To tell you the truth, 30 mil even sounds a little big for her. Right now, anyway.
Future bounties
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agreed, if Nami does defeat one of the cp9 members then she should get a bounty
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Of course 30 mio sound big… so do 500 mio for luffy
They invaded Enies Lobby.. 30.000.000 ... peanuts if you ask me....
30.000.000 would be 300'000 $, am I right?Imagine: Someone destroyed the Pentagon and got away. 300'000$ as a bounty of a main attacker sounds too little...
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…And what did she do so far? Shock a handful of people? 500million sounds too big to me as well. But, well, compare what he's doing and what she's done so far.
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You know with all the events that take place in this arc the impression I had of what will happen seems very unlikely right now. But the gambler in me doesn´t like to change the horses in the middle of the race. So I´ll still stay by that what I´ve said long ago and that´s that Luffy will get a new bounty after he defeats Doflamingo. Not sure about the hight, could be 400.000.000 though I´m not sure.
Yeah I know I said it a couple of times already. I just wanted to point out that I still stay by it no matter what happens in Enies Lobby.
About the Nami thing. Though I wouldn´t like to see her get a high bounty I have to say that bounties are adressed at criminals of all kinds, not only to those who fight well. Nami is for instance a world class thieve. Just let her steal something from one of the Gorousei and the ego of these guys will make a very high bounty possible. In the real world big time thieves are also wanted much more then a guy who just robbed a bank.
And though it is not a big deal to us, before the law what she did at Drum could already be taken as high criminal act. She stole Wapol´s key to the royal armory. Of course we know Luffy could have defeated Wapol even if he ate all the canons, if you look at it from the perspective of the law (the Gorousei) it can be interpreted that Nami aided in taking down a ruler and his kingdom of the World Government with her unique skills. It´s a different point of view that none the less is justified.
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Wow. Good point, Ivotas. I forgot about that.
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500m and 30m…
luffy getting a increase by 400m... while nami only gets 30m overall? that'd e strange...I don't think it's a good idea for the "essential" members of the Strawhats to get bounties, else they be targeted. As of right now, Luffy, Zoro, and Robin are the only pirates with bounties; in relation to the crew, they really have little use aside from fighting. Think about it this way:
Luffy: Captain
Nami: Navigator
Usopp: Marksmen/Jack of all Trades
Chopper: Doctor
Zoro: Swordsman
Robin: Archeologist
Sanji: CookOf all of those functions, Cook, Doctor, and Navigator are essential; without those three, the Strawhat pirates would collapse. Usopp comes in second with his "Jack of All Trades" abilities, which make him so versatile he can make up for the missing functions (like Shipbuilding) and fill in (albeit in a mediocre manner) for the "hands on" functions above.
In terms of necessity for survival, or moving through Grandline, Luffy, Zoro, and Robin are useless, and it's no coicidence they are the only ones to have bounties.
Also, remember, again, that bounties are not power levels; Foxy almost beat Luffy, and he had a 20,000,000 bounty. Don't forget that East Blue wasn't too far away in the story's timeline, and 30,000,000 is still a huge amount; I think it fits Nami quite well. Still low enough in comparison to Luffy to keep Nami out of harm's way, but still large enough to illustrate how powerful she has become in recent times.
Of course 30 mio sound big… so do 500 mio for luffy
They invaded Enies Lobby.. 30.000.000 ... peanuts if you ask me....
30.000.000 would be 300'000 $, am I right?Imagine: Someone destroyed the Pentagon and got away. 300'000$ as a bounty of a main attacker sounds too little...
It isn't. Bounties are based on how the government percieves an individual to be a threat, not on how powerful the individual is. Since the assualt on Enies Lobby is a first, it's likely nothing like that has ever happend to the most powerful of Marine Bases, so it's logical for Luffy to surpass someone like de Flamingo. Also, since people are estimating Whitebeard to be in the 1,000,000,000 range, we should guess that Luffy need be about half that to prove a significant challenger for the title of Pirate King.
Lastly, look at the crimes the Strawhats are going to be charged with:
- Destruction of Water 7.
- Attempted assassination of Iceburg, Mayor of Water 7.
- Defeat of CP6 leader, Jerry, CP5 leader, CP7 leader Wanze, T-Bone, Marine Captain of Enies Lobby
- Destruction of Enies Lobby, defeat ot 10,000 marines, 11 impartial jurors, 100 Houbantai, Judge Baskerville.
- Defeat of secret intelligence squadron, CP9.
- Defeat of Aokiji, the Blue Pheasant, Grand Admiral of the Navy.
!7) Possible battles at Impel Down/Marine Head Quarters.
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Lastly, look at the crimes the Strawhats are going to be charged with:
- Destruction of Water 7.
- Attempted assassination of Iceburg, Mayor of Water 7.
- Defeat of CP6 leader, Jerry, CP5 leader, CP7 leader Wanze, T-Bone, Marine Captain of Enies Lobby
- Destruction of Enies Lobby, defeat ot 10,000 marines, 11 impartial jurors, 100 Houbantai, Judge Baskerville.
- Defeat of secret intelligence squadron, CP9.
6) Defeat of Aokiji, the Blue Pheasant, Grand Admiral of the Navy.
!7) Possible battles at Impel Down/Marine Head Quarters.
…......................When did that happen?
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…......................When did that happen?
He could have meant the little skirmish they had with him, or the possible future defeat. But adding all those up does make a large increase to all of their bounties.
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hmm….i agree with malintex...it would be weird if more than 3 members of the strawhats got a bounty...i just can't picture them going into battle and extra crewmembers going " omg...its sanji....with xxxxx bounty...omg...nami xxx bounty" etc... i only see it working for Luffy, Zoro and Robin. Since Zoro has been known as a pirate hunter and he looks very intimdating. Luffy although, not intimidating, no one expects him to have such a high bounty, and when they find out its already too late. And Robin since shes been known as some notorious criminal since she was a kid.
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…......................When did that happen?
You didn't read carefully enough, Jack. I did say "…the crimes the Strawhats are going to be charged with", didn't I?
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Well, even if they do encounter and defeat Aokiji, it'd help a bit if you put it in order.
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Moreso, it'd help if you were talking about THIS ARC.
I KNOW you meant will be…. but you meant WILL BE AFTER ENEIS LOBBY, right?
When is it ever mentioned Aokiji is even there, let alone hitned that they'll fight him there?
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people, this is not the point, yes nami is weak and wont probably beat guys that luffy is beating, BUT she is HELPING LUFFY and THE CREW. she is the navigator of the strawhats, if she is not there then SHPirates would collapse, if nami isnt w/ them its like a gorilla w/o its p3n1s (lolz). so i think nami deserves a high bounty not because of how well she fights but because she is an important element for the guy that is expected to get a big bounty boost, LUFFY
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Some predictions:
Luffy, 175 million. Since Don Flamingo's bounty is 340 million and going by the presumption that Luffy's face off with him won't be for another few more arcs (at least 1 more after the W7 arc - going by rumors, it's my belief that the next arc will be Blackbeard's arc), this allows his bounty to develop a bit before he battles the Don.
Zoro - 125 million. 115 million would be about 3/5th's Luffy's 175. But making it that much would be all too predictable since Zoro's bounty is currently 3/5th's Luffy, and we all know Oda is all but predictable. So I made it 125 million.
Sanji - 115 million. Any less and the rivalry going on between the two wouldn't be as fun. Sanji can still claim that his first bounty is far higher than Zoro's first.
Robin - 300 million (maybe even up to 500 million!). Higher than Luffy's because threat to the government and to the world is now too great to be ignored (they now know without a doubt that she's still alive, joined a formidable crew, and is actively searching for the ponoglyphs), much greater than Luffy's threat. Robin could potentionally bring down the world government along with the entire world. Does the world government think or even imagine Luffy could do the same? A higher bounty doesn't necessarily mean that she's stronger than Luffy. But still, with the higher bounty, everyone will think Robin is the captain and not Luffy, which will keep Luffy in a sort of underdog status for a bit longer. For example, imagine this scenario. 'Tough guy' beats up Robin, imagines "pffft, 300 million isn't all that great. The government must've had a screw or two loose when they came up with the bounties for this crew. Easy money!" Luffy shows up to defend his nakama. Guy imagines "even though you're worth 175 million I just defeated someone who's worth 300 million beri (or up to 500 million!), you can't be all that tough." Goodbye 'tough guy'!
Making her bounty that high also keeps her strength as ambiguous as it's always been. Although I don't think she's as tough as Luffy, we'll still keep guessing whether she's as tough or tougher than Zoro or even Sanji.
Nami - 50 million. It's bigger than Arlong's bounty and 50 million is a nice rounded number isn't it? Other than that, no rhyme or reason.
Sogeking/Usoop - 51 million. No rhyme or reason other than it being a smidgeon higher than Nami's.
Chopper - 60 million
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Luffy has always been underestimated by everyone so far in OP so it would seem fair that he won't get a massive bounty that some suggest. The WG might hear reports that someoen else was responsible for the damage.
Whereas Robin has always been in the WG sights and after the Enies Lobby arc I can see hers going up considerably.
Zoro's and Sanji's woudl probs end up being the same or close enough so that they can keep bickering about who i sstrongest.
I doubt that everty member of the straw hats will get a bounty and it's Chopper I see who doesn't get one, to maintain the innocence that comes with him.
'Sogeking' will propbaly get one, or maybe he'll become known as the giant hypnotiser or something like that after he managed to get the EL giants to change sides. Like how Zoro became known as the pirate hunter, even though he didn't really go after piates but just wanted money to pay for food.
As for Nam, I dunno really, it's anyone's guess.I also see the Franky Family getting one as a group, maybe about 200 million. I see this because I think they'll become their own pirate crew with Paulie taking over as leader because Franky will join the Straw Hats.
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Luffy has always been underestimated by everyone so far in OP so it would seem fair that he won't get a massive bounty that some suggest. The WG might hear reports that someoen else was responsible for the damage.
I think there´s no room for vagueness in such a delicate matter as the invasion of Enies Lobby. This is such a big thing that is currently happening that there´s almost no chance that the WG will not investigate precicely on that matter. And what Kokoro says about this event in the latest chapter (388) I take as foreshadowing.
Luffy will be a big player after Enies Lobby. A threat that needs to be dealt with as soon as possible. And even if it is just for the sake to keep the integrety of the WG intact.
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I think some of us are throwing out random arbitrary numbers here :)
Of course, now I'm going to throw out my own numbers.
Luffy: 200-250 million.
This puts in that untouchable and very dangerous range. Personally, I think Luffy's next bounty will put him close to Shank's, but of course, we don't know Shank's bounty yet.
Zoro and Sanji: 120 million.
It was already pointed out that Sanji said he would double Zoro's bounty. Well I think there would be great comedy if he got his wish, but he was tied with Zoro. The Zoro/Sanji fights about the bounty could work well.
Robin: 100-150 million. I don't think they wouldn't raise her bounty if they now knew for a fact that she could use her powers to help an extremely dangerous pirate in Luffy.
Ussop, Nami, and Chopper: I think all of them will either have no bounty or a bounty in the 30-60 million range. For fun, lets say, 55 mil, 30 mil, and 40 mil respectively.
Some things I kept in mind when I was thinking about the bounties. 100 million + is slowly entering godly territory. Blackbeard is trying to gain acceptance into the Schibukai by defeating 100+ pirates.
With Bellamy's and Sarquiss's arrogance, and how they reacted to Luffy's 30 million bounty, I think 30-60 (possibly even up to 75) is a pretty standard damn good pirate range on the Grand Line.
So with my predictions, the Straw Hats have Luffy at 200+ million which pretty much enters him into godly status. You have three of his officers at 100+. And then you have three others in the pretty good pirates range of 30-60. I think the numbers are pretty reasonable, and it will effectively make them an extremely dangerous force. Nobody will want to mess with them except for the government, and the strongest of pirates.
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You guys really lose me on the Nami-bounty thing. It's likely that she'll have one since she's a Straw Hat (the true heavyweight rookies), but it doesn't have to be high or much at all, and it shouldn't. If people got a bounty for helping, then Galley-La would be totally sunk, as their three greatest foremen are in on this.
Being an "element" isn't enough. She has to be an actual threat. They don't need a bounty to be executed as pirates or assistants, so it's not like they'd be ignoring her role by not giving her one.
And Luffy coming out of this still a small fry or Robin taking most of the blame is….well....
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I think some of us are throwing out random arbitrary numbers here :)
Of course, now I'm going to throw out my own numbers.
Luffy: 200-250 million.
This puts in that untouchable and very dangerous range. Personally, I think Luffy's next bounty will put him close to Shank's, but of course, we don't know Shank's bounty yet.
Zoro and Sanji: 120 million.
It was already pointed out that Sanji said he would double Zoro's bounty. Well I think there would be great comedy if he got his wish, but he was tied with Zoro. The Zoro/Sanji fights about the bounty could work well.
Robin: 100-150 million. I don't think they wouldn't raise her bounty if they now knew for a fact that she could use her powers to help an extremely dangerous pirate in Luffy.
Ussop, Nami, and Chopper: I think all of them will either have no bounty or a bounty in the 30-60 million range. For fun, lets say, 55 mil, 30 mil, and 40 mil respectively.
Some things I kept in mind when I was thinking about the bounties. 100 million + is slowly entering godly territory. Blackbeard is trying to gain acceptance into the Schibukai by defeating 100+ pirates.
With Bellamy's and Sarquiss's arrogance, and how they reacted to Luffy's 30 million bounty, I think 30-60 (possibly even up to 75) is a pretty standard damn good pirate range on the Grand Line.
So with my predictions, the Straw Hats have Luffy at 200+ million which pretty much enters him into godly status. You have three of his officers at 100+. And then you have three others in the pretty good pirates range of 30-60. I think the numbers are pretty reasonable, and it will effectively make them an extremely dangerous force. Nobody will want to mess with them except for the government, and the strongest of pirates.
You know what? I completly agree with you, that amount of their bounties seem to be quite fair.
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Well, this is overall hard to predict the future bounties, cause the arc is still going on - everything can happen. I'll still be listing whole crew, my own toughts about possible bounties and things that each characters have done, will do and are doing.
Luffy: Will of course have the biggest increase in bounty. Last time it got from 30.000.000 -> 100.000.000 and what did he do between it? Luffy kicks only bad guys asses, too bad that they are all reputated with WG or something. ie. Wapol & Crocodile. I'm sure I've missed few points that affected bounty, but those were main reasons. Especially Crocodile.
Even if almost all of the reasons that are leading to bigger bounty has been already told, but I'll list my owns:
1. He (and other strawhats) is being suspected for killing Iceburg, even if truth was revealed.
2. Raiding Enies Lobby - this is the most crucial part and will effect mostly.
3. will be part of beating cp9 (?)
When I think about these things I'd say the bounty will be something like 220.000.000-180.000.000. Over 220.000.000 would be a bit too much and under 180.000.000 too less. But since we don't mostly know what's ahead, it's pretty difficult to think how much it will be. I'm not saying it definitely won't go over 220.000.000, that's even possible, but I highly doubt it.Zoro & Sanji: These guys have done almost equally much, except for Sanji beating lots of people in train. Zoro goes for 130.000.000-90.000.000 and Sanji gets he's own; 70.000.000-40.000.000. I feel that I've missed some important things, but I think this is how it will go.
Nami, Chopper and Usopp(Sogeking): These three will have small or no bounty at all. all of them can get something like 30.000.000 or no bounty. But I'm pretty sure that Sogeking will have a one, something between 40.000.000-0, maybe 40.000.000 a bit too much, but everything is possible. That would be funny as hell.
Everyone else, Robin, Paulie, Franky etc. won't get bounty or as for Robin, she won't get an incresement.
Even if it might look like easy thing to "calculate" new bounties like that, there will be two possibilities; Oda surprises all of us or everything will go as speculated.
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I don't know, but Robin's bounty has to increase…. she is the only one who can read the porneglyphs.. and is a mugiwara pirate ô_O
um, by the way.. yeah, oda surprising us all
Sogeking 4 500.000.000 Beri O_O
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I don't know, but Robin's bounty has to increase…. she is the only one who can read the porneglyphs.. and is a mugiwara pirate ô_O
That´s actually an interesting point you bring there. She actually doesn´t have to move a finger to get a higher bounty. That what got her a bounty at the age of 8 years is that she was able to revive the Ancient Weapons. She´s still able to do that. But what makes her now more dangerous then 20 years ago is not just that she´s older, stronger and more lethal. But she´s now a crewmember of the person that invaded Enies Lobby and with this opposed the WG like no one else before.
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I think we're underestimating Usopp. SURE…we all know he's a weak, wimp but to the marines someone riding in on two giants who they're manage to supress for 50 years is pretty crazy!
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I think we're underestimating Usopp. SURE…we all know he's a weak, wimp but to the marines someone riding in on two giants who they're manage to supress for 50 years is pretty crazy!
I was thinking that, I imagine the WG will get the wrong end of the stick and label Usopp as a hypnotist or something along those lines (like Jango). But it will probably be under the Sogeking title.
i belive if that happened, later on in the series during a fighting arc Usopp will have his mask on saying…."I am the great Sogeking, I can control the great giants of Elbaf"
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"the X million bounty hypnotist?! KILL HIM AND CLAIM HIS BOUNTY!!"
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^I agree with the under sogeking title but not for an extended period of time. Htis is how is see it going down.
Everyone is leaving Enis Lobby. Luffy has invited Sogeking to join the crew (crew amazed luffy hasnt figured it out). A late arriving buster comes with a as-of-yet unitroduced vice-admiral at the helm of the lead ship. (Akoji gave the power to Spandam so clearly he is busy with out things or he would be there himself). He holds up the bounties of ALL the crew members. Sogeking is pissed that it doesnt show him so he throughs off his mask and yells at them. Chopper is surprised but Luffy makes some unexpected coment like "yah i knew that but did want to…......" type thing. They fix it to say Usopp.
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I think after what Kokoro said about Luffy's name becoming known in the entire world he's got to receive a huge increase on his bounty, and with this, the WG will send some ShichiBukai or maybe they will call him to join the government. But his bounty, I think will become more close to a ShitiBukai level.
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I think all of the Mugiwaras will get bounties, since there's enough marines to spot them all. Here's my thoughts on each of the crew members:
1. Luffy - The captain of the pirate crew that assaulted a marine base. Has proven to be very dangerous, and will show more strength. His guts and irrational reasoning to attack the base directly will make him be more feared, since he doesn't act like your average pirate. (Well..we know a long time ago, but now the marines will too.) Estimated bounty: Around 150 million beri. Probably mainly because of his guts.
2. Zoro - The infamous former Pirate Hunter being more active in terms of going against marines. This arc will basically show he will attack marines if "ordered" by his captain, and more of his strength (Very possible of defeating one of the CP9s). Estimated bounty: 80 - 100 million beri. I really don't see him breaking 100 million, but he will most likely increase from 60 million.
3. Sanji - He will show the marines that the Mugiwaras has more powerful fighters, espically with the train event. He will also be like Zoro and defeat a CP9. Estimated bounty: Around 60 million beri. I just see him taking Zoro's current bounty.
4. Robin - The marines haven't really even seen her for the last 20 years. Now that she's older, she understands more of her ability to revive Pluton. Estimated bounty: Over 100 million beri. If she and Franky both join Luffy's crew, it will probably raise a little more.
5. Franky - It will be really disappointing not for such a character to join the crew. He shares many of the similar traits as other the characters. His bounty will be based from his possession of Pluton's plans. Estimated bounty: Around 100 million beri. I think he would little less than Robin because he didn't have a past record like Robin.
6. Nami - The navigator of the Mugiwaras. She is the one that allows the pirate crews to travel in the Grand Line. She also has an unknown weapon that can summon weather to area attack the common marine grunts. Estimated Bounty: 20-30 million beri. She is one of the most important pillars that holds up the Mugiwaras, but she isn't that dangerous in terms of combat. However, they might put her a little higher as a safety net, since she's still kinda unknown.
7. Chopper - The Zoan-user of the Mugiwaras with various reasons to put a decent bounty on his horned head. First, he has excellent combat ability due to his verstaile fighting styles. Second, he is the doctor of the ship, and that means if any of the crew members fall ill, he is the one they need. Third, his Rumble ball, which the marines would like to see how this pirate defies the rules of a Zoan fruit. Estimated bounty: Around 30 million beri. He's basically a pretty dangerous pirate captain in the Blues or a decent one in the Grand Line. Similar to Nami, he might get a curve for being relatively unknown.
8. Usopp/Sogeking - Althought, we don't see much with him so far, he will do anything to make marines open their eyes. (I was thinking something like blowing up the buliding.) His sharpshooting and multiple sneaky tricks will give him a bounty. Estimate bounty: Around 15 million beri or a little more. I really see him getting a bounty a little more than Kuro's. A 2 minute side-step to Kuro seeing his bounty and go like "Wtf? This loser has a bounty close to my old one!!".
This will probably change in a month. Well my opinion on the future bounties will…
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i guess sanji will get a bounty of 90million beri..
luffy's first bounty was 30.. zoro's bounty 60 so i guess… 90 for sanji?
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I think Sanji's first bounty will be around 120M. Sanji made a statement of how his bounty will be twice Zoro's, and nothing would do more justice than if Sanji's first bounty was just that much :)
As for Luffy, I think his will be high. This arc is a major turn-over for the SH pirates. This is the arc that will establish Luffy as the threat he really is. It has even been stated that his name will be know around the world after these events have taken place. I'd be really disappointed if his bounty is anything less than 300M.
Not sure where Oda will throw Zoro's bounty, maybe 119M or 121M just so him and Sanji can keep arguing all the time :)
No idea on what will happen to Robin either, but I assume it'd be raised simply b/c she's the reason for this insane invasion of EL.
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i guess sanji will get a bounty of 90million beri..
luffy's first bounty was 30.. zoro's bounty 60 so i guess… 90 for sanji?
OR: 120. :)
30, 60 120. That works too. :P
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I can see Sanji having a bounty higher then zoro's only due to the stack of bounties is so large for the assault on EL that there have to be two deliveries in which the second one once again has zoro worth more then Sanji :D
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Yeah, I can totally see Sanji getting his Wanted poster before Zoro:
"Hah, what did I say, I'm better then you!"
"Argh!"
"Ey Zoro, check at this, you got a new one!" - Usopp
Zoro looks at his new poster, laughs at Sanji an then tell him a word of wisdom:
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I can almost guarantee that anyone who multiplies Luffy or Zoro's bounties by three or two will be absolutely wrong (which would mean almost everyone in this topic). Those values are arbitrary to set Luffy's bounty as significantly higher than Crocodile's, and there's no correlation between that and what could happen now.
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What do you mean, saying that we all are thinking they will get to high bounties?
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I have no problem with seeing Luffy's bounty significantly better than Croc's, but I think tripling Luffy's bounty would be too much as well. 200 mill doesn't seemed that extreme for what Kokoro said about them though.
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I can almost guarantee that anyone who multiplies Luffy or Zoro's bounties by three or two will be absolutely wrong (which would mean almost everyone in this topic). Those values are arbitrary to set Luffy's bounty as significantly higher than Crocodile's, and there's no correlation between that and what could happen now.
Except of course if some of us think that Luffy´s bounty will be higher in relation to Doflamingo´s which a little more then four times as high as Crocodiles. Then a Luffy bounty of between 400.000.000 - 450.000.000 would actually fall under your category.
So I´m still sticking with the theory that Luffy won´t get a new bounty until Doflamingo is defeated. I definitely a Doflamingo vs. Luffy fight before a bounty increase for 2 reasons:
1. It appears that Doflamingo´s residint somewhere near to the Marine HQ and according to Aokiji´s words, the Strawhats are getting close to it.
2. Doflamingo might be interested in Luffy himself because of three (sub)reasons: a) Luffy´s was on the agenda of the meeting at Maryjoa, b) Luffy defeated Doflamingo´s Bellamy and c) Luffy is invading Enies Lobby.
If I would be Doflamingo and would be on the lookout for worthy candidates to join my New Pirate Era, then I would surely be very interested in checking out the qualities of Luffy. He could trick the Gorousei by telling them to not move against Luffy because he wants to take him down himself. But in fact he´s following just his own interest by confronting Luffy.
Whoa, it appears that I´m having a "whack theory day" again. Well it happens once in a while. :laugh:
I have no problem with seeing Luffy's bounty significantly better than Croc's, but I think tripling Luffy's bounty would be too much as well. 200 mill doesn't seemed that extreme for what Kokoro said about them though.
I don´t think so. Remember that people like Doflamingo and Kuma have bounties of about 340.000.000 and 296.000.000 Berry on their heads. And yet such an event as it currently is happening at Enies Lobby never took place in a hundred years. No matter what Kuma and Doflamingo did to get that bounties, following Kokoro´s words, such a big thing as the Enies Lobby invasion never happened in a hundred years. So a higher bounty then theirs would actually be justified for Luffy.
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I can almost guarantee that anyone who multiplies Luffy or Zoro's bounties by three or two will be absolutely wrong (which would mean almost everyone in this topic). Those values are arbitrary to set Luffy's bounty as significantly higher than Crocodile's, and there's no correlation between that and what could happen now.
In an SBS, Oda said his bounty would have likely been at least 160 million, if they really knew about the Baroque Works plan.
Now, Luffy has his own "organization," with enough power in small numbers to take down the greatest assassins. He is taking on 10,000 men at the government base and spitting in the face of 170 countries almost directly. Crocodile was just going to take one over.
And the threat of a weapon definitely would have re-activated and raised the bounty on the head of Crocodile. Luffy is taking back possibly the greatest key to ANY weapon, and has a chance of taking in another key, Franky.
So, he has everything Croc had, only more, and he is committing an act much worse than what Croc ever did. They probably had no reason, but when you are used to the likes of Whitebeard and Roger not attacking, it is a pretty big shock when some kid from almost outta nowhere comes up and steps on your toes.
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I like your theory Ivotas, but then, will the WG wait to place a bounty on everyone on the Enies Lobby attack or will they only wait for one on Luffy? What if Luffy does something more terrible in the next arc (kicking Doflammingo's ass, destroying some other big marine or WG property), so the WG thinks the Strawhat crew deserve all the attention because they were behind the whole EL attack and made the worst damage. And maybe if some war has been unleashed by Whitebeard/Redhair/the pirates that Luffy and the gang may realease. So then maybe they deside to don't give a shit about Iceburg, Paulie and the rest?! Maybe not so highly possible, but not impossible at least.
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Well I basically just had a rough idea. If I would be able to wrap that around plausible and entertaining then I would create my own stories. XD
That said, I don´t know how it could happen precisely. It´s just an idea and we first have to see actually who will be considered a criminal after this arc and who not. For instance it´s possible that the Galley-La shipwrights and the FF will be pardoned because they will be considered as people who helped the WG by defeating WG officers that got loose. But on the other hand it could be that they all will be considered as members of the Strawhat Pirates and the only way to be safe is to go with Karsee and Oimo to Elbaf where they would be safe. Until we don´t know the fate of the minor invaders it is really hard to predict anything that comes afterwards.
Doflamingo himself however might be very interested in the entire crew of Luffy. I mean if he should be interested in Luffy, then the crew that supported him must actually all be interesting for Doflamingo to check out.
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Hmm,
Yeah, I'm totally mixed up on this one, but I could easily see all the minor characters going 50-100, since Bellamy wasn't really tough, yet 50 million. Also, there was that newbie pirate under (Shanks? Whitebeard? one of them), who claimed his bounty used to be 90 million, but it vanished when he became part of the (red/white) hair group. Consider he's only a newbie of the GL at 90 million, that does sound like good incentive to pump up the other Strawhats.
Another thing is, as for as Usopp is concerned, I've always had a pet theory about him, since Oda foreshadowed that "one of the crewmates will be leaving", I'm not 100% sure it was only the Going Merry, in this case. I still think Usopp may leave the crew for a period of time, and having met the giants is somewhat of a "plot device", if you will, because after the arc is over he can leave with Onimo and Karse to go to the land of giants (like he always wanted, remember?). What happens from there, I have no idea, but hey, he could come back with the strength of giants and whatnot, but that's all assuming this really does happen.
Btw, you heard that first here if it does happen. XD
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What do you mean Bellamy wasn´t tough? He was a big time rookie who had no problems to deal neither with Rosshio, nor with Cricket, Shojo and Masira. He just got owned by a pirate that was out of his league.
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Well, by "tough" I meant by the current standards of the SH Pirates. It wouldn't be too far from the truth to say that most, if not all of them could easily hand Bellamy his own ass on a platter.
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Ok by that standards you´re probably right. Nami and Usopp probably wouldn´t stand that much of a chance but then again you didn´t say all, you said most. So I guess it all makes sense then.
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I dunno. They'd be getting a bounty so someone could hunt them down so they wouldn't cause any more damage, like beating another Shichibukai. If Luffy was stuck at 100 after this ordeal, he'd probably still be considered a contender, and not truly worth hunting by powerful people. Then, when he does something else terrible, the Gov't. would only be able to sit back and say "well, we're dumbasses."
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What do you mean, saying that we all are thinking they will get to high bounties?
What's one hundred million times three? That's right, three hundred million! The number is arbitrary; everyone here is subconsciously using three as their multiplier because it was used before, but there's no reason to suggest that Luffy's bounty will end up in this manner. It's annoying to read people say "Oh, he's gonna get three hundred million because that'll put him near the Shichibukai" because that's bull logic.
In an SBS, Oda said his bounty would have likely been at least 160 million, if they really knew about the Baroque Works plan.
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post, but despite Croc's deadliness, he had an unnaturally low bounty, much like Arlong, apparently. I think this supports some of the theories that he was an earlier or new Shichibukai; if Croc were willing to risk his status with the World Government, it would only make sense if he were an older member (who knew loopholes) or a newer member (who didn't understand the value of his position).
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I'm saying there's nothing arbitrary about some of these amounts.
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I'm saying there's nothing arbitrary about some of these amounts.
It's not the amounts, just the multiplier. Oda multiplied Luffy's bounty by three, then added ten million, to give Luffy a triple digit bounty. It would be necessary for Luffy to have a considerably higher bounty than Croc, but the multiplier was arbitrary.