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Disclaimer: Let it be known that I am a solid Rob Lucci/CP9/Rokushiki cocksucker. I suck Lucci's big, black cock, so any bias I may show throughout this post should be attributed to that fact.
Point # 1. Mental Masturbation
Some of these arguments hold some truth, but here's a better suggestion. Why don't we just talk to someone from Japan and have them mail Oda an SBS asking how Lucci's power compares with the known Shichibukai and with Eneru. That way, we won't have any problems.
Point # 2: "OP is NOT DBZ!"
Right. And Eneru, as well as majority of the Logia users we've seen so far exhibit an ability a-la DBZ. Eneru's lightning bolts, Ace's fire, Dragon's weather control etc.. are the closest thing to a Ki blast in OP.
Some of the Eneru supporters are right. Assuming that OP holds true some laws of physics in real life (ie: You cannot survive, let alone, out-run lightning, no matter how fast you are), then…yes. Eneru > Lucci and everyone else. If this was the case, then it would really, really suck (at least, for me) if Logia users >>>>>>> everyone else. I mean, so what if Roger or Whitebeard has uber fighting abilities? If Eneru was THAT powerful, then 1 zap of a 100000000000000 V lightning would kill them.
Question is, would the Eneru supporters even want THAT sort of scenario? As it's kinda obvious that the same supporters were the ones saying "Hey, OP ain't DBZ!"
Point # 3: Mantra
I absolutely HATE any character in any story with the ability to predict/foresee the future movement of his/her enemy.
Why? Because it kills any excitement. And because overcoming an opponent with an oracle-like ability would lead to another...OMGZORSLORS OH NOES! DBZ syndrome.
How did Luffy beat Eneru?
-Rubber > Lightning
-His last attack was too fast, even for Eneru's mantra
Er...so, in order for you to beat the "oracle", you just have to be faster than his/her reaction. Does that sound DBZ to you? It is to me.
That being said, what could possibly hinder Oda from using Rokushiki as means of Lucci owning Eneru? I mean, I imagine an SBS like this:
Fan: Oda-sensei. How can Lucci possibly defeat a man like Eneru?
Oda: Well, with Tekkai Gou, he can withstand ANY lightning attack by Eneru, even if it was infinite voltage. Also, with Soru, he can outclass even Eneru's mantra.
Sounds plausible to you? In real life, of course not. We often forget that this is just fiction and tha anything can happen. I often wonder how fans could argue that "Lucci will die if Eneru blows up the island that he's in" and take that as logic based on real life when you have Luffy as someone who gained rubber abilities just by eating a devil fruit. I mean, if Oda wants Lucci to be greater than Eneru or the Shichibukai in terms of power/fighting ability/winning ability, he can do so with ANY reasoning and you'd have to take that as canon since it's the author who stated that fact.
Now, as final words, here are my questions.
1. Have Lucci/Croc/Eneru/Other Shichibukai had any chance to fight one-on-one at all?
2. Where is it stated in OP that Eneru > Lucci > Croc or whatever?
The answer to both is NO. So, all we can do is imply and use our OWN judgement (based on real life situations, oftentimes) to determine who's stronger. BUT if the mangaka says "well, Morgan owns them all, so screw you", who's gonna stop him?
"But...with this [INSERT SOUND LOGIC ACCORDING TO MANGA HERE], I can prove that Eneru > Lucci!"
Shut up. I don't want to hear your say. If the mangaka does not present us a clear picture as to who's stronger, then I will hold everything as just speculation (some baseless, some outright ridiculous, others with sound reasong but STILL an assumption nonetheless).
I rest my case. :D
PS: I do know one thing for sure. Lucci's goatie > Eneru's chicken-chin earlobes.