I think the ecchi would be way better if the author had better timing with it. Is a scene where Miu is punched in the head and kidnapped, while hung upside down, a good time to strip her? It gives me the impression that we should be more worried about ogling her, as opposed to being concerned for her safety.
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi
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I guess when in manga women lose their clothes from punches, from swords (no cuts to their skin), from sneezes, from you get the drift, that some "lightning" or whatever was going on isn't going to make me throw a fit.
Understandable. But I don't have to like it one bit lol. That scene initially I didn't realize the fence was electrified. Or I forgot, so to me her clothes flying off was so completely random.
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I can't wait until Kenichi and Miu end their fight all naked.
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Usually the nudity is over the top, but I'm sorry, for this chapter it seemed worth it, it made him taking her seem ten times worse, usually it annoys the crap out of me, but it made the bad guy seem cruel and barbaric and added well to the scene, she also seemed hopeless it added lots of emotion that you wouldn't have got without it, 99% of the time it's over the top (though I can deal with it after 400 chapters of it) but this time I feel it was well played
honestly though, I'm getting a little sick of hearing this, it's been hundreds of chapters with it, I think we either get used to it and move on, or keep it to ourselves, this same thing comes up every 5 chapters
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In this thread, tits are a matter of grave importance.
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Why do I always check these these threads at the dumbest times?
(yes, I do read this manga from time to time… but I tend to avoid topics with "you-know-who" in it)
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In this thread, tits are a matter of grave importance.
Tits are a matter of grave importance no matter what place they are discussed.
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Usually the nudity is over the top, but I'm sorry, for this chapter it seemed worth it, it made him taking her seem ten times worse, usually it annoys the crap out of me, but it made the bad guy seem cruel and barbaric and added well to the scene, she also seemed hopeless it added lots of emotion that you wouldn't have got without it, 99% of the time it's over the top (though I can deal with it after 400 chapters of it) but this time I feel it was well played
honestly though, I'm getting a little sick of hearing this, it's been hundreds of chapters with it, I think we either get used to it and move on, or keep it to ourselves, this same thing comes up every 5 chapters
Well, I agreed that Miu was pretty desperate, except Jenazad had nothing to do with the resulting nudity. Miu's technique, as far as I can tell (it can't be an electric fence's fault since Jenazad was standing on it too), tore her clothes off. Jenazad in the context of this scene could care less about the naked girl in his hand. If anything, in my opinion, it reduces tension since we can be sure that Jenazad only wants to teach Miu martial arts, except he'll be all evil about it.
I guess I'm in a group that can't except that, when you get down to it, the author puts fanservice on the same level of importance as his story, and it makes this manga seem cheap. This manga, I'm realizing chapter by chapter how stupid it is. In the wrong way too, shonen can be great despite being dumb but I'm clearly on a different wavelength then the author. The fights haven't been that great lately. I prefer seeing the disciples fight more then the masters most of the time. They've wasted a ton of panel time this arc with Miu and Kenichi standing doing nothing but staring, or accidentally getting into sex positions. Or worse, explaining why their masters are so awesome instead of showing the fight! Show don't tell please. The fanservice, meanwhile, is getting worse and more frequent. How is it any different from an author wasting panel space here? I've seen people here post that the fanservice "doesn't bother them," meaning that it isn't entertaining them meaning that it's wasted space.
I'm guessing that the people complaining about the fanservice have only been tolerating it to this point, but it gets tougher to tolerate that when the fanservice is fighting for attention with the story. Especially when, this following story with Miu is probably going to be like the Sailor Moon "Black Lady" arc but with more martial arts. I'm really not looking forward to it. I hope Jenazad fails…please.
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Well, I agreed that Miu was pretty desperate, except Jenazad had nothing to do with the resulting nudity. Miu's technique, as far as I can tell (it can't be an electric fence's fault since Jenazad was standing on it too), tore her clothes off. Jenazad in the context of this scene could care less about the naked girl in his hand. If anything, in my opinion, it reduces tension since we can be sure that Jenazad only wants to teach Miu martial arts, except he'll be all evil about it.
I guess I'm in a group that can't except that, when you get down to it, the author puts fanservice on the same level of importance as his story, and it makes this manga seem cheap. This manga, I'm realizing chapter by chapter how stupid it is. In the wrong way too, shonen can be great despite being dumb but I'm clearly on a different wavelength then the author. The fights haven't been that great lately. I prefer seeing the disciples fight more then the masters most of the time. They've wasted a ton of panel time this arc with Miu and Kenichi standing doing nothing but staring, or accidentally getting into sex positions. Or worse, explaining why their masters are so awesome instead of showing the fight! Show don't tell please. The fanservice, meanwhile, is getting worse and more frequent. How is it any different from an author wasting panel space here? I've seen people here post that the fanservice "doesn't bother them," meaning that it isn't entertaining them meaning that it's wasted space.
I'm guessing that the people complaining about the fanservice have only been tolerating it to this point, but it gets tougher to tolerate that when the fanservice is fighting for attention with the story. Especially when, this following story with Miu is probably going to be like the Sailor Moon "Black Lady" arc but with more martial arts. I'm really not looking forward to it. I hope Jenazad fails…please.
All I'm saying is there's been fan service since chapter 1 and it gets annoying sometimes but I don't think it destroys the story, I feel here the picture whether he did or not set the mood right, I'm really not in the mood for a debate about whether it's gone down in quality, but I will say this fight was particularly bad, really boring with just explanations like you said, but we've had this discussion 100's of times already, I feel it's time to put it to rest
Why do I always check these these threads at the dumbest times?
(yes, I do read this manga from time to time… but I tend to avoid topics with "you-know-who" in it)
Who's you-know-who????
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Lord Voldemort
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man . kenichi fan service pisses a lot of people off. i kinda wish he would tone it down a little too but i read for the martial arts not the boobs.
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Fan service doesn't bother me one bit it's whether or not the author is writing a decent story
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Fan service doesn't bother me one bit it's whether or not the author is writing a decent story
Exactamundo .
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Fan service doesn't bother me one bit it's whether or not the author is writing a decent story
I think it might be different if it wasn't a media in which you are looking at images while reading lol. Sometimes he does stuff that just clicks other times it's a distraction.
But on a different note. I really like that there was a gradual change in Kenichi's physical appearance from where he started. It kinda gave it more of a feel that he was improving even without showing him in a fight.
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Soooooo
! Mui is actually taken interesting times for Ryouzanpaku.
Pics!
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the fan service on that one page is just ridiculous
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Here we go again…
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Fan Service! God gawd the fan service!
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well chapter was exactly how I expected it to be. miu be kidnapped and lots of fanservice, not sure if I should call it fanservice since it seems you guys all hate it, so it should be called fandiservice.
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Thought I'd check out this chapter, see if the fanservice really is as bad as you guys are saying it is…...so is there this much in most chapters. 'Cos there's quite a lot in this one.
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Thought I'd check out this chapter, see if the fanservice really is as bad as you guys are saying it is…...so is there this much in most chapters. 'Cos there's quite a lot in this one.
No there is only this much once in a while. Most characters in the series are males, thus them fighting is not like this. Though whenever a female fights it ends up like this. Though also even when they are not fighting they are essentially in see through clothing.
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No there is only this much once in a while. Most characters in the series are males, thus them fighting is not like this. Though whenever a female fights it ends up like this. Though also even when they are not fighting they are essentially in see through clothing.
Well that aint so bad. It's expected in a series like this, one that's aimed toward male teens, to have lotsa boobies! Might start reading this then, the fights sound pretty damn cool.
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CALLED IT.
Commence Miu rescue arc.
She'll be brainwashed or something and Kiniechi will have to semi fight Miu but she'll break when and if she hits/fights with him. I wanna see it happen. but I just don't wanna see the brainwashing. @_@ And by brainwashing, I mean Miu Will meet her dad.
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So apparently Miu's spandex is super glued to her privates so it won't come off in only those parts.
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So apparently Miu's spandex is super glued to her privates so it won't come off in only those parts.
She obviously uses that tape that girls use when wearing dresses and stuff.
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She obviously uses that tape that girls use when wearing dresses and stuff.
I wouldn't want to put double sided tape there…lol. It's a good thing so she's as strong and flexible as she is. I think she'd have several dislocated limbs. That aside the chapter was fairly meh and vaguely predictable. God Hand is a fairly cool guy though.
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The page where he is gripping Miu's ass is thoroughly creepy…it almost feels like it's alluding to eventual rape.
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Soo, yeah.
! It was actually a cool fight, just impossible to really take seriously when Miu is being thrown around like that during the whole thing. It doesn't even ruin anything for me, it just made the fight more funny than anything since it was so ridiculous. Even his line about retreating that would've been cool just got a laugh out of me since he had a half naked girl slung over his shoulder as he said it.
Spoiler'd, but probably not necessary.
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Okay more fanservice i never witnessed.
Also that the fight was a draw in the end..because i like both characters its okay, but it always feels like this manga never gets something finished. You get a great fight but in the end it
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Wasn't one of the Yami members defeated and sent to that ultimate prison designed specifically to hold them? I think it was the Russian Yami member.
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^Yep the Savate master.
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well i was hoping the elder would beat that mask guy's ass but he was taking care of kenichi. kenichi keeps getting hurt worse and worse every time there is a master fight. the mask guys put a cloth over miu or something. one point he had his hands on her boobs to hold her up
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^Yep the Savate master.
Nah, that person escaped. Sakaki beat him down, but then he ended up getting away because they didn't guard him well enough after the fight… Though, now I'm pretty sure you meant to say Sambo and not Savate. My bad.
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Nah, that person escaped. Sakaki beat him down, but then he ended up getting away because they didn't guard him well enough after the fight… Though, now I'm pretty sure you meant to say Sambo and not Savate. My bad.
No no, i actually meant to say Savate because i confused both of the masters, thanks for reminding me.
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I'm really starting to like Jenezad, as a villain. I like his design, and his style. He would honestly love to stay and fight, but he knows when to cut and run.
I guess I'm surprised the elder wasn't able to sense Miu's peril, but eh. The story must progress.
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Miu doesn't wear underwear does she :O
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Miu doesn't wear underwear does she :O
she does when she wears skirts. She is always complaining about wearing a skirt during fights cause they see her underwear. But yea apparantly in that outfit she wears nothing top or bottom
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Miu doesn't wear underwear does she :O
If you were wearing skin tight spandex going without underwear is sadly the better plan so that lines don't show…But it's sorta pointless if you are able to see every nook and cranny anyways. She may as well wear bloomers.
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Ugh…I'm sorry but Miu is literally an object in this chapter. I miss the chapter where Miu just lounged around in a hot spring. That was a little more dignified and it didn't occur during what must be one of the bigger events of the series. Also, this type of fanservice is Matseuna letting his audience ogle an unconscious girl, which would be a little less creepy if not for the Neon Genesis Evangelion a while back.
I dunno, I guess this is supposed to be a "so bad it's good" series intentionally? Cause if that's the cause it's not doing that very well. That's the only reason I can imagine putting Miu in all those silly poses during a kidnapping plot.
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she does when she wears skirts. She is always complaining about wearing a skirt during fights cause they see her underwear. But yea apparantly in that outfit she wears nothing top or bottom
http://www.mangareader.net/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/412/10
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Guys, shut the f**k up !
Talk about something else, like how Jenazad is awesome or what might happen to Hongo when he'll try to take Miu back or anything.
This isn't the fairy tail thread !
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Guys, shut the f**k up !
Talk about something else, like how Jenazad is awesome or what might happen to Hongo when he'll try to take Miu back or anything.
This isn't the fairy tail thread !
Yea no kidding, it always amazes me how the people who complain the most about something like ecchi things are the ones that notice it the most. Like in this thread or fairy tail i see peopel complain about some angle or view or posture or grabbing or ect and I have to go back and look at the chapter to find what they are talking about. For hating fanservice so much they sure do, do a good job of spotting any possible and all things that could be related at all.
But yea so much STORY things to talk about this chapter, yet they can't get past teh boobs.
So how do you guys think they get Miu back?
Think Kenichi and Ryonzapaku will find her and involve a battle there? Do you think God Hand will get her back, yet they have to deal with an amnessia evil warped Miu? Will the Shinpaku alliance have anything to do wtih this arc?
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But yea so much STORY things to talk about this chapter, yet they can't get past teh boobs.
So how do you guys think they get Miu back?
Think Kenichi and Ryonzapaku will find her and involve a battle there? Do you think God Hand will get her back, yet they have to deal with an amnessia evil warped Miu? Will the Shinpaku alliance have anything to do wtih this arc?
But they share equal panel time. Why should this manga get a free pass to it's fan service as opposed to Bleach wasting panel time, cause it's like the same thing. This manga has varies from good to bland every arc, and it's on a decline.
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I ain't gonna lie. The fan-service bugged the hell out of me. And I adore Negima for crying out loud. Mostly it wasn't the fact that tits were shown, it's that a strong, female character was being tossed around like a piece of meat.
With that said, I AM gonna give the chapter the benefit of the doubt insofar that it might have been done intentionally degrading in order to build up what a piece of slime Silcardo is and the terrible way he treats people especially his disciples like nothing. But I guess there really isn't a way to know that for sure:/ A comment or two by Sakaki on how he was handling Miu would have been nice.
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Heh I actually didn't like this chapter, everyone reaction to Miu being kidnapped kinda sucked, I didn't really feel that they were angry, sad, or shocked by their reactions, there is still next chapter, but I dunno this chapter was kinda odd for me.
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Lol. You can't really complain but those of us that dislike the use of ecchi when critcal things are happening especially when Miu's ass is taking up half a panel. It doesn't enhance the overall drama. If it felt like it fit with what was happening nobody would have said anything. Or at least it wouldn't continue. Important things happened but it gets a bit overshadowed by Miu being thrown around like a ragdoll lol.
http://www.mangareader.net/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/447/9 this line loses impact in my opinion…The drama gets cut in half when he does stuff like this. It's just silly now lol. Honestly aside from Miu getting kidnapped and showing that God hand isn't such a bad guy, nothing really happened this chapter. A few people predicted her being kidnapped. And it happened, nothing really surprising occurred so it got filled up with strange images. They didn't even really show Kenichi break down and the next page is more boob.
Hopefully next chapter they show Kenichi's emotional state. I assume Shinpaku will just show up as they do. I sorta doubt God Hand will get her back. I wonder if Kenichi will actually break his code and have to fight a mind warped Miu. Part of me would like to see him actually really fight her, but unless he has a complete turn about I don't think he'll break his rule of striking girls. Buuut. On the other hand I think that he'll maybe get wtfpwned by her and she'll snap out of it after she realizes she nearly kills him or something.
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You know, I kinda want to see SHinpaku take a big role in rescuing Miu. Think about it. We can assume that Kajima's invitation to the various members to join Yomi still stands, and since Miu will probably end up a disciple, she will be in Yomi. Shinpaku infiltration anyone?
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Let's discuss fanservice.