There's some SBS info leaking around already. Nothing too interesting, and not real translations, just general info, but here it is:
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RE: Volume 106 Predictions/Discussion
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RE: Chapter 1110: Starfall
@hideoushorrendous said in Chapter 1110: Starfall:
He didn't even honor his hero with the cover page like he did with Kishi
Toriyama's death was announced March 8th. At that point, Ch 1110 was already being printed. It's very likely Ch 1111 was also finished at that point, and its colorspread was probably done way earlier. If there's any homage to Toriyama this week, it will have been added at the last moment.
It's more likely that JUMP will celebrate Toriyama in the issue after next one. Oda will probably draw something there.
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RE: Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World)
@danie I don't ignore any of that, but I do check which events the story is spending time on.
You can see in every interaction that Yamato like Luffy to the point of worship.
But the story has spent no time showing Luffy's friendship with Yamato. That relationship was almost entirely build up off-screen.
That's a clue that the story emphasized Yamato's bonding with Momo way more.
There's a trope in fiction called Law of Conservation of Detail. In essence, what the story actually spends time and effort to flesh out is usually what's important to its resolution. Details that are skipped are more often than not less important, thus that's why there's no need to develop them.
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RE: Chapter 1061: Future Island Egghead
I think Vegapunk is a self-absorbed jerk.
Not evil, not willing to hurt people for nothing, still under some ethics.
But what he cares about is proving himself. He sets a goal, he will lose sight of everything else.
Like, why did he fix the climate in Egghead but not Baldimore? Because all he wanted was prove to himself he could. So, once his work was done in Egghead, he totally forgot Baldimore and went on to other endeavors. That's pretty much what I expect him to be.
Likewise, I think he will challenge the SHs because it's an opportunity to test his inventions against real targets. They are pirates, who care? This is the chance to prove the power of his creations!
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RE: Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World)
Merch is a very poor meter to see who would join. We had it work only once, with the Jinbe coin, and never before or again. Plus, it only worked on the Jinbe coin because the coins for the Straw Hats were gold-colored, and Jinbe was the only non-SH that got a golden coin. It clearly put Jinbe in the same level as the Straw Hats. Sometimes, I think it was a gambit of the company, much like the Yamato towel probably was, and not the result of insider knowledge.
Popular characters seel merch. Merch companies will do anything to boots sales. Shueisha and Toei will too. Yamato's debut in the anime came with a ton of merch, enough to make anyone think Yamato was sure going to be a crewmate. Yamato also got an anniversary post in the official Instagram, something only Straw Hats had gotten so far. But it came right during the full season of Yamato hype.
So, don't trust merch.
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RE: Chapter 1073: Miss Buckingham Stussy
@Coookie I don't think there are more.
From a storytelling perspective, I feel the Seraphim are meant to represent the Warlords that the crew wouldn't fight anyway (thought Mihawk is debatable), so it's a way of showing how they'd fare against the crew.
From a in-story perspective, there are probably reasons why there aren't more of them. Maybe:
- There was just no time and money for more
- Doflamingo's may have been veto'ed because he has celestial blood.
- Moria may have been considered too weak and not worth the effort
- Crocodile may have been discarded because they couldn't replicate his logia power, and giving a clone anything else would potentially be subpar, as a fast-grown clone wouldn't have "genetic memory" to use it properly.
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RE: Yamato (spoilers for anime-only watchers and those not caught up with the manga)
The real question is why Oda kept teasing readers while knowing Yamato wasn’t meant to join the crew.
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RE: Chapter 1083: The Truth of That Day
Some details about the timeline:
- Ch 925 says the Revolutionary attack happened in the 4th (of 7) day of Reverie.
- Ch 956 has the "Alabasta incident" soon after the Reverie closed.
- Ch 1054 places the attack hours before the incident.
- Ch 1083 has the attack coming "during the Reverie", confirming Ch 925. Also, everything is in place for Cobra's death to happen soon, as in Ch 1054.
So, was Garp's info wrong?
Maybe it wasn't Oda's mistake, rather Cobra's death was hidden until the Reverie ended?
Another small detail most will miss: this helps us clarify the time passed since Luffy woke up.
- The Revolutionary attack happened in the 4th day of Reverie.
- 10 days later (7 after Reverie), there was the Onigashima raid.
- Luffy and Zoro woke up another 7 days later. Big party.
- Then the Straw Hats stayed in Wano for "a few days" before leaving.
- Then, we got another "a few days later" between them leaving and reaching Egghead.
This means the two small timeskips must have been at least 13 days in sum, but it probably took a bit more. Something between 2 and 3 weeks?
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RE: Volume 105 Predictions/Discussion
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I believe Shimotsuki history will keep being developed in both Wano and the Revolutionary storyline.
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SBS hints that Sanji's whirlbrow shenanigans will keep being relevant
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I still think extending Wano for one more chapter to cover some questions (like Tama's lineage, Yamato's resolution, Carrot's farewell) would have benefitted the overall story
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I like the simplicity of Zoro's lineage. Not everyone needs famous fathers.
I'd love to know more about the Roronoa side of the story. Also, Zoro's mother Tera seems like she has an interesting history.
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RE: Chapter 1098: Bonney's Birth
@kevo_koma said in Chapter 1098: Bonney's Birth:
Also, who do you guys Bonney's true dad is?
I don't think the dad will be important, but if it must be a known character, I'd say only Saturn or Garling make sense right now.
@kevo_koma said in Chapter 1098: Bonney's Birth:
Just a quick question, what's the point of assistants if its not to cover for stuff like this?
Assistants also need time. If Oda is late, the work they can do before deadline is limited.
I think the heavy emotions in this chapter slowed Oda down. This was a painful read, and I bet it was a painful work to create as well.
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@access-timeco said in Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent:
As I see it, it's less about how it affects the events in Egghead and more about a narrative choice to bring the new Emperors to the front as the new protagonists.
I mean, both Shanks and Cross Guild scenes could have played out before Egghead starts. Make them inter-arc stuff.
I'm still on the fence if all the Blackbeard stuff shouldn't be moved outside the arc as well. It's kinda parallel to events in the arc but doesn't contribute to its plot.
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@Kitsune-Inferno Sure, it may be the objective, but it should still have a basic story. Or else, why not just make it an inter-arc event? It's one thing to spend a volume setting up the final saga. It's another when you make an arc that is about to reach the size of Sabaody, Amazon Lily and Impel Down together.
There's a huge structural problem here because while the objective is to set up a ton of things, we still need to have a cohesive story tying all together. There's a lot of elements in Egghead that could be moved, trimmed or modified in order to produce a better flowing narrative.
This is not even a new critique, even back at the cutaways I was pointing out how the Kid/Shanks and Cross Guild segments would have been better if happened before the arc started, as to not interrupt it, and at the time I was (and still am) questioning if the Garp segment wouldn't also be better placed in another moment. (No complains about the Reverie segment, it adds nicely to the arc, tying the Mother Flame, the Elders, Imu and the Revolutionaries to it).
Likewise, the entire traitor/Seraphim segment could have been simplified. People say it was "boring", which I don't agree, but by saying so they admit the arc is flawed. Why introduce a "boring" plotline?
There's a huge number of elements that were introduced in the arc and then relegated to nuisances that can be off-screened for several chapters and then resolved in one go when they are no longer needed to stall the heroes. CP-0, York, the Seraphim, and the Vice-admirals all fall in that trap. Kizaru is a bit better because he does get two chapters to fight, but then he's still victim to the same device. And later he gets up, and the trick is done a second time with him.
The current climax is also flawed as hell. Its conflict just doesn't work, and the broadcast could very well be revealed while something more tense and interesting than villains hunting snails happens in present time. Juxtaposing a better conflict to the broadcasted revelations would enhance the scene greatly.
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@Zanze said in Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent:
I'd wait until the arc is over to judge.
Well:
@Deicide said in Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent:
I want to wait the arc's end before passing final judgement, but considering it's at least 80% done, I'll say what I think:
We can judge what we have so far. If things change, then opinions change with them. But it's more and more likely the arc is ending very soon, and I doubt there's time to wrap up everything. A lot of these threads will be left to be resolved in the future, which would be fine, if they were woven together better in the tapestry of the arc.
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@Dahaka said in Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent:
You just listed events that happen in an arc.
No, I showed how the narrative flows and uses all the elements to build a climax.
Tell me what importance Buggy had in Egghead, and yet we spent a chapter with Cross Guild. Or Shanks beating Kid. Or the entire Garp sequence. Or Teach beating Law.
What about the whole York/Seraphim plot being offscreened?
What of the protagonists having almost no drive on the plot?
What about building Kuma’s flashback around Saturn, only for Saturn to go do others things and not interacting with Kuma/Bonney anymore?
Egghead’s threads don’t tie together, it’s a mess of events and wasted elements that do not flow from one to another.
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@Dahaka Sabaody is a perfectly fine narrative:
- We arrive at Red Line and don’t know how to go further
- We save Keimi and Hatchi and they know how to go further.
- We go to Sabaody for ship coating.
- Sabaody is where strong captains gather because it’s the end of the Grand Line’s 1st half.
- It’s also visited by World Nobles because Mary Geoise and Marine HQ are nearby.
- We learn of slabery (remember having to save Keimi and Hatchi). Keimi is kidnapped.
- We go save Keimi, beat a World Noble. Met the coater who turns out is a big figure (Rayleigh)
- Rayleigh teases future developments
- A marine admiral is dispatched because we beat a World Noble (as explained prior)
- Admiral beats strong captains to show he’s the shit.
- Admiral beats the crew. Raylrigh and Kuma save the crew. The crew still loses and is spread apart. The end.
Sabaody didn’t bloat to a whooping 60 chapters l, nor it stop to show events unrelated to it, nor it conflicts resolved offscreen, nor it had a big flashback in the middle dor a character that would disappear after it, plus it had great tension the likes of which we haven’t seen since. It was a great, short, narratively cohesive arc.
And you are crazy if you think there was no hype for a Kizaru confrontation, from Luffy proclaiming it 500 chapters ago, to Egghead itself teasing it.
Also, the author can’t control every reader’s expectations, but he does generate expectations on purpose. It’s on him when those aren’t met.
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@King-Cannon I understand the urge to attack the message to not acknowledge the message, but I’m not talking about myself, it’s about the general reaction, we are all human beings. For instance, Egghead is the arc that delivered the much-awaited fight with Kizaru, something built up over 600 chapters, and it ended up being one the worst fights in the series. Egghead is holding on this promise of awesomeness but, much like Yamato not joining the crew in Wano, it’s more and more likely to not deliver it.
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@King-Cannon said in Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent:
Also, from what I've seen online, most people seem to love Egghead. It's the opposite with Wano, which is always more negatively thought off.
That’s because Wano ended and all the hype died down. Wait for Egghead’s turn.
A lot of satisfaction from reading weekly is the thrill of waiting what comes next. You have a whole week to overanyze things and make hundreds of cool scenarios that surely the story will surpass. Then it ends and a lot of that was just in your head, and you need to check out what you actually got. That’s when people start weighting the bad and the good.
I feel Egghead won’t be remembered as fondly as it was experienced.
@King-Cannon said in Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent:.
For Egghead, my perception is that people like it better, with many citing the outside events as highlights. It does seem like there's a general fan interest on what's happening around the world instead of just the immediate surroundings of the SH.
Inter-arc stuff was always awesome to see because it moves the world and the narrative fast-forward.
Egghead is a bloated inter-arc that has the crew in it to justify its size. The outside stuff is fun, but the arc itself is flawed as hell.
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@King-Cannon said in Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent:
The arc was deliberately designed to serve the world before the protagonists.
Being deliberately designed doesn't make it good. To me, it's an extremely flawed arc that should at least have been shorter. Also, it's not a matter of this being the best that could be done with the objective Oda set for it, because I feel there are some adjustments here and there that could have enhanced the experience greatly. This is either the editor's fault, or Oda's flat-out ignoring his editor.
(And let’s not forget that after Wano Shueisha, Toei and Oda started hyping Egghead as a great jump-on point in the series.)
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
@Alfiere I want to wait the arc's end before passing final judgement, but considering it's at least 80% done, I'll say what I think: this has been the worst arc in One Piece, and the only thing holding it together is that it brings back and ties together several elements from the previous 20 years of story.
If you analyze the arc on its own, the plot in it, the characterization... man, this is a terrible terrible arc for newcomers.
- The protagonists are extremely passive
- The plot is moving on autopilot, almost not needing the protagonists to run on its own
- The villains have been extremely bland
- The narrative is not cohesive, often cutting to stuff that barely has any relation to the main plot, and also relying on reaction shots from elsewhere
- The fights have been few, all really rushed and often off-screened for most of their length.
- Terrible tension management
- The setting has been terribly underused
- The themes are all over the place. The arc can't decide if it's about Kuma's tragedy, or Kizaru's relationship with his targets, or Vegapunk's flaws, or Blackbeard's ascension, or the Sabo and the Revolutionaries. The only constant threads that try to tie everything together are Nika, the Void Century and the Ancient Weapons.
- And we have a climax about... overpowered immortal elders failing to find a snail.
Now imagine someone who's not following the series for 20 years and decides to see what's about... He doesn't know who 90% of the characters are, he has no emotional ties to the locations shown, all he knows is a bit about the main cast. The arc's structure is just so so bad!
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RE: Chapter 1115: Pieces of a Continent
I just remembered Ju Peter has done jack shit so far, lol.