@Thousand:
What bugged me is the chief editor's words. I don't care about lack of ability or whatnot, Miura is pretty much screwing over his mangaka and should be fired. The chief editor's pretty speech only applies if all the editors are competent which Miura is clearly not.
You missed the entire intent of the speech!
Why is Miura a bad editor? He does his research, and is trying to guide his prospects on the road to success. The leads playing to their strengths before, and they got cancelled. Muira isn't activley sabotaging them. He's encouraging them, and offering good advice, the kids are just taking it the wrong way because they don't like the advice.
Yes, he's making them work outside their comfort zone, and he's a bit too bent on doing a comedy, but they're the ones who's main perogative is to "be successful for the long term and have a series that gets made into an anime and we want that success from the getgo." They're doing comedy right now because its less risky that an a straight up action thing, even they agreed that was the way to go.
We're just biased because our leads are our focal point, so we're constantly getting their POV on the situation.
If an artist writer says "I want to do this kind of story" but its not appropriate for where they're trying to submit because its TOO dark or nonsensical or complicated or whatever, they need to be told so. (Really it feels like the kids would be better doing a seinin title, but they insist on Jump, which means they have to do something not entirely within their ideal zone.)
Muira's not the instant badass that is Hattori, but he's not actually BAD either. His bias towards comedy is a bit of a problem, but thats because the kids are hewing TOO close to the exact letter of what he's saying, instead of the intent. Collaborations are about getting the strong points from all involved, balancing out weaknesses. Right now they're pretty much just doing exactly what Muira wants, instead of bringing their own feel to it. And that's THEIR fault, not Muira's. And blaming him IS a weak excuse.
The KIDS are the ones who are not drawing in a style they enjoy, not writing in a style they feel comfortable with, not doing a story they feel enthused about. They're just trying to do it that way because its a "sure thing."
It also doesn't help that they aren't actually TELLING Muira ANY of this, they're mostly just bitching about it behind his back
As has been constantly said in this thread, a DARK comedy would probably suit them well. It would appease the kids, and the editor, and pull in a best of both worlds balance that neither side could achieve on their own. They'll find a balance and be better for it in the long run before long. But both the creative team AND the editor needed a couple failures to figure out the kinks. Sucess isn't easy or immediate, and they're trying to find a balance.
The advice from the head editor was "Your editor is telling you to do comedy. YOU'RE the ones trying to make Doraemon from his advice. Don't do that, make early Dragonball instead!"
to be honest I wanted to counter but I'd rather step down and let it die
that isn't "cowardice".
 
