General Sonic the Hedgehog Thread (Now With Movie 3 & Knuckles)

Airflow

I love coming into these threads with the opinion of an outsider, it always makes a good read.

Darkstorm

Trainwreckspotters.

Hiroy

I'm assuming this is going to be another rushed masterpiece~~ofshit~~ judging by the release date.

Badass SnoCone

No the adventure games had flighty controls and a terrible camera and were a partially successful attempt to bring sonic to 3D, and at the time people were hopeful that sega were on the right track. Then heroes came out, the controls and camera were worse instead of better and the levels were boring.

Shadow the hedgehog was your average 3d sonic game(already a black mark against it) but "darker" and with guns. No difference there, and it was rightly panned at the time

Well, I enjoyed playing 3 out of 4 of those games. (I could never finish Shadow, then my memory card got erased :getlost:). I wasn't focusing on the camera angle while playing them. I was focusing on the actual game itself. They actually had interesting storylines.

Out of curiosity, what Sonic games (if any) did you like?

Cyan D. Funk

@Badass:

They actually had interesting storylines.

Snocone, you have just lit the powder keg.

START RUNNING!

Darkstorm

@Badass:

Well, I enjoyed playing 3 out of 4 of those games. (I could never finish Shadow, then my memory card got erased :getlost:). I wasn't focusing on the camera angle while playing them. I was focusing on the actual game itself. They actually had interesting storylines.

The "story", such as it was, was derisible, and has been an albatross around the neck of the franchise since.

Especially since sonic doesn't even need a story. It's like mario in that respect.

Miyamoto knows what he's going on about though.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/06/super-mario-galaxy-2/

@Badass:

Out of curiosity, what Sonic games (if any) did you like?

Great:

Sonic 2,3,S & K

Very good:

Sonic CD(couldn't get on with the dash so much)

Good:

Sonic 1

Haven't played in too long:

Chaotix(need to try this again), master system games(though I remember the MS games I have played to be rubbish).

Badass SnoCone

@Darkstorm:

Great:

Sonic 2,3,S & K

Very good:

Sonic CD(couldn't get on with the dash so much)

Good:

Sonic 1

Haven't played in too long:

Chaotix(need to try this again), master system games(though I remember the MS games I have played to be rubbish).

Ah, alright, then. I've never played those games, so I don't have an honest opinion on them.

@Darkstorm:

The "story", such as it was, was derisable, and has been an albatross around the neck of the franchise since.

Especially since sonic doesn't even need a story. It's like mario in that respect.

True, but adding a storyline isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long as the story is a good one.

Darkstorm

@Badass:

Ah, alright, then. I've never played those games, so I don't have an honest opinion on them.

Then which did you download onto the wii?

@Badass:

True, but adding a storyline isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long as the story is a good one.

But it wasn't, the story in the 3d sonic games has been universally derided.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/0…ario-galaxy-2/

Miyamoto had the right idea.

Nobodyman

@Badass:

True, but adding a storyline isn't necessarily a bad thing

It is when you have a human girl playing tonsil hockey with a hedgehog.

Badass SnoCone

@Darkstorm:

Then which did you download onto the wii?

Sonic 3D Blast. Which was horrible. So horrible that I deleted it from my Wii. The 3D games I was saying I liked with the story were the Adventure games, and not all the 3D sonic Games. But, 3D Blast. No.

I do remember having the Sonic Adventure 1 Gamecube re-release, which had demos of old Sonic Games. I played the one where Tails was playable for the first time. (Was it 3?) That was enjoyable, if I remember correctly, but it's been a long time since I played it, though.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/0…ario-galaxy-2/

Miyamoto had the right idea.

It worked for the Mario Games, I guess, considering how good the reviews for Galaxy 2 are.
But I dunno, something about the Adventure games drew me in as a kid and I always liked them, but maybe it's the nostalgia talking.

@Nobodyman:

It is when you have a human girl playing tonsil hockey with a hedgehog.

Saywhanow?

Wagomu

I think Sonic demonstrates to a degree what may have happened to the Mario franchise if they did inject story. A lot of it is just so trite and stupid that it actually detracts from the experience.

Alen

Oh great. Another lame furry game.

Nobodyman

@Badass:

Saywhanow?

S1mJ9atk3dE .

Insider2000

Darkstorm, did you ever play Robotnik Bean Machine?

Badass SnoCone

@Nobodyman:

S1mJ9atk3dE .

Yea…but I was talking about the Adventure Series/Heroes/Shadow stories. Not the 3D games as a whole. Like I said before, the four 3D games I mentioned have pretty good storylines, BUT

@Badass:

The games after that… not so much

Darkstorm

@Insider2000:

Darkstorm, did you ever play Robotnik Bean Machine?

No since it was just a puyo puyo clone with sonic cartoon graphics.

I imagine it's good(hard to screw up a puyo puyo game), but I didn't really have a great deal of money to spend on games back then, so puzzle games were pretty much at the bottom of my list.

Cyan D. Funk

Great:

Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3
& Knuckles

Good:

Heroes
The first thirty minutes of Shadow
Adventure 1
Daytime Unleashed levels.

(No Darkstorm, I don't care about the damn camera)

Bad:

Everything after Shadow's first thirty minutes
Adventures 2
Werehog levels.

Really fucking bad:

'06
The last ten minutes of Shadow

There's my parameters.

Robby

@Badass:

Sonic 3D Blast.

Nobody liked 3D Blast.

It was their first attempt at a 3D Sonic game.

And probably proof they shouldn't have made the attempt.

Darkstorm

@robbybedfart:

Nobody liked 3D Blast.

It was their first attempt at a 3D Sonic game.

And probably proof they shouldn't have made the attempt.

Travellers tales made 3d blast. I think sonic team were trying to make Xtreme at the time.

@Cyan:

(No Darkstorm, I don't care about the damn camera)

And the camera doesn't care about you either.

Cyan D. Funk

@Darkstorm:

And the camera doesn't care about you either.

I should have figured that after it didn't call me back.

Darkstorm

It was too busy repeatedly ramming into a wall you had already passed by on your way to your date with a bottomless pit of death.

Insider2000

@Darkstorm:

No since it was just a puyo puyo clone with sonic cartoon graphics.

I imagine it's good(hard to screw up a puyo puyo game), but I didn't really have a great deal of money to spend on games back then, so puzzle games were pretty much at the bottom of my list.

O_O….Puyo...Puyo?

googles

.....I'm going to be away for a little bit.

Hiroy

I saw a vid from 06… What is up with Sonic dying? Does a story in a Sonic universe need angst like that?

Alen

Oh well, I'm sure this game will please the furry fandom.

Nobodyman

@robbybedfart:

Nobody liked 3D Blast.

It was their first attempt at a 3D Sonic game.

And probably proof they shouldn't have made the attempt.

That wasn't even a Sonic game. It was some other game (I think it was called Flicker or something) that they just inserted Sonic into.

Darkstorm

@Nobodyman:

That wasn't even a Sonic game. It was some other game (I think it was called Flicker or something) that they just inserted Sonic into.

You mean Flickies island, that was just a subtitle for the game. The flickies were the birds you saved.

It was a proper sonic game as far as I know, simply not made by sonic team.

Cyan D. Funk

@Alen:

Oh well, I'm sure this game will please the furry fandom.

Don't be disrespecting the furs. Seriously, those guys have fucking balls of steel.

Nobodyman

@Darkstorm:

You mean Flickies island, that was just a subtitle for the game. The flickies were the birds you saved.

It was a proper sonic game as far as I know, simply not made by sonic team.

No, I'm talking about this.

kA4VFxfiORg

And it was indeed called Flicky.

Darkstorm

This was a ground-up sonic game that for whatever reason Sega decided would have those characters in as a side show along with themes from the game.

A bit far away from saying sonic was "inserted" into it, this wasn't a dinosaur planet situation.

Alen

@Cyan:

Don't be disrespecting the furs. Seriously, those guys have fucking balls of steel.

I welcome fun challenges.

Nobodyman

@Darkstorm:

This was a ground-up sonic game that for whatever reason Sega decided would have those characters in as a side show along with themes from the game.

A bit far away from saying sonic was "inserted" into it, this wasn't a dinosaur planet situation.

Well, you have to admit that the gameplay mechanics are pretty much the same (aside from the enemies, boss battles, chaos emerald stages, and it being, you know, 3D)

Jarhead

….
At first I was like :l
Then I was like :o
AND THEN XD I rolled on the floor as what the crap is Sega doing!

Gustrono

Their MAKING a NEW game, thats what!

Cyan D. Funk

I wish Long John Baldrey was still alive.

That man is the only one worthy enough to voice Robotnik.

Insider2000

@Cyan:

I wish Long John Baldrey was still alive.

That man is the only one worthy enough to voice Robotnik.

:sad:

Don't remind me. Regardless of anyone's opinion of his ability to due Robotnik's voice, he was a good man.

kewl0210

Actually, there's a lot more to this trailer than I thought. Quite a bit more confirmed that I initially thought, maybe we can be making judgements about this game already:
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/29529

Robby

Flicky also had a Tetris style came, where ocassionalyl you would clear a line to get a powerup, which would then give you a flicky with a canon to destroy more blocks with.

Flicky was something of a side Sega franchise, I'd assume.

Bobjr

Hell, I remember a stage in Adventure 2 I couldn't beat because the camera angle was so bad I didn't know where to go.

Robby

So this game is basically a remake of Little Nemo for the NES, right?

TTheCook

Don't forget about running so fast, you fall through the floor of a level.

I think GamesRadar did a bit on post-Genesis Sonic games. Sonic Adventure scored highly when it was first released on Dreamcast, but when it was re-released on the Gamecube, it was considered mediocre.

And there is no way in hell Shadow was a good game. That was Sega's poor attempt to make Sonic dark and badass. I'm pretty sure Sega just threw darts at a bulletin board full of action cliches and called it a day.

SA2 had its merits, like skateboarding down a hill being chased by a giant truck, but that was a copy/paste from SA1's whale chase. It was fun until you realize how painfully boring all the stages are outside of Sonic and Shadow's..plus there is the Pumpkin Hill rap, yo.

Darkstorm

@robbybedfart:

So this game is basically a remake of Little Nemo for the NES, right?

Yeah, but probably without the being good.

Captain Shmeckie

So, was I a fool for thinking Sonic 4 was a sign Sega was starting to get it?!

At least the soundtrack will likely be worth a download…

Strohhut-Ruffy

@robbybedfart:

Nobody liked 3D Blast.
It was their first attempt at a 3D Sonic game.

Whoa whoa, I loved 3D Blast. I got it for the PC 12 years ago (or something) and I loved it!
I also have to say the PC-version is much better than the Sega Saturn one.
It was very great back then and the best thing that could´ve happen to me after playing the Genesis/Mega-Drive games dead as a kid.

The huge Sonic 06 mistake was, that they made the same levels for every damn character. Silver slowed everybody down.
That and a few minor story issues.

One of the ,Great, Good, Bad´-lists was pretty accurate. Unleashed daytime levels were not half as bad as the werehogs.

And it´s going to be the same WOWLOOKSNEWOHSHITNOWAITFUCKTHISGAMEIT´SBADNOIT´SNOT -drama with SONIC COLORS.
The whole damn same thing.
I don´t trust Sega´s Sonic the Hedgehog anymore.
No.

Insider2000

@Strohhut-Ruffy:

Whoa whoa, I loved 3D Blast. I got it for the PC 12 years ago (or something) and I loved it!
I also have to say the PC-version is much better than the Sega Saturn one.
It was very great back then and the best thing that could´ve happen to me after playing the Genesis/Mega-Drive games dead as a kid.

The huge Sonic 06 mistake was, that they made the same levels for every damn character. Silver slowed everybody down.
That and a few minor story issues.

One of the ,Great, Good, Bad´-lists was pretty accurate. Unleashed daytime levels were not half as bad as the werehogs.

And it´s going to be the same WOWLOOKSNEWOHSHITNOWAITFUCKTHISGAMEIT´SBADNOIT´SNOT -drama with SONIC COLORS.
The whole damn same thing.
I don´t trust Sega´s Sonic the Hedgehog anymore.
No.