marine AriAriAriArriverdeci - Level 20
Marine ReroRero - Level 25
Crew Level - 259
Alliance: Vice-Admiral Lynn Wenright + 326
Sea- East Blue
Special condition- I can reroll everything once outside of PvP´s and the Happening decide roll (Bara Bara); I get half of a Shichibukai level in battle (because i´m a vice-admiral); Josuke can get + 200
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Marine Squad Beautiful Duwang Vice-Admiral Josuke Higashikata - Level 111 (Neko Neko no Mi: Leopard)
Marine TheParfait - Level 60 (Bara Bara no Mi)
Marine Whamu!Whamu!- Level 33
Marine EvilFace>EvilWatch - Level 30
Marine AriAriAriArriverdeci - Level 20
Marine ReroRero - Level 25
Crew Level - 279
Alliance: Vice-Admiral Lynn Wenright + 326
Sea- East Blue
Special condition- I can reroll everything once outside of PvP´s and the Happening decide roll (Bara Bara); I get half of a Shichibukai level in battle (because i´m a vice-admiral); Josuke can get + 200
@ Mr. Obvious
Thanks! I will probably shorten some islands, especially Alabasta. Hopefully it wouldn't get too complicated, since the boss fights are a single player experience and you don't have to keep up with someone else's rolls. Oh, and yeah, you can only challenge the island boss once per day.
@ Huon
I'd like to keep it as simple as possible, so instead of being in a 'area between islands', you'll always be on some island. While on that island, you can do all the happening's rolls like usual. You don't have to fight the boss right away. But you WILL have to fight and defeat him to move to the next island.
As for the secret bosses, you can challenge them if you want only after you've defeated the regular boss. They're an optional thing which could lead to larger level rewards.
@ Omer
Great idea about the admirals. Perhaps we should apply that to the Shichibukai and Yonkou as well. Otherwise, the first seven/four people who get that position get to keep it forever. It would be nice to have it challenged in some way, so great idea.
I will keep working on the rest of the islands and when I finish, I'll post a completed list. I'll also post a list of new devil fruits, so please add some if you'd like. Thanks!
No more plays?
Are we making a Hiatus for the new improvments to be established or something like that?
If any important change is made i would appreciate a PM. I´m still with limited time and so i can´t read every single post with suggestions.
Appreciated.
No more plays?
Are we making a Hiatus for the new improvments to be established or something like that?If any important change is made i would appreciate a PM. I´m still with limited time and so i can´t read every single post with suggestions.
Appreciated.
Yep, I think everyone's stopped since a big update is coming soon anyway. It will most likely be in a new thread.
yeah that's one of the reasons i stopped.
Change 1: Devil Fruits
I will be looking through the list of Devil Fruits and making any adjustments necessary, particularly adding new ones! I want to add as many as possible, over a hundred if possible, so that we never run out. So, guys, please, create new Devil Fruits or use ones from the manga that I haven't already and come up with new abilities! More powerful Devil Fruits will have lower roll chances, while regular devil fruits will be much more common.Change 2: Promotions!
Now, this is the meat of the game. This is what all players should strive for, since people who are Admirals and Yonkou and the like really effect the late game. I think Pinelark brought up great points in some unbalances.One thing I've noticed is that marines (with no promotions) only have to fight pirates (with no promotions), but pirates (with no promotions) have to battle strong Shichibukai AND strong Vice Admirals AND other regular pirates. Basically, pirates have it really rough from the get go. The only thing marines (with no promotions) have to worry about is Yonkous, and thats it, while pirates have to worry about EVERYTHING.
A fix to this is to change the rules so that marines can only fight pirates, and pirates can only fight marines. This would mean we would have to change the rule so that Shichibukai could still fight marines, but that's no big deal. In the end, it would make it more balanced. Pirates would have to worry about Vice Admirals and Admirals, and marines would have to worry about Shichibukai and Yonkou.
With that in mind, here are my new changes:
Shichibukai:
Requirements: Main character must be at least level 100.
1. In all battles, double your main character's level.Vice Admiral:
Requirements: Main character must be at level 100.
1. Gain a Shichibukai's main character level for PVP battles.Yonkou:
Requirements: Must be in an alliance, and total crew level must be at least 1000.
1. Can have 3 alliances.Admiral:
Requirements: Must be in an alliance, and total crew level must be at least 1000.
1. In PVP, add the top 3 Shichibukai captain's level to your total level.As you can see above, all Promotions have the same requirements and a similar bonus. I'd love to make it more complex, but it becomes more difficult to keep things balanced. For example, I'd like to have it so Shichibukai can't have alliances, but if I did, I'd have to give Vice Admiral's a negative trait too, but I can't think of one that would make sense and keep things reasonable.
I think all players being allowed to have alliances is perfectly fine, it keeps balance simple. My question on the promotions is, are the 1) buffs listed the only ones you want to implement in the reset?
Because if those are the only ones, then it looks like the Shichibukai/Yonkou have the edge now. Or Vice Admirals/Admirals still getting expanded crews?
As for Devil Fruits, I think it's important to note that there are strong fruits in every category and weak fruits in every category. I found it kind of strange that my Inu Inu no Mi: Model Wolf, granted me +100 per battle with no repercussions while the Gura Gura no Mi had the repercussions of that character not being able to gain levels that turn. In my opinion that particular fruit was more impressive than any Zoan.
Perhaps keep the number range on the fruits but REALLY powerful fruits might need a specific number to be rolled? While weaker fruits can have a range of say 5 to 10 numbers?
@ Pinelark
Thanks for your thoughts!
Yeah, some devil fruits were definitely better than others, and I do think those fruits will have much lower rolls than the weaker ones, even a specific number. With my addition of islands, some fruits will just be taken out, since bosses use them, just to keep things consistent.
As for the changes to the promotions. Let's say Shichibukai vs Vice Admiral:
Shichibukai:
captain: 250
pirate: 100
pirate: 100
pirate: 100
pirate: 100
Vice Admiral:
captain: 250
pirate: 100
pirate: 100
pirate: 100
pirate: 100
If they fought, the Shichibukai's total level would be 1300. The Vice Admiral's total level would be 1250 (if the Vice Admiral took power of a different Shichibukai which would probably be similar level), so they are close to balanced.
Same for Yonkou and Admiral.
Let's say Yonkou's total battle level is 2000 and they have 3 alliances where each alliance gives him 250 each. That makes a total of 2750.
And the Admiral's total battle level is 2000 as well, and the 3 Shichibukai they take give them 250 each, which is a expected level for a Shichibukai captain. That would give the Admiral a total of 2750 just the same.
If I haven't noticed an unblanace however, please let me know and I'll try to fix it!
Thanks!
OH, and I am still working on the islands. I have all the way to Amazon Lily right now. Not much left to do.
The only fruit I remember being kind of broken was the … I think it was the Nori Nori no Mi allowing a change of paths; that particular ability wasn't that overpowered, but being able to use it once a day whenever you had a happening next to "Get a DF" made it a little ridiculously good at getting DF's for a crew.
Fruits that affect happening rolls might be changed altogether, or maybe I can change them so they won't get DF so often. I'll have to think about it.
You could just add limitatoins.
"Cannot be used for getting other devil fruits or promotions"
Some DF suggestions
Might be worked on:
Doru DOru no Mi (mr3): Created a defensive wall that doesn´t allow any outside contributions (alliances or Shichi or any other) during a PvP (for both sides of the battle)
Kilo Kilo (valentine): Add "30" to your happening roll (i don´t think i´ts as powerfull as the other Happening fruit considering most times the DF fruits or Set sails only have a small amount of role numbers and 30 would most of time past that number. This would most of the times change a PvP to recruit, or PvE to Haki)
Mane Mane (mr 2): After a PvP fight you can "record" the Lvl of one of the enemy crew mates except for the captain. In another PvP fight you can transform the character with this fruit into that LvL. So a level 30 character could become a level 80 fo exemple for one fight. After the fight, you lose that "record".
Sabi Sabi no Mi (from that captain guy): Allows you to rust the opponents weapon in PvE and Ambush. Reduce the necessary role to win by 1/3
Shari Shari no Mi (another captain guy): Quick Escape! If you lose a PvP, Pve or any other kind of battle, you suffer no penalization. (Maybe it should be a reduced penalization, even though i´m not sure how you can reduce a capture or death)
Kage Kage no Mi (Moria): Shadow Asgard! The owner of the fruit reunites the strenght of all his teammates and doubles it. Cannot contribute to any battle for 10 turns (maybe more?)
Mero Mero no Mi (hancock): The power of Love!Allows you to "charm" an enemy crewmate with a level equal or less than this fruit user to your crew after a battle. Cannot be cast of fruit users
Choki Choki no Mi (Inazuma): Reduce your enemy´s alliance bonus to half
Mato Mato no Mi (Van der Decken): Lock on! You locked on to an enemy character after a PvP battle. Every time that character gets an amount of levels, the fruit user gets half of that amount. Locks in for 10 enemy turns. Can only be locked on again after another lock on ends (Lock on character X, character X gets 5 levels from a PvE, Mato Mato user gets 3 levels).
Pika Pika no Mi (Kizaru): Bright! Reroll twice. Take the final number of each roll . The enemies crewmates that coincides with the number of the roll lose half their level during this fight. (System similar to the current Ambush)
Gasu Gasu no Mi (CC): Lack of Air! Double Edge Sword. The enemy 2 ( if in East Blue),4 (If in Paradise), 6 (if in the New World) weakest crewmates cannot contribute to the current fight, but so can´t your 1 (EB), 2 (Paradise) or 3 (NW) weakest ones
Ushi Ushi no Mi : Model Giraffe (Kaku): THE RANGE! When your alliance enters a fight (any kind), the captain of it can choose to use your character in his battle, adding the fruit user Lvl like he is part of his crew. This does not disturb the usual alliance bonus. The fruit user is still a part of his crew and cannot suffer any negative damage from the fight. If the alliance crew wins the battle, the fruit user gets 5 (East Blue), 10 (Paradise), 15 (New World) Levels. (Maybe i should also give it a negative penalty in case of a loss so it is not only positive points)
Feel free to make any modifications or just destroy my ideas for the fruits if you have better ones.
I also have not checked all of yours, so there might be some with equal effects.
I'm interested in starting this game when it jumps to a new thread. I don't any have suggestions now but I'll be sure to post them if I can think of any.
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@ OmerMe
That's a great idea. Thanks!
@ Space Cowboy
Awesome Devil Fruits! I'll add them for sure.
Again, sorry its taking a couple of days guys. I've been really busy over here, but I'm putting the time I can towards the game. Thanks for the wait.
Are we starting over again, or are we continuing in this new thread?
We'll start over again, since so much will be added it won't be fun to just get thrown into it
3 Things:
1- I feel like we should add some "cooldowns" (turns which they can´t be used) to the Df´s.
When i get home i will try to make a post giving each fruit a CDown and explaining the reason. The stronger the fruit, the higher the cooldown.
I will try to make something balanced
2- About some of my fruits, i thought about some changes.
In the Kilo Kilo no Mi i feel like the current power does not transmit the capacity of the user to freely change his weight accoring to his will. 30 is a very static number, so here´s my second suggestion: After a happening roll, grab the last two numbers and add them. If it surpasses 999, then simply take out the first number.
So if you get a 372, you would add 72. If you get a 4 you would add 4. If you get 207 you would add 7 and so on.
If the result would give you something like 1024, simply take out the 1 and you get a 024 roll.
About the Mero Mero no Mi: I think it´s a bit weird by this point. It makes it seem that, even if you lose the fight, you can use the fruit, which would make the "losing you weakest teammate" penalization useless, considering you would get another character, maybe even stronger.
So: If you Win a PvP fight, intead of the enemy losing his weakest crewmate (to Impel Down), you "charm" an enemy crewmate with a level equal or less than this fruit user to your crew after a battle. Cannot be cast of fruit users. This substitutes the usual enemy penalty The third one and hardest is the Kage Kage:
I wanted to make this a powerhouse fruit like in the manga (Shadow Asgard and the boost it gives Moria), and i think it refkects the whole more members/more power imagine it had in the manga.
But i think right now it´s too strong. In low levels it won´t make a lot of difference, but in something like a crew with a total level of 600, this will suddenly give you a 600 advantage, so i came up with 3 solutions:
We either keep the fruit has it is but we give it a pretty big penalization/cooldown like: The fruit user cannot contribute to any battle with LvL or fruit for the next 25 turns
Or we change the fruit. I have 2 other suggestions:
The owner of the fruit reunites the shadows (Levels) or the 3 strongest crewmates (including captain) in himself and doubles it. If he is one of the 3 strongest, then you get the 4th strongest. Cannot be used for 10 turns. (basically a powered up Jake Jake no Mi, with 4 levels doubled instead of 2)
Or
The Owner of the fruit can choose any number of crewmates to take their shadows (Levesl) and then double the whole amount (can also choose the captain). The crewmates that give their shadows cannot use their DFs in this fight and cannot contribute for the next 2 turns. (This will force the player to make the choice between raw power or the possibility to use the other DFS in case something goes wrong. This will also force them to risk not using a certain part of their total crewlevel for the next 2 turns, which they may need in a PvE, ambush, or other PvP). The fruit has a 10 turns cooldown. I leave it to you guys to choose which you think it´s the most fun/balanced.
3- I´m not sure if this was discussed, but i´m not sure we have a lot of reasons to give other crewmates a lot of levels, so, to advance in the islands or seas, maybe we should create conditions like
"The captain must be above level 100 and have 2 crewmates with levels over 50"
"To proceed to the next island, you must have 10 crewmates with levels equal or bigger than 35"
And so on, instead of focusing the these restrictions on the total crew level.
I will discuss the rest later.
My laptop has already shut down twice for some reason (maybe overheat) while i was writing this and i don´t want to risk more.
Thank God for AP forums autosave
Thanks for taking the time for upgrading some of the Devil Fruits! Some of the really powerful fruits will have some big restrictions.
As for your Kilo Kilo no Mi, I'm not sure I understand. You take the last two numbers of the roll and add them together. So like if I rolled 567, it would be 6+7= 13. What do I do with that 13? Add it to 567, which equals 580. If it were over 999, I would take away the first number. What first number? The 5 in 567? So my roll would be 67 instead?
As for the crew level thing, yeah, I'll probably add in some conditions so that the rest of your crew needs to be leveled up too.
how do i play this game with my sister
Thanks for taking the time for upgrading some of the Devil Fruits! Some of the really powerful fruits will have some big restrictions.
As for your Kilo Kilo no Mi, I'm not sure I understand. You take the last two numbers of the roll and add them together. So like if I rolled 567, it would be 6+7= 13. What do I do with that 13? Add it to 567, which equals 580. If it were over 999, I would take away the first number. What first number? The 5 in 567? So my roll would be 67 instead?
As for the crew level thing, yeah, I'll probably add in some conditions so that the rest of your crew needs to be leveled up too.
I probably didn´t made it clear.
You do your initial roll, for example, 477, and then you add "weight" to it. The Weight is the last two numbers of your initial roll.
So you roll, you get a 477, you add 77 to the 477 = 554 happening
You roll, you get a 004, and you had 04 = 008 Happening
If you get a 511 you add 11, which gives you 522.
The over 999 rule was just meant to explain what happens if your final roll goes over that amount, considering there are no happenings over 999.
So in a situation you get an initial 978 roll and you decide to use your fruit to add more 78, which would get you a 1056 roll, you only use the last 3 numbers of the total, or erase the first one (whichever term/phrase you prefer).
So your happening will be 056.
The most extreme situation would be for you to get a 999 + 99 which would result in 1098, and a 098 roll.
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how do i play this game with my sister
Hito and the rest are working towards making the game more balanced, making some changes. Probably won´ take long.
After that it will just restart.
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I had some more fruit ideas, this time with unnamed ones.
My initial plan was to google translate english words into japanese to name the fruits, but i only get results with Kanji, so screw it.
Army Army no Mi (Capone Bege):
I wanted to capture the feeling of surprise and preemptive strike the fruit showed us in it´s only appearence, so:
When you get in a PvP Battle, cripple the enemy with a preemptive strike by reducing the his total crew level by one third of your own total crew level. So if my crew, level 100, gets in a fight with X crew, level 150, i divide my 100 by 3 (33) and reduce Crew X 150 by 33 (117).
It only affects crew level, not other kind of bonuses like alliances.
Vodoo Vodoo no Mi (Hawkings): So Hawkings used this to redirect the damage he suffered during his fight and have a second change (and a third), considering he would otherwise have received fatal damage.
If you lose a battle (any kind), you have a second change at life and can roll again, but this time your crew level will be reduced by half and your alliances will only give you two thirds of the usual bonus. The other option i came up with was:
If you lose a battle (any kind), you have a second change at life and can roll again, but you have to sacrifice 1 (East Blue), 2 (Paradise), 3 (New World) crewmates of your choice. The opponent can keep the same roll, or reroll if he wants to. If you lose the battle, you will suffer normal consequences. While the second chance seems to reflect what the fruit does in the manga better (The player redirects the damage he suffers to his crewmates, that die), i feel like the sacrifice of weaker members won´t make much of a difference in the middle of the game, where you have a big crew and high level alliances.
I added the second clause to not make the battle completely unfair to the other part, that should have won the battle, but i also think giving the opponent such power would be overwhelming.
The first one, while it isn´t that much "cannon", is probably more balanced.
The player does not make any big sacrifice to use the fruit, but he will have his second chance with already heavy restrictions. The outcome of the battle will depend in his luck with the roll, considering his crew level and alliance will be weakened.
Maybe i should also reduce the alliance bonus to half, which woud make it 25% of the total crew level of the alliance.
Karma Karma no Mi (The Urouge): I´ll keep this one simple:
What doesn´t kill you can only make you stronger! Everytime you lose a battle, the fruit user gains 5 (East Blue), 7 (Paradise), 10 (New World) levels. That´s all for now. I´ll try to come up with some more tomorrow so we won´t have a DF shortage.
I love that Karma fruit, lol. Great job SpaceCowboy!
Again, sorry its taking so long. My work is taking up a lot of my time and I just don't have much spare time to put into the game at the moment. It will hopefully not take much longer and we can play again!
What happens when a crew's total level exceeds 999?
sooo let me try this Im new to the forum and late for the game but still :)
Rolled 153 so Im a pirate
rolled again for happening box,got 413,I got a recruit
I guess this is the end of my turn
turn #1
pirate
Captain Dado lvl 10
Second hand Masni lvl 5
Total lvl: 15
Total bounty: 15,000,000
p.s. is this good?first time playing game :)
p.p.s. I see that new game is comming soon,didnt notice that before I posted
Any news on when the game is returning?
I completely forgot. Hito where are you?
I'm thinking it may end up being a while. After all, almost a year went by between versions 1 and 2. I'm sure Hito's still working on it, though.
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We could continue with this version in the meantime if anyone's up for it.
Initial roll:342.I'm a pirate.
Happening roll:924 Recruit
Turn 1 End
Pirate
Pirate Crew Captain RogueAlex>Level 10
First Mate Liak>Level 5
Rogue Pirates level 15
Bounty:15,000,000
No alliances.
Sea:East Blue
