I hate you all.
Look at it from the bright side wich is….. never mind.
Now let's see what this day will reveal.
I hate you all.
Look at it from the bright side wich is….. never mind.
Now let's see what this day will reveal.
One werewolf and one bandwagoner who doesn't help. I can live with that.
The Day didn't skip so lynching cursed/werewolves during the day IS the best option. IF Heart was telling the truth, there is a short period between getting bit and becoming a wolf. If you got bit, fess up now and let us kill you.
One werewolf and one bandwagoner who doesn't help. I can live with that.
The Day didn't skip so lynching cursed/werewolves during the day IS the best option. IF Heart was telling the truth, there is a short period between getting bit and becoming a wolf. If you got bit, fess up now and let us kill you.
… I sense a very townie vibe from this post. Now, if my understanding of the situation is correct, the town has NO inherent capabilities to defend against werewolf bite. In other words, the wolves are at full liberty to choose whoever they want to bite, and that person WILL be bitten. So, let me ask you Nectar... why the hell do I still sense townie vibes from you??
As for the other matter, as predicted, me and Malice did end up partnered, so for now I am inclined to believe Malice is town. That brings me to my next suspect, Mette. Anything you have to say??
… I sense a very townie vibe from this post. Now, if my understanding of the situation is correct, the town has NO inherent capabilities to defend against werewolf bite. In other words, the wolves are at full liberty to choose whoever they want to bite, and that person WILL be bitten. So, let me ask you Nectar... why the hell do I still sense townie vibes from you??
Making Nectar a werewolf would be a very dangerous move since if someone changes groups usually they'r way of playing is differently and since Neccie is hardly unnoticeable a change in his behavior would be sticking out like a sore thumb.
So the smartest move would be taking a low profile townie, not TO lowprofile since lurkers aren't quite appreciated in this game.
Yeah, I wondered about that and it would probably be mostly the people who aren't either really prominent townies or already suspected who would be the most logical targets.
One werewolf and one bandwagoner who doesn't help. I can live with that.
The Day didn't skip so lynching cursed/werewolves during the day IS the best option. IF Heart was telling the truth, there is a short period between getting bit and becoming a wolf. If you got bit, fess up now and let us kill you.
I'm actually worried that Heart wasn't telling the truth and that her confessing to being "bitten" was some sort of ruse to make us think that we had found the way of transmitting the curse. Seems likely a risky/not fully thought out plan, but, it is possible.
I'm actually worried that Heart wasn't telling the truth and that her confessing to being "bitten" was some sort of ruse to make us think that we had found the way of transmitting the curse. Seems likely a risky/not fully thought out plan, but, it is possible.
Why would that possibility suddenly not being possible anymore? But to be hoenst i expected something more along the lines of someone being able to counter a werewolf bite by biting the target himself neutralizing that conversion, is also why i asked if it was said wich alignment Eli now had. Well that is clear now i guess so my theories are out of the window.
Now i wanna see wether or not our new bitten one will confess.
Making Nectar a werewolf would be a very dangerous move since if someone changes groups usually they'r way of playing is differently and since Neccie is hardly unnoticeable a change in his behavior would be sticking out like a sore thumb.
So the smartest move would be taking a low profile townie, not TO lowprofile since lurkers aren't quite appreciated in this game.
@Silent:
Yeah, I wondered about that and it would probably be mostly the people who aren't either really prominent townies or already suspected who would be the most logical targets.
Hmmm… makes sense.
Anyway, lets just suppose the game begin with 03 werewolves. That seems like a logical default number, the 3 being, for the sake of argument, TMR, SUDK and Kinalara. Lets also suppose they can bite ONE person per night. Again seemingly logical choice, since we can kill two, if could also bite more then one, then we will never be able to catch up and the game would be unwinable. That means, there are likely 05 persons that were bitten (in five nights) adding the original 3, thats makes a total of 08 wolves. Out of these, we already killed 04, meaning there are 04 remaining. Of course this is all speculation.
So out of 13 of us alive, 4 are wolves... If we start killing TWO EVERYDAY from now on... in the worst case scenario; tomorrow there would be 6 town 5 wolves and we loose the next day. Not looking good people...
WE GOTTA KILL A WOLF TODAY!! Come on guys, look deeper, there are FOUR of them...
I say we do a hunch test, if you were to guess which 04 are most likely wolves, who would you pick. Mine would be.
@Silent:
Yeah, I wondered about that and it would probably be mostly the people who aren't either really prominent townies or already suspected who would be the most logical targets.
Huh? People who are already suspected? :wassat:
@vorlianis:
Now i wanna see wether or not our new bitten one will confess.
So do I.
@kmohyudin:
Current to suspect list:
Mette
Silent
Megicite
Vepe
Malice
I say we do a hunch test, if you were to guess which 04 are most likely wolves, who would you pick. Mine would be.
- laserbeak
- Maki707
- metteminne
- Silent Klabautermann
Why is your list different today?
Hmmm… makes sense.
Anyway, lets just suppose the game begin with 03 werewolves. That seems like a logical default number, the 3 being, for the sake of argument, TMR, SUDK and Kinalara. Lets also suppose they can bite ONE person per night. Again seemingly logical choice, since we can kill two, if could also bite more then one, then we will never be able to catch up and the game would be unwinable. That means, there are likely 05 persons that were bitten (in five nights) adding the original 3, thats makes a total of 08 wolves. Out of these, we already killed 04, meaning there are 04 remaining. Of course this is all speculation.
So out of 13 of us alive, 4 are wolves... If we start killing TWO EVERYDAY from now on... in the worst case scenario; tomorrow there would be 6 town 5 wolves and we loose the next day. Not looking good people...
WE GOTTA KILL A WOLF TODAY!! Come on guys, look deeper, there are FOUR of them...
I say we do a hunch test, if you were to guess which 04 are most likely wolves, who would you pick. Mine would be.
- laserbeak
- Maki707
- metteminne
- Silent Klabautermann
Your supposition is logical and all, but there are aspects that you've forgotten.
In the case of Elizabeth, she claimed to have been bitten. She was the first person to have done so, even after a supposed five nights of people turning into werewolves. The truth of the matter is, she flipped as a werewolf.
It would be quite disheartening to know that we contributed to her loss simply because none of us (Including Elizabeth, for that matter) knew that her transformation was a foregone conclusion.
The inverse: Elizabeth was a werewolf all along, and only came forward as a means to throw town off the tracks of the 'pure' wolves.
But the idea that Elizabeth was an enemy all along just doesn't add up when you look at her position. She could have much more easily stayed silent and pointed town in the wrong direction. It could have very well been a daring gambit, but it would be an extremely risky one.
All things aside, I am waiting for a few answers from our deity. My theory was that a bitten player could still die as a townie if killed before the night. The fact that Elizabeth flipped as a werewolf could prove that we inadvertently allowed/pushed someone to play against their own faction.
I will always push players to play towards their win-condition, not doing so would undermine the basis of the game.
Therefore, if I don't receive an answer to my question, we have only two options remaining to find the truth.
First, we get a 'bitten' claim, and lynch (not shoot) them, to see if they flip werewolf or town.
Second, we kill Elizabeth's partner, Malice, to see whether Elizabeth was converted or started as a werewolf.
Keep in mind that I do expect to get an answer, but in the event I don't, I feel more inclined to believe Elizabeth, and will push for option one.
(This is assuming that you all actually want to know the truth.)
Lastly: Those picks of yours, Kmohyudin, you have a pair of partners up there with Mette and Silent, and yet you single out Maki and laser. Both of whom, still have their partner.
What makes you NOT suspect Nectar or Habaneroo? If you're such an advocate of 'Werewolves-have-added-to-their-numbers-since-N1', How can you put one up and not the other?
Huh? People who are already suspected? :wassat:
Why is your list different today?
That's fairly obvious, Maki. (I don't normally answer for other people, but I'd like us to nip such a simple argument.)
Magicite's dead. He flipped town. His partner is likely to be town. Elizabeth was the first and only to claim being bitten, her partner's likely town. Thus, those three are off the list, and two who are relatively new to being on the block are up.
You see, town keeps people talking so Mafia/Wolves will slip up. But as it happens, Mafia can do the same thing to town. So if you're trying to push suspicion on someone for such an easy tell, that kind of looks like you're doing it on purpose.
As I posted, the more pressing question is the people he left out.
Huh? People who are already suspected? :wassat:
I meant them as in seeming like a risky choice of target along with the really obvious townie players. Obviously doesn't mean it couldn't or didn't happen, but still…
Elisabeth being an enemy from the start just doesn't make any sense. It's risky and they wouldn't gain anything from it apart from her dying, if it really was on purpose. If their alignment already changed, it might pose a problem for us.
I was'nt pushing suspicion on anybody.
I want to basically know why myself and Laserbeak are on the list when we were'nt on it yesterday before we said anything today.
And I don't understand why anybody should be suspected because they have partners if it is beleived Malice is innocent and we have already killed the original werewolves.
Why is your list different today?
New developments, though… most of the people on my old list are dead, so I kinda needed a new list. Vepe is still a suspect to me, but Magicite flipping town had me a bit confused. I really don't know what to think of her now.
@Harvady:
Your supposition is logical and all, but there are aspects that you've forgotten.
In the case of Elizabeth, she claimed to have been bitten. She was the first person to have done so, even after a supposed five nights of people turning into werewolves. The truth of the matter is, she flipped as a werewolf.
It would be quite disheartening to know that we contributed to her loss simply because none of us (Including Elizabeth, for that matter) knew that her transformation was a foregone conclusion.
The inverse: Elizabeth was a werewolf all along, and only came forward as a means to throw town off the tracks of the 'pure' wolves.
But the idea that Elizabeth was an enemy all along just doesn't add up when you look at her position. She could have much more easily stayed silent and pointed town in the wrong direction. It could have very well been a daring gambit, but it would be an extremely risky one.
Wait, so how did that make my supposition wrong? I mean, she flipped wolf, we killed her, she most likely got bitten that same night as you yourself agree… so... whats the problem?
All things aside, I am waiting for a few answers from our deity. My theory was that a bitten player could still die as a townie if killed before the night. The fact that Elizabeth flipped as a werewolf could prove that we inadvertently allowed/pushed someone to play against their own faction.
You think thats against the rules?? People acting against the favor of their factions?
I will always push players to play towards their win-condition, not doing so would undermine the basis of the game.
Therefore, if I don't receive an answer to my question, we have only two options remaining to find the truth.
First, we get a 'bitten' claim, and lynch (not shoot) them, to see if they flip werewolf or town.
Second, we kill Elizabeth's partner, Malice, to see whether Elizabeth was converted or started as a werewolf.
I honestly don't see what the wolves will gain by killing their own. I mean, how is that ruse beneficial? Wolves win by gaining majority, Eli was NOT a suspect. Doesn't add up.
Keep in mind that I do expect to get an answer, but in the event I don't, I feel more inclined to believe Elizabeth, and will push for option one.
(This is assuming that you all actually want to know the truth.)
Lastly: Those picks of yours, Kmohyudin, you have a pair of partners up there with Mette and Silent, and yet you single out Maki and laser. Both of whom, still have their partner.
What makes you NOT suspect Nectar or Habaneroo? If you're such an advocate of 'Werewolves-have-added-to-their-numbers-since-N1', How can you put one up and not the other?
I say we do a hunch test, if you were to guess which 04 are most likely wolves, who would you pick. Mine would be.
I really had NO credible proof, or even something I could use to accuse. I went by PURE hunch. Here is why:
Silent defends too much and I don't see her helping the town… She was under my radar from the get go, but I could never find anything against her, just a feeling that there is something not right.
Maki I don't know, even though he voted or hinted at voting for me twice, I still don't see him focusing on any one target. He just randomly says stuff... and I know that's how he plays... but... he always dies early too...
Mette, no real need to tell anyone why
Laser, he kinda hinted at defending TMR way back when me and him had our tussle. Well not really defend, he just said something along the lines of my accusations not being sensible or something. While I know they were not really proof, I still think I had something, I mean TMR practically said I am the only person without a partner... thats a pretty big claim. You gotta ask him why he thinks so right? Plus, he is a good player, with Nectar and you most likely town, I don't see TMR not even going for even ONE of you... I suspect he was bitten night 1...
I was'nt pushing suspicion on anybody.
I want to basically know why myself and Laserbeak are on the list when we were'nt on it yesterday before we said anything today.
Just to be clear, I used the words "If you're trying". But it's quite clear that he's going with the process of elimination.
And I don't understand why anybody should be suspected because they have partners if it is beleived Malice is innocent and we have already killed the original werewolves.
What makes you say that? Is it strictly the idea that they had to have characters who are in relation to dogs?
That is baseless and dangerous. Even if the character correlation was true, it's an easy task to make up a fake-claim. Who's to say we don't have Akainu or Garp about?
No one before Elizabeth claimed a bite, so we can imagine that they weren't biting back then. Thus, there must've been more than three original werewolves. The likely number, if that's the case, is five. Two pairs, and one lone wolf.
@Harvady:
What makes you say that? Is it strictly the idea that they had to have characters who are in relation to dogs?
That is baseless and dangerous. Even if the character correlation was true, it's an easy task to make up a fake-claim. Who's to say we don't have Akainu or Garp about?
Characters don't really matter to me. The fact is… BOTH of them were wolves, something we have not seen again. With Malice being my partner now, and Eli claiming bitten. I am fairly certain, for now Malice is town. There is one other thing that makes me believe this, and thats our new quicktopic. I am pretty sure you know what I mean.
No one before Elizabeth claimed a bite, so we can imagine that they weren't biting back then. Thus, there must've been more than three original werewolves. The likely number, if that's the case, is five. Two pairs, and one lone wolf.
No one other then Eli claiming bitten does not necessary imply no one was bitten. Eli chose to reveal, others didn't. For now we have no way of knowing. If people weren't getting bitten then you may be right, the starting number could be five. Though, when do you suppose this whole biting thing started then, the 67th hour?
Wait, so how did that make my supposition wrong? I mean, she flipped wolf, we killed her, she most likely got bitten that same night as you yourself agree… so... whats the problem?
I didn't say it was wrong. I said that you missed some points. Points that could strongly affect your argument. You needed to be made aware.
You think thats against the rules?? People acting against the favor of their factions?
Yes. Very much so. It's one thing to make a mistake or take a risk, but if you do it on purpose, it's the same as outing all of your mafia partners intentionally.
So what of Habaneroo?
@Harvady:
I didn't say it was wrong. I said that you missed some points. Points that could strongly affect your argument. You needed to be made aware.
Yes. Very much so. It's one thing to make a mistake or take a risk, but if you do it on purpose, it's the same as outing all of your mafia partners intentionally.
Oh, okay, point taken, thanks.
So what of Habaneroo?
He will be a very strong suspect. Once his partner flips wolf :devil:. For now, he is not so high up my list.
And guys, I am not seeing any hunch lists… I strongly suggest putting those out, again choosing four players most likely to be wolves. I think that would kinda discourage band-wagoning and help outing the bad guys.
I suggested Laserbeak and I am sticking with it for now.
I was'nt satisfied with his response.
I suggested Laserbeak and I am sticking with it for now.
I was'nt satisfied with his response.
I was hoping for 4 options…
Okay for now we have:
Laserbeak.......... 02
Silent................ 01
Maki................. 01
Mette............... 01
... :sad:
I think that would kinda discourage band-wagoning and help outing the bad guys.
How would that discourage bandwagoning? I think it would encourage people to jump on since if someone repeats some of your hunches, we still won't know whether it's genuine or just bandwagoning for the sake of it.
Fine, my other suggestion is Metteminne.
2 is all I have right now.
@Silent: Have you suggested anybody as mafia recently?
I'm starting to get the sense you are trying to avoid doing so.
@Silent:
How would that discourage bandwagoning? I think it would encourage people to jump on since if someone repeats some of your hunches, we still won't know whether it's genuine or just bandwagoning for the sake of it.
It does, believe me please.
Fine, my other suggestion is Metteminne.
2 is all I have right now.
Laserbeak…....... 02
Silent................ 01
Maki................. 01
Mette............... 02
Bah, this is going too slow!!
Mostly i have the less active people in sight.
Mettemine
Flaming Spirit-Luffy
Mr Habanero
Haba posted for a short while but died down afterwards.
Also i wish i could also say my deal about Laser but for some reason i don't really remember what kinda things he all said.
Laserbeak…....... 02
Silent................ 01
Maki................. 01
Mette............... 03
FSL...................01
Habaneero..........01
Just for reference [people who provided lists…]: Vor, Maki
OH FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I edited my post… sorry host :( I just added the last line, completely out of habit!!
I haven't, since I have been sick and dealing with other real life things came first.
I do think laserbeak is a bit off, just a gut feeling, but still.
Laserbeak…....... 02
Silent................ 01
Maki................. 01
Mette............... 03
FSL...................01
Habaneero..........01Just for reference [people who provided lists…]: Vor, Maki
Oh yeah sorry forgot to add Silent to that, she's been a little to much on the sidelines acting like a spectator commenting on how the game flows and give commentary then an actual player.
@Silent:
I haven't, since I have been sick and dealing with other real life things came first.
I do think laserbeak is a bit off, just a gut feeling, but still.
Oh yeah sorry forgot to add Silent to that, she's been a little to much on the sidelines acting like a spectator commenting on how the game flows and give commentary then an actual player.
Laserbeak…....... 03 [Kmo, Maki, Silent]
Silent…............. 02 [Kmo, Vor]
Maki….............. 01 [Kmo]
Mette…............ 03 [Kmo, Vor, Maki]
FSL…................01 [Vor]
Habaneero….......01 [Vor]
Just for reference [people who provided lists…]: Vor, Maki, Silent
Which has been my style in pretty much every game, more or less.
@Silent:
Which has been my style in pretty much every game, more or less.
And is not really a hard role to mimick at all while being the towns enemy.
We find the enemies due to asking questions, relaying points, suggesting ideas. I realise you are sick and are busy but that kind of attitude was what destroyed Harvs game.
my suspects are vor and laser
and we indeed should watch out for the ones who dont post often
then again , i am the one saying it :/
@metteminne:
my suspects are vor and laser
and we indeed should watch out for the ones who dont post often
then again , i am the one saying it :/
Interesting… why Vor??
Laserbeak.......... 04 [Kmo, Maki, Silent, Mette]
Silent…............. 02 [Kmo, Vor]
Maki….............. 01 [Kmo]
Mette…............ 03 [Kmo, Vor, Maki]
FSL…................01 [Vor]
Habaneero….......01 [Vor]
Vor…................01 [Mette]
Just for reference [people who provided lists…]: Vor, Maki, Silent, mette
Kefka was a townie, no surprise. :sad: I’m surprise that players actually voted him because his partner said he didn’t post in the quicktopics. Bogart did so too and he was a townie.
I really hope there’s a way for us to realize how the curse works, if we can anticipate who’s gonna get bitten because without any investigative role and a clue of what’s the mafia doing (when they have a kill, the game’s a little easier to follow but now it’s pitch black) and with us, without any clue performing both kills, we have almost none chances to win, unless, of course, the cult rule works in this game too and if we find the Godfather (Alpha WereWolf?), everyone dies alongside with him. He’s probably immune to lynches but the gun works for everyone as KI once (or twice :D) said.
One werewolf and one bandwagoner who doesn't help. I can live with that.
The Day didn't skip so lynching cursed/werewolves during the day IS the best option. IF Heart was telling the truth, there is a short period between getting bit and becoming a wolf. If you got bit, fess up now and let us kill you.
That bandwagoner was a townie and by killing him we just helped the werewolves’s number getting with 1 more person closer to our number. I’m not happy with that at all.
While I do agree that the allegiance of someone bitten won’t change in an instant, I don’t think the KI would let us do so, judging by what happened to Eli. It wouldn’t be fair for the mafia and a mod must be fair. I think we should find by ourselves and lynch the bitten before a certain amount of time (maybe here is where that 67th hour comes?) passes. Maybe the bitten should give a hint (of course, if he/she still wants to be with the town, everyone’s free to chose) otherwise I think KI would add another “10 or so hours…” just for the bitten to get converted (assuming that being sleepy wasn't the only reason for KI to make the dayphase go on). Maybe we could ask and that person answers to the question instead of him admitting without being questioned…
And guys, I am not seeing any hunch lists… I strongly suggest putting those out, again choosing four players most likely to be wolves. I think that would kinda discourage band-wagoning and help outing the bad guys.
Well, let’s see (no particular order):
Laser
Mette
Mr Haba
If I had to pick a 4th, it would be Maki but just because by being Nectar’s partner would be quite hard to be accused by the town . Though, I'm not sure this is a good reason to have him on the list.
SK depends on Mette's allegiance (but if he's not an original mafia, I'd say Mette's the converted, not SK) so I'm not gonna include her in my list.
I'd say Nectar is a good candidate too – but this only after Midnight’s got lynched and if Laser isn’t a werewolf. Those two pay a lot of attention to the thread (maybe others do so too but these two come to mind and one was mafia while the other I find suspicious) and they wouldn’t turn someone who plays by his own rules just to have him "suddenly" change his posted ideas. Kinda risky imo.
Btw, this is just a hunch feeling I had in the minute I wrote, no finger pointed to anyone, I don't actually trust any of you and I guess most of you are feeling the same.
And regarding the list, I think that we shouldn't rush (sorry to the players in the Graveyard, must be annoying to wait!) neither with the lynch nor the gunvote. I really want for the "future" targets to have a word to say, not to come online and see they're already dead/soon to be dead (for the gunvote).
If I had to pick a 4th, it would be Maki but just because by being Nectar’s partner would be quite hard to be accused by the town .
Being Nectars partner has got nothing to do with town accusations.
And regarding the list, I think that we shouldn't rush (sorry to the players in the Graveyard, must be annoying to wait!) neither with the lynch nor the gunvote. I really want for the "future" targets to have a word to say, not to come online and see they're already dead/soon to be dead (for the gunvote).
Not gunning anyone, just trying to figure out what the general consensus is.
Laserbeak…....... 05 [Kmo, Maki, Silent, Mette, Malice]
Silent…............. 02 [Kmo, Vor]
Maki….............. 01 [Kmo, Malice]
Mette…............ 03 [Kmo, Vor, Maki, Malice]
FSL…................01 [Vor]
Habaneero….......01 [Vor, Malice]
Vor…................01 [Mette]
Just for reference [people who provided lists…]: Vor, Maki, Silent, mette, Malice
MATH FAIL!!
Laserbeak…....... 05 [Kmo, Maki, Silent, Mette, Malice]
Silent…............. 02 [Kmo, Vor]
Maki….............. 02 [Kmo, Malice]
Mette…............ 04 [Kmo, Vor, Maki, Malice]
FSL…................01 [Vor]
Habaneero….......02 [Vor, Malice]
Vor…................01 [Mette]
Just for reference [people who provided lists…]: Vor, Maki, Silent, mette, Malice
And is not really a hard role to mimick at all while being the towns enemy.
We find the enemies due to asking questions, relaying points, suggesting ideas. I realise you are sick and are busy but that kind of attitude was what destroyed Harvs game.
I haven't seen any real ideas from you either though, just small observations.
I understand that that kind of attitude is what ruined last game, though I do have to say that I'm not a leader/idea person at all, if that's what you're expecting of me.
Pretty much all suspects I had are dead already anyway and most of the time I have little to add because what I want to say has been said already.
I'm not trusting anyone in here right now, by the way, though I take it most people here will have the same feeling.
I don't actually trust any of you and I guess most of you are feeling the same.
@Silent:
I'm not trusting anyone in here right now, by the way, though I take it most people here will have the same feeling.
Actually… I have a number of people I am quite willing to trust based on my observation. Since I think I have the basis of the game pretty much understood.
I would trust Kmo and Vorlianis for now…maybe Malice.
That's about it.
This is subject to change of course :D
@Silent:
I haven't seen any real ideas from you either though, just small observations.
I understand that that kind of attitude is what ruined last game, though I do have to say that I'm not a leader/idea person at all, if that's what you're expecting of me.
Pretty much all suspects I had are dead already anyway and most of the time I have little to add because what I want to say has been said already.
I did raise up suggestions and ideas, not saying they were all top notch ideas and on the mark but i attempted, i'm not looking here for a whole Sherlock holmes team neither am i suggesting we bust out the werewolves in a straight line.
If you got ideas suggest em, if you're suspects are dead make new ones if you are wrong and are perhaps killed by it you can learn from those mistakes, mafia is a game wich has constantly changing circumstances due to peoples experiences no one is pressuring you into making decisions you don't want.
If you see a lead follow it standing by the sidelines doubting yourself and your capabilities is good for no one least of all town no one is going to scold you or anything for making a bad decision you can learn out of em.
weren't all " damn spelling mistakes
Nobody is going to be lynched for making an incorrect accusation. The game is'nt really about who is making the right accusations.
It's judging what the motovation behind the accusations are - i.e. is it an honest accusation from a townie or a false accusation from a mafia member?
We need all the ideas and opinions we can get. There is little point in hiding any thoughts at this stage.
Okay while we are waiting for others to name suspicions anyone wanna discuss who gets the gun?
I'll vote for Vorlianis I guess.
Okay while we are waiting for others to name suspicions anyone wanna discuss who gets the gun?
I'll vote for Vorlianis I guess.
All in due time!!
For now I really think the hunch list is important. I don't want the discussion to move away. Furthermore, we can lengthen the day to 72 hours if we want to.
Seriously, lynching or gunning a townie would be VERY VERY bad today, so everyone, take this seriously and don't change the topic.
No need to panic just yet..there is, what around 4 of them? We can kill twice a day.
That being said we only have 13 players here and among them are 3-5 threats. If we discuss this enough and use both the lynch and the gun shot by a voting majority we should be able to take at least one of them out.
If we killed 1 town and 1 werewolf today I would be satisfied. As we narrow the game down this will become clearer.
If we killed 1 town and 1 werewolf today I would be satisfied. As we narrow the game down this will become clearer.
Yep, we need a wolf kill tonight. Not panicking, just reminding everyone, this is important.
Still need to figure out the "team" angle. The only thing I can think of is being on a team helps protect you. If so, anyone without a partner instantly turns into a werewolf.
I'm actually worried that Heart wasn't telling the truth and that her confessing to being "bitten" was some sort of ruse to make us think that we had found the way of transmitting the curse. Seems likely a risky/not fully thought out plan, but, it is possible.
It's a dumb plan if it's true. The #1 reason why the Town will win: Midnight is dead. The originals probably got scared and bit him early so he could lead. Without Midnight, it's only a matter of time.
Hmmm… makes sense.
Anyway, lets just suppose the game begin with 03 werewolves. That seems like a logical default number, the 3 being, for the sake of argument, TMR, SUDK and Kinalara. Lets also suppose they can bite ONE person per night. Again seemingly logical choice, since we can kill two, if could also bite more then one, then we will never be able to catch up and the game would be unwinable. That means, there are likely 05 persons that were bitten (in five nights) adding the original 3, thats makes a total of 08 wolves. Out of these, we already killed 04, meaning there are 04 remaining. Of course this is all speculation.
Midnight wasn't a dog. He was bitten.
I say we do a hunch test, if you were to guess which 04 are most likely wolves, who would you pick. Mine would be.
- laserbeak
- Maki707
- metteminne
- Silent Klabautermann
Silent, Malice, and Flaming-Luffy.
Silent because she's useless like SUDK and Kinlara. Malice because either he bit Heart or the cursed/wolves would bit him thinking he was cleared by the Townies. Flaming because he doesn't stand out.
@Harvady:
All things aside, I am waiting for a few answers from our deity. My theory was that a bitten player could still die as a townie if killed before the night. The fact that Elizabeth flipped as a werewolf could prove that we inadvertently allowed/pushed someone to play against their own faction.
She kept begging to get lynched. We should have done it sooner.
@Silent:
Which has been my style in pretty much every game, more or less.
You can do better if you want.
Lynch Vote: Silent Klabautermann
Kefka was a townie, no surprise. :sad: I’m surprise that players actually voted him because his partner said he didn’t post in the quicktopics. Bogart did so too and he was a townie.
His own partner didn't trust him! It's one thing to be neutral with your partner but to post saying you suspect your partner is a big thing.
All in due time!!
For now I really think the hunch list is important. I don't want the discussion to move away. Furthermore, we can lengthen the day to 72 hours if we want to.
Seriously, lynching or gunning a townie would be VERY VERY bad today, so everyone, take this seriously and don't change the topic.
Anything but extending the Day. Let's not drag this on.
Mayor Vote: Nectar
Gun Vote: Malice or Flaming-Luffy