Baka Yarou! That was for you, Rammy.
Yes, because a persons motivation in this situation could only be personal grudges.
Do you guys live in some fantasy land, where people are always good and moral, and every disaster is preventable and will be preventable? If so, take me with you. I was evidently missing on utopia this entire time.
Your motivations seem to be a little grudgy. You argue your hardest against people who have already bothered you in the past. Just making an observation, here.
Do you want me to point several practical reasons why that would not work? Again? For like, a sixth time?
It really makes no sense to think that the marines didn't have at their disposal the means to sift through the possibly 100 or so people on that ship. They really could have easily found Robin on that boat had she been there. It was ridiculous of Jerkainu to jump to the conclusion of "Let's kill all the little fuckers", when their only real concern was that any knowledge the Oharan's had dug up not get disseminated to the public.
I do however make an excellent devil's advocate.
An excellent one would be inspiring meaningful and thoughtful debate. But this stuff…
… Okay, I apologise in advance for the erestics.
Robin was willing to plunge entire world into chaos by giving herself up to the WG if it meant Straw Hats would be let go. She was aware that they will use the weapons, and she was aware of the consequences.
Why are you judging Sakazuki, but not her?
When did I say that I wasn't judging Robin?
The chinaman Robin is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line YOU DO NOT-
Also, Dude, chinaman Sakazuki is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American Jerkainu, please.
Seriously, though. Robin's actions should be judged separately from whatever actions a marine vice admiral decides to make because of her existence. At no point have I even begun to talk about how I feel about Robin. Let's just say that I think she was behaving like an immature, unloved little girl for most of her life. She made a lot of bad choices, but she had no one to guide her.
Jerkazuki, on the other hand, is a grown man (for the entire story, including flashbacks) and is in a position that affords a lot of authority and secret information. He knew exactly what he was doing, exactly who he was sacrificing, and he simply didn't place the well being of the civilians on that ship over the importance of burying the World Government's dirty undies.
A real class act, folks. What a chummy, jovial, personable kind of guy. A real emotionally intelligent role model unlike any other.
Okay. Now transfer this rule on the politics.
Your country would be completly paralised with indecision.
My government is already completely paralyzed with indecision, and this is probably only one of the reasons why.
It is one of the only good reasons I can think of that a government would wait before taking drastic measures. We should all learn to be a little more thoughtful, a little less cold and analytic about others and their lives.
Wait, wait, wait.
Making decisions amoraly does not necesserily mean making them in vaccum. While you yourself do not take morality into equation, you still can pass judgement onto others. Remember what Akainu said.
"If we're going to do it, we do it thoroughly…!!! If any of the scholars had managed to sneak onboard, all sacrfices would've been a complete waste...!! Evil needs to be rooted out!!!"
Mind you, going by the Mangareader scans. I don't own those volumes yet. I think they haven't come out, even...
Anyway, take notice: There is no personal "I" in this sentence. Akainu gives an explanetion for his action, but there's nothing personal about it, in a sense that while he does take into account moral alignment of others, he does not seem to be taking his own feelings into account.
He speaks of rooting out evil, which is placing himself in the role of a man that will do it, but still does not apply any positive connotations to himself in this sentece. Speaking of sacrfices being made and possibly being wasted? Justification, amoral one, rooted firmly in consequantionalism.
He does not, at least verbally, apply a higher moral standing to himself. Consider this an alternative character interpretation on my part.
Besides, I also said that I judge his actions amoraly. And judging them amoraly, they seem correct to me. You still failed to provide counter-arguments to that one. This is fun, keep it up.
You judging his actions amorally is a choice of yours, but it doesn't mean that Jerkainu's actions were amoral. Which is what you've been saying again and again. Don't get mad if we didn't interpret you correctly, when it was you who was saying the wrong thing.
Bottom line is that the guy's knee-Jerkainu reaction was to murder hundreds of civilians on the only safe transport from the island that was ALSO PROVIDED BY THE DAMNED MARINES IN THE FIRST PLACE. And this was just in the off chance that one or two of the scholars had safely made it to this same getaway boat.
OK. Maybe interrogations seem a little lengthier and difficult than a simple magma-fisting. But it's still the right thing to do, and totally within the marines' power in that situation.
Darth, you're looking ridiculous saying that we should judge Jerkainu's actions amorally when he himself is spouting shit about good and evil as he burns the innocents alive.
Judge the Joker's actions amoral as he poisons an entire crowd with airborn neurotoxins just to make the Batman's skin crawl, if you want. This situation is totally different. Akainu is (as far as we can tell) sane for the most part, and should be able to make moral judgments about his own actions. For you to cast the whole thing in this amoral light is just silly, don't you think?