@Harvady:
Your supposition is logical and all, but there are aspects that you've forgotten.
In the case of Elizabeth, she claimed to have been bitten. She was the first person to have done so, even after a supposed five nights of people turning into werewolves. The truth of the matter is, she flipped as a werewolf.
It would be quite disheartening to know that we contributed to her loss simply because none of us (Including Elizabeth, for that matter) knew that her transformation was a foregone conclusion.
The inverse: Elizabeth was a werewolf all along, and only came forward as a means to throw town off the tracks of the 'pure' wolves.
But the idea that Elizabeth was an enemy all along just doesn't add up when you look at her position. She could have much more easily stayed silent and pointed town in the wrong direction. It could have very well been a daring gambit, but it would be an extremely risky one.
I will always push players to play towards their win-condition, not doing so would undermine the basis of the game.
Heart flipping wolf doesn't surprise me, considering KI's write-up. he did mention explicitly she turned wolf upon the fall of night (so far the only write-up i notice that pays close attention to time details) and i think that he did so to let us know she had converted. if she was due to be converted but we killed her before night, she would flip townie and confuse us all. i think KI has done us a favour here.
New developments, though… most of the people on my old list are dead, so I kinda needed a new list.
Laser, he kinda hinted at defending TMR way back when me and him had our tussle. Well not really defend, he just said something along the lines of my accusations not being sensible or something. While I know they were not really proof, I still think I had something, I mean TMR practically said I am the only person without a partner... thats a pretty big claim. You gotta ask him why he thinks so right? Plus, he is a good player, with Nectar and you most likely town, I don't see TMR not even going for even ONE of you... I suspect he was bitten night 1...
list for the sake of a list? and why 4 people? 2 originals, and assuming a conversion each night gives us 7 (2 + 5 nights), minus 4 that died, that's 3 wolves.
i had to scroll back to see what you meant. and you're right, i didn't defend Midnight; i attacked the logic behind it. you insisted that Midnight was a werewolf / converted to one because of his singularity, which i didn't agree on, and i believe i'm right. Heart got bitten, so it brings to light that pairs can be attacked, unless Heart and Malice were another original pair, then that's something different.
I suggested Laserbeak and I am sticking with it for now.
I was'nt satisfied with his response.
response? to what? if i missed it, i apologise. i admitted i wasn't going to be around much of yesterday.
@Silent:
I haven't, since I have been sick and dealing with other real life things came first.
I do think laserbeak is a bit off, just a gut feeling, but still.
gut feeling's the easiest way of bandwagoning. it's even weaker than agreeing with an existing reason. gut feel this, gut feel that, hoping no one picks up on the lack of reasoning?
Midnight wasn't a dog. He was bitten.
i thought we established that? he wasn't an original werewolf. well now it's in the open.
now that i'm done with responding to posts targetted at me, i shall give me two cents worth.
for the past two nights, my partner has been acting weirdly. last night, he did not post at all in our quicktopic. the night before, he mentioned this:
"since we both know for sure that we're werewolves"
which i picked up on, since i was not. he did claim back then that it was a slip. i waited one day to see his actions, and he didn't exactly do much yesterday. i just don't think he's acting right since then.
vote lynch: Mr Habaneroo
and FSL has been very quiet recently. if he doesn't post today, i say we consider gun voting him. it's easy to come up with fluff at game start when you're mafia, but when the game progresses with more truths being brought to light, it's harder to construct theories and lies to mislead the town as mafia, as it becomes harder to be active, rather than reactive. at this point in time, bandwagoners weigh highly on my suspect list, slightly above lurkers.
here's my list, since we're throwing them out
- Silent - simply for bandwagoning for most part of the game.
- Malice - for being Heart's partner. we cannot rule out the possibility that Malice might be a werewolf too, though the probability is rather low. Malice's chattiness also make me slightly uncomfortable as it seems quite forced and uncharacteristic of her.
- FSL - for lurking, need i say more?
- vorlianis - for posting minimally and seemingly trying to slide under the radar.
of course, Haba's at the top of it, in case you don't already know.