Beelzebub

poopbucket

I swear if this arc doesn't end with our characters appreciating Furuichi a bit more and instead be "hur hur Mob-ichi you are a pedo and a loser, you deserve to be in the hospital for being a idiot, oh look have your gay moment with Alaindelon, end the arc" I will be so dissapointed with this series. Even more than with that botched Behemoth arc.

I totally agree. It's time for Furuichi's redemption. Or at least some actual friendship between Furuichi and Oga. I dont even know why they are friends, I guess Furuichi uses Oga for protection or something….. All I can say is I hope its an actual fight with actual heartfelt moments rather than the usual Beelzebub of 'lets almost have a tearjerking moment and then ruin it at the last moment or sooner.'
OR
Furuichi will call out Behemoth himself. Then we basically get Behemoth v Oga.
I'd rather have the heartelt stuff. Fix whats there first, then bring us new stuff, Tamura.

TLC

@IceBorg:

I swear if this arc doesn't end with our characters appreciating Furuichi a bit more and instead be "hur hur Mob-ichi you are a pedo and a loser, you deserve to be in the hospital for being a idiot, oh look have your gay moment with Alaindelon, end the arc" I will be so dissapointed with this series. Even more than with that botched Behemoth arc.

Word man, I can handle this power-up not being permanent but if, after all this, it reverts back to the same shtick of Furuichi constantly being shat on by everyone else, I'm gonna be pissed. Treat the man with the respect he deserves.

Sâuza

You guys seem to forget that Furuichi is THE General, of course he'll be glorious at the end.

Zik

Boooooo Fuck this side effect end up blind crap. Let this era reign forever. I wouldn't even care if a Bleach/Fairy Tail like ass pull was made up so Furuichi can remain with this awesome power and just ignore the ill effects of using the tissues. Maybe a parody like instead of friendship Furuichi's power of perverseness fights the side effects or some random monologue about the "ass".

This is clearly the best arc in Beelzebub. Love Toujou but this was just great to see.

I'm hoping for this final match Furuichi brings out En for laughs and then brings out Behemoth and beats Oga's ass.

With that rant out of the way good chap. Still think it'll be hard to top this arc. Hope Furuichi is still revered after this and it takes some time before ppl realize it's a fluke instead of the predictable joke of ppl treating him like shit immediately once they see he's not as badass anymore. There should be a whole lot of fall out and reactions to what Furuichi did in one day for a while after this arc if only for the lulz.

Cyclone_Baroness

@IceBorg:

I swear if this arc doesn't end with our characters appreciating Furuichi a bit more and instead be "hur hur Mob-ichi you are a pedo and a loser, you deserve to be in the hospital for being a idiot, oh look have your gay moment with Alaindelon, end the arc" I will be so dissapointed with this series. Even more than with that botched Behemoth arc.

I'm also in agreement. It's one reason why I have a hard time watching Family Guy in recent seasons. Poor Meg, I don't like undeserving characters to be constantly shit on. It's depressing, cause usually when they get to stand up for themselves, it lasts for like 15 seconds and they got back to be dumped on.

D-kun

Wow, this chapter was tense, Furuichi completely trashed Toujou… It was awesome and at the same time hard to see.
Can't wait to see how things ends

Zik

@Cyclone_Baroness:

I'm also in agreement. It's one reason why I have a hard time watching Family Guy in recent seasons. Poor Meg, I don't like undeserving characters to be constantly shit on. It's depressing, cause usually when they get to stand up for themselves, it lasts for like 15 seconds and they got back to be dumped on.

You shouldn't be looking to comedies for significant character development. I don't even think much of Meg when she gets shitted on unless it's exceptionally funny nowadays anyway. If Tamura is fully committing Beelzebub as a comedy manga with action instead of a balance both expect consistent established character tropes.

I do agree I'd like some progression with Furuichi though but I really want is for this ~~arc~~ era to never end.

Cyclone_Baroness

@Zik:

You shouldn't be looking to comedies for significant character development. I don't even think much of Meg when she gets shitted on unless it's exceptionally funny nowadays anyway. If Tamura is fully committing Beelzebub as a comedy manga with action instead of a balance both expect consistent established character tropes.

I do agree I'd like some progression with Furuichi though but I really want is for this ~~arc~~ era to never end.

I think comedies can have a bit of development. But I'm also not saying that they needed to really develop Meg or Furuichi. I just want them to lay off a bit. It's less funny if a particular gag is over used. Especially if that character is destined to fail at everything they do. It goes from funny to sad pretty quick sometimes.

Money and Spades

I want Pimp- ichi to get trained by Behemoth n the Pillars, n redeam myself bu proving hes not a pedphile or gay. If Lamia hit a growth spurt n actually looked her demonic age, it would all work out. Come On! Pimp- ichi been deserving this sine Ch 1

Underworld1991

@D-kun:

Wow, this chapter was tense, Furuichi completely trashed Toujou… It was awesome and at the same time hard to see. Can't wait to see how things ends

Wrong Jabberwock trashed Toujou not Furuichi.

hreinnbeno

@Underworld1991:

Wrong Jabberwock trashed Toujou not Furuichi.

Devils with a bearer, are just as strong as the bearer allows them. For example Beel and Oga. That is the logic of the manga. The bearer has to be strong for the devil to be able to do something.

Underworld1991

@hreinnbeno:

Devils with a bearer, are just as strong as the bearer allows them. For example Beel and Oga. That is the logic of the manga. The bearer has to be strong for the devil to be able to do something.

Jabberwock still the 1 who trashed Toujou not Furuichi no matter how you put it.

sniperking323

Let's be honest, no mattter what happens, Furuichi is gonna get the shit beaten out of him regardless by the end of this arc. I think that much is garunteed. Don't get me wrong, I'd like for his character to have some kind of redemption, but there's no way he isn't getting out of this unscathed

Smudger

I wonder if he will genuinely learn any skills from borrowing these abilities. I kind of find it hard to believe he will just return to his old self after this training session. Maybe not have the strength and endurance that the rest have, but technique and a better understanding in martial arts would still suffice and make sense.

And in regards to the debate above. I'm kind of wondering if furuichi does have some hidden power/potential as he's gone way past the point that we expected him to handle before the side effects kicked in. The feats he has accomplished should have already exhausted him, regardless of how the demonic power is helping. Does that mean he is more resilient than everyone suspects? That could actually be used to build himself in the series both physically and mentally. shrugs do it Tamura!

Maybe this arc will go from serious to tragically funny if Quetzalcoatl is summoned in the last tissue.

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@Money:

I want Pimp- ichi to get trained by Behemoth n the Pillars, n redeam myself bu proving hes not a pedphile or gay. If Lamia hit a growth spurt n actually looked her demonic age, it would all work out. Come On! Pimp- ichi been deserving this sine Ch 1

What is this?

Money and Spades

Its my view of Fuirichi, which is true

Silverblade

I don't really expect Furuichi to get the "redemption" many people are waiting for. His role has been long established one, and quite likely has added a lot to the success of this manga. So to see Tamura to fully turn away from Furuichi's usual modus operandi and change him into another archetype? As of now I just can't see it happening.

But at the same time leaving this arc with no permament changes would be a waste considering all the accomplished work.

@hreinnbeno:

Devils with a bearer, are just as strong as the bearer allows them. For example Beel and Oga. That is the logic of the manga. The bearer has to be strong for the devil to be able to do something.

Seriously this is a valid point. Furuichi handling contracts with top tier demons on this level seems to be a good hint, and a good foundation for development in this area to follow. However, one has to wonder if Tamura can work further on Furuichi while having him remain a joke target as he always was. In the end, does everything rest on what Beelzebub wants to be more: an action comic or a gag manga?

Johnnay

I wouldn't expect Furuichi's role to completely change, and wouldn't want it to either, since he's great for the comedy. It would just be nice for him if he wasn't ragged on with his every appearance as much as he is now, where a lot of the time it's just "shut up, pedo-ichi!" or something, and that's the whole joke… him getting ragged on.

He's been treated like that more-or-less since the beginning and it was never a problem, but that's because it wasn't as bad and didn't happen as often.

However, one has to wonder if Tamura can work further on Furuichi while having him remain a joke target as he always was. In the end, does everything rest on what Beelzebub wants to be more: an action comic or a gag manga?

That's all that I'd like to see, Furuichi getting treated fairly. It doesn't matter if he's a joke target since he's always been that, it just wasn't everything about him. Dunno if I'm expecting anything to change from this, but I'd like if it did eventually, since Furuichi did have more to him once upon a time.

Zik

@Underworld1991:

Jabberwock still the 1 who trashed Toujou not Furuichi no matter how you put it.

No. You're wrong. It was Furuichi. ACCEPT THIS ERA OR DIE.
@sniperking323:

Let's be honest, no mattter what happens, Furuichi is gonna get the shit beaten out of him regardless by the end of this arc. I think that much is garunteed. Don't get me wrong, I'd like for his character to have some kind of redemption, but there's no way he isn't getting out of this unscathed

Actually I don't think so. I think he'll eventually be defeated by Oga but it'll be up to the point where he runs out of tissues and Jabberwock's time with him is up/he fulfills his assignment. It's not going to be some one sided thrashing. Oga will be just as beaten up in the end but able to hold out a bit longer. Of course after the fight is over, as already mentioned, Furuichi's body will be sore and badly beaten up cuz it's not use to that kind of strain.

choperman

I think the problem is furuchi's role completley changed after the tower incident, before he was the general by people who didn't know him, always said to be a hidden hand etc. and even though he didn't command that much respect from the main characters he could still do things and not have them shit on him, how well would the whole scene with him getting the group to look for en have gone if people had treated him like they do now, that's the furuchi we like, not this guy who gets shit on before he even opens his mouth

Zik

I find it hard to think they'll start treating Furichi like shit again after this arc. Outside of the main main cast the supporting characters still don't believe/know that demons exist so this day of Furuichi literally taking out the strongest characters can not legitimately be explained away as a fluke. Guys like Himewaka may say it was a fluke cuz of pride (or that they were having an off day) and that'd be okay but they'd still have to be tense around Furuichi in case that "fluke" happens again. I can see Toujou constantly asking for a rematch in a pestering jokey kind of manner. To sum up, there needs to be progression in how the characters act/react around Furuichi from here on out because of this arc.

Unless Furuichi gets badly beaten up by a child or something.

Smudger

One thing I don't get, and that's why oga actually let's him get trodden on despite him being his best friend. Is it merely seen as humor or does he actively let him get bullied?

Who am I kidding it's oga, dude hasn't a clue what's going on 99% of the time.

Silverblade

Im pretty sure Oga's definition of best friend varies vastly from the generally accepted one.

Zik

Oga doesn't care as long as he can mooch off Furuichi, so the bullying is okay unless it's interrupting something he wants. If things ever got serious I think he'd be there for him.

Sesshy

Awesome chapter even if it was a quick conclusion. Also will be interesting what route this goes, whether Furuichi used to be a badass as a kid then stopped when he met Oga or if it was some pride type issue like where he stood up to the delinquents bothering the girls. "STOP WASTING PANELS GODDAMNIT."

kouch_lee

Does this mean Oga is on Behemoth's level?

Anyways, this chapter was (once again) impressive.

Tamura is on fucking fire with this arc.

MDL

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/beelzebub/v15/c173/12.html

Well said, Furuichi.
I really hope that line means that we'll be seeing less of the rough treatment for him in the future.
This might be the start of him saying "enough" and showing some backbone against those who insult him.

Bentham

What an epic chapter

Smudger

I came .

Cyclone_Baroness

Loved it. I wasn't expecting Furuichi to say something that dramatic out loud. I can't turn off bold…..stupid tablet..

Shandian

When everything else is mediciore you can always trust Beelzebub to deliver (at least in this arc ).

Simply put, a superb chapter…. it gave Luffy vs Usopp vibes, great mix of comedy and drama and Furuichi and Oga were both just epic... it did end quite quickly and while I rooted for Furuichi I am quite intrested in this flash back.

IceBorg

Furuichi the first comic relief sidekick who feels so bad about the way people treat him that he prefers to die.
I will never be able to reread Beelzebub and read the funny parts where characters are dicks to Furuichi and laugh knowing that he feels really depressed about it.

Fuck.

Smudger

@IceBorg:

Furuichi the first comic relief sidekick who feels so bad about the way people treat him that he prefers to die.
I will never be able to reread Beelzebub and read the funny parts where characters are dicks to Furuichi and laugh knowing that he feels really depressed about it.

Fuck.

You really think that will happen now that furuichi singlehandedly beat everyone in ishiyama high? (not sure where he stands with oga on this)

Also this backstory sounds awesome. I'm hoping to see some hidden potential revealed.

Cyclone_Baroness

Well I think its a good sign that Furuichi might have fighting potential later since his body survived some of Behemoth's power. If he was totally normal I think he woulda been in worse shape. Of course that's also me being hopeful lol.

ponx

Perhaps hanging around Oga and Hilda for so long has awaken his inner reiatsu :ninja::ninja:

But DAMN!!!! I remember someone posted about wanting Behemoth being summoned, so it wasn't unexpected. But still… DAMN!! when he showed up it was like "Shits just got real now"

And yeah, Furuichi better come out better after this arc. At first I really thought that he was simply trolling around, but after he said his true feeling, I really want him to gain more respect from his classmates.

KzTxL7

Essentially the perfect Beelzebub Chapter for me. Good tension, emotions, and epic line from Furuichi, that good old Beelzebub comedy while also showing that great friendship you've come to expect out of Furuichi and Oga with a decent short fight. And ends alluding to a flashback between the characters I've wanted to know more about their relationship the entire time. Honestly, Furuichi is a hell of a lot stronger than we might think. He's summoned all of these demons in like one day. Even if some of them might be "weak" , to be able to contract that many demons one after another and not show any real exhaustion to the readers. Hell, he was able to take Jabberwock's power without any problems. It wasn't until he summoned Behemoth that we actually see a small "crack" in him.

Razhem

Well, now I'm interested to see what this sixth year incident is all about. As for the rest, bloody awesome, the page of MEN (anybody who read it knows which one it is) was pure GAR.

Szaz

Furuichi, man,you were already my favorite character on the series,now, you're becoming one of my favorite characters ever.The transition from funny/light hearted to very emotional was done pretty good.And after this,it's pretty much a given that he will be treated better by everyone(at least I hope so).

Sâuza

One thing bugs me a bit (and i mean a tiny little bit), if Furuichi knew about the tissues being poisonous to his body then he should've realized the bugs he saw were due to that poisoning right ?

It's like Tamura decided to give him back his honor with the dramatic speech on the spot.

Johnnay

Well said, kid…

choperman

it was needed

Money and Spades

5 Star Saga. Himekawa backstory wass boss but Furichi…........ man, dat Furichi..........

poopbucket

I'm excited for when "the pokopen incident" becomes relevant.

And this:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pokopen

There's no reason to look this deeply into pokopen is there…

Mr. Goldenweeks

I'm so in love with this arc . i've already reread it 10 times and it's not over yet. I know Furuichi is still going to be the butt of jokes after this, but I'm hoping everyone will give him a little more respect. At the very least I'm hoping Oga will stand up for him if someone crosses the line.

Sâuza

http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/beelzebub_2/en/0/174/page/1

Pirozhkiborshch.

Smudger

http://www.mangapanda.com/222/beelzebub.html

Sesshy

Great Chapter, loved it.

Razhem

Frigging awesome, makes me hope Furicichi can actualy join the fight now thanks ot what Behemoth was getting at.

Gliblord

Tons of really brilliant flashbacks lately

Smudger

Yeah I have a feeling furuichi will have some insane twist with his past. Something as crazy as him being related to someone of great power. Who knows…..hell I even wondered if he could be related to beel the way behemoth spoke lol

But on a serious note its good to see that he has without a doubt some great role in this series yet to be fulfilled or uncovered. I wonder how far his strength could develop?

Cyclone_Baroness

Ahaha! I knew it! Now way he coulda been a host for Behemoth without some sort of potential.

I only just realized it's under 200 chapters, feels longer for some reason. I feel much better about this development now.

Also lmao "Apologize to the Russians!"