IMO Sabo instantly eating the DF makes him smarter / more pragmatic than most other good guys. What do y'all expect? For him to keep it in his pocket until someone steals it from him or holds Rebecca hostage and makes him give it up? That kind of trope is so overdone but people still want it in every series. It's similar to how the bad guy explains his plans in detail giving someone else enough time to come in and whoop his ass.
One Piece Chapter 744 - Revolutionary Army Chief Advisor
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Also to those saying Robin is too weak. I think Oda has underused her fruit. He instantly nerfed her when she joined the crew. I think after 2 year arc its time to un-nerf her.
Besides the only Strawhats standing right now are Luffy, Zoro and Robin. Most arcs when it comes time to takign on the enemies we have to worry about giving 10 people spotlight. There is only 3 people right now. If he can't find the time to give Robin some spotlight fighting I am going to be severely disappointed.
As for Trebel. What is one thing that most enemies have in regards to being beaten? When looking back you can always think, "wow, that was like the perfect matchup. Only that strawhat could have beaten him" Now lets look at Trebel as I said. What are his strengths. Sticky fruit and immense strength. We've seen that his sticky fruit can stick even the hardiest warriors like Don Chinjou and the other combatants. He is also able to throw battleships around.
Now lets look at Robin in comparison to those two skills. She did state back in Arabasta that strength means nothing to here, but I'm sure someone will quickly show Zoro's zombie on Thriller bark. Two things to that. 1. It's been 2 years, she is stronger. 2. It was a Zombie and they can do feats normal people can't such as easily allow a shoulder to dislocate, ect cause feel no pain. Now also consider strength means NOTHING if it can't hit the opponent. Robin can be hiding behind a wall and use eyes to see and attack that way. Have clones all aruond, ect. Many ways to never actually be hit. I have seen zero evidence that Trebel has good CoO or any way of determining where Robin is.
Then on to the other strength of Trebol is his sticky goo. Basically the same as the above argument for his strength. If he can't sticky her real body then its pointless, even if he stickies her real body, she can still create clones and arms and so on I would think else where to continue to fight.Her fruit is almost a natural enemy to his. The only problem is finding a way to take him out since it appears only Luffy/Zoro/Sanji have Haki. But Luffy has taken out two Logia's without Haki before. Maybe its time to see her take out a Logia by her smarmmts/skills now.
I want as much as any other person here for Robin to defeat a major opponent, but I don´t think it will be Trebol. Still sticking to Sabo defeating him for several reasons. Him crashing down right next to him now, and Trebol also said his sticky-glue-thingy was flamable. We haven´t seen it combust yet as far as I can remember, and if you are familiar with the term "Chekhovs gun" it should combust sooner or later. Also holding a spot open for Ussop as he has some flameable attacks. Although he is pretty beat down at the moment.
Edit: I completely agree jack1000
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That's the example I would use.
However, it could be just annoying tendency of Oda making every marine below the rank of Admiral absolutly useless…
Vice-Admiral are supposed to loose against Big Guns.
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Vice-Admiral are supposed to loose against Big Guns.
Really? Is Law a big gun now? How about Vergo?
Ironicaly, only named character against whom Vice-Admirals were of any use was Luffy, during Whitebeard war. And even then, he was exhausted.
There is a difference between losing against Big Guns, and entire rank not having any significante victory at all. Unless you count Garp, which I don't, because he is clearly on Admiral level.
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It's interesting how Law always seems to care about Luffy's welfare. It's a bit too interesting and Oda has been consistent with that idea since Marinford through PH and now even on Dressrosa. I mean resulting to threatening.. Smh.. But sorry Law, Luffy is too Lawless for that. :ninja:
Yeah, I agree with you, I think He keeps saying "The Alliance is over" as a way to get Doflamingo away from the Strawhats and Luffy. He's concern about him because Doflamingo was suppose to be his main problem . I don't think Law the whole extent of Luffy's power. [Edited because, I'm a Newbie dummy}
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You can claim it's plausible all you want, but if you have no logical argument to back it with it ends up being just a baseless thought.
Yeah, let's forget about Pre-TS Luffy where he kept on attacking Crocodile and Smoker despite knowing it doesn't work for shit. But Burgess throwing a fucking house on Ace?! "That's SO DUMB!11!" Who's being obtuse here?
No, it's not. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Who else is as "brawny" as Burgess in BB's crew? And who else aside from Laffitte and Shiryu showed some brains?
How is this anything but pure conjecture? The very definition of a "baseless thought".And I like how it went from "Burgess may be one of the weakest BB members" To "Burgess may NOT be the strongest captain in the crew"… Shows the confidence you have in your "argument".
So you are arguing against my argument that he might be the weakest member of bb's crew by claiming he's not? How the fuck is that not baseless or are you devoid of the irony of your posts?
Err how about pre ts Luffy doesn't know jack about haki? How about Luffy discovering water was crocodile's weakness and using it to his advantage? And when water run out, he coated his fists with blood as a replacement? Does that not scream resourcefulness and ingenuity? Oh let's conveniently forget all that and pretend Luffy was a fool who kept throwing "vain attacks" at crocodile even after discovering his weakness because hey, that's what suits your arguement right? Wtf are "vain attacks" anyway?!
Where exactly did I claim they were as brawny as Jesus? They may not be as physically imposing as Jesus is but I would certainly fancy some of them more with fulfilling an objective the same way I fancy robin and usoppe to chopper due to their resourcefulness. That makes them more valuable to the crew than a meat head who has a hard time figuring out throwing a house of wood is not gonna damage a man made of fire.
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Don't worry I haven't stopped yet.
I'm just busy and I won't be around till Tuesday :PGood to know!! :D
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Really? Is Law a big gun now? How about Vergo?
Ironicaly, only named character against whom Vice-Admirals were of any use was Luffy, during Whitebeard war. And even then, he was exhausted.
There is a difference between losing against Big Guns, and entire rank not having any significante victory at all. Unless you count Garp, which I don't, because he is clearly on Admiral level.
You want to say that Vice Amirals are not strong or what are you aiming at?
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You want to say that Vice Amirals are not strong or what are you aiming at?
I say that they are routinely worfed for the sake of pirates.
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http://www.agoldenvision.org/home/goldenvision/.blogs/post2006/bird_cage_pattern_1.jpg
The bird LOOKS like it is TRAPPED in the cage but it actually is not.
Doflamingo LOOKS like he got DECAPITATED but he actually did not.It's all a misdirection.
This makes too much sense….. I LOVE IT!
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I say that they are routinely worfed for the sake of pirates.
VA fight (or seem a fight):
Momonga (VA elite) ….......................Vs............... Hancock (Shichibukai) Ronse (VA giant squad) …..................Vs............... WB (Yonko) John Giant (VA giant squad)…............Vs................WB (Yonko) Onigumo (VA elite) + Kizaru ….........Vs................ Marco (1st Yonko Commander)
Smoker (newbie)............................. Vs ................Law (Shichibukai) Smoker (newbie) …..........................Vs ................Vergo ( ex VA elite + right hand Shichibukai)
Maynard (newbie)…......................Vs ................Gambia (maybe right hand Super Rookie)
Maynard (newbie) ...........................Vs ................Bartolomeo (Super Rookie) +:Smoker (newbie)…....................... Vs ................DD (Shichibukai) ….How can you said they are useless, if they got beaten by a big shoot???
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and Trebol also said his sticky-glue-thingy was flamable. We haven´t seen it combust yet as far as I can remember, and if you are familiar with the term "Chekhovs gun" it should combust sooner or later.
Immediately after he commented on it being combustible, he started using it to blow up the Tontatta.
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VA fight (or seem a fight):
Momonga (VA elite) ….......................Vs............... Hancock (Shichibukai) Ronse (VA giant squad) …..................Vs............... WB (Yonko) John Giant (VA giant squad)…............Vs................WB (Yonko) Onigumo (VA elite) + Kizaru ….........Vs................ Marco (1st Yonko Commander)
Smoker (newbie)............................. Vs ................Law (Shichibukai) Smoker (newbie) …..........................Vs ................Vergo ( ex VA elite + right hand Shichibukai)
Maynard (newbie)…......................Vs ................Gambia (maybe right hand Super Rookie)
Maynard (newbie) ...........................Vs ................Bartolomeo (Super Rookie) +:Smoker (newbie)…....................... Vs ................DD (Shichibukai) ….How can you said they are useless, if they got beaten by a big shoot???
Finally agree with Darth in something, the only VA that have shown something so far in the story is Vergo, I give merits to Momonga for withstanding Boa's attack but besides that they're being pretty useless
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Finally agree with Darth in something, the only VA that have shown something so far in the story is Vergo, I give merits to Momonga for withstanding Boa's attack but besides that they're being pretty useless
Yeaah… Would be pretty nice if we could see a VA not getting his beat by someone every damn time.
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This makes too much sense….. I LOVE IT!
Appreciate it!
I get the feeling we are going to get the beginning of the Law/Cora/Doflamingo flashback next chapter with another cliffhanger for us to wait on after Goldenweek. The cliffhanger will probably be the set up to Doflamingo killing Cora. We may see Vergo beating the brakes off Law for training as well.
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Finally agree with Darth in something, the only VA that have shown something so far in the story is Vergo, I give merits to Momonga for withstanding Boa's attack but besides that they're being pretty useless
You just dumb … how can... Momongga stronger than Hancock? or... VA giant squad stronger than Yonko? or ...VA newbie stronger than Shichibukai or Super Rookie?
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You just dumb … how can... Momongga stronger than Hancock? or... VA giant squad stronger than Yonko? or ...VA newbie stronger than Shichibukai or Super Rookie?
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If all VA stronger than Super Rookie and Shichibukai, Marine didn't need a Shichibukai.The Sichibukais I can agree with, but the Super Rookies too? Must I remind you that all the Super Rookies from 2 years ago got their ass kicked by some Pacifista? Judging by the performance of VAs so far, they might as well replace all of them by just Pacifistas.
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The Sichibukais I can agree with, but the Super Rookies too? Must I remind you that all the Super Rookies from 2 years ago got their ass kicked by some Pacifista? Judging by the performance of VAs so far, they might as well replace all of them by just Pacifistas.
That was mostly Kizaru. Even Urouge was able to fight evenly with a Pacifista until Kizaru decided to stop fucking around.
Not to mention that there's only one Super Rookie in there, and he won against a rookie VA.
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You just dumb … how can... Momongga stronger than Hancock? or... VA giant squad stronger than Yonko? or ...VA newbie stronger than Shichibukai or Super Rookie?
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If all VA stronger than Super Rookie and Shichibukai, Marine didn't need a Shichibukai.I think the argument here is that Oda tend to use VA to introduce and or hype new characters
" Oh, I need to introduce and hype Hancock? hmm, I know!…."
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That was mostly Kizaru. Even Urouge was able to fight evenly with a Pacifista until Kizaru decided to stop fucking around.
Not to mention that there's only one Super Rookie in there, and he won against a rookie VA.
Was Urouge fighting him alone? I don't remember quite well, all I remember is Luffy, Zoro and Sanji struggling to fight one, and Law plus Kid fighting together to defeat other one.
Still, they were a bigger threat to them then any VA have been so far.
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You just dumb … how can... Momongga stronger than Hancock? or... VA giant squad stronger than Yonko? or ...VA newbie stronger than Shichibukai or Super Rookie?
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If all VA stronger than Super Rookie and Shichibukai, Marine didn't need a Shichibukai.What the fuck are you talking about? I never said that Momonga is stronger that Hancock, hell we don't even know where they stand in the food chain, the only thing I'm saying is that the VA we have seen so FAR are useless and Oda hasn't really shown anything regarding their power also being a Super Rookie doesn't mean that they're the strongest characters even among Marines, VAs are the third strongest force the Marines have, so going by that I'm pretty sure that there a few Vice Admirals that will kick Law's ass and more now that they had the conscription.
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That was mostly Kizaru. Even Urouge was able to fight evenly with a Pacifista until Kizaru decided to stop fucking around.
Not to mention that there's only one Super Rookie in there, and he won against a rookie VA.
Urouge got his ass kicked by that Pacifista and then Drake butt in, after that Kizaru went ham on them.
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I say that they are routinely worfed for the sake of pirates.
Not really.
Vergo seemed to be close to Whitebeard commanders level. Onigumo managed to cuff Marco and was given a mission of getting Ace from Impel Down to Marineford.
There were some other standouts as well.Bartolomeo probably provoked "Capman" to attack him full force and as he seemed brute CQC fighter he easily fallen for Barts DF. Maynard was also said to be new to Vice Admiral business so to say and there is plenty of veterans among them that we didnt seen in real fight yet.
Vergo gotten cut in half but it doesnt mean that he isnt stronger than Law for example. Worf effect is used by Oda but in wider scope than in any other comic book or manga(bit bold statement so I am open for correction).
Smoker and Vergo fallen to DF ability that is definition of word haxed. Maynard- same.
We didnt seen much "raw" fighting from VA so I expect them to be enemies of monster trio at some time in future. Sanji had some raw fight with VA Vergo and it was very close fight even if you arque. Onigumo should be as strong if not stronger atm than Zoro. Doberman could be Dobreman Zoan user and an enemy for Sanji etc - I can go on with those match ups as they seem to make perfect sense imo. Supernovas seem to be as stong as veteran Vice Admirals so its not that bad as you picture it. -
@Lao:
I kind of don't understand, the Jump is coming out in Monday with chapter 744 in it. Since the Japanese people will not get the chapter the week after the Jump is released in japan, so the promotion shouldn't be affected by the hiatus for US.
I'm comfused too, I don't get how they went out before the actual chapter and I still have hope, but Shueisha is the master or trolls.
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Vergo gotten cut in half but it doesnt mean that he isnt stronger than Law for example.
I don't like to get into powerlevel talk but the moment Law lost the handicap of having the enemy squeeze his heart every time he tried to fight back he was able to oneshot Vergo despite the guy using Ultimate Terra Former Haki mode.
And before people go "Vergo didn't try to dodge, he was cocky!" Law's island slash was 360 degrees.
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I think getting beaten by Law is a pretty good indicator that he isn't stronger than Law. I don't like to get into powerlevel talk but the moment Law lost the handicap of having the enemy squeeze his heart every time he tried to fight back he was able to oneshot Vergo despite the guy using Ultimate Terra Former Haki mode.
And before people go "Vergo didn't try to dodge, he was cocky!" Law's island slash was 360 degrees.
Vergo has soru
Honestly even Doflamingo embraced Vergo by saying to Law that Vergos haki can protect him even from Laws DF ability. Its clear Law gotten underestimated and that(beside Laws cutting ability being > Vergos CoA haki) was reason why fight was so short. Vergo did retarded thing by assuming that Law cant do shit to him with his Devil Fruit. If Vergo knew it would probably look different, fight would prolonged and I would not be so fast with stating that Law would still be a winner. Who knows. Doflamingo at bridge against not fully recovered Law shown that Joker is fair bit stonger than Law and Vergo was said to be nr 1 man after Joker himself. So they were around same in food chain imo. Seats seems to be hinted to be at level of what Law shown to be capable of. 360 degree slash doesnt mean much if enemy can use soru and geppou.
Also wtf is Ultimate Terra Former Haki mode ???
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The whole point of Law vs. Vergo was to show that Law was stronger than Vergo, subverting Doula's expectations.
Some people just try to complicate things by adding "what if" scenarios.
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I gotta say, I'm impressed vagabond, you didn't even mentioned Vergo's "metal DF"… Yet. :ninja:
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For me, it seems like he's much more likely to join Barto's crew. Barto needs some strong crew mates, if he's really want to be of any help to Luffy in future big battles.
I agree. I think Bellamy is going to shift his fandom from Dofla to Luffy and join the Luffy Fan Club. It just makes so much sense.
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Law's island slash
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For me, it seems like he's much more likely to join Barto's crew. Barto needs some strong crew mates, if he's really want to be of any help to Luffy in future big battles.
Bartolomeo is practically a Revo now, I don't see him being a Pirate - pirate anymore
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I gotta say, I'm impressed vagabond, you didn't even mentioned Vergo's "metal DF". :ninja:
Haha your welcome
I will not use it, thanks for reminding people that I think he probably will be revealed to have it though :ninja:
and King Cannon - of course Law vs Vergo proven that Laws ability is beyond even Vergos haki and that Law thanks to that has high chance of winning if they had more fights but Vergo was a monster compared to what we seen by most part in first part of One Piece. Its not trying to complicate but its avoiding simplyfying stuff too much and letting people make some bold statements like "VA are nothing special" or something along those lines. Sure Oda uses them since Smokers rather fast fall against Law. Oda shown to us that Law is slightly over strong Vice Admiral like Vergo but clearly he is not up to Admiral being slightly under Doflamingo.
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Bartolomeo is practically a Revo now, I don't see him being a Pirate - pirate anymore
Yeah you haven't seen that Sanji won't get the Mera Mera either…
So sorry... Barto will stay a pirate
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I'm comfused too, I don't get how they went out before the actual chapter and I still have hope, but Shueisha is the master or trolls.
That happens every week. We always get the chapters 4 days before the JUMP is officially released in Japan.
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Yeah you haven't seen that Sanji won't get the Mera Mera either…
So sorry... Barto will stay a pirate
OOOOOOOOOOOOO SHIT, YOU GOT BUUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNNEEEEEDDDDD SON :ninja:
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OOOOOOOOOOOOO SHIT, YOU GOT BUUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNNEEEEEDDDDD SON :ninja:
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Where is the avatar of shame?? the one that we would use because we bet on sanji eating the mera mera?
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Not really.
Vergo seemed to be close to Whitebeard commanders level. Onigumo managed to cuff Marco and was given a mission of getting Ace from Impel Down to Marineford.
There were some other standouts as well.Bartolomeo probably provoked "Capman" to attack him full force and as he seemed brute CQC fighter he easily fallen for Barts DF. Maynard was also said to be new to Vice Admiral business so to say and there is plenty of veterans among them that we didnt seen in real fight yet.
Vergo gotten cut in half but it doesnt mean that he isnt stronger than Law for example. Worf effect is used by Oda but in wider scope than in any other comic book or manga(bit bold statement so I am open for correction).
Smoker and Vergo fallen to DF ability that is definition of word haxed. Maynard- same.
We didnt seen much "raw" fighting from VA so I expect them to be enemies of monster trio at some time in future. Sanji had some raw fight with VA Vergo and it was very close fight even if you arque. Onigumo should be as strong if not stronger atm than Zoro. Doberman could be Dobreman Zoan user and an enemy for Sanji etc - I can go on with those match ups as they seem to make perfect sense imo. Supernovas seem to be as stong as veteran Vice Admirals so its not that bad as you picture it.I have the same problem with it as always: It doesn't matter what we think, it matters what was shown.
It's the same problem as with Blackbeard Pirates: Characters failling is fine, but you need to have some succes to balance it out.
I will just point out that Maynard, with him knocking out a named character that didn't suffered any negative debuffs at the time of the fight, is the most succesful Vice-Admiral shown thus far.
I want you to think about it. The most succesful VA shown thus far… was Maynard.
If "Shark Cutter" Bastille manages to beat one of the Colloseum fighters, he might surpass his achievement.
I would not bet anything on it though. It's more likely he is going to be curbstomped by one. I would bet on Cavendish.
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@.access:
That happens every week. We always get the chapters 4 days before the JUMP is officially released in Japan.
I'm talking about the spoilers/pages from the Jump App, some of them are already out.
Example; chapter 576 of Bleach it's gonna be released next monday in Japan, while spoilers/pages of 577 are already out, Wtf!???, can't explain myself how that happened. -
Yeah you haven't seen that Sanji won't get the Mera Mera either…
So sorry... Barto will stay a pirate
Yeahh, I already gave my speech about that matter and him not getting the fruit doesn't change the fact that Oda has place him in a thick spot since he got into the New World, that's one of the main reason why you're hoping for Jimbi to show up and save his ass, and YES, I see Bartolomeo joining the Revos rather than becoming the Strawhat's shadow.
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@Dahaka.:
Not really, since that term was used by BB on Jaya, and there is evidence showing that Oda had CoC in mind since the very beginning(no, not just Shanks). As for CoO and CoA, you're right, those came into his mind around TB for sure.
I'm surprised how many fans are so wrong about haki.CoA was already showed the first time right after Enies Lobby, when Garp came to visit Luffy and punched him: everyone wondered why he could hurt Luffy who was made of rubber.That time clearly Garp used CoA.Adding to the fact that CoO was shown in Skypeia it seems clear that Oda had everything figured it out from the beginning.
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I have the same problem with it as always: It doesn't matter what we think, it matters what was shown.
It's the same problem as with Blackbeard Pirates: Characters failling is fine, but you need to have some succes to balance it out.
I will just point out that Maynard, with him knocking out a named character that didn't suffered any negative debuffs at the time of the fight, is the most succesful Vice-Admiral shown thus far.
I want you to think about it. The most succesful VA shown thus far… was Maynard.
If "Shark Cutter" Bastille manages to beat one of the Colloseum fighters, he might surpass his achievement.
I would not bet anything on it though. It's more likely he is going to be curbstomped by one. I would bet on Cavendish.
I dont agree with your first line- id does matter what we think as we are always being shown only part of big picture and Oda is basing his storytelling on using small bits of information for us to figure out plenty things that we dont see.
For me most succesful VA was Onigumo ;] He cuffed Marco during war. Also he was pointed to bring Ace from ID to Marineford. Onigumo and Vergo who was boss of New World marine base. Thats something.
Dont count out Marineford and dont make fun out of Vice Admirals by stating that what is hinted doesnt count. They are not absolute Top Dogs but I would expect that some of them still can give beating even to Law.Also Blackbeard pirates are fine the way they are- lucky. To be alive overal. Same like strawhats. But you dont seem to dislike strawhats for their incredible strokes of luck.
Besides.. BB pirates are Yonko crew now so I would say that gotten pretty nice balancing for all their failings.Me is off for some sleep so dont heated up in reply today coz I will be snoring soon and reply tomorrow
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Yeahh, I already gave my speech about that matter and him not getting the fruit doesn't change the fact that Oda has place him in a thick spot since he got into the New World, that's one of the main reason why you're hoping for Jimbi to show up and save his ass, and YES, I see Bartolomeo joining the Revos rather than becoming the Strawhat's shadow.
Nope I hope Jinbe will show up to connect to Big Mom more and let him join as soon as possible to not read shitty nakama debates about him after all these years
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That's clearly "Could he have figured out my weakness?" Dunno about the original Japanese, but the Viz translation in that top left panel is "Impossible … Did that kid ... ?!"
Which implies "It should be impossible, there's no wate- OHHH, BLOOD."
Actually, going by the Viz translation, turn back two pages and he thinks "Impossible! He has no water! How was he able to kick me?" And the page which you used, he goes "You ... ! Did you ... [next panel] "… Use blood?!!"
These two sequences actually imply Crocodile doesn't know that Armament Haki exists more than it does that he considers the possibility of Luffy being able to use it :p
How can you say that Crocodile a New World pirate doesn't know that Haki actually exist, those scenes imply that Crocodile was surprise that Luffy could hit him and it only point toward Haki, but Luffy revealed that he used water and when Luffy fought him without water he was just thinking that Luffy used water but then realized that there has to be something else but he had already discarded the idea of Luffy using haki since he was using water before, this is an open line, so is open to interpretation.
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Nope I hope Jinbe will show up to connect to Big Mom more and let him join as soon as possible to not read shitty nakama debates about him after all these years
Stop laying to yourself Kishido, you know pretty well that If Jimbi shows up now he will help Sanji out, why don't you suggest that Jimbi shows up during the Zou arc or the next one after he meets Big Mama and fix whatever problems he have to solve, but why now? Why when Sanji is probably in a pinch and might be hurt, kidnapped or whatever Oda is trying to do with him.
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I dont agree with your first line- id does matter what we think as we are always being shown only part of big picture and Oda is basing his storytelling on using small bits of information for us to figure out plenty things that we dont see.
But if ability is not shown in any way, it's only informed ability. And we are assuming opponents are going to get stronger from here, right? So when exactly will we see VA's actually doing something?
For me most succesful VA was Onigumo ;] He cuffed Marco during war. Also he was pointed to bring Ace from ID to Marineford. Onigumo and Vergo who was boss of New World marine base. Thats something.
Dont count out Marineford and dont make fun out of Vice Admirals by stating that what is hinted doesnt count. They are not absolute Top Dogs but I would expect that some of them still can give beating even to Law.Yes, I would as well.
Only they don't. And that's the problem.
It's all informed ability. It's "look, those VA's are badass. So that mean when a pirate beats them, it is significante event". Only it's not anymore.
Come on. Would it really be so hard to show, I dunno, Bastille slashing succesfully at Franky? Would it really?
Also Blackbeard pirates are fine the way they are- lucky. To be alive overal. Same like strawhats. But you dont seem to dislike strawhats for their incredible strokes of luck.
Besides.. BB pirates are Yonko crew now so I would say that gotten pretty nice balancing for all their failings.But that's the thing: When we follow the Strawhats, they show actual skills. They don't rely on luck 100% of the time. With Blackbeard pirates, again, almost all of their skills are informed ability. We hear all the time that they are scary and powerful pirate group, but it's almost never shown. I'm hoping it will be remedied in the future, but for now, it's dissapointing.
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It's not relevent in the current discussion, but I think it's spelled Zo. The Emerald City mentioned by Bellamy and the theory of Kaido's men looking like a robot, a lion and a scarecrow might be related to Zo.
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It's not relevent in the current discussion, but I think it's spelled Zo. The Emerald City mentioned by Bellamy and the theory of Kaido's men looking like a robot, a lion and a scarecrow might be related to Zo.
Is not related, but I'm completely clueless, who are you correcting?
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How can you say that Crocodile a New World pirate doesn't know that Haki actually exist, those scenes imply that Crocodile was surprise that Luffy could hit him and it only point toward Haki, but Luffy revealed that he used water and when Luffy fought him without water he was just thinking that Luffy used water but then realized that there has to be something else but he had already discarded the idea of Luffy using haki since he was using water before, this is an open line, so is open to interpretation.
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Stop laying to yourself Kishido, you know pretty well that If Jimbi shows up now he will help Sanji out, why don't you suggest that Jimbi shows up during the Zou arc or the next one after he meets Big Mama and fix whatever problems he have to solve, but why now? Why when Sanji is probably in a pinch and might be hurt, kidnapped or whatever Oda is trying to do with him.
Of course I LAY myself… how can I think that Jinbe may be close to a BIG MOM ship with Pekoms and Tamago on it, who has been at fishmen island as well... And how can I not believe that Sanji ALONE is enough to take on a Big Mom ship alone… OK he has the help of Brook, Nami, Chopper and a child... Yeah it looks really well for the SHs... But you are just so stubborn that you only see Sanji and not the whole context and that there are other people included as well
And yeah... if Sanji is kidnapped, eaten or wtf else I would be OK with, if it would mean we are close to Big Mom arc... Even if I think ALL SHs on the Sunny will have an important role, if Oda took them out from Dressrosa.
But hey you think Sanji needs such good light (or the Mera Mera) that he should off panel Big Mom's crew all alone and maybe Big Mom as well
Seriously... I'm the biggest Sanji fan here around... And he will ever be my favourite. But this doesn't stop me to wish other characters appear or certain things to happen for the sake of the story... You know the story of One Piece... And not the story of Sanji should do everything alone, cuz the oracle Shadowgreed is dissapointed in him and thinks he needs redemption.
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It's not relevent in the current discussion, but I think it's spelled Zo. The Emerald City mentioned by Bellamy and the theory of Kaido's men looking like a robot, a lion and a scarecrow might be related to Zo.
Don't you mean "zO"?
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Is not related, but I'm completely clueless, who are you correcting?
I was correcting you, but I can't say I am 100% about the spelling. It's spelled Zo in my french Volume, but there is horrible translation everywhere.
Why did you mean by "is not related"? I did not get it.Don't you mean "zO"?
LoL exactly !
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Theory time: Kaido will be a new kind of beast that we have never seen before, and the species will be called "draziW".