Well, we don't really have a Raftel discussion on this site, so it couldn't hurt.
We will probably not find out about Raftel in years… it will just be a topic of soooooooooooooooo many assumptions.
Well, we don't really have a Raftel discussion on this site, so it couldn't hurt.
We will probably not find out about Raftel in years… it will just be a topic of soooooooooooooooo many assumptions.
How about this:
Raftel is the ancient home to a race of people so advanced they altered the oceans themselves creating the grand line and leaving a near impossible entrance to the island that has the power to control the world.
Raftel is a filler island.
It would be fuckin hilarious if there was a sniper island in the New World.
Not to be arrogant or anything, but is there a way you could show me some proof?
This really doesn't deserve its own thread???
Sigh. Whatever…
The World Government in general is the most visible and reoccuring antagonistic force. If not the most important.
True, but I think Blackbeard will prove the most challenging in the end. Shichibukai always beat Luffy to a pulp, and Blackbeard is certainly on that level now…with the Marines, he manages to slip away if he can't beat them. Like with Smoker.
The World Government has placed a bounty on Luffy's head of three hundred million berries. In addition, they tried to take Robin away and they put Ace in prison. Blackbeard has said to Luffy's face that he intends to find One Piece. Luffy doesn't seem to have the resolve to hate every citizen of 170+ countries along with the corrupt administrators that represent them. He's more the type that hates one person at a time. So, at a guess, Blackbeard will be the Main Villain but the World Government will retain their Primary Antagonist role.
There are 4 different types of conflict, if I recall correctly:
Man VS Man
Man VS Nature
Man VS Society
Man VS Himself
There are more, but you can always loop them into other groups. Like Man vs. God can easily be Man Vs. Nature. Or Man Vs Writer, being Man vs Himself.
Not to be arrogant or anything, but is there a way you could show me some proof?
Well there's the issue with the Lost History, Ancient Kingdom, Poneglyphs, and the Ohara incident that went with all that.
There's also how the Marines, encountered Seven Armed Sea members, Cipher Pol, and the staff of Impel Down were all people in the employ of the WG. Not to mention how we've seen the Elder Stars scheme.
It was a certain WG employee that sent Ace to the slaughterhouse.
And finally, there's how Newgate in his death speech basically said to find OP and fight the WG big time.
The WG as a institution has been the most visible antagonistic force.
This really doesn't deserve its own thread???
Sigh. Whatever…
It's a place we won't get to for years, we don't need a thread for it until then.
Potential Main Villains in One Piece:
Has to be Blackbeard surely. No other force has been singularly built up to be a dark mirror of Luffy, from the dream to the crew. The rest are just obstacles.
Blackbeard, he's an evil moron, and Luffy's a good moron :p (This makes no sense whatsoever)
This really doesn't deserve its own thread???
Sigh. Whatever…
Oh no, your glory of creating a big thread is gone
I feel your pain :cwy:
Oh no, your glory of creating a big thread is gone
I feel your pain :cwy:
To tell you the truth, I really don't care that much about this thread.
And it's not dead. It just merged into an even bigger thread.
Like how Cell absorbed Android 18 to become Perfect Cell.
Wrong
Because Cell hasn't changed to Perfect Cell, he's still Cell, but now he has your thread inside of him, but no one will ever notice the difference
Did this come from the Aohige that lurks these forums ? :o
R: Oda-raoshii . I'm sure you're going to say "There was a guard room nearby where the prisoners' private clothes were being stored, and he went there and got his clothes and cigars back. Well done, Crocodile! He's so sensitive about appearances." …or some reply like that, but I'm still going to ask. When he was freed in chapter 540, Crocodile was wearing a prisoner's uniform, so why is he wearing his own clothes and smoking a cigar the next time he shows up? (Pen Name: Aohige)
O: You almost know already!! But I'm still going to answer. The prisoners' personal belongings are put in some place for storage, and since the people of Kama Land steal from there, they have a lot of different clothes. Cigars and other stuff, too. I skipped drawing it, but Luffy and the others did go back to Kama Land briefly, so he got it from someone there.
I regularly write in as "kusohige" and ask why luffy and hancock aren't married yet.
Oda has yet to respond to me.
Wrong
Because Cell hasn't changed to Perfect Cell, he's still Cell, but now he has your thread inside of him, but no one will ever notice the difference
Hmm, maybe Buu works as a better reference.
I regularly write in as "kusohige" and ask why luffy and hancock aren't married yet.
Oda has yet to respond to me.
lol.
he seems to only respond to the wakky or the perceptive when it comes to individuals. Otherwise Majority rules.
PS
Still waiting for Aohige's confirmation 0.o
BEHOLD THE TRUE MAIN VILLIAN OF ONE PIECE!!!
Do you think we will see Sengoku is another fight?
Do you think we will see Kong fight?
What is the hierarchy in the World Government(including marines)(use names if possible)?
I still think it's Blackbeard.
Zehahaha Blackbeard…it's his era/age now..Blackbeard it is.
Do you think we will see Sengoku is another fight?
Do you think we will see Kong fight?
What is the hierarchy in the World Government(including marines)(use names if possible)?
the fact that they have retired and are nothing more than teachers makes it unlikely they'll be fighting.
I assume they'll be stationed at marine HQ which isn't in the new world, which is where the story is ending up.
Do you think we will see Sengoku is another fight?
Do you think we will see Kong fight?
Well yeah for Sengoku, his power wasn't entirely explained yet, and he didn't do much (with Garp) in the war, it's kinda obviou Oda was trying to save them for later.
Kong may fight in a Mariejoa/revolutionnaries/slaves arc or anyone that involves WG directly (that final war, Luffy's allies vs ???)
And he might have a King Kong DF
What is the hierarchy in the World Government(including marines)(use names if possible)?
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it`s the corrupt world of OP which wants to control everything and so destroys most dreams to be free.
I bet it will be the counterparts of kung fu dugongs: karate toads.
I guess this goes here…
Kizaru broke the key that Luffy was going to use to free Ace. If he has such accuracy, why didn't he just headshot him?
This has been bugging me.
Plot armor .
@Kairouseki:
Plot armor .
I guess situations like that make his plot armor obvious.
Kizaru could have killed Luffy multiple times but had fun just sending him backwards. Doesn't seem like Oda to give Luffy that much plot armor so I would hope there is more to Kizaru supposed leniency on Luffy. He was ready to kill Hawkins before he got Sentoumaru's message.
Heres hoping Kizaru wants Kizaru alive to turn in to the Tenryubitto or something. Something malicious since it would be incredibly lame if he turned out to be a nice guy or spy or someshit. Definitely doesn't seem that type of character.
Add it to Luffy's luck.
He's so lucky Kizaru didn't felt like killing him….
Hey, i was just wondering if Luffy developed a 4th gear,
considering the properties of rubber and how Luffy's other gears work what would it be like?
I think it would be a mix of gears 2 and 3 and because of the stress on his body could only be used once (like he could only use 1 attack) before all his energy drains out
if he does develop a fourth gear it will most likely involve haki.
if he does develop a fourth gear it will most likely involve haki.
yh thats what's I thought too.
Infact if the other straw hats obtain it as well it opens up all kinds of new attacks - or more powerful versions of old ones.
Yes. Haki is the answer to everything.
asura and diamble jamble is haki. Rumble balls are haki. derp derp
asura and diamble jamble is haki. Rumble balls are haki. derp derp
Why do I think you're being serious?
In Gear 4th, which does not roll off the Tongue quite so nicely, Luffy will streeeeetch so much that the entirety of the grand line will be encompassed within him, and then he eats all of his opponents, compacting them inside his unstoppable stomach.
This is undeniable.
Just like how Rumble balls are obviously a mixture of haki and sugar. Yup.
Obviously a shiny key attracts light!
Manga logic ftw.
I'd rather pass it up as Kizaru would rather just had him over to the Tenryubitto
Key is less resilliant than Rubber Luffy, sure he could head shot him a few times but i doubt luffy would have been taken down.
1 Plot armor
2 Luffy is written to be resilliant
Not to mention the admirals had plenty of things to watch for since they were suppose to be the spear heads of the marines defense in a full blown pirate war. They have to have split attention. He also probably figured by getting rid of the key he secured their victory. Doubt he suspected there was "Mr 3 the Key Making Machine" running around.
he could've killed them both if he used another finger you know…
I think the real question is: Why is Kizaru so disappointing? If he can move a the speed of light and shoot lasers, shouldn't he have been able to personally go up to each and every enemy in the war and laser their brains out in an instant? Not like I would want that, since it makes for a crappy story, but that's just what I imagined when I first heard there was a light Devil Fruit. kicks dust >:
He couldn't do that because he can't attack at light speed.
Though it was pure plot he didn't personally sink a few pirate ships.
luffy already attack with a second and third gear combined techinque Moria.
But it isn`t called gear 4 than^^
haki sure gives a great oportunity of improving his strenght and style..but i think its better when we go back to the basics. it shouldn
t be added more Super-Gear techniques ,like Gear4 hardrubber,Gear 5 …
it should more be a clever variation of new moves with the techniques Luffy already showed (for example in skypia i think he powered up cool his normal attacks...could do that also with gear 3 in my opinion.)
:| I know everyone doesn't speak French but come on…
i ,also lol'd a little bit but everybody can make mistakes