@Venomous:
One user in the comments posted something that made me think, what if quiet could change her skin color? We saw in the trailer that her face color changed a bit, at first i assumed that was due to a lighting effect, but now this makes a bit more sense, and even more so that she would wear as little as possible if her skin worked like octocamo.
So she's a human cuttlefish?
Reading all the stuff around the character design(here and on gaf), the hilarious theories for it, kojima's own comments and the jabs I can't help but say it succeeded being a pretty interesting one compared to a lot of stuff out there. The first time I saw it I dismissed it as pretty silly and went on with my life but the recent "rage" around it caught my attention.
I personally can't muster any approval or any disapproval towards it the most I can manage is watching all the reaction to it and laugh like a maniac.
Right now I can understand certain position from both side but the one thing I feel is "bring it on Kojima!" I'll accept the challenge, let's see with whatever batshit reason you can come up with to justify it all. It's going to be pretty funny either way.
Let's just hope she won't end up in a half an hour long cutscene where she makes some fried egg.
Kojima has revealed that the current-gen versions will run at 30 FPS while the next-gen versions will be running at 60 FPS. Also here's the TGS demo.
Second TGS demo. First video is on the Xbone, second is on the PS4. Same demo tho. The video and audio quality is better on the PS4 video, also no webcams. But I included the Xbone version just to be fair.
1080P Intro with the English dub.
Cool intro. I actually don't mind that Sutherland is replacing Hayter; I felt that Big Boss should have had a different voice actor from Snake from the beginning tbh.
And Zero better make a physical appearance in this game.
Yeah, I still feel making Hayter Naked Snake was a mistake.
WELP.
Konami just announced that Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain are COMPLETELY SEPERATE RELEASES. Ground Zeroes is basically a large glorified demo to The Phantom Pain that YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR.
It releases this spring for $30 physical or $20 digital. That is bullshit, this is something that should be included in the $60 release of The Phantom Pain. Instead they are milking and people have to spend $80-$90 to get the whole game.
We finally got a release window, and some clarification that these will be two different releases, you can check it out here. And the details below
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Looks like both you and Venomous Warden beat me to the punch.
It should also be worth mentioning that the next gen versions are only coming out digitally (at least at first), and they're $30.
And yeah, I agree this is bullshit, but I'm not terribly surprised either. The fact that Kojima refused to acknowledge whether or not Ground Zeroes was a separate release kind of gave away the fact that that's what they were planning.
WELP. Konami just announced that Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain are COMPLETELY SEPERATE RELEASES. Ground Zeroes is basically a large glorified demo to The Phantom Pain that YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR. It releases this spring for $30 physical or $20 digital. That is bullshit, this is something that should be included in the $60 release of The Phantom Pain. Instead they are milking and people have to spend $80-$90 to get the whole game.
I see a $30 price tag for a physical copy of Ground Zeroes and a $20 price for the digital copy which under normal circumstances would see both copies of the game retailing for $60/$30 nothing shitty about that. The only way I see this as being a legit issue is if the game offers the bare minimum of what people come to expect in an MGS game.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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You say demo, but it is the canonical prequel, right?
I see a $30 price tag for a physical copy of Ground Zeroes and a $20 price for the digital copy which under normal circumstances would see both copies of the game retailing for $60/$30 nothing shitty about that. The only way I see this as being a legit issue is if the game offers the bare minimum of what people come to expect in an MGS game.
Which is exactly what it is. Konami and Kojima themselves as stated Ground Zeroes is merely a short prologue designed to ease players into the new systems and open-ended nature of The Phantom Pain. This prologue may end up being about 10 hours, which while rivals full blown $60 titles in length doesn't change the fact it is essentially a tutorial that should've come included with the upcoming The Phantom Pain, not a cheap $30 cash-grab.
This isn't a prequel, this is content directly torn from a single game to make a quick buck. And because it was ripped content we can't avoid it either if we want the full story. It is mindblowing that Konami actually went and did this and for it, as little as it may be, they're not getting my purchase. I'll wait a few years for the eventual "Complete" edition re-release to come out and then I'll buy that… used, for making me have to wait for such a release in the first place.
Let me put this in perspective for you guys... Ground Zeroes is to the Phantom Pain what the Tanker and Virtuous Mission was to MGS2 and 3 respectively. Should those have been their own seperate releases too? At least in the past Konami milked in a sensible fashion, by putting out an enhanced version of the game a year later that added content and fixed things, but this is just scumbag tactics.
Which is exactly what it is. Konami and Kojima themselves as stated Ground Zeroes is merely a short prologue designed to ease players into the new systems and open-ended nature of The Phantom Pain. This prologue may end up being about 10 hours, which while rivals full blown $60 titles in length doesn't change the fact it is essentially a tutorial that should've come included with the upcoming The Phantom Pain, not a cheap $30 cash-grab. This isn't a prequel, this is content directly torn from a single game to make a quick buck.
Given how PP may or may not come out in 2014, with this looking like it's supposed to tie gamers over until then it's kind of hard to be all that upset about it especially if this is longer than your usual demos. @Buuhan1:
And because it was ripped content we can't avoid it either if we want the full story.
Which knowing most people in this day and age they'll have summed up via Youtube & Wiki Pages like those of us that skipped or never played Metal Gear 1 or 2, Solid, Portable Ops, or Peacewalker. @Buuhan1:
It is mindblowing that Konami actually went and did this and for it, as little as it may be, they're not getting my purchase. I'll wait a few years for the eventual "Complete" edition re-release to come out and then I'll buy that… used, for making me have to wait for such a release in the first place.
It's kind of hard to say they're making you wait for something, when your choosing of your own freewill to wait for such a thing in the first place. @Buuhan1:
Let me put this in perspective for you guys… Ground Zeroes is to the Phantom Pain what the Tanker and Virtuous Mission was to MGS2 and 3 respectively.
Or what the Prolouges of Gran Turismo were to Gran Turismo 4 & 5.
I not buying it till they release a physical version on PS4.
Which will be 10-20 dollars more than every other version, presumably. But hey got it spend it.
Since no one else did, i might as well post the two new things that came out of the ps4 launch
12 minute english GZ gameplay with narration
PS4 exclusive deja vu trailer
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Kinda meh towards the mgs1 stuff, i would have cared more if they made a solid snake model with this games graphical detail not ps1 era uglyness. I mean we already had the face camo in mgs4 and i didnt even care for it then, but perhaps the missions will be worth it.
New poster artwork as well
While PS3/PS4 gets that lame Deja Vu mission, 360/Xbone gets this:
While PS3/PS4 gets that lame Deja Vu mission, 360/Xbone gets this:
Damn, looks way better, well hopefully its only a timed exclusive.
Looks like this will land on march 18th as well, im still unsure if i will get it right away. Im not too eager to pick up a next gen system (especially the first batch) but i want to play this at its best so i may just wait a bit.
lmaooo reminds me of Blood Dragon levels of over the top
Ground Zeroes's cover art has been released.
It's…decent enough, I suppose. I certainly like it better than Guns of the Patriots's. The level of detail on Big Boss's face and beard are quite impressive. The descriptors for the game are out, too. Seems like it's ratcheting up the violence and throwing in f-bombs again. That's to be expected at this point, though. Seems like every developer these days has to make the descriptors more and more brutal/vulgar. What I didn't expect to see was the rarely used "Sexual Violence" descriptor. Hints of the controversy Kojima said the game would cause?
American box art is always pretty bad. They have an obsession with putting close ups of people's faces on them which more often than not looks retarded.
That just gives me flashbacks to the terrible American box art for Heavy Rain. My God, that was bad. That being said, the original box art for MGS4, that I thought would be used in the US, was also a close up of Snake's face.
If they had used this instead, I would've been perfectly fine with it.
Yeah, boxart has been out. They chose to edit out Miller in the overseas release, while he's there behind Big Boss in the Japanese boxart. Something I actually welcome, because the imagery looks flatout ripped from that one promotional picture from The Last of Us.
Also the "sexual violence" has already been confirmed via the ESRB description. There's an audio log which plays what sounds to be a woman getting raped.
That just gives me flashbacks to the terrible American box art for Heavy Rain. My God, that was bad. That being said, the original box art for MGS4, that I thought would be used in the US, was also a close up of Snake's face.
If they had used this instead, I would've been perfectly fine with it.
Hmmm so Lords Of Shadow wasn't the only game with box art where we Americans got the box art featuring the in game character model whereas Japan got hand drawn artwork for it's box art.
I got the limited edition of Lords of Shadow so I got the hand-drawn version. I also personally never got the hate for the US MGS4 boxart, I thought it fit as it's an up close and intimate shot of Solid Snake in a game that is very much an ending journey for him.
^ I think it's part of a trend of artsy game covers > gamecovers featuring in game character models.
Wooooow… and here I thought it was a ripoff expecting it to be like 9 hours.
Wooooow… and here I thought it was a ripoff expecting it to be like 9 hours.
Maybe it'll be 9 hours if you do the sidequests…
but yeah, pretty disappointing length, especially at $30
I still don't get. Is the entire game really that one base? Which you infiltrate over and over again? One mission that was demoed lasted only fifteen mission. So, in the course of those two hours, Big Boss needs to rescue the kid (Phantom Pain trailer also showed what apppeared to be Boss strangling the kid pre-coma) and then toward the end, his base will be attacked and he'll fall into a coma.
I don't know why Kojima is limiting himself to platforms that don't let him do what he wants to do. I heard something similar happened with MGS4 for the PS3 with the sneaking suit, where the original way it worked couldn't be done.
Nobody mentioned it yet, so heres the limited ground zeroes ps4. Japan only for the time being
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Think ill continue to wait till phantom pain is close to coming out myself, we all know that will be in a bundle of some kind possibly with GZ as well
Oh boy, just what I want! The console I'll use for the next 7+ years being branded after a glorified demo! I better preorder this shizz.
(of course the ironic thing is due to how PS4 stock is at the moment if this ever does get released here it may be the only version you CAN buy)
Wait, so the demo is being released as a physical copy as well? I feel it's uneccessary, given how short the demo is, unless the side missions really add time.
I won't bother with the demo unless it's considerably cheaper, or it ends up being freakin' amazing. Until then, I'll wait until Phantom Pain.
@Mr.:
Wait, so the demo is being released as a physical copy as well? I feel it's uneccessary, given how short the demo is, unless the side missions really add time.
I won't bother with the demo unless it's considerably cheaper, or it ends up being freakin' amazing. Until then, I'll wait until Phantom Pain.
You do know its the prologue to phantom pain right? It sounds like you might not, but if so i apologize.
I dont really have that much of a problem with its price or it being released, ill take a little metal gear now if it holds me over till the main course later on.
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@Venomous:
You do know its the prologue to phantom pain right? It sounds like you might not, but if so i apologize.
I dont really have that much of a problem with its price or it being released, ill take a little metal gear now if it holds me over till the main course later on.
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Ah, you're right. That it is. I don't know where I read that it was a demo. No wonder it sounded too stupid to be true.
Regardless, I still don't exactly feel like spending $20 on the supposedly-short prequel, but maybe if it gets great reviews I'll buy it.
@Mr.:
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Ah, you're right. That it is. I don't know where I read that it was a demo. No wonder it sounded too stupid to be true.
Regardless, I still don't exactly feel like spending $20 on the supposedly-short prequel, but maybe if it gets great reviews I'll buy it.
Just so you know, as it appears you may not, it takes 2 hours to complete Ground Zeroes. It's literally a single mission.
Just wait for the inevitable GZ/TPP bundle. There isn't any way that's not happening in the future.
Just so you know, as it appears you may not, it takes 2 hours to complete Ground Zeroes. It's literally a single mission.
I know, that's the exact reason I didn't want to get it at that price. I just didn't know it wasn't a demo.
Of course, it doesn't take exploration into consideration, let alone any other features that could prolong the length.
@Mr.:
I know, that's the exact reason I didn't want to get it at that price. I just didn't know it wasn't a demo.
Of course, it doesn't take exploration into consideration, let alone any other features that could prolong the length.
Exactly, not every playthrough will be the same, and im sure most could get a lot more out of it than that. I think some are getting a bit more bent out of shape then its worth over the length. Ill be waiting though, since there is no reason for me to get a ps4 at the moment, and like what was said earlier there will probably be a bundle between the two or even with a newer ps4 by the time phantom pain rolls around.
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@Venomous:
Exactly, not every playthrough will be the same, and im sure most could get a lot more out of it than that. I think some are getting a bit more bent out of shape then its worth over the length. Ill be waiting though, since there is no reason for me to get a ps4 at the moment, and like what was said earlier there will probably be a bundle between the two or even with a newer ps4 by the time phantom pain rolls around.
Well the main thing is the exorbitant price of $30 for just a prologue of the game. Sure you can have a few missions outside of the main storyline, but so did Peace Walker. At the very least, they should have some more beef to the main part to sell it for this price.
Unless they included quite an array of content outside of the main scenario, this really is more or less just a showcase of the FOX engine.
I wish one of these review sites would give an estimate of how long it is when you do everything. I would imagine it's at least 6, which is still a bit short for an average price of $30. Still. That's also a massive improvement over two hours.
Also, Gametrailers did a comparison of all four versions. http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/8n0uaa/metal-gear-solid-v–ground-zeroes-console-quality-comparison In all honesty, I'm not seeing a HUGE leap here. It's definitely there, but the fact that last gen doesn't look like such a step down is more comforting, since I'm sure most of us will be getting it on PS3 and 360.
From what I read, the 2 hours Game Informer gave WAS for everything the game had to offer (with the exception of replays on higher difficulities).
Metal Gear Solid IV is only 5 hours without the cutscenes :\
I understand people are upset but I guess I don't see the big deal. Blu-Ray movies are the same length and cost about the same.
This is a video game, not a movie.
From what I read, the 2 hours Game Informer gave WAS for everything the game had to offer (with the exception of replays on higher difficulities).
"During our four hours with the game we each played through the main story twice (our second playthroughs were significantly shorter because we knew where to go and were skipping cutscenes), [a side mission where Snake rescues a VIP, and the console-exclusive Déjà Vu and Jamais Vu modes.]" - GameInformer
They only did one of five side missions (I'm not counting the console-exclusives here), so there's definitely more than two hours worth of content overall. This would be probably be disastrous for Konami if the entire package was only two hours long.
This is a video game, not a movie.
Oh, good. Someone other than me is sick of people beating that dead horse into the ground. I'd figure that nearly 6 years later, the lowest common denominator would realise that calling MGS4 "the greatest movie on PS3" is not clever, funny or original.
Looks like konami heard all the fuss people were making
They've now slightly reduced the price of the PS4 and Xbone versions
http://kotaku.com/konami-cuts-the-price-on-metal-gear-solid-v-ground-ze-1530492038
$20 is a more reasonable price, although I wish it were more oriented for both versions, but w/e.
The gesture is welcome, but it should be even cheaper than that. Does anyone remember Dead Rising 2: Case Zero? It is essentially the same thing as this. It was a 5 hour prequel to Dead Rising 2 with all the games mechanics at your desposal and they threw it up on XBLA for $5.
