I think the dubs might be ok, but I mean, do people really keep track of dub voice actors a lot? It's only being direct-to-DVD so they'r not advertising it that much, they're not gonna give a lot of info beforehand. I believe someone posted somewhere here or on NG how many episodes would be in it.
Hunter x Hunter
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Holy dog shit on a stick! yupi's new transformation is fucking wicked, looks like something out of berserk or parasite. I said this once a long time ago that togashi has the means to do a seinen series if he really wants to.
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nice, lookin good. as expected of Togashi sensei.
but i can see eye changes of pufu , i don't know if gon will fight or kilua will come just then or maybe pitou will do somethingreally can't wait for the chpt
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Pufu will most likeally end leaving pitou and gon alone, seek out mereum and interupt mereums match with netero only to be severly wounded by mereum which I believe someone else stated the same thing earlier in this thread.
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The first pictures of Yupis transofmation was a bit dissapointing for me. And the drawing on page 10 is just horrible.
But in the 12-13 spread the centaur shape finally looks viable to me…
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which panel are you referring to gorlom? cause I see nothing wrong with the art on any of those panels.
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Are you kidding me? You see nothing wrong with page 10 panel 4?
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He's in motion, it's supposed to look blurred.
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Are you kidding me? You see nothing wrong with page 10 panel 4?
not really, it's suppose to show how fast yupi is suppose to be in that form, making it seem like a blur, that's the concept I get from it, it's not like togashi is drawing horrible on purpose, since the rest of the chapter's art is spectacular.
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I'm talking about the panel where he stabs the fake Morau yes. http://www.onemanga.com/Hunter_X_Hunter/287/10/ (just to make it very clear about which page we are on)
But I'm not talking about the blur or any effect like that. I'm talking about the shape of the character… compare it to all the other pictures of Yupi in centaur form and it just looks fucking horrible imo. The horsebody is pressed together and the ass is overdimensioned, the hindlegs are suddenly longer then the front legs. Although that could be because the back legs look dislocated, so if the femur jumped out of it's socket or whatever that could possibly explain why it looks longer.
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hmmm…I can now see what your talking about but take into consideration that it could be the fact that when he turned the chapter in that could of been one of the pages he wanted to re-draw but forgot, i'm sure we'll get a better quality when he releases the volume which will have these chapters in it.
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something I don't really understand… why do we get the volume release for the last 10 chapters at the start of a new set of 10 chapters? Does he really need all that time just to retouch the drawings?
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Seems like a timing thing rather than coincidence. The redone V24 I doubt took 20 months. It's just that it gains excitement back all at once, probably.
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All I can say it's good marketing, manga goes back on run for 10 weeks and what do the fans get there? that's right! a brand new volume! yay!
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Pufu is planning on escaping, but listens to what Pitou has done since they last saw eachother.
Seems King is really confident he can kill Netero, and then starts saying he doesn't want to fight him. Netero is scared as fuck.
All Morau's clones are gone. Seems Yupi kills Morau, or maybe not. Maybe Yupi went bankrupt, and Morau isn't dead. Or maybe both. It's unclear.
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I translated it.
Some of the King/Netero lines are unclear for me, but Netero is attacking the King despite what he says. Though it's hard to tell who's scared and who isn't.Morau seems to have been implied to have been killed, but we dunno, mabe he'll survive and head into one of Novu's holes, like Shoot.
Pufu left 1/7th of himself to wait for the King to come back to create an illusion for Gon. The rest went to look for the king.
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sounds like an interesting spoiler.
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Off topic a bit, but I finally got volume 22 and 23 in English. The trans is great, besides in volume 22 there's a really weird bit when Feitan is talking to Zazan before he finishes her off. It's in Japanese… with a small english trans crudely jammed at the bottom. Otherwise, it's good to keep adding to my favorite arc of all time.
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That's chinese. He speaks chinese when he gets angry, it's noted, I think, in the scanlation, too…
No, I checked, they don't even make a note of it there. You'd think they would.
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feitan vs. zazan is a fight I wouldn't mind seeing animated.
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Wow. It's really hard to tell if Morau is gonna die or not. Although I don't want him to die, it would be pretty cool if Yupi went bankrupt with that final blow to kill Morau, then Knuckle can go crazy and pummel him like a sack of dead meat.
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I get the feeling novu is going to save morau at the last second.
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Even if Yupi went bankrupt the second before he landed the blow, the natural strenght of a chimera ant would be enough to crush Morau right? Or would Yupi as a shapeshifter lose complete controll of himself and fizzzle out? The royal guards were born with nenpowers/strenght unlike the rest of the ants right? Could they be naturally weaker just that their supplie of nen power makes them that much stronger?
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It's simply not possible for a non-Nen user/person in Zetsu to seriously physically damage someone who's using Nen.
If Yupi went bankrupt right before landing the punch, then Morau would have survived it so long as he had the energy to guard against the blow.
With that said, Morau was in a really bad place and was struggling to even stay conscious, so…
...here's hoping that someone else bailed him out at the last minute.
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Yupi can't mathematically have gone bankrupt by then. he'd have to have used about 300,000 aura to beat the 30~ clones up with his focused attack. Which would total more than the amount of aura he's used for absolutely everything so far multiplied by 1.5. So, very unlikely. It's possible Meleoron or Knuckle showed up or something like that, but that's all. We'll see how it goes…
But you're right about a non-nen user not being able to ever beat a nen user.
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But, the Interest is a %, so as the debt grows, so does the interest rate… besides the time limit from last chapter seemed prety exact.
http://www.onemanga.com/Hunter_X_Hunter/287/12-13/
at 7:53 min he had 3:50 min left of nenhttp://www.onemanga.com/Hunter_X_Hunter/288/16/
9:29NOOOO, I misscalculated, not even 2 minutes have passed :(
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I calculated that whole thing on a high level, you can see that here:
http://www.nexgear.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=20601&view=findpost&p=510127
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But you're right about a non-nen user not being able to ever beat a nen user.
Imo that is only true when talking about human vs human. As far as I recall a whole bunch of ants without nen took out a number of hunters/nenusers.
I'm at least 100% certain the spider chimera ant thingy took out the guy that used rainbow coloured arrows without nen. It was through him they learned about nen in the first place.
And I was assuming that Morau does not have enough concentration or nen left to guard against anything.
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He didn't beat Pokkle, Pokkle stayed alive for a while and was then taken control of by Nefelpitou. And though they didn't know what nen was, they were still using it because they were made up of nen-using humans.
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I'm pretty sure that those guys weren't Nen-users at the time.
And Pockle was beaten, he only managed to stay alive thanks to the antidote he had on him.
But there's a reason I said "physical." Pockle got beaten by a poison attack, and Ponzu got offed off-screen so we don't know the specifics of that.
Thing is, Yupi is purely physical. He's using a blade at the moment, but that's gone once he goes bankrupt. Then it's back to punching and tentaclerape, and that's not going to kill anyone.
Though there's the question as when that's going to happen… Knuckle may be safe, but I can't say that about anyone else. :/
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I thought the one to bring ants nen powers was that weird rabbit bird creature killua and gon fought, who later on get's decapitated by killua.
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Yeah. They got nen abilities "at all" very early on, because non-nen users can never beat proper nen users. This is explained in the Celestial Tower arc, about how the ones that couldn't use nen were "baptized" by the nen users, forced to use it, or else they died.
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AGHAGHAGHAGHAGHAGHAGAHGAHGHAHGAHGHGHAGHGH
If the most recent spoilers are real… I have no fucking idea what to think.
It is flat-out the most retarded possible course of actions for them to take. -_-;;
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Holy crap are you kidding…??!?!!
I don't know what to feel. I'm completely stunned that just happened... but still... DAMN. There's no doubt. At this rate the protagonists WILL lose. Someone needs to come into the picture and help them out BIG TIME. -
Fucking Knuckle.
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With Pufu heading to the King, I half-expect that to end with the King telling butterflyboy to screw off, thus leading to him sobbing in a corner somewhere as he cuts himself.
As for his fight with Netero, that's anybody's guess at this point.
Gon and Pitou… that's the one thing I reeeeally hope goes off without a hitch. More than anything else, Gon deserves to get his bloodsoaked revenge against the evil kitty.
I had been expecting Killua to show up at the worst possible minute and throw shit off with Pufu, but it looks like that's off… he might still wind up fighting the 1/7th shell-type butterfly, but who knows.
And everyone else... AGHAGAHGHAHGHAGHAHGHAHGHAHGHHAGHAHGHAHHGHAGHAGH.
I can't call it bad writing since it's completely within Knuckle's character to do something that fucking stupid… and out of the whole attack party, Killua's probably the only one who would be willing to sacrifice an ally for the greater good in the first place. (and if said ally is Gon, you can even cross him out)Shit like this makes me want to have an aneurysm so the brainhurt wil go away... agh.
Togashi > Oda when it comes to completely unexpected plot developments, without a doubt.
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lol,
knickle is epic fail.
I dont really care how so many lame characters there are in the raid when all you need is the 4 protagonists.
i say 4 because leorio=1/2 and killua=1 and 1/2
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so….is there anything cool about this show. I've been debating watching this but just haven't had the motivation. Someone can show me a clip or somethinf interesting?
Yes.. i could just look it up but I'm too lazy and godful for that. If someone does it, I'll mail you a box of snickerdoodles. whatever the hell those are
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Maybe the spiders will come into the picture? Didn't Phinks say that some of the older members of the Spiders were contemplating whether to go fight the REAL queen? Just wondering, cuz the protagonists are absolutely fucked right now. This is the worst possible situation for them. Netero's sorta screwed too. I've always wanted the King to just blow the shit out of one of the Royal Guards in one blow though. Maybe if one of the Guards tries to interfere with the fight the King will kill them? I don't know. This chapter changed EVERYTHING.
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Ok, are you people discussing spoiler crap or what? Or is 289 already out somewhere?
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Spoilers…
The main part of the chapter which is shocking everyone right now will be in a spoiler tag under me, so don't click if you don't want to read.! Knuckle cancels Potclean
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So…anyone gonna buy the new Viz DVD? I will try it out, but I don't trust Viz, please don't give Kurapika a dude voice, viz, oh AND they are pronouncing Leorio Wrong.
I wish I could talk about the manga here, but I read the Viz translations, and I still don't have vol. 23
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And though they didn't know what nen was, they were still using it because they were made up of nen-using humans.
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Chicken or egg paradox is a paradox.Could you please provide some kind of proof or indication of this or atleast a logical reasoning (that isn't seriously flawed) for it?
If they can't beat nen users without being nenusers themselves how could the ants feed nen using humans to the queen to make the nen using ants you talk about in the first place? :sad:
In my Opinion: The reason someone not using nen can't win over a nen user is because no normal human can have such a huge natural advantage compared to any other human that the laters nen isn't enough to compensate and overcome the difference. Especially not in the celestial tower where everone knows how to fight in the first place.
However animals are a completly different matter. Hunters aren't invicible against all the wildlife all over the world. The pet guarding Killias familys door, numerous monsters on Greed island that weren't using nen etc proves that.
Chimera Ants has a huge natural advantage over humans due to them incorporating different abilities of spicies they eat as well as naturally being stronger then Humans.A Chimera ant that is not using Nen, not even subconsiously, may very well be equal to or stronger then a nen using human (that lacks training). So we are debating: Hypothetically wouldn't Yupis natural chimera ant strenght (after going bankrupt on nen) be enough to still hurt Morau (marginally if he still had nen) and possibly kill him as he seems to be severely weakened atm.
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So…anyone gonna buy the new Viz DVD? I will try it out, but I don't trust Viz, please don't give Kurapika a dude voice, viz, oh AND they are pronouncing Leorio Wrong.
I wish I could talk about the manga here, but I read the Viz translations, and I still don't have vol. 23
Yup, already ordered it, just waiting for it to arrive.
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I'm getting the DVD for Christmas. Supposively the dub is sort of average and every once and a while there are film blotches on the screen. It got a B+ grade.
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I nearly dropped my laptop when I read that spoiler. Fucking
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Awesome, I'm about to preorder it next week.
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My point was that characters who can't use nen are considered terrible and anyone can beat them, and as the arcs have gone on the difference has gotten larger and larger. They've talked about things like "he uses no nen as defese so the attack just hit his body" so the atack severly damages them. If somebody at this level couldn't use nen, they'd e really screwed. They can still sorta fight, they become "vulnerable". Like how when Gon was beaten by Knuckle's ability the end of the match wasn't even shown.
The ants learned how to use nen at some point by eating weaker humans, or else were born from the queen using power she gathered from eatings lots of normal humans. You'll have to go back and reread parts of the series if you want proof of it.As for the spoilers, yeah, it's annoying. I read it first cause I translated it. My guess is either A-> something happens in the next chapter indicating how the hell they could win now or B-> everybody dies/they make friends with the ants.
It did say in an earlier chapter, 281, that someone would fight on par with Yupi, but not yet, while Killua attacked him. So, makes me think it's the former.
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so….is there anything cool about this show. I've been debating watching this but just haven't had the motivation. Someone can show me a clip or something interesting?
Yes.. i could just look it up but I'm too lazy and godful for that. If someone does it, I'll mail you a box of snickerdoodles. whatever the hell those are
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My point was that characters who can't use nen are considered terrible and anyone can beat them, and as the arcs have gone on the difference has gotten larger and larger. They've talked about things like "he uses no nen as defese so the attack just hit his body" so the atack severly damages them. If somebody at this level couldn't use nen, they'd e really screwed. They can still sorta fight, they become "vulnerable". Like how when Gon was beaten by Knuckle's ability the end of the match wasn't even shown.
The ants learned how to use nen at some point by eating weaker humans, or else were born from the queen using power she gathered from eatings lots of normal humans. You'll have to go back and reread parts of the series if you want proof of it.As for the spoilers, yeah, it's annoying. I read it first cause I translated it. My guess is either A-> something happens in the next chapter indicating how the hell they could win now or B-> everybody dies/they make friends with the ants.
It did say in an earlier chapter, 281, that someone would fight on par with Yupi, but not yet, while Killua attacked him. So, makes me think it's the former.
You are still talking about ants like they are normal humans without any natural defensive abilities like toughene skin/armored insect carapace (and various offensive). Since I can't seem to get the idea that there is a difference in what a human starts with and a chimera ant starts with across to you I guess we will have to agree to disagree on tthe point of a chimera ants natural strenght versus a nenuser.
Example of Gon commenting on the difference between ant and human: http://www.onemanga.com/Hunter_X_Hunter/193/03/But the only ants that were born with the ability to use nen are the royal guards. (Seeing nen and using nen is far from the same thing.)
All the other ants had to be babtised (by the rabbit guy Killua and Gon faced, and later got killed by Killua).
the baptizing of division leaders and squad captains:
http://www.onemanga.com/Hunter_X_Hunter/198/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/Hunter_X_Hunter/198/06/