I believe that there are color pages.
Vagabond
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The normal volumes have color pages too.
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only buy vagabond if you are a rich-ass baller type, honestly.
the art is gorgeous, but the pacing is so slow, you're going to need to plop down about 5 volumes worth ($50+) to stop at a satisfying point in the story..i started buying vagabond, and eventually had to ditch it and just read it online.
REAL is probably a better investment if you're not willing to purchase a small chunk of the series each time you buy. -
So I guess I'll be reading online for now and just try to invest for the volumes in the future, eh? Coz the volumes I think is one heck of an artbook. xp
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So I guess I'll be reading online for now and just try to invest for the volumes in the future, eh? Coz the volumes I think is one heck of an artbook. xp
That's what i've been planning once I land me work and get some bills squared away.
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Inoue seem more interested in art than manga now.
http://twitter.com/#!/inouetake
His art is sexy of course.
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Damn those are awesome
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Has there been no offers for a Vagabond animation/ova/movie? Or did Inoue decided to not accept one.
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Has there been no offers for a Vagabond animation/ova/movie? Or did Inoue decided to not accept one.
I hope so. Vagabond won't be good in animated form, imho.
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I was thinking more of a HQ movie like Hellsing or Vampire D quality at least.
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Has there been no offers for a Vagabond animation/ova/movie? Or did Inoue decided to not accept one.
From what I remember reading somewhere the Inou doesn't want an animated adaptation of Vagabond cause he believe's that it won't get the proper treatment.
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inoue has his OWN animation company, IT Planning, which handles all animated adaptations of his works–if he wants them to be made at all, he puts his own team on it. i think he set it up right after he saw the shit job toei did with slam dunk, although they've only done an anime version of 'buzzerbeater' so far.
basically, he has full creative control over everything he's done since slam dunk, and doesn't seem to want any of them adapted to anime so far, sans buzzerbeater.
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Does anyone know the name of the background art assistant? I know it's shown him in an interview somewhere but not sure if his name was given.
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@Ao:
inoue has his OWN animation company, IT Planning, which handles all animated adaptations of his works–if he wants them to be made at all, he puts his own team on it. i think he set it up right after he saw the shit job toei did with slam dunk, although they've only done an anime version of 'buzzerbeater' so far.
basically, he has full creative control over everything he's done since slam dunk, and doesn't seem to want any of them adapted to anime so far, sans buzzerbeater.
I didn't know about that at all.
That's rather smart of him.
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From what I remember reading somewhere the Inou doesn't want an animated adaptation of Vagabond cause he believe's that it won't get the proper treatment.
Inoue's art on Vagabond would be very hard and expensive to animate closely.
Maybe a movie produced for several years but as a series it would be almost impossible. It would be hell to try and animate something with that line treatment.
It could work if they could make several details and touches only possible in animated form opposing to the breath.taking art of the manga. (seriously, I spent more time looking at the art and trying learn and comprehend every line than reading the actual plot) -
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Does anyone know the name of the background art assistant? I know it's shown him in an interview somewhere but not sure if his name was given.
I think it was in those outstanding people documentaries, If I remember correctly, the documentary only referred to him as Inoue's assistant.
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Inoue's art on Vagabond would be very hard and expensive to animate closely.
Maybe a movie produced for several years but as a series it would be almost impossible. It would be hell to try and animate something with that line treatment.
It could work if they could make several details and touches only possible in animated form opposing to the breath.taking art of the manga. (seriously, I spent more time looking at the art and trying learn and comprehend every line than reading the actual plot)I managed to do both
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http://www.itplanning.co.jp/newse.html
no big news, but it seems like he at least acknowledged that he might/will continue vagabond eventually. some work on the next real! cover is posted, and all the news of a hiatus seems pertaining specifically to vagabond and its fans, so he might just slowly continue on with real–still up in the air, though. =\
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Well that's good to hear I don't care if we go 2-3 years with no new vagabond chapters if the man needs to find his motive again let him.
Also i've been eager to start reading REAL. I heard it's a lot better than Slam Dunk
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Also i've been eager to start reading REAL. I heard it's a lot better than Slam Dunk
you heard wrong, sir–
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It's much better then Slam Dunk, Aojiki is just retardedly obsessed with Slam Dunk.
Just don't expect a basketball manga, because it's a slice of life drama with basketball as a bckdrop.
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@JERK:
It's much better then Slam Dunk, Aojiki is just retardedly obsessed with Slam Dunk.
Just don't expect a basketball manga, because it's a slice of life drama with basketball as a bckdrop.
jerk disease has bad taste. this proves it.
the art is much more solid and consistent, but the pacing and characters aren't even half as strong or memorable. why inoue got obsessed with having at least one character so flawed that they're completely unlikable as one of the leads and completely removing the quirky humor from his style that helped make slam dunk a success is beyond me.
that being said, it is very good. definitely not nearly as charming or unique as slam dunk, though. there's a reason why most fans are still hounding inoue to do a slam dunk sequel despite him ALREADY having down two basketball manga since then.
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While on the subject, can anyone tell me if Viz's release of Slam Dunk comes with it's own little (for lack of a better term) "Viz-isms"?
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While on the subject, can anyone tell me if Viz's release of Slam Dunk comes with it's own little (for lack of a better term) "Viz-isms"?
define 'viz-isms'?
it's not as well-written as the gutsoon english version, if that's what you mean.
i haven't seen them in stores, and i'm waiting for them to get passed the gutsoon versions (book 5) before i start collecting, but i do recall them being okay translation-wise.also, i think viz's one piece translations improved a ridiculous amount recently, so maybe they finally hired new writers or something?
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@Ao:
define 'viz-isms'?
Any translation issues would definately count
Though I wanna know if the art is still intact and not suffering from any weird censoring mostly
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@Ao:
jerk disease has bad taste. this proves it.
My taste is impeccable.
the art is much more solid and consistent, but the pacing and characters aren't even half as strong or memorable.
Wrong.
why inoue got obsessed with having at least one character so flawed that they're completely unlikable as one of the leads and completely removing the quirky humor from his style that helped make slam dunk a success is beyond me.
lolll, Real is completely different in tone, so why you're expecting the same humor as Slam Dunk is hilarious. But of course it DOES have quirky humor up the wazoo anyway, just not as slap stick as SD.
And you're clearly too immature to digest unlikable characters being humanized and analyzed.
that being said, it is very good. definitely not nearly as charming or unique as slam dunk, though. there's a reason why most fans are still hounding inoue to do a slam dunk sequel despite him ALREADY having down two basketball manga since then.
Real isn't a basketball manga.
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Any translation issues would definately count
Though I wanna know if the art is still intact and not suffering from any weird censoring mostly
well, i only read a bit back when it was in the main magazine and when the first volume dropped, but ''gori'' was in. no idea what else in the dialogue would be worth censoring. not sure, but i think there was the usual pg-14 level of swearing, and much of it stuck closely to what the original gutsoon english translations had, just, because it's VIZ, the dialogue was a little less clean and smooth, but overall good.
akagi's butt was censored with drawn-on boxers when sakuragi pulls his pants down during their one-on-one game, but it was completely uncensored in the volume.
And you're clearly too immature to digest unlikable characters being humanized and analyzed.
obviously.
Wrong.
clever and perspicacious rebuttal there. can't even begin to argue with such strong logic.
olll, Real is completely different in tone, so why you're expecting the same humor as Slam Dunk is hilarious. But of course it DOES have quirky humor up the wazoo anyway, just not as slap stick as SD.
i didn't expect the same humor, as MUCH of slam dunk's trademark humor is a direct result of sakuragi's personality and the way he relates to the characters around him. with a different main character, the humor is going to be different, but i was still expecting it to be as funny and inventive–it isn't. real has its comedic moments, and PLENTY of goofy slapstick, but it never gets as amusing or memorable as the relentless humor in slam dunk.
also, it's NOT completely different in tone, lmao; that's hyperbole.
it's still a story about rough teenage punks reaching their goals, making friends, and improving themselves through basketball. tomomiya is really obviously created in the vein of hanamichi, etc. it's more like a live-action teenage japanese melodrama spin on the ideas introduced in slam dunk, but there are enough common themes that comparing the two isn't a ridiculous idea. that being said, i haven't caught up with real, and this was just my reaction to the first two volumes. maybe the series is completely different now.Real isn't a basketball manga.
like i pointed out in that huge argument YEARS ago, slam dunk started out with basketball merely as a gimmick and a backdrop for a character-focused comedy/slice-of-life-ish thing, too (every review i've seen written in english agrees with me on that, too. check ANN's review of the manga). it takes almost four volumes before they even play an actual, serious game of basketball. later on, the focus changes, but i don't see a huge difference between real and the first few slam dunk volumes as far as focus goes.
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and honestly, if a character was properly 'humanized' they wouldn't be unlikable. people don't dislike characters they can empathize with– exactly the opposite, usually.
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@Ao:
that being said, i haven't caught up with real, and this was just my reaction to the first two volumes. maybe the series is completely different now.
LOL, why are you even here talking about REAL?
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@Ao:
real only has 9 volumes released overall, anyway, duuuude.
Pretty sure REAL's on it's tenth volume.
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Pretty sure REAL's on it's tenth volume.
http://www.itplanning.co.jp/reale.html
the 10th volume came out VERY recently.
i thought it was 10, but i wasn't positive whether that one was out yet or not–as i mentioned already, i haven't caught up with real because i'm buying the legal versions. so yeah, my bad. should have just double checked. -
@Ao:
i haven't caught up with real, and this was just my reaction to the first two volumes. maybe the series is completely different now.
ahahahahahaha, shut the fuck up Ao Kiji. I can't believe I even wasted my goddamn time starting this shit again.
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it isn't even an argument; it's an off-topic mess where you keep posting 'lol' and 'Hahahahah no,' or 'ahahahaha you are wrong' like a retard who fell into a bunker filled with nitrous oxide.
i did get the tone from what i read–unless it all of a sudden becomes a completely different manga tonally. just pointing out that you're full of shit and bad opinions, zephos. and, as always, your dumb replies of 'ahahaha nuh-uh shut up, you stupid' don't do much to rebuke that point.
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Shut the fuck up lol.
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2 volumes is like 12+ chapters, dum-dum. ;-D
i mentioned, TO YOU, before that i cannot read the scanslations of Real, because i'm supporting the official releases of at least one inoue series for the entire run even if it kills me. also, real is a super-short series relatively–barely 10 volumes, c'mon.
like i said, i'm judging based solely on the opening volumes of slam dunk vs the opening volumes of real. even if real becomes a near-perfect series as it progresses, since i think slam dunk was near-perfect from the onset (sans volume 4, which meandered into pointlessness) and consistently throughout its entire run, i give it the title of the 'better' manga. that's just my opinion, and as i am not caught up there is a little room for error, but i was explaining how i reached that opinion.
still, it does strike me as pretty damn stupid to just post my own erroneous opinion and go 'AHAHAHAHAHA u retard' to anyone who disagrees. i do really, really like real--don;t wanna get into an argument with any real fans against a manga i enjoy--but since you don't seem to 'get' why slam dunk is so well-received, popular, highly praised in the first place, i can't really take your opinion on which is better even slightly seriously, zephos. /back on-topic now, please, or 'the thread starter' should make this into a general takehiko inoue thread.
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Yeah, good on you for changing the subject to Slam Dunk. Because that's the only manga of the two we can actually discuss together. :)
I've always gotten why Slam Dunk was well received, it's fucking obvious. It's a really well made basic shonen story with a really well made depictions of action.
You're just an idiot fanboy who is insanely infatuated and can't stop assigning retarded laughable claims to why it's good.
You're like a North Korean propaganda writer with the thing lol.WHEN SLAM DUNK WAS FIRST PUBLISHED A THOUSAND CRANES WEPT AND DIED TO MAKE THEIR FEATHERS CUSHION EACH VOLUME'S EVERY PAGE.
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@JERK:
Yeah, good on you for changing the subject to Slam Dunk. Because that's the only manga of the two we can actually discuss together. :)
what are you even saying?
i said we should get back on-top, the topic being vagabond, genius.
someone else mentioned SD and i jokingly disagreed.I've always gotten why Slam Dunk was well received, it's fucking obvious. It's a really well made basic shonen story with a really well made depictions of action.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA–!!!
you actually DON'T GET IT.apropos: slam dunk became popular/is popular because of the comedy and characters. it was a hit DURING DRAGON BALL-era Jump. do you really think slam dunk has action it that rivals fucking dragon ball?? especially during the early volumes of slam dunk? naruto copied its main character trio FROM sd, not the fucking 'well-depicted action'.
i have plenty of friends, of varying taste, and they all dug slam dunk right away, but many couldn't get into real the same way because of the serious tone and the characters aren't as defined from the get-go. plenty of people can't get into vagabond(back on topic, yeaaah~) or real because of the long-winded pacing, either. i had that problem, and if it weren't for scanslations, i probably would have given up reading vagabond altogether-- slam dunk doesn't have the same pacing issues.
you're not even going to explain a single reason WHY you think real is better amidst the jackassery, so just drop it and get back to talking about vagabond or 'doing goofy shit' to your female's friends panties when they're not looking, zephos. if you reply about anything non-vagabond-related, it's getting no response from me, so go ahead, bro.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA–!!!
you actually DON'T GET IT.No I do, you're just really weird about this comic. I feel like I'm trying to talk sexual turn ons with someone who has a fetish for bellybutton lint or something baffling like that, you're just inexplainably horny over something no one else gives a shit about.
apropos: slam dunk became popular/is popular because of the comedy and characters. it was a hit DURING DRAGON BALL-era Jump. do you really think slam dunk has action it that rivals fucking dragon ball?? especially during the early volumes of slam dunk?
Dragonball's action beats the snot out of Slam Dunk, of course Dragonball has the best action around so…
Yeah hey how cool is it that it's been like a year and you're still a helpless moron who has no idea why he likes Slam Dunk and still only vomits up historical facts for the most part.
Oh and "comedy and characters" being basic elements of practically all stories would fall under exactly what I claimed.
naruto copied its main character trio FROM sd, not the fucking 'well-depicted action'.
Who the hell is Sakura.
Also Rukawa is, much like Sasuke, a shitty character.
Also bullshit did SD make up the dynamic of "underdog dude, skilled suave dude".
i have plenty of friends, of varying taste, and they all dug slam dunk right away,
Oh wow, a worthless anecdote.
but many couldn't get into real the same way because of the serious tone and the characters aren't as defined from the get-go.
I could argue that immediate acessability has no deciding factor on overall quality. But I would have to give a fuck what your random sampling poll had to say to do that.
plenty of people can't get into vagabond(back on topic, yeaaah~) or real because of the long-winded pacing, either.
ahahah, you are such a goddamn baby.
Grow up Ao Hige. Don't start attacking more growed up comics because you still have the attention span of a four year old.
i had that problem, and if it weren't for scanslations, i probably would have given up reading vagabond altogether– slam dunk doesn't have the same pacing issues.
So the only major criticism you have is based around your infantile attention span.
you're not even going to explain a single reason WHY you think real is better amidst the jackassery,
Because it touches me on a much more emotionally deep level then the cheap thrills of Slam Dunk.
And as a grown ass man I value that much more on the whole.so just drop it and get back to talking about vagabond or 'doing goofy shit' to your female's friends panties when they're not looking, zephos.
Wait what?
What a complete non sequiter. Where did that even come from.It's "Wan Wan" all over again.
if you reply about anything non-vagabond-related, it's getting no response from me, so go ahead, bro.
Good, thanks for conceding the argument to me.
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@JERK:
of course Dragonball has the best action around
What about Jojo minus part 1 and 6?
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I couldn't get into Jojo at all.
And yes it was Part 3 that I got bored with and quit during.Don't let NPC know or they'll murder me lol.
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@JERK:
No I do, you're just really weird about this comic. I feel like I'm trying to talk sexual turn ons with someone who has a fetish for bellybutton lint or something baffling like that, you're just inexplainably horny over something no one else gives a shit about.
http://manga.about.com/od/slamdunk/p/SlamDunk.htm
In a poll taken for the 10th Japan Media Arts Festival in 2007, 79,000 Japanese fans chose Slam Dunk as their all-time favorite manga series, beating out manga icons like Dragon Ball and Astro Boy.
…the graphic novels have sold over 100 million copies worldwide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slam_Dunk_%28manga%29
The English translation of Slam Dunk was listed one of the best comics of 2008 by Publishers Weekly.
In a survey from Oricon in 2009, Slam Dunk ranked first as the manga that fans wanted to be turned into a live-action film.
In the Japanese government's Media Arts 100 Poll of the public's favorite works of art of all time, Slam Dunk took first place in the manga division.
slam dunk is arguably MORE popular than dragon ball in korea, by the way.
anyone who's grown up in korea knows the anime airs all the time, and is ridiculously popular there.also, you are aware that the single best-selling novel in japan (before harry potter and one piece came along)was one of the slam dunk volumes, right? if you don't 'get it', rock on and enjoy all the mindless, repetitive, vacuous shitty shonen manga you like, but i'm not the sole person who considers the series one of the absolute best in the genre.
Because it touches me on a much more emotionally deep level then the cheap thrills of Slam Dunk. And as a grown ass man I value that much more on the whole.
as a grown-up, i generally don't seek this deep enlightenment or incisive reflections on the human condition from action comics aimed at japanese middle school children.
log into your other account and change this to the 'takehiko inoue' thread.
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@Ao:
but i'm not the sole person who considers the series one of the absolute best in the genre.
Yes you are.
I love Dragonball, I'm as much apart of it's huge cult as anyone, I'm as much a participant, just like all the millions of people who make it as big as it is (except maybe dubbies). Take a guy like me, clone me a billion times, and walaa fandom of those exact statistics. It's entirely easy to understand. Same deal with Slam Dunk.
Now, on an entirely different matter, is considering what is or isn't a real masterpiece of comic construction and storytelling. If you asked me if I thought one was Dragonball I'd laugh straight to your face.
You're a fucking idiot. Ao Kiji, always have been, always will be.
You quote sales and popularity then think this is analagous to people thinking it's one of the best comics ever made.And as usual you're worthless in describing why you like Slam Dunk, it's so incredibly pathetic.
You aren't really a big fan of it. You're fandom of Slam Dunk is a shriveled naked old man covering himself in the big scary plastic armor of statistics.
Rip that worthless pretend armor off, and the actual love for the series underneath is feeble and emaciated.
That's all I've seen with you. I could make a million times better Slam Dunk advocate then you ever will be.Next time some mook comes in badmouthing Slam Dunk here's what you'll do.
You'll shut your goddamn mouth and let me do the talking. Got it? Good.as a grown-up, i generally don't seek this deep enlightenment or incisive reflections on the human condition from action comics aimed at japanese middle school children.
Real is seinen, and it sure as hell isn't action.
log into your other account and change this to the 'takehiko inoue' thread.
i'm through with this debate since you have zero fucking clue what you're talking about, but i'd prefer not to have any evidence of you getting outright embarrassed deleted.I like this part because in your heart of hearts you know full well no one is on your side, and everyone who might be reading this is with me on everything and laughing at you.
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@JERK:
I couldn't get into Jojo at all.
And yes it was Part 3 that I got bored with and quit during.Don't let NPC know or they'll murder me lol.
I am going to murder you son.
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Ao Kiji nobody likes you.
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you're a cool guy, zephos.
@JERK:
rawr rawr popularity doesnot mattur unless it's my popularityt on anime forumsites even though i was the one who brought up popularity in the first place and you were addressing that part of my post watch me rant like an idiot because my reading comprehension is so low i am going to go off on a rant debunking shit you weren't even saying bad punctuation and incomplete sentence structures and thoughts
so do you smile or cry while you fap to any female arlongpark member that pays attention to you? ;)
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I'm just mentioning it because you seem to pull this Hulk Hogan thing where you do some corny move then hold out your hand to hear cheers that are never there.
I guess I just want to know who you think you're talking to. Like an old man sitting on a bench having a conversation with the wood planks he's sitting on. What's going through your head.Also I'm good with the ladies irl thanks lol.
EDIT: lol, you deleted that other post, what are you afraid of?
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unfortunately, anyone who uses terms like 'irl' can't be that good with the ladies..=\
and nah, i don't really care what people think of me, but i do have this glimmer of hope and optimism that people, even you, can look at a debate non-objectively and go, 'eh, guess you have a point' or 'i gotta say, that's a pretty weak argument.' the side of a debate shouting 'shut the fuck up' is definitely not the side WINNING or pwning the shit out of the other person. that's definitely a sign that you're drowning, and everything you posted after that was semantic nonsense or completely subjective.
at this point, it almost feels like you don't even have an argument to make, but you're just obsessed with getting the last word because it'll make you feel as though you've 'won'. if you're going pat yourself on the back and pander for attention as this hard-ass, at least come to a debate with better shit than this. i mean, you're the one bragging about everyone being on your side, but there have been tons of people viewing this thread and i don't see post after post agreeing with anything you're saying–probably because you're not really saying anything.
also, hulk hogan was the shit. everybody loves hulk hogan.
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I don't care about this little fight, but as some one who has read every chapters of Slam Dunk, Real and Vagabond, in my opinion Vagabond>Real>Slam Dunk. While all of them are good, Slam Dunk is the most popular, of course, because it's a fun, easy-to-read shounen that both adults and teenagers can read and enjoy, not to mention the marketing. Vagabond and Real are seinen with restricted age and a little hard-to-comprehend complexity, thus have less readers, methinks.
