Are Trébol, Diamante and Spades Guy actually part of Doflamingo's crew or are they more akin to Bellamy (not crewmates, but still subordinates), except much stronger?
One Piece 700 : His Pace
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Are Trébol, Diamante and Spades Guy actually part of Doflamingo's crew or are they more akin to Bellamy (not crewmates, but still subordinates), except much stronger?
I'd definitely say direct subordinates, who are the heads of Doffys many operations.
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@wolfwoof:
Oh nothing nothing at all. Everything seems a little sweeter already
Oh hush, don't make my moustache blush~
By the way, even though I was half joking with the Strawberry (Tallhead) thing, I can imagine him being Fujitora. It's for sure isn't Doberman, Onigumo (even if he's some kind of a tiger-spider, it would make more sense to call him spider, not tiger). Comil, Lacroix, Ronse, John Giant, Stainless, Dalmatian, Cancer, Mozambia and Tsuru are excluded as well. That leaves Strawberry, Yamakaji and Bastille.
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Oh hush, don't make my moustache blush~
By the way, even though I was half joking with the Strawberry (Tallhead) thing, I can imagine him being Fujitora. It's for sure isn't Doberman, Onigumo (even if he's some kind of a tiger-spider, it would make more sense to call him spider, not tiger). Comil, Lacroix, Ronse, John Giant, Stainless, Dalmatian, Cancer, Mozambia and Tsuru are excluded as well. That leaves Strawberry, Yamakaji and Bastille.
What would Strawberry's devil fruit be?
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@wolfwoof:
Yeah let's not go to AP those guys always have way to much fun
For that matter isn't like 90% of all the english OP information floating around siphoned from AP
I know this place is fun, we can spend hours reading others people's thought but still people trow everything that comes to their head without thinking.
I read one that said that may be DD put a lot of fruits at Marine ford before the war started so when people with DF die, he can go and pick the DF up, I was like really just think about MF before a war and a shishibukai as DD walking around trowing, hiding apples, bananas,watermelons, cherries is just stupid in my opinion other people might be going crazy with speculations and theories about DD and his bag of fruits.
I'm not done read all ur opinions yet there but as someone who think Luffy wont care about the fruit, I need to reply to you statement there.
I checked my head and think as you said there, so I wanna ask you now.
"he loves he's family more than anything in the OP world, he went against the WG for his nakama". - Then you mean that fruit is comparable with his nakama??? Who is spent time with Luffy in his chilhood? The fruit?? NO, it's Ace!! Who cares for Luffy so he isn't feel lonely in his chilhood? The fruit?? NO, it's Ace!! You compare people with fruit, check your head first beffore you tell other people to ccheck their.
Is Luffy we're talking about here and I'm not comparing, Ace was everything to Luffy and this was Ace's fruit, his identity (fire fist ace), Luffy got a move that represents Ace himself (red hawk) and now that DF appears, Luffy won't hesitate for the fruit and his crew knows it, the only one I see having a problem with this is Law because Luffy plus crew will be at the coliseum and DD watching them.
now you give me your reasons, why Luffy won't care about it?
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What would Strawberry's devil fruit be?
I don't think it's absolutely necessary for him to have one.
On the contrary, I'd love to see Strawberry with some kind of flower fruit for the hilarity and to see what would Oda make out of it.
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I don't think it's absolutely necessary for him to have one.
On the contrary, I'd love to see Strawberry with some kind of flower fruit for the hilarity and to see what would Oda make out of it.
I would love to see a Admiral without a Devil Fruit, honestly. Flower fruit? Something like that is funny/
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Oh hush, don't make my moustache blush~
By the way, even though I was half joking with the Strawberry (Tallhead) thing, I can imagine him being Fujitora. It's for sure isn't Doberman, Onigumo (even if he's some kind of a tiger-spider, it would make more sense to call him spider, not tiger). Comil, Lacroix, Ronse, John Giant, Stainless, Dalmatian, Cancer, Mozambia and Tsuru are excluded as well. That leaves Strawberry, Yamakaji and Bastille.
If Fujitora means purple tiger I think it's some ex Vice admiral who kept an eye in the new world who wasn't present in the war. Then the 3rd admiral is one of the currently known VA's.
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Oh hush, don't make my moustache blush~
By the way, even though I was half joking with the Strawberry (Tallhead) thing, I can imagine him being Fujitora. It's for sure isn't Doberman, Onigumo (even if he's some kind of a tiger-spider, it would make more sense to call him spider, not tiger). Comil, Lacroix, Ronse, John Giant, Stainless, Dalmatian, Cancer, Mozambia and Tsuru are excluded as well. That leaves Strawberry, Yamakaji and Bastille.
what about Bogart?
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I did think, and I came up with the conclusion that you have an ulterior motive to make us all blind or in need of an inch thick glasses by forcing your main font size to "absolutely tiny".
(>_<)
Ahh sorry about that, my laptop is connected to the TV though…
@Maynard:
I totally forgot about Bonney and her powers. It's not 100% sure if Bonney made Akainu or other Marines younger but it's certainly possible and would actually be pretty awesome.
yeah, Akainu looks is his 30s and seems like he have a lot confidence in this admiral. sending him alone (we don't really know though) to fight the strawhats/law and may be DD
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@Maynard:
If Fujitora means purple tiger I think it's some ex Vice admiral who kept an eye in the new world who wasn't present in the war. Then the 3rd admiral is one of the currently known VA's.
There don't have to be 3 admirals.
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I love how the most important detail of this chapter is in the cover page..
Oda stretching out Caribou’s journey was so it coincided with it.Law tells us that returning Caesar to Doffy on Green Bit is just a decoy so they can sneak into Dressrosa to destroy the Smile factory, the only problem is that the factory’s location was the only thing he had no information on.. He just assumed Doffy would have had it built on his own island. But, it’s actually on Kaidou’s favourite island (as seen in the picture).
Things aren’t going to be moving at his pace anymore, especially when he learns the whereabouts of the factory..Also, Franky’s gonna be pissed that his laser gets put on hold.
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Oh hush, don't make my moustache blush~
By the way, even though I was half joking with the Strawberry (Tallhead) thing, I can imagine him being Fujitora. It's for sure isn't Doberman, Onigumo (even if he's some kind of a tiger-spider, it would make more sense to call him spider, not tiger). Comil, Lacroix, Ronse, John Giant, Stainless, Dalmatian, Cancer, Mozambia and Tsuru are excluded as well. That leaves Strawberry, Yamakaji and Bastille.
Even though we've seen Momonga after time skip he could be the purple tiger. Unless he was called by his rank back then. If they fed him a powerful DF (I bet WG has tons of those just lying around) he could be strong enough to be an admiral. I think his stripes were purple in the anime, too. I'd love seeing him in a more important role because I really liked him. We also know nothing about him so far, other than he uses a sword. He's not so gimmicky and his neat suit and enormous upper body kind of reminds me of Garp.
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now you give me your reasons, why Luffy won't care about it?
Why should he? Luffy spent his chilhood time with Ace, not the fruit. It's Ace who sacrificed his life for Luffy, not the fruit. Luffy should care about the fruit if it was the fruit who controled Ace but it's not, Ace is the one who controled the fruit. Your post seems like you know everything and others don't.
And just so you know, this is forum, a place where people share their opinions, not force other people to accept their own ideas, like you laugh at people who said DD put alot fruits at MF (I'm not agree with that theory too, but your post such disrespect to others opinion).
Is Luffy we're talking about here and I'm not comparing, Ace was everything to Luffy and this was Ace's fruit, his identity (fire fist ace), Luffy got a move that represents Ace himself (red hawk) and now that DF appears, Luffy won't hesitate for the fruit and his crew knows it, the only one I see having a problem with this is Law because Luffy plus crew will be at the coliseum and DD watching them.
Yeah… Right... Oda.. Tell me more, what is Bonney's DF again? Who she make younger? How the OP will end?
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@Maynard:
If Fujitora means purple tiger I think it's some ex Vice admiral who kept an eye in the new world who wasn't present in the war. Then the 3rd admiral is one of the currently known VA's.
That is entirely possible. I'm a little against Oda pulling such a character out of the blue, but he could make it happen right.
Although I see the logic behind that character not having been in the war.what about Bogart?
He's not Fujitora in my opinion. As for another Admiral, it's not impossible, and maybe it's a way to keep an eye on things for Garp and Sengoku. They may be old and resigned (partly), but I believe they still care greatly about the Marines, and don't want the whole thing to be ABSOLUTE-JUSTICE-á-la-Sakazuki sandwich all over.
Still, Bogart seems more like a spy/secret agent character, which doesn't fit into what I think and Admiral is supposed to be.
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I know this place is fun, we can spend hours reading others people's thought but still people trow everything that comes to their head without thinking.
I read one that said that may be DD put a lot of fruits at Marine ford before the war started so when people with DF die, he can go and pick the DF up, I was like really just think about MF before a war and a shishibukai as DD walking around trowing, hiding apples, bananas,watermelons, cherries is just stupid in my opinion other people might be going crazy with speculations and theories about DD and his bag of fruits.
Hang on now. You noticed there was something not quite right with the "theory" but failed to recognize it as a joke? I don't think it's healthy to take everything dead seriously.
I mean really. I'm cracking up even when reading your explanation about it.
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What would Strawberry's devil fruit be?
He could have the Fruit Fruit Fruit, giving others temporary powers or something
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@Стрелок:
There don't have to be 3 admirals.
It would be unwise to have less admirals than before. It would make the marines look weaker.
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@Tom:
Even though we've seen Momonga after time skip he could be the purple tiger. Unless he was called by his rank back then. If they fed him a powerful DF (I bet WG has tons of those just lying around) he could be strong enough to be an admiral. I think his stripes were purple in the anime, too. I'd love seeing him in a more important role because I really liked him. We also know nothing about him so far, other than he uses a sword. He's not so gimmicky and his neat suit and enormous upper body kind of reminds me of Garp.
Stainless has a similar build too, so that's hardly a factor.
While I can't help but sigh whenever people say Hancock made Momonga his youknowwhat, I don't see him as Admiral material. He's a perfect Vice-Admiral, but his development so far indicates that he's no more. If Oda planned something so big with him, he would've done things differently, in my opinion.
Yes, his purple stripes does make him suspicious though :)
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Prepare yourselves to see the second-most-funny-op-face-ever if DD discover that Luffy doesn't give a single f*** about the fruit (if he really doesn't). The first one was the Enel's face.
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Did anyone else find it funny that Law was eatting onigiri instead of sandwiches?
I think the strawhats are all going to go on individual tangents; Law will probably head to Donflamingo's castle while Luffy might head to the collessum just because i sounds interesting(and acidently find the smile factory hidden underneath the collesum.
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@Kyoji:
Prepare yourselves to see the second-most-funny-op-face-ever if DD discover that Luffy doesn't give a single f*** about the fruit (if he really doesn't). The first one was the Enel's face.
Maybe you forgot about Ivankov's faces when he heard that Luffy is Dragon's son. :ninja:
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It would be unwise to have less admirals than before. It would make the marines look weaker.
Okay, where did I say that there are less that 3 admirals?
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@Стрелок:
There don't have to be 3 admirals.
@Стрелок:
Okay, where did I say that there are less that 3 admirals?
Good god, kill it with fire. Please.
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Why should he? Luffy spent his chilhood time with Ace, not the fruit. It's Ace who sacrificed his life for Luffy, not the fruit. Luffy should care about the fruit if it was the fruit who controled Ace but it's not, Ace is the one who controled the fruit. Your post seems like you know everything and others don't.
And just so you know, this is forum, a place where people share their opinions, not force other people to accept their own ideas, like you laugh at people who said DD put alot fruits at MF (I'm not agree with that theory too, but your post such disrespect to others opinion).
Yeah… Right... Oda.. Tell me more, what is Bonney's DF again? Who she make younger? How the OP will end?
why should he? because it was Ace property, it can be interpreted like this: Zorro with Kuina's sword, Kuina died and Zoro wanted her sword because he made a promise with her, If they didn't care about those stuff Zoro wouldn't ask for the sword in the first place, Nami with bell'mere tangerines even though she is dead, nami still have it, so why is that?
I know what a forum is and I said it in the first post, I like to read other people's thought but some of those same thought are way to stupid or how much of you called far fetched, about DD and the fruits, I knew somebody will react that way, I laugh when I was writing it.
Akainu knows Bonnie, he was afraid when he found out that she escaped and we know that her power can be one of the most dangerous power in OP also Akainu look way too young after time skip than before time skip, he even look a little bit order than the color spread.
I'm not Oda, I don't wish to be Oda because it will take all the fun away.
PS: I'm not forcing my thoughts into anyone, they have their own mind to think for them self and know what is right and wrong.
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Oh yeah the body structure was more about me liking his looks, not reasoning why he'd be suitable to be an admiral.
To be honest I doubt any of the vice admirals we've seen so far is going to be Fujitora. When you compare Onigumo and friends to Kuzan or Borsalino when they were vice admirals, it's quite clear that they aren't meant to be interesting or really powerful. From looks to powers I think the admiral is going to be something as awesome as the three we know of. Or maybe I'm going to get disappointed when he's revealed.
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@Tom:
Hang on now. You noticed there was something not quite right with the "theory" but failed to recognize it as a joke? I don't think it's healthy to take everything dead seriously.
I mean really. I'm cracking up even when reading your explanation about it.
I just told Jyuunishinshon that I was laughing while writing that part.
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@nodensuke:
Good god, kill it with fire. Please.
Thank you for the relevant and not-at-all-retarded post.
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Some notes on this chapter. (I couldn't read all the pages before. So, sorry if I'm repeating here some points already pointed.)
Does Doffy know it?
One possibility we have to consider is that Dofla is guessing that Law is trying to reach the Smile Factory. To Doffy’s eyes, the only thing that Law is requesting him in exchange of Caesar is the resignation to the Shichibukai. But Law’s, now imprudent, words to him were: “[the heavy weights of the new generation are coming. We will smash your gears](http://(http://www.batoto.net/read/_/143850/one-piece_ch690_by_mangarule/17)”, is telling him Law is going for more. Of course, he knows to smash his gears Caesar can be used not only to provoke his resignation, a relative minor lost, but also to provoke a major lost, like the falling of his current business with the underworld and the pirates. Law calculated that to get that, kidnaping Caesar and destroying the SAD production room wasn’t enough: the smile factory should have to be destroyed too: and if Law calculated this, Doffy knows it for sure. That would be much more something like “smashing his gears”, than the solely resignation. So, it’s not a difficult guess….
Can a burden be not a burden?
What is Doffy doing in front of such a panorama? To say it again, he could be waiting for Law in Dressrosa. But, as far as we know, also he’s trying to play with Luffy in order to stop Law: “Doflamingo: That Alliance would become nothing but a burden to him.” I think that’s a riscky strategy: he ignores how powerful Luffy and his crew are. Possibly he has no alternatives or very few. But it would be possible that he stop Law, but not Luffy.
Now, Dofla ignores the whole Samurai thing, and that too can be a burden to Law. But here again, the burden can turn in a factor of success. Kankuro let himself to be captured and Wano Samurais are famous for their strength. So here, Wano samurais are also enemies that Dofla is not aware of in these critical moments.
It’s worth to say it. Dofla thinks he is dealing with an alliance of two parts: Law and Straw hats. But actually he’s dealing with an alliance of three parts: Law, the Straw hats and at least, two powerful Wano Samurais.
“Ok, I will take down the Yonkou, but first I have to …”
We already saw Luffy said this to Law when he decided that the wish of their crew to rescue the children was something they would do before to focus on the next step in Law’s plan. He has no hurries. And, as reader, something very enjoyable of their relationship is that, in contrast to that Luffy’s attitude, time is crucial in Law’s plan. Some steps have to be done in a critical period of time, and he’s very serious about it. I wonder not if Luffy will tell that again to Law, but when.
That is related to the way the plot is developing: the events of Law’s plan and the events related to the problem that is affecting the land of Wano are intertwined. To being with, it was Momo’s story that firstly pissed off Luffy in regards with Caesar. Now, rescuing Kankuro could be increasing the burden to Law’s plan, but as I said, also provides the alliance with new members. And arriving Zou is not the last step in Law’s plan, and also something that the Samurais have to do in order to solve their problem whatever it is. I really like this tasty cocktail of happenings. In part, because it sinks me into a permanent condition of uncertainty.
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So do you think there should be no humour allowed in here or why would you complain about it.
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why should he? because it was Ace property, it can be interpreted like this: Zorro with Kuina's sword, Kuina died and Zoro wanted her sword because he made a promise with her, If they didn't care about those stuff Zoro wouldn't ask for the sword in the first place, Nami with bell'mere tangerines even though she is dead, nami still have it, so why is that?
I know what a forum is and I said it in the first post, I like to read other people's thought but some of those same thought are way to stupid or how much of you called far fetched, about DD and the fruits, I knew somebody will react that way, I laugh when I was writing it.
Akainu knows Bonnie, he was afraid when he found out that she escaped and we know that her power can be one of the most dangerous power in OP also Akainu look way too young after time skip than before time skip, he even look a little bit order than the color spread.
I'm not Oda, I don't wish to be Oda because it will take all the fun away.
PS: I'm not forcing my thoughts into anyone, they have their own mind to think for them self and know what is right and wrong.
Your explanation is more reasonable this time than before when you said Luffy cares about nakama, friends, and family and why not about fruit (which I think is way too stupid as your reason to cares about the fruit) but this explanation is argueable better than before. I'm not deny this is good reason IMHO.
You think you're smarter than those people? You think their theory is way too stupid said that you're smarter and know better than others.
I don't said Akainu didn't know Bonney, heck Akainu is the one who captured her (originally BB but BB ran after saw Akainu came in the battleship). As Akainu looks younger than before, man your imagination is too wild, I didn't see Akainu got younger, sorry LOL.
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Akainu scared when he knew that Bonney ran away? But part of "her power can be one of the most dangerous power in OP" I don't see it, you make it looks like Akainu shitting his pants because Bonney is too powerful or whatever but I see it more like Akainu concenr about a pirate (which is one of Supernovas) ran away, nothing THAT special as most dangerous part. -
She must join!
Look we all have our nakama candidates, whether those candidates are respected or not. Mine is Bonny. Join the crew damnit!!
Then she and Luffy could have an eating contest.
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That coliseum sounds like a lot of fun. I wonder if they have a BIG awakened Bull Fruit Zoan there??? thinking
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That coliseum sounds like a lot of fun. I wonder if they have a BIG awakened Bull Fruit Zoan there??? thinking
![](http://user.nwf.free.fr/rock_gui/Listing One Piece/Episode 82/Ushi Ushi no Mi, hybride.png)
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@Стрелок:
Thank you for the relevant and not-at-all-retarded post.
You remind me of Strelok. Just this time you seem to be a Russian version of him.
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@Стрелок:
[http://user.nwf.free.fr/rock_gui/Listing One Piece/Episode 82/Ushi Ushi no Mi, hybride.png](http://user.nwf.free.fr/rock_gui/Listing One Piece/Episode 82/Ushi Ushi no Mi, hybride.png)
That is a bison but now that think about it. There was a bull in Impel Down wasn't there. OOOps
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You remind me of Strelok. Just this time you seem to be a Russian version of him.
I am the one and only Strelok. :ninja:
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@Стрелок:
I am the one and only Strelok. :ninja:
Now you only have to start talking about Sabo and everything will be right again.
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Originally posted this theory about Fujitora around page5, but they barrelled past at light speed then: Jewelry Bonney IS Fujitora.
Reasoning:
We see JB in this issue on a snow island. Last we saw she was captured by the Navy.
In this chapter we see the Navy saying they've already sent Fujitora to investigate.
This would explain why JB is free. And Punk Hazard has got it's fair share of snow.
The translation suggests a pink/ purple colour scheme which would fit JB.
JB may not like the Navy but she has a bigger grudge against Blackbeard and is not fond of the Straw Hats.
JB already has a link to the Navy, we know from Akainu, what that is we don't know.It's slim but there's no evidence the directly counters it.
This is definitely very interesting.
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Now you only have to start talking about Sabo and everything will be right again.
Man, you're killing me here.
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Now you only have to start talking about Sabo and everything will be right again.
Sabo is old news, that crab seems to be the new trend.
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What ever happened to our obsession with Pandaman?
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@Стрелок:
Sabo is old news, that crab seems to be the new trend.
Confirmed. You aren't Strelok.
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@nodensuke:
Good god, kill it with fire. Please.
Quick, let's toss it into the fires of Mordor!!!
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Quick, let's toss it into the fires of Mordor!!!
http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/229934/fire-animated-hot-burn.gif
16 chars of please do
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Confirmed. You aren't Strelok.
Sadly it's just an impostor trying to imitate the enlightened one. Sabo would turn in his grave (if he were dead).
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R.I.P Strelok
Even though you were a dick!
I still liked you.. in a way
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I was just kidding with the crab thing. If I was serious I would add the official arlong park forum serious smiley - :ninja:.
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@Tom:
So do you think there should be no humor allowed in here or why would you complain about it.
I never said there should be no humor, I just said that there's a lot of crazy/stupid theories out there, nothing more, I laugh with some of those but some of them just want to make me cry
Your explanation is more reasonable this time than before when you said Luffy cares about nakama, friends, and family and why not about fruit (which I think is way too stupid as your reason to cares about the fruit) but this explanation is argueable better than before. I'm not deny this is good reason IMHO.
You think you're smarter than those people? You think their theory is way too stupid said that you're smarter and know better than others.
I don't said Akainu didn't know Bonney, heck Akainu is the one who captured her (originally BB but BB ran after saw Akainu came in the battleship). As Akainu looks younger than before, man your imagination is too wild, I didn't see Akainu got younger, sorry LOL.
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Akainu scared when he knew that Bonney ran away? But part of "her power can be one of the most dangerous power in OP" I don't see it, you make it looks like Akainu shitting his pants because Bonney is too powerful or whatever but I see it more like Akainu concenr about a pirate (which is one of Supernovas) ran away, nothing THAT special as most dangerous part.Because he cares about nakamas/family and it can be interpreted as my last comment in a way, the thing is that people always need more than what they can have.
I don't think I'm smarter than anyone but I do think their theories are stupid/far far fetched and I don't know nothing.
I posted some images about Akainu and his sudden change but it seems no everybody can see it.
! http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/106/58-595.0/compressed/l595.09.jpg?v=11285039170
Bonnie has the ability to change your age, makes you younger or older at her will, she can change anyone and If that power gets in the wrong hand thing will get ugly, the marines/WG can be young forever and Pirates can as well, imagine If shiki gets younger all of a sudden, you think he will do nothing, he'll be back to the ocean to create havoc and the same can apply to those pirates from Rogers era, she isn't powerful in fighting ability but her ability it is. -
@Стрелок:
I was just kidding with the crab thing. If I was serious I would add the official arlong park forum serious smiley - :ninja:.
:ninja:
Then say…. Who's that 7th Shichibukai?
ps: Strelok 100000000000% will reply Sabo :ninja:
I never said there should be no humor, I just said that there's a lot of crazy/stupid theories out there, nothing more, I laugh with some of those but some of them just want to make me cry
Because he cares about nakamas/family and it can be interpreted as my last comment in a way, the thing is that people always need more than what they can have.
I don't think I'm smarter than anyone but I do think their theories are stupid/far far fetched and I don't know nothing.
I posted some images about Akainu and his sudden change but it seems no everybody can see it.
! http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/106/58-595.0/compressed/l595.09.jpg?v=11285039170
Bonnie has the ability to change your age, makes you younger or older at her will, she can change anyone and If that power gets in the wrong hand thing will get ugly, the marines/WG can be young forever and Pirates can as well, imagine If shiki gets younger all of a sudden, you think he will do nothing, he'll be back to the ocean to create havoc and the same can apply to those pirates from Rogers era, she isn't powerful in fighting ability but her ability it is.Le sigh… I don't see the way you saw Akainu got younger in ANY way ( I can see that picture you linked to). I just don't see what part of the pictures you showed make you can tell Akainu got younger (that what i mean if you don't get it insert smoker's facepalm pic).
Can you please SHOW me the proof about that red bold part? Because as long as I can recall, the manga never stated that way. Please, pretty please and don't tell me thaat just bassed ffrom your wild imagination fan fiction