In what way does Christianity glorify marriage more than other religions?
Why your Religion is False?
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I'm guessing that he means that Christianity makes marriage a sacred beautiful thing between two people. I assume (Key word) that he hasn't really looked into other religions in that matter, but he generally agrees with the idea, so if he's following the wrong path, he can still carry on that idea of having marriage as something special and sacred.
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@Monkey:
Also, bottling up behavior until marriage is pretty much asking for an extremely harsh midlife crisis.
Not to mention a totally mind shattering quarter life crisis, because then you've realized how bad you've fucked up for the rest of your life.
@dirt:I think that I read somewhere it's actually a good thing for guys to have sex around 19 or 20 or so. Otherwise, they can't perform as well later on.
So get to work, boys.
Like this, for instance.
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@Mr.:
Purity is something that I view as something that can be regained (it's not a value, more like a gift/present). It's not something that once you give it away you can't get back. Say a guy has hot wild sex (Team America, anyone?) with a Woman A, but doesn't marry her. He then marries Woman B, and asks God for forgiveness for having sex with Woman A (or asks for forgiveness sometime before meeting Woman B).
ahahaha, this is fucking ridiculous. You're completely bypassing the concept of matrimony in every sense. You don't and can't cheat on someone you aren't in a relationship with, how the hell is something wrong in the above scenario. It's completely nonsensical.
You're throwing in some bizarre destiny bullshit that even I'm pretty sure is nowhere in the bible.
Pretty sure that just wants people to hook up to reproduce and stay together for the functional purpose of a well kept family unit.
Also it was probably written in the friggin' Bronze Age, so I'm pretty sure it was in a time and place where casual safe sex didn't really exist.I figured someone would say this. Yes, I said I wouldn't change my ideal about women, but I didn't say I wouldn't change my religion ever and act like "Christianity is the supreme ideal. End of discussion!".
It's hilarious that you still haven't figured out that no one cares about the religion, we care about your caveman views on female sexuality.
If I were to change my religious views, then my views of women would most likely change as well. And Christianity is still something I'm exploring and enjoying, and thus at the moment, the ideal I have of woman is something I'm never gonna change as long as I'm exploring the other aspects of christianity.
"I'm exploring this gigantic many faceted evolving thing! You can bet this one aspect many people within this thing don't believe in like I do will NEVER CHANGE EVER."
It sounds more like your "religious exploration" is akin to looking for bugs under the rocks in your backyard.
She should still marry is she wants to. She can give her purity to her next husband, provided that she does find another man to marry.
What the fuck do you even mean by purity. Why isn't this concept also involved with men.
Resisting doesn't sound plausible, but it's quite amazing what you can do when you really want to achieve something. I want to have a great time when I do it, and when you set principles (like having sex after marriage), you have to sacrifice some things.
Why on earth do you think two completely inexperienced 20 somethings who regard sex as a fearful sinful act will have a great time.
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Dear, Monkey King
You clearly don't understand his way of life, instead of mindlessly bashing on him, you can instead ask questions to try and understand it better. Or if you're trying to get him to stop believing in his religion, you should also stop bashing, because bashing would only make him more defensive and stick with his beliefs. Of course, that's assuming that you actually care. -
Yeah, well, they're heteronormative beliefs that condone and create incidental oppression in the form of gender essentialism? They're not really health, the way he's describing. It's better he has a fuller understanding of the views.
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@Holy:
Yeah, well, they're beliefs that condone and creates incidental oppression in the form of gender essentialism?
If both partners fully agree to this by their own choice, whats it to us? Are they harming you or anyone by choosing to follow this way of life?
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I thought it was more saying he valued women less if they had sex thing that got people after him.
Besides, how is sex supposed to be the only measuring point of "purity" anyway? That is such a flawed system.
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Mr. Zoro clearly said "Purity is something that I view as something that can be regained (it's not a value, more like a gift/present). It's not something that once you give it away you can't get back." So he doesn't believe that sex is the only measuring point of purity.
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That doesn't explain what he thinks purity is, just some goofy measure of how he thinks "it" works.
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Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
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And I'm entitled to take any belief to task I want.
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Sure you are, I'm just letting you know that it's only going to take you backwards. You'll get nowhere with this attitude of "You moron stop believing that crap". But of course, you're free to believe and do what ever you want.
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I should find that article about how it was recorded in the Bible that fathers need to stick fingers up ahem to prove their daughters' virginity.
@Mr.:
If I were to change my religious views, then my views of women would most likely change as well.
And why the hell should one's opinion of women change with the change of their religion?
It shouldn't have any reflection on his view of women at all. His view of women should come from his own experiences and not from the aged practices and views of men that lived thousands of years ago.
@Mr.:
One of the reasons I hold onto it (and why I came to it) is out of all the religions I know, christianity seems to be the one that glorifies marriage the most, and in that regard, it's something I like to take very seriously.
MOST religions hold marriage in high regard - barring the religions where they vow celibacy and instead marry God or whatever they do (oh, hey, look, high regard to marriage!). He makes it sound as if Christianity is the only religion he knows anything about - and even then very little.
Which doesn't surprise me in the slightest after reading these replies.
also, shut up, Rubber Fister
Zippy never told Mr Zorolander to quit his religion
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Treating other people's shitty beliefs with kid gloves also goes nowhere. It gives certain beliefs a veneer of respect they quite frankly simply don't deserve.
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I believe you misunderstood me, I never said that he told him to quit, I was only making an "if" scenario.
I don't support everything the bible asks its followers to do, but if it's something such as marriage, and both people choose to do it by their own choice, I do not believe we have a say in it.
As for Gliblord,that is true, but people don't have to bash on others to get their point across, all of these insults that are added to the debate only make it worse for both sides. -
@Rubber:
You'll get nowhere with this attitude of "You moron stop believing that crap".
You certainly seem to believe that's his goal.
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Well as far as I noticed, that's the tone that he was using. Sorry I couldn't think of a better way to describe it.
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The only things I noticed was people shooting down an asshole for claiming that a woman expressing her love for someone is somehow impure simply because there's no ring on her finger.
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When did we all become judges?
What I mean is, those are his beliefs, and just like I said before, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. Again, insulting him will get you nowhere.
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@Rubber:
When did we all become judges?
And who is he to judge what women do?
Think first. Then type.
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I edited my previous post to further explain my point of view.
He's just sharing his personal beliefs, he never claimed that everyone should go by these beliefs, and I didn't see him try to enforce them on anyone. Just like you think he's an a**hole for thinking that, you're entitled to your own opinion and so is he. Hope I made it clear this time -
@Rubber:
Dear, Monkey King
You clearly don't understand his way of life, instead of mindlessly bashing on him, you can instead ask questions to try and understand it better. Or if you're trying to get him to stop believing in his religion, you should also stop bashing, because bashing would only make him more defensive and stick with his beliefs. Of course, that's assuming that you actually care.You know, I did count at least 3 questions in his last reply to Zoro. I'm pretty sure there is some form of trying to understand him better, along with a healthy dose of WTF.
Let me understand you better, are you in agreement with his stance? Or are there parts that you disagree with him on?
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You know, I did count at least 3 questions in his last reply to Zoro. I'm pretty sure there is some form of trying to understand him better, along with a healthy dose of WTF.
Let me understand you better, are you in agreement with his stance? Or are there parts that you disagree with him on?
I lean more towards Mr. Zoro's point of view, but I don't fully agree with either.
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Fascinating discussion. I'm a religious guy so I agree with the fact that sex is good inside of marriage and that it's bad outside of marriage.
The only problem I have is the definition of marriage. For me marriage is just the will/intention of 2 people to be a couple for always.So sex in a loving and healthy relationship is great, one-night-stands not so much.
@ Mr. Zoro: I think it's a good thing for you to hold on with sex untill your marriage, if you plan to get married asap. But it's gonna get really unhealthy if you plan to stay "pure" untill your 30s or something. Unhealthy purity can't be called pure, if you ask me. lol.
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Interesting that what we are discussing is one of the major theme of Ashina.
As long as the sex has constructive purpose, I don't care whether it's inside or outside marriage, or how many people you do it with.
Purity lies in the soul, not the body. Human body is not supposed to be categorized as dirty or not. -
Every human is born with a pure heart and bad deeds make it darker and darker untill the heart becomes so dark and hard, you lose your humanity.
That's a vital teaching of islam: The purity of the heart.
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It's funny how in Christianity, it's the opposite where everyone is born with original sin and they need to be washed with holy water as a baby to wash away the sin and purify their soul.
tldr:
In Christianity, babies are evil sinners unless they take a special bath.
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Hey ladies, I have a pure heart. Come have sex with me.
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Of course, we cannot tell what's in the heart of another person, only that person and their creator know what's really going on in their heart.
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I really don't get the message from that page.
But I feel nostalgic, one of the best cartoons I've ever seen. :wub::wub::wub: -
Even when there were puritans first settling in American half of couples were pregnant when they got married, so they didn't follow that rule hundreds of years ago either.
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@THE:
Human body is not supposed to be categorized as dirty or not.
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What I see is a beautiful image,
Aizen #2Tsukishima-san. -
@THE:
Aizen #2Tsukishima-san.You will burn in hell for that.
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I feel like eating that kid. I guess a lack of religion is really turning me cannabalistic.
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@Sonic:
I feel like eating that kid. I guess a lack of religion is really turning me cannabalistic.
He's covered in septic mixture lol.
That's from Slumdog Millionaire. -
Oh yeah, I just finished watching Oz (a prison tv drama). Just dropping that here, it always makes me laugh:
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