Someone on Narutofan Forums posted this:
http://i54.tinypic.com/33lm8b6.jpgThose two guys with hat are Law's crewmates
Uncanny resemblance! Those sharp eyed fellows at Narutofan must be applauded.
Someone on Narutofan Forums posted this:
http://i54.tinypic.com/33lm8b6.jpgThose two guys with hat are Law's crewmates
Uncanny resemblance! Those sharp eyed fellows at Narutofan must be applauded.
No, those eyes are obviously from this guy.
! http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/_cb20090222023156/gurennlagann/images/1/1c/G-L-_Lord_Genome.jpg
Jokes aside, the blood brother has really some crazy eyes.
NOOOOO, stop the eye-talk, it's enough already. PLEASE!! :ninja:
I don't see what's wrong with it. The Pirate King is having he's favorite drink.
and the other two are Law's crewmate, and last time we saw them they were still
in the island!!
Pretty sure last time we saw them was when they were on Amazon Lilly, or they might've been shown when Law told them to wait before going to the New World.
If you're going to use those character designs though, one has a sword and was never shown with one before.
Its still stupid, though.
Who cares? Coribou has a lizard on his head. :ninja:
No, I did not just see that now.
I just noticed it too so don't feel bad lol
I just noticed it too so don't feel bad lol
Same here, I feel a little disgusted by those two guys :sick:
@Sea:
You can't distinguish the difference in importance between a plot device that help the story continue and a character that change the direction of the story.
Umm, so what a character who justifies that plot device within the story does not actually change the story at all?
What is your logic?
SUGOI DESU NE! 楽しみ! 楽しみ ! haha. I had a few problems with interpreting the translations though. Overall, IT WAS GREAT!
Of course!! …And Roger came back from the dead
Incoming Fake Roger and Fake everyone. The New World must be too a fake ocean!
Incoming Fake Roger and Fake everyone. The New World must be too a fake ocean!
You need a coated ship to get there because its actually just made of painted cardboard. The coating keeps your ship from tipping over.
Luffy is obviously cosplaying Roger with his moustache
Ahh to see that the old relationships between the SH crew have mainly stayed the same brings a tear to my eye. The only thing that I desire to see now is Nami beating up on Luffy, then all shall be complete in the world of OP. Oh and can't wait to see Luffy's reaction to a grown Chopper and Franky. Much hilarity shall ensue :happy:
Umm, so what a character who justifies that plot device within the story does not actually change the story at all?
What is your logic?
Stop it, ur name reflect ur nature :getlost: ur noisy… :getlost:
Is it Caribou or Karibou? On one page it's Caribou, a few pages later it's Karibou…
I love the accuracy of Mangastream translations.
I Like how this chapter is showing just how infamous Luffy has become. It's like his already a legend even though he hasn't become Pirate King yet.
Someone on Narutofan Forums posted this:
Those two guys with hat are Law's crewmates
I wouldn't put it past Oda, having them there. He did it with Mr. 3 in Alabasta so why not again? And they're the only Supernovae that we don't know if they went off to the New World.
If it is them, I wonder what's first, it being revealed in a chapter or in the SBS?
P-a-n-d-a-m-a-n Tsuyoi !!!
P-a-n-d-a-m-a-n Sugoooii ~!!!
Where exactly is pandaman located? I looked through the chapter more than 3 times.
Umm, so what a character who justifies that plot device within the story does not actually change the story at all?
What is your logic?
Chimney or Margaret saving Luffy was purely gag.
Rayleigh is like the Skull Knight in Berserk. He is a walking dues ex machina (at its finest) that appears at the right time just to help the story advance, help the main protagonists overcome some difficulty in the plot. That was his sole role in the manga.
An important character is a character that involves in the main conflict of the story (arc) as a core element. Like Whitebeard and Ace, the center of one of the biggest conflicts this series presents. As for Whitebeard, all conflicts through out the rest of the series are affected by him.
@Mex:
Stop it, ur name reflect ur nature :getlost: ur noisy… :getlost:
African Marabuntas swarm you and readily penetrate your skin to devour your insides. You can feel one inside your lung…
I usually try to read every page, but lately that has taken me days, since it’s been rather hectic. So today I’m gonna post my thoughts about the chapter prior to reading everyone else’s and I apologize on advance if all of this is old news and an unprecedented snoozefest to read. (Nothing earth shattering here anyway, I’m sure):
Obviously Luffy being with the fakehats will make the Gov’t assume that they really were genuinely looking to recruit new members, and that they were taking some really mean characters. This raises the level of threat, in the eyes of said WG, of the crew as a whole, I’d think, and may be the lead-in for new, higher bounties. I wonder what his allies will think of the news once it breaks—will they loose faith in him and his crew a little. I have little doubt this will affect Smoker, whose doubts about the gov’t he serves were exacerbated by his interactions with Luffy and his crew in Alabasta. Perhaps, between this (if indeed Luffy’s picture ends up in the paper at that scene, and not just Fluffy’s) , and the incident at the war may make him feel all the more driven and righteous in his pursuit on the SHs and Luffy.
On a larger scale, I am very pleased with the circle Oda has made with the SHs returning to the place of their defeat, and facing again some of those opponents that were instrumental in that defeat. I cannot help but think the circle will not be complete without a defeat by the SHs of Sentoumaru and the PXs he’s bringing, and I would go so far as to say this would be part of the reason for them being there, as opposed to Kizaru, story wise.
Luffy is the only one surrounded by the fakehats and the marines—Luffy could potentially be in some trouble; which leads me to another part of the circular nature of the story that I see here. I believe there is the potential for the crew to finally, in some way that will be revealed next chapter, get a chance to show how they are now supporting and protecting Luffy the way he has always done for them, as per all of their vows just prior to the TS. Somehow the rest of the crew will be instrumental in extricating Luffy from the mess he is in, in such a way that they are able to now only show-case their new powerups, but their renewed/new commitment to Luffy.
Read the above. Rayleigh will be the reason for the entire rest of the Story being possible.
So is tashigi for not catching the crew in alabasta, also Kororo for the support that only she could have given in eines loby, and Kuma for sparing them and doing what was needed to make them stronger, and yet, enabling them isn't the same as driving the plot.
By your logic Kuma is more important than Raileigh. And every other character.
African Marabuntas swarm you and readily penetrate your skin to devour your insides. You can feel one inside your lung…
No… :getlost:
Mr Pandaman informations:
! last immage top right…http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/55133868/6
…:getlost:...
African Marabuntas swarm you and readily penetrate your skin to devour your insides. You can feel one inside your lung…
Whats a Marabunta?
So is tashigi for not catching the crew in alabasta, also Kororo for the support that only she could have given in eines loby, and Kuma for sparing them and doing what was needed to make them stronger, and yet, enabling them isn't the same as driving the plot.
By your logic Kuma is more important than Raileigh. And every other character.
I'd say by his Logic, Shanks is the most important character.
I almost couldn't believe someone actually thought Chimney was more important to the plot than WB.
So is tashigi for not catching the crew in alabasta, also Kororo for the support that only she could have given in eines loby, and Kuma for sparing them and doing what was needed to make them stronger, and yet, enabling them isn't the same as driving the plot.
By your logic Kuma is more important than Raileigh. And every other character.
and the list goes on. so actually Buggy is more important to the story than Ray.
@Sea:
I almost couldn't believe someone actually think Chimney is more important to the plot than WB.
I want so much to sig this.
@Mex:
No… :getlost:
Mr Pandaman informations:! last immage top right…http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/55133868/6
…:getlost:...
Top right of the last image is a text bubble.
@Sea:
I almost couldn't believe someone actually think Chimney is more important to the plot than WB.
Just goes to show anything is possible even someone believing that Chimney is more important to the story than WB
wow thanks for the chap!! i'll be late for school but whatever..
Top right of the last image is a text bubble.
Under that text bubble thris Mr pandaman… :getlost: ... didn't noticed yet?
I have to say this, but without Buggy there would not have been:
-Nami.
-Grand Line mab.
-RESCUING luffy from ID.
and the list goes on. so actually Buggy is more important to the story than Ray.
Without Ray maybe Roger wouldn't be the Pirate King and then… who cares?
@Sea:
Chimney or Margaret saving Luffy was purely gag.
Rayleigh is like the Skull Knight in Berserk. He is a walking dues ex machina (at its finest) that appears at the right time just to help the story advance. That was his sole role in the plot.
An important character is a character that involve in the main conflict of the story (arc) as a core element.
Ok, well now I understand where our point of view differs. You say that Ace and WB were central to the past Arc, and thus that story Arc in particular revolved around them. And I agree with that.
But I'm not talking about the Skull Knight saving Guts during the sacrifice. Rayleigh didn't actually save anyone. His role wasn't even mainly that one. If I had to attribute that role to a character it's definately Kuma.
Rayleigh's role was important in a different way. Not in saving anyone, but in guiding the paths of the main characters and making them change and be able to attain their dreams.
His character provided the wisdom and insight, as well as action that was determinant in the end of the last arc. He came up with the message and helped to carry it out. Without him, no timeskip. Without him, Luffy would have rushed back to Shabondy just like everyone else would have and the story would not be the one it is today.
I think it's a matter of scope really. Rayleigh's actions to me seem just as important to the Story as the ones from any other character on which an Arc focuses, in this case WB and Ace. I consider change within the Strawhat's just as central to the story as the changes brought about in the world itself. Regardless of how much more WB was important to the story of the last Arc, Rayleigh's influence and his role in allowing for the plot device that will shape the story just as much as WB's death did makes him important.
WB changed the setting, and put those changes in motion. Rayleigh changed the time and the main characters. Because I consider this the story about the Strawhats, I view these two changes as equal in importance.
So is tashigi for not catching the crew in alabasta, also Kororo for the support that only she could have given in eines loby, and Kuma for sparing them and doing what was needed to make them stronger, and yet, enabling them isn't the same as driving the plot.
By your logic Kuma is more important than Raileigh. And every other character.
I just said that the important part is not the saving. In fact I said it several times.
Without Ray maybe Roger wouldn't be the Pirate King and then… who cares?
Stop it, without Oda we couldn't read Op so Oda is the most important, or his mother, or god or what else… who care...??? :getlost: stop this stupid spam... :getlost:
I just said that the important part is not the saving. In fact I said it several times.
And Kuma was the one who put them where they could train and grow.
Without Ray maybe Roger wouldn't be the Pirate King and then… who cares?
Without that one gay couple who was making out in the park the one piece wouldn't exist. How can you say that one character is more important than the other based on that, everybody knows the butterfly effect.
PANDAMAN:
!
Somehow I never though about how Chopper still wasn't full grown.
Would Luffy be overpowered if he took down all those pirates on his own? Or at least used his Haki to knock out all the weaker ones.
Is pandman in the character tournaments?
Is pandman in the character tournaments?
I remember him here http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=28203
@Mex:
Under that text bubble thris Mr pandaman… :getlost: ... didn't noticed yet?
That's his bag. Just don't see it.
@Cheese:
Somehow I never though about how Chopper still wasn't full grown.
Would Luffy be overpowered if he took down all those pirates on his own? Or at least used his Haki to knock out all the weaker ones.
I don't think it would be overpowered if his CoC haki knocked them all out. These new generation pirates seem to be pretty weak hearted.
Kid, Luffy, Law,Drake, etc would have never thrown away their leadership to follow some big name pirate. (at least I don't think.)
And Kuma was the one who put them where they could train and grow.
Yeah but you see? You're not talking about the saving part because that's not what is important. It's Sea's sillyness and his inability to take me seriously that brought that on.
Kuma is also important, or rather Dragon. I say that in my very first post on the subject, way back before I was not even trying to be serious. But that alone wouldn't have made the least difference without Rayleigh's message.
I'm still mourning the loss of Robins old bangs D:
I just noticed it too so don't feel bad lol
Actually, I noticed it while still browsing in the Spoiler Thread, but I wasn't sure if it was a lizard. Now, it's very clear.
Is it Caribou or Karibou? On one page it's Caribou, a few pages later it's Karibou…
I love the accuracy of Mangastream translations.
Thank Molokidan for that. Kind of funny when my brother complained about the accuracy, and his reply just tries brushing it off – "I'm just trying to keep it as close to the original Japanese." Yeah, then stay consistent, you dolt.
That's his bag. Just don't see it.
Oh, crap! How could I not notice his bag? What does he have in there? Bamboo? He didn't have Hancock around to pack for him… So, did Oda give him supplies to prepare him for the New World? That's great.
Ok, well now I understand where our point of view differs. You say that Ace and WB were central to the past Arc, and thus that story Arc in particular revolved around them. And I agree with that.
But I'm not talking about the Skull Knight saving Guts during the sacrifice. Rayleigh didn't actually save anyone. His role wasn't even mainly that one. If I had to attribute that role to a character it's definately Kuma.
Rayleigh's role was important in a different way. Not in saving anyone, but in guiding the paths of the main characters and making them change and be able to attain their dreams.
His character provided the wisdom and insight, as well as action that was determinant in the end of the last arc. He came up with the message and helped to carry it out. Without him, no timeskip. Without him, Luffy would have rushed back to Shabondy just like everyone else would have and the story would not be the one it is today.
I think it's a matter of scope really. Rayleigh's actions to me seem just as important to the Story as the ones from any other character on which an Arc focuses, in this case WB and Ace. I consider change within the Strawhat's just as central to the story as the changes brought about in the world itself. Regardless of how much more WB was important to the story of the last Arc, Rayleigh's influence and his role in allowing for the plot device that will shape the story just as much as WB's death did makes him important.
WB changed the setting, and put those changes in motion. Rayleigh changed the time and the main characters. Because I consider this the story about the Strawhats, I view these two changes as equal in importance.
That is so wrong.
His character provided the wisdom and insight, as well as action that was determinant in the end of the last arc. He came up with the message and helped to carry it out. Without him, no timeskip. Without him, Luffy would have rushed back to Shabondy just like everyone else would have and the story would not be the one it is today.
Without the little girl who asked "Which one is bigger", the giants wouldn't have fought and we wouldn't have had Little Garden Arc like it was. The crew might have been eaten by the giant fish. The two giants in Enies Lobby wouldn't be there and the Gallela carpenters would have been all dead.
So important of a character, huh?
Nope, she is just there as a reason for the events to happen.
Rayleigh is there just to be a reason the crew can go into New World (Oda could have choose a random ship-coater to do it), just a reason for Luffy to give a message (Jinbei could be chosen to be the one to come up with that).
The plot doesn't revolve around him at all.
What Rayleigh dis were important plot devices, sure, but a plot device is a plot device.
WB and Ace were what the last arc was about. Were what the story at that time was about. And still have great effect later in the story. They were center of one of the biggest conflicts. They define the story (or, a large part of the series).
@Sea:
He is not good enough of a poster for me to care about his dissing anyway.
You still argueing with him
Once in the base drag, ehh.
@I:
Obviously Luffy being with the fakehats will make the Gov’t assume that they really were genuinely looking to recruit new members, and that they were taking some really mean characters. This raises the level of threat, in the eyes of said WG, of the crew as a whole, I’d think, and may be the lead-in for new, higher bounties. I wonder what his allies will think of the news once it breaks—will they loose faith in him and his crew a little. I have little doubt this will affect Smoker, whose doubts about the gov’t he serves were exacerbated by his interactions with Luffy and his crew in Alabasta. Perhaps, between this (if indeed Luffy’s picture ends up in the paper at that scene, and not just Fluffy’s) , and the incident at the war may make him feel all the more driven and righteous in his pursuit on the SHs and Luffy.
I dont see here a bounty raise at all. I mean after all those actions in the past his bounty raised only to 400mille..so it won
t increase right now just because he gathers some blood thirsty rookies around him.And also the rest of the crew isnt effected by that, because why would their bounty increase when their capt
n recruits new guys.
Also i doubt that Smoker or any allies of Luffy and his crew will fall for those fake-actions.
He knows Luffy well enough and is sure aware of the fact that many guys run around which try to impersonate famous guys.
And his other allies have to much trust in him(just look at Vivi getting the news of Luffy pairing up with Croc)..they will be glad that he`s back after two years without any informations.
On a larger scale, I am very pleased with the circle Oda has made with the SHs returning to the place of their defeat, and facing again some of those opponents that were instrumental in that defeat. I cannot help but think the circle will not be complete without a defeat by the SHs of Sentoumaru and the PXs he’s bringing, and I would go so far as to say this would be part of the reason for them being there, as opposed to Kizaru, story wise.
Yeah starting again with the same actions which once defeated the crew is a rly well-closed circle(even without Kizaru, but for that they also dont need a second time Rayleigh here). But i think Sentamarou won
t be defeated here..he will have later his role on the side of Vegapunk.
In my eyes he will more likely see how much stronger Luffy is now and will have later in the story his final fight against Luffy.
I believe there is the potential for the crew to finally, in some way that will be revealed next chapter, get a chance to show how they are now supporting and protecting Luffy the way he has always done for them, as per all of their vows just prior to the TS.
I would like to see here that they build a circle around Luffy in the midst of the fight against maybe the PX(cause the rookies should be no prob for Luffy) showing how they each are now strong enough to protect\fight for their captn. Would give a cool picture,where Luffy sees all his nakama around him and each ready to show their new power, ready to face everything for their capt
n.
(okay to much fanfic here….)
Thanks, I was looking in the last picture, not the second to last.