Okay people, listen up. Do any of you know ANYBODY whose first exposure to One Piece was the english dubbed version? ANYONE who actually LIKES IT???
Well, that's me. I watch the dub, i love the dub, i record the dub, i have never missed an episode of the dub. So let me ask you, IS THAT WRONG?????
After all, I do have all of the mangas, and after every episode i see, i go online to find anything that has been edited, so the story will be corrected in my mind. I AM A DEVOTED ONE PIECE FAN!!!!!!! AND STILL A PRODUCT OF THE DUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT THAT BAD YA KNOW, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO QUIT TRYING TO GET IT KICKED OFF THE AIR!!!!!!! THINK OF THE PEOPLE WHO ONLY HAVE THE DUB TO WATCH AND THEY LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So fine, yell at me. Make angry replies to this thread. call me a retard. Throw things at your computer screen in an explosive manner. Just PLEASE tell me, is there anything wrong with someone like me– a "Product of the Dub?"
Dubbed One Piece–Not So Bad?!?!?!
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If you like the dub then fine. Your opinion. I mean I like the 4Kids dub of Shaman King. It's not perfect but it's not terrible.
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You're entitled to your own opinion, I actually thought it was okay until they got to the Arlong arc and started cutting episodes. The latest episode of the dub is 53 which would be where episode 86 is in the original version so they've cut out 33 episodes worth. Thats alot so its become much worse recently.
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I see nothing wrong with you likeing the dub. =3
You are entitled to watch whatever you want to watch, and like it, regardless about what you hear people in this forum say.
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It's okay if you like the dub. We don't care. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, whether they agree or disagree.
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I agree, the Shaman King dub was half decent because a)the voices were decent, b) there were very few blood edits needed, and c) most of the name changes were both tollerible and perferrable. Not counting Hou-Zeke, of corse.
The One Piece is borderline unbareable because a) they need so many blood and drug & alcohol edits it isn't even funny, b) the only good voices are minor characters that aren't shown all that much, c) there comes a time in a man's life when they have to ask…WHAT KIND OF SICK BASTARD TURNS A WHALE INTO AN ICEBURG?!?! And Little Garden, too! the merging and skipping has unleashed HELL uppon all Anime fans. Poor Ussop was made into such a pansy! Oda would be be....bleh, I don't know the word for his shocked expression. Damn you, Toei. Aproving of this dub is a crime against Oda.
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OK, but please don't hit us… =(
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You can like the dub.. but that doesnt mean we wont still fight to try and get it off the air.
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and yes the Shaman King dub was fantastic.
oh yah and…....
WHAT'S IT TO YOU, SERENECRIMSON?!?!?!?!?! plz don't get it kicked off the air, for the love of sweet marshmallows and pastries... -
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and yes the Shaman King dub was fantastic.
oh yah and…....
WHAT'S IT TO YOU, SERENECRIMSON?!?!?!?!?! plz don't get it kicked off the air, for the love of sweet marshmallows and pastries...They have every right to do what they want to do.
I wouldn't fret over it much though, I doubt fans could get it off the air, because 4kids doesn't give a damn about what we think, anyways. They arn't going to listen to a forum of dub-flamers. =(
There is a hate group for everything you can think of on TV, just because a small group of people doesn't like it, doesn't mean it is going to get kicked off. It may seem from the veiw of this forum most of us are dub haters, but there are a ton who like the dub and keep it to themselves. Not to mention the show was ment to appease kids, and as long as the younger generation likes the dub, there is no stopping 4kids from doing it how they want.
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So you like the dub. You're entitled to your opinion. We are entitled to ours, of course. Do you at least understand why some people hate the dub?
And by the way, a lot of people here were in fact introduced to One Piece through the dub first, and they still don't like it. ;) Like me, for instance. It was OK until they started cutting episodes. OK, that's not entirely true. It was ok until they introduced dub Usopp, but that's just me.But really, do we have to have a topic exactly like this every month or so? There is a 4Kids dub thread, you know.
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You can like the dub. That's fine, I don't care.
Just so you know, it's one of the biggest anime blunders in recent years, so even if One Piece fans don't do crap about it it'll probably still get pulled within a year or so.
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Well, you Can Have Your Opinion. In Fact, I Think It's Great That You Like The Dub. I Really Wish I Liked The Dub, I could Just Watch It On TV And Be Happy, And not Have to Do All This Stuff Like Saveonepiece.com, Making My Own Fandub, Ect Ect. The Dub Is Unbearable To me. Not Because Of The Edits. No, It's Mainly The voices That Ruin It For Me.
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Well, that's me. I watch the dub, i love the dub, i record the dub, i have never missed an episode of the dub. So let me ask you, IS THAT WRONG?????
After all, I do have all of the mangas, and after every episode i see, i go online to find anything that has been edited, so the story will be corrected in my mind.Son it aint the story….
I AM A DEVOTED ONE PIECE FAN!!!!!!! AND STILL A PRODUCT OF THE DUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT THAT BAD YA KNOW, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO QUIT TRYING TO GET IT KICKED OFF THE AIR!!!!!!! THINK OF THE PEOPLE WHO ONLY HAVE THE DUB TO WATCH AND THEY LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And is it not in our right to wish it dead? Besides if your on this forum you have more than enough in means to access One Piece whether the dub dies are not.
And the fact of the matter is…...if the dub is failing (and it is) that probably MEANS something, y'know?So fine, yell at me. Make angry replies to this thread. call me a retard. Throw things at your computer screen in an explosive manner. Just PLEASE tell me, is there anything wrong with someone like me– a "Product of the Dub?"
I wouldn't have gotten into One Piece without the DBZ dub. That dosen't make the dub of DBZ good though. I don't get this logic…
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Okay people, listen up. Do any of you know ANYBODY whose first exposure to One Piece was the english dubbed version? ANYONE who actually LIKES IT???
Well, that's me. I watch the dub, i love the dub, i record the dub, i have never missed an episode of the dub. So let me ask you, IS THAT WRONG?????
After all, I do have all of the mangas, and after every episode i see, i go online to find anything that has been edited, so the story will be corrected in my mind. I AM A DEVOTED ONE PIECE FAN!!!!!!! AND STILL A PRODUCT OF THE DUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT THAT BAD YA KNOW, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO QUIT TRYING TO GET IT KICKED OFF THE AIR!!!!!!! THINK OF THE PEOPLE WHO ONLY HAVE THE DUB TO WATCH AND THEY LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So fine, yell at me. Make angry replies to this thread. call me a retard. Throw things at your computer screen in an explosive manner. Just PLEASE tell me, is there anything wrong with someone like me– a "Product of the Dub?"You're scary. ;___;
Whatever, I don't care if you like it or not. You should expose yourself to some subs though. :)
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Maybe his/her computer can't handle the massive size of a sub? 225 MB is a LOT.
And I liked the dub too. =) Without the dub, I'd never have even known about One Piece. I'm one of the few that like the dub, though. I bet if the people of this forum never saw the original and only the dub, most would hate it.
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I found somebody else finally!!!! I like the Original and all but the dub gave me everything i know. And I am proud to stand up and say I like Sanjis dub voice!!!! The only thing that made me mad was that they cut out Little Garden I wanted to see that…=(
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I found somebody else finally!!!! I like the Original and all but the dub gave me everything i know. And I am proud to stand up and say I like Sanjis dub voice!!!! The only thing that made me mad was that they cut out Little Garden I wanted to see that…=(
OMG you like Sanji's dub voice?!?! I thought I was the only one!!!!!:laugh: Cuz anyone who knows anything about American cartoons(they're just trying to make it seem like an American show) should know that a voice like that is meant to be sexy!
Why, you say?
Reason 1: It's deep and slow and meant to be–er---for loss of a better word, erotic.
Reason 2: Sanji is supposed to be a cool-as-ice ladie's man, therefore, the voice fits him perfectly.
Though the New York accent isn't really needed, I think it comes off great.
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Well as long as nobody's saying "The Dub rox & the original sux" I could care less.
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right!!! the dub doesn't exactly score a ten and the sub definitely doesn't suck, but they are both really good!!!!! and i love your avatar.
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I bet if the people of this forum never saw the original and only the dub, most wouldn't hate it.
Nope.
The fact stands, the MAIN reasons the dub sucks are not that it's a poor representation of the original.
But rather its just a bad thing to whatch…
All it comes off as is a bunch of bloodless unbrutal fighting with annoying screechy voices and repetitive synethisizer music. Also it includes poisenous ingredients like..
-artficial rap
-unfunny puns
-Dull simple minded script
-no style or cool factor to it (the Tarantino/Berserk edge is gone)These do not quality make!
I guarentee that if I never knew One Piece before watching the dub, I would still hate it. It comes off as childish, assanine, and boring. I would have never given it a chance.
I have another thought, methinks those who are more manga oriented have more hate for the dub....than the anime oriented.
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I have to agree with Zephos, here, the 4Kids dub personifies perfectly why I hated anime for most of my life. The changes they make and the actors they employ suck any vestige of emotional engagement I might have in it. If I had never seen the original, I wouldn't give the show a second glance the same way I do with Yu Gi Oh, Digimon, Pokemon, and the countless other anime shows I really don't care about.
I don't have anything against the people who do like the dub, more power to you, as long as you aren't annoying about it and insult my opinion.
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It comes off as childish, assanine, and boring.
You be quiet.:glare: >=(
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I have to agree with Zephos, here.
fine, be that way. but i have a question for you…....
have you ever fallen asleep watching the dub? -
Considering it airs shortly after we wake up, that would be nearly impossible. Although I would like to fall asleep while watching the dub. :P
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fine, be that way. but i have a question for you…....
have you ever fallen asleep watching the dub?Right, god forbid I have my own opinion. :glare:
First off, if you have something to say to more than one person, don't double-post, put it in the same post.
Secondly, no, I've never fallen asleep watching the dub because I haven't been able to make it through one episode without changing the channel or just turning the TV off entirely.
Thirdly, you're starting to tread the "irritating" line.
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Like somebody else mentioned, I thought the dub was borderline decent until about the Arlong arc, and then they went a little crazy.
The thing that bothers me the MOST about the dub is that dubs like that give ALL dubs a bad name. All it does is unleash a new generation of dub-haters onto the world the way other bad dubs like Sailor Moon and Card Captors did. People see TV versions like that, realize what a DIFFERENCE there is between that one and the original, and suddenly they're all over dub-bashing. It gets old and annoying and tends to make people very close-minded. If I hear/see one more person say "American voice actors SUCK!" Imma have to go kung fu on their ass.
Right, so. Anyway. Complaints from people about edits isn't going to get them to take it off the air; as long as people watch it, they'll keep airing it. So don't worry about that happening.
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fine, be that way. but i have a question for you…....
have you ever fallen asleep watching the dub?I have..
but then Sanji's awful dub voice woke me up and forced me to change the channel. -
It comes off as childish, assanine, and boring.
You be quiet.:glare: >=(
Double standards on a thread making an outcry for rights??
Your defeating yourself via hipocracy.
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Right, so. Anyway. Complaints from people about edits isn't going to get them to take it off the air; as long as people watch it, they'll keep airing it. So don't worry about that happening.
And people aren't watching it.
On 4kids Tv it has low ratings (and its on at 11:30 aka, the hospice of tv), and I believe its ratings are on the drop for CN (partially thanks to Naruto eliminating its 2nd episode airing).
Remember, if it was a good dub it would be seeing simialer ratings as the one in Japan. Toei probably isn't thrilled with Al Kahn's handeling of its gigantic commercial piece. -
Right, god forbid I have my own opinion. :glare:
First off, if you have something to say to more than one person, don't double-post, put it in the same post.
Secondly, no, I've never fallen asleep watching the dub because I haven't been able to make it through one episode without changing the channel or just turning the TV off entirely.
Thirdly, you're starting to tread the "irritating" line.
That's not what i meant, you can of course have your own opinion, that's why I said "be that way." i only wanted to know if you had fallen asleep during the dub. And SereneCrimson…....okay, i have to say, although i do like Sanji's dub voice, that was really funny.:laugh:
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It's fine if you like the dub, as others have said everyone is entitled to my own opinion.
The only thing that bothers me is when people assume what is on 4kids is what I am a fan of, because it has to be the absolute worst transition from the Japanese version to the English version of a series that I have ever seen. Therefore, I just consider it to be a completely different series from the series that I watch.
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Allright Zephos, I'll stop bugging you, 'kay?
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That's not what i meant, you can of course have your own opinion, that's why I said "be that way." i only wanted to know if you had fallen asleep during the dub. And SereneCrimson…....okay, i have to say, although i do like Sanji's dub voice, that was really funny.:laugh:
Yhea, but I have to be quiet.
The dub is too loud to make me fall asleep. Its designed to grab attention anyway.
Its the reason for bad things like…
-cutting portions and screens of it. Dramatic pauses are done away with
-Endless BGM
-No moments of dialouge silence....adding dialouge to characters who aren't supposed to talk
-Cutting plot points.... Nojiko and Genzo deciding to go save Luffy was cut too show more action. They also cut the Arlong arc epilouge for the same reason -
And people aren't watching it.
On 4kids Tv it has low ratings (and its on at 11:30 aka, the hospice of tv), and I believe its ratings are on the drop for CN (partially thanks to Naruto eliminating its 2nd episode airing).I had no idea what the ratings were, but thanks for clarifying. Anyway, my point was that fans going "OMG 4KIDS UR TEH SUK TAKE ONE PIECE OFF TEH AIR!!!1" wouldn't be enough to do it in this or any lifetime.
@Zephos:Remember, if it was a good dub it would be seeing simialer ratings as the one in Japan.
That's not necessarily true by a long shot. In fact, I'm almost certain it isn't. One Piece is a huge ratings draw in Japan (it's sad that I know how it rates there better than here); even if it was a good dub, it's still a MUCH SMALLER market that would be interested here than there.
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That's not necessarily true by a long shot. In fact, I'm almost certain it isn't. One Piece is a huge ratings draw in Japan (it's sad that I know how it rates there better than here); even if it was a good dub, it's still a MUCH SMALLER market that would be interested here than there.
But as far as the Anime market….
One Piece is still piddle in the success department.
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but one thing i think we can all agree on wether in the dub or the sub,
CHOPPER=CUTENESS -
I must admit, I actually hated the idea when I first saw the previews for the dub (I voted for them to show "Mew Mew Power"/Tokyo Mew Mew; that was a mistake…), and I even thought the whole "stretching" thing was just another anime exaggerration.
Little did I know...
It wasn't till around the Arlong Arc that I learned how it really was and, after seeing all the edits, decided I had to see the subs. I still haven't but it doesn't stop from hating the dub which, in turn, doesn't keep me from watching it either as it's all I currently have.
I must also say, I had gotten use to these kinds of voices and didn't mind them that much till it reached Usopp. Ugh… the worst thing about it is that it makes you hate him, which is sad, as he eventually becomes a great character. I also originally thought Sanji's voice fit him at the time… then it started getting annoying (I can't read scans now without hearing that voice XO ).
They still could have done an edited dub without it being this bad.
Acceptable edits:
-removing (some) blood
-removing language
-cutting some filler arcs (like the Buggy one); many probably will get at me for this, but if they're trying to hurry things, I don't find that so bad; besides, they can show them again later as a special or whateverUnacceptable:
-pointless edits (far too numerous to list)
-stupid, stupid line changes; I knew something was wrong when Sanji and Orobi (that right?) began talking smack and using terrible puns
-cutting important arcs and episodes and coming up with retarded make-ups for it that a five year-old wouldn't fall for ("I just remembered, Igaram gave me an extra Eternal Post!")
-changing music; they have all these pre-set BGMs and they don't use them?!Still, if you like dub, that's you. I don't particularly care for it, but I still watch it (for now).
Oh yes. I honestly believe they got some new department to do this as it has never been this bad on 4Kids. Seriously. I loved the Shaman King one, even after learning alot of things had been changed from it (I actually liked the name "Zeke").
but one thing i think we can all agree on wether in the dub or the sub, CHOPPER=CUTENESS
True. :D
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So you like the dub? Big whoop. We're not going to burn you at the stake or something. I don't like it because some of the edits and cuts are re-god damn-diculous, like a whale turning into an iceberg, Little Garden being skipped, Usopp turned into a doofus with no character depth, and worse of all, the lame ass puns.
However, I do find you guilty of abusing the caps lock key, the question mark key, and the exclamation point key. The sentence is a brutal bitchslap, effective immediatly. brutally bitchslaps you
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@Zio:
So you like the dub? Big whoop. We're not going to burn you at the stake or something. I don't like it because some of the edits and cuts are re-god damn-diculous, like a whale turning into an iceberg, Little Garden being skipped, Usopp turned into a doofus with no character depth, and worse of all, the lame ass puns.
However, I do find you guilty of abusing the caps lock key, the question mark key, and the exclamation point key. The sentence is a brutal bitchslap, effective immediatly. brutally bitchslaps you
you missed me.
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Zio just keeps racking up brownie points with me today.
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But can he get the whole cake?
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But can he get the whole cake?
He can get the whole cake, a few brownies AND an entire tray of cookies! =D
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Surely you jest. . . . . . . . .2 0
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Originally Posted by Zephos
But can he get the whole cakeHe can get the whole cake, a few brownies AND an entire tray of cookies! =D
….Is it just me, or does that sound extremely dirty?
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Dear Sanjiplushie,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/evilzio/Other%20things/Ignore.jpg
CONGRATULATIONS! YOU HAVE JUST BEEN IGNORED!
Even though I became aware of your existance an hour ago, your posting techniques and attitude towards people who use that rare thing some humans have called "logic" and voicing these strange things called "opinions" has given me enough evidence that I should ignore you. Good for you!
Regards,
Zio(With apologies to Battle Franky for taking his idea about ignoring people.)
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…What can I say? He just keeps em coming.
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if I did that I'd get a warning.
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DUB PIECE IS SERIOUS BUSINESS
For reals.
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ok no offense but i'm really starting to hate the dub. i mean the va's can;t act for shit (cept nami.zoro, and maybe chopper and robin). They make pointless edits coughlabooncough. and the backround music is crap. this show would have a lot lot more impact if they kept the bgm in. I mean i didn't even feel any sadness during the arlong arc i just passed it off as another arc, and people who watch the dub (and don't know about the subs or read the manga) pass it off as another arc too. oh and about sanji's voice… it doesn't fit him at all/ He puts no emtion into his love sceencs (the bgm makes it worse),his attacks i can't even understand. gah! he'll look so lame during alabasta as mr.prince.
also another thing i truly think all the voice actors at 4kids entertainment can act (cept moo) but kahn doesn't think that fits the character so it turns into crap.I didnt mind the dub until baratie. that was the turning point for me