That said, perhaps a little hypocritically, Red Hawk's newness to the game makes me less worried both about him being scum to begin with, and about being outwitted by him if he is. By the way, Red Hawk, if you want to switch your vote to a new person you have to write "unvote" in bold first, as many of us have done.
I can agree with this. There are probably more dangerous people around atm. Will elaborate later.
Of the current wagons, I don't really support any of them other than the one I'm on. I suppose if my hand were forced I'd switch to vor, but that wagon also puzzles me. I'd almost rather vote for almost anyone who DOESN'T have a wagon. wintergt's conclusion that my confrontation indicates I'm town is not enough to convince me he's town, Galaxy is the only one not to vote and has mostly posted doubts and nothing more, Kitsu was really eager to prod the setup with a no-lynch but changed his mind rather easily and now wants to jump on pretty much any wagon as long as it's a wagon (and has already wagon-hopped), Iceburg has been pretty thorough in her observations and I like her posts but I don't necessarily trust her (plus she is trying to distract everyone from her posts with boobs).
I kind of agree with you here, but we can't exactly start a wagon on everyone now. We just have to make up our minds: do we go with the inevitable lurker-lynch (if we don't do it now, we'll do it later); or do we go after one of the more active members?
I'm starting to lean towards the latter. Lurker lynches are always an easy decision, and as I said, inevitable. Lynching an active player is more risky, but also more rewarding. We risk losing a valuable player, but their death will give us more insight than that of someone who rarely posted.
That being said, Kitsune's behaviour has been irking me for a while now. First he advocates a No Lynch, then he jumps on vorlianis, then he flips to a lurker after people point out the suspicion in the vor wagon.
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Vote Lynch: Kitsune Inferno
Kitsune, you say about the Red Hawk wagon: "it's a good wagon as any". Do you literally not care who we lynch today?
@Harvady:
I'm slightly confused by this. I voted after Shuhan was taken from the game and wintergt had post several times. Is that not what you're talking about?
I meant that you first wanted to lynch a lurker, and then changed to the wagon of a fairly active player, rather than choosing another lurker (there were plenty there, including trapped who also had a wagon on her already).
@Harvady:
I didn't give a reason because I wanted to see if people would follow despite that. There was plenty of reason to vote anybody at that point, and no other wagon had yet made it that far.
And nobody followed, for obvious reasons. See my post below.
@Harvady:
People are happy to talk about lynching lurkers for the sake of town, but we all know that we aren't going to find mafia there. Mafia wants to be relevant but not memorable. vorlianis fits that bill, along with trappedolphin and Mrs. Iceburg.
You don't find me memorable? I'm insulted. We can't all take the reins, you know.
@Harvady:
vorlianis wagon:
That was a wagon with three votes. Five to lynch. Next vote is L-1. That means a claim, but I don't even want to hear any claim unless people are going to take them seriously enough to act on them. It was part of the reason I voted vorlianis-being third on the wagon would mean that the next vote brought scrutiny of the wagon. I was fine with that, but it looks like the wagon was taken apart from the outside. It's one thing if you don't agree, and another to denounce it.
Why was it that Galaxy had been compliant enough to defy the deadline I set for Shuhan, but not enough to put vorlianis at L-1?
Why was Mrs. Iceburg defending vorlianis? This is the same Madame Iceburg who baited people into rushing the day, yes? She's taking this wagon seriously, despite that the first vote was made lightly, and the third vote was made to supplement one on a now removed player.
Was the third vote a sign that called for immediate defense? Red's at three, but I don't see anyone rushing to his aid.
I wasn't defending vorlianis. Just pointing out that his wagon was senseless and suspicious – as did Foolio and Galaxy 9000. Sure you wanted to get a reaction out of people, but you got the wrong kind of reaction, because your action was too brazen. Tell me what's more suspicious: you jumping on a two-vote half-assed bandwagon, or three people calling that strange? You're on the wrong track here.
Red Hawk is most likely not scum. He was just an unfortunate lurker, and if he doesn't step up his game, he'll be lynched anyway sooner or later. Hence my vote on Kitsune now.