I don't understand why the series would suddenly privilege anger when the entire red universe fights have been about Toriko having 'wild fights' where anger is not involved, simply survival. Do folks in the black cell universe fight endlessly until it 'gets personal' and then the fighter with the most angst eats the loser?
Posts made by tim
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RE: Toriko III: It's Over!!
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RE: Toriko III: It's Over!!
Maybe we are entering the Gourmet World Night Arc? Although, it is very strange that we have not receieved any more of those 'menu item' cells that denote a new arc's beginning; like, we are technically still in the ANOTHER arc
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RE: Toriko III: It's Over!!
Nope… So far we've only seen Midora, Alfaro, Star and Chiyo who defected.
Jeez. Looks like the entire Otake-Komatsu plotline is gone.
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RE: Toriko III: It's Over!!
What happened to Otake? Have we seen him at all post-timeskip?
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RE: Terra ForMars
Is there a consistent release schedule from the scan laters? It's feels as though there are a lot of untranslated chapters (the raw's and/or Chinese scans) that are being translated quickly now. I think three chapters have been released in the span of a week or two? Are we just really far behind?
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RE: Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
! Right, I am not saying that all characters and their powers should be given 3 chapters+, I am just concerned that relatively (in that they were able to move about the GW freely and had very high level titles) important characters (much like Boneless, the bubblegum guy, and Shigematsu) will not be detailed. I mean, the sudden animal characteristics of a member of the Oth, the top ranked Human world chef, a Human World National Treasure, and the former Bishokaki's top scientist just feels like end of series information/battles. I get that Toriko is not at One Piece levels of sales or popularity, but Bleach's current arc has been rambling on for almost two years without much sign of slowing (even in the midst of horrible sales, likely worse). I just don't want Toriko to end prematurely like other good shonen: yu yu hakusho, hitman reborn, etc.
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RE: Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
! To clarify, we are seeing now a lot of the final villans and their powers are not being explained; I mean for example: I never really considered that JoeJoe would have an appetite demon/monster inside; that feels very much like something that was going to be revealed as a surprise later on in the series. What I am trying to say is that it feels as though Mitsutoshi is being rushed to finish the series in the same way the Hitman Reborn was rushed to its end: A final villan briefly introduced and then defeated by some poorly fleshed-out flaw (an issue I have been having with Blech (not a typo) lately).
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RE: Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
I am getting really scared now… I don't want Toriko to be cut short like Hitman Reborn
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RE: Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
So what ever happened to Grinpatch and Alfaro? I kinda liked those guys…
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RE: Chapter 795: Suicide
I don't think he has a devil fruit power; the marines like to use kairosaki cuffs of df users and since kaidou has escaped from the marines 9 times it seems as though he has some other physical ability that makes him unkillable– although (and I'm not a fan of the idea but it still must be mentioned) can he escape the birdcage?
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RE: Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
So where are Grinpatch and Alfaro?
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RE: Chapter 776: The Colosseum Hero
Here is a thought: can Doflamingo make small, person-sized birdcages?
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RE: Chapter 776: The Colosseum Hero
A potential justification for the rampant one-shotting: the doflamingo pirates have gotten old, fat, lazy, and overconfident. That was the point of laws speech to doflami go on punk hazard. The doflamingo pirates have just been sitting on their hands while the new generation has been training and getting stronger; this is particularly visible when you compare the flashback doflamingo family to the present day family (notice how machine, jiola, and señor pink in particular where much more toned and combat ready).
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RE: Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
You know, I always forget that Shima's new editor was Oda's old one….
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RE: Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
I think that the kind of games that Bambina played with the Toriko etc. is a hint for how Pair will be obtained. Similar to the Meteor Garlic arc, where the only way (absent taking on 100+ people and whatever other tricks the Underworld Cooks had) was to play the card game with Livebearer, the Kings will get Pair by kicking or knocking-off Bambina's balls (probably with some schoolyard tactic in the same vein as the games we saw earlier). As for whether or not they will grow back, I think that Enbu might be the solution to that problem, even though, its regenerative properties have not been entirely explained (but if a newcomer could regrow his head, then I highly doubt that the Enbu King would be unable to grow his balls back).
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RE: One Piece Chapter 766: Smile
Not sure if anyone else has posted this, but the chapter where Law defeats Vergo is called SAD, which really gives some perspective considering 766's title is SMILE.
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RE: One Piece Chapter 766: Smile
I think it would be interesting to see a dying Law preform the immortality surgery on Luffy either near the end of this arc or sometime near the end of the story to offset all of the years Luffy has lost (from Ivankov's hormones and the constant use of Gear 2 & 3).
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RE: Chapter 765: Minion, the Island of Fate
Has anyone else mentioned this panel from Sabondy http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2605-18/one-piece/chapter-498.html . I feel like we are about to understand its relevance really soon.
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RE: Chapter 761: The Ope Ope no Mi
Does anyone have the translation for the second story on the cover page (the one by the picture of the buildings)?
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RE: Toriko II: Ichiryuu's Slimy Insides!!
What do you all think about the idea that Teppei's wood arm is much like Toriko's arm? That is to say, Teppei's inner demon is some kind of wood monster and the reason Teppei was able to block Toriko's attack is because Teppei's demon arm is capable of fighting Toriko's red oni?
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RE: Chapter 755: World of Men
As I was rereading the arc, I saw this comment that Doflamingo made (on the bottom right panel)http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/725/7 and figured that it was a pretty fine representation of how I feel about the last ten chapters or so.
** I know that mangapanda blows, but it's what I was using at the time.
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RE: One Piece Chapter 745: Birdcage
I am unsure if this has already been discussed, but how do people keep making things out of seastone? Isn't it supposed to be the hardest substance in the world and unbreakable? I mean I guess they could break seastone with seastone, but I am just so confused as to how someone was able to make handcuffs, let alone buildings with such a hard material (harder than diamonds even).
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RE: Oda's INSPIRATION for One Piece
While Oda may not have been inspired by this, I think that it is pretty cool nonetheless:
Although at the end, the guy thinks that the weapon was inspired by a rhinocerous beetle.
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RE: One Piece Chapter 742 - I'll always be close to you
Unsure if this comparison has been made yet, but I was thinking about the "luck" aspect of SOP's success and it reminded me a lot of the Edd War, where the man who would later become the pirate king was vastly outnumbered by Shiki's fleet, fought anyways, and was able to survive and continue on his journey thanks to a freak storm. Obviously this does not mean that I am suggesting that Usopp is something like Roger, but rather, that the Pirate King himself (and now Luffy) tends to benefit from quite a bit of luck, which might give more credibility to Sugar's defeat.
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RE: One Piece Chapter 740 - Please!!!
I think Usopp will accidentally run into the SMILE factory and realize that it is the perfect environment for him to strike back (because it is full of plants, and that is his new thing/battle style) against probably Sugar (I think Kinemon and Kanjuro will be Trebol's opponents). As for Robin, I think that her transformation will give her the chance to do a similar type of uninterrupted exploring (like when she went into the Kelp Forrest in Fishman Island) where she will discover something probably related to the Ancient Kingdom, Manshelly the Dwarf Princess, Dressrosa's relationship to Green Bit, Jaya, the Tontattas, and the Fighting Fish, or Doflamingo's family history.
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RE: Chapter 739: Captain
I have this feeling that in the near future (1-3 chapters) Trebol will have subdued Ussop and Robin (because they lack haki) and will attempt to set them on fire/blow them up like the dwarves. This would set the stage nicely for Kinemon to come in and save them (like he did at Punk Hazard) in his search for Kanjuro (who is in the Toy House somewhere); Trebol and Sugar vs Kinemon (who can use COA, if I remember correctly), Ussop, and Robin would be a much more interesting battle scene.
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RE: Chapter 738: "Trebol Army, Special Executive Sugar"
I think this chapter highlights how incredible of a marksman Yassop is because he was doing what Trebol did in the East Blue, maybe even better because ants are usually smaller than flies.
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RE: Chapter 736: " Executive Officer Diamante"
I wonder if Diamante is going to use his power on the floor…? I feel like that would make things very difficult for everyone else if the floor was constantly moving. As for why Diamante would not have a problem with the floor rippling, he would keep solid the place that he was standing. I almost could imagine him making the floor attack the others (like spiking upwards and shit in the style of the Corrida Glave) while he stays stationary.
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RE: Chapter 736: " Executive Officer Diamante"
Right, I think that people were unhappy with a character who has not shown very much physical prowess as many would like being so successful against opponents who appear much more capable warrior. I am unsure about whether or not she was hated in Japan, but I would not be surprised if people there were disappointed in the result.
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RE: Chapter 736: " Executive Officer Diamante"
newhh, Oda makes whatever he wants with his manga, we don't wanted Ace to die but Od killed him anyways. the winners of the blocks were something that it was already written. if fans do or do not like the results it's not Oda's business, he made Cabagge lose but still make him look like a badass. he always manages the manga to give every fan what they want to see in the series. which makes that "message" to be a totally impossible thing to happen.
I do not think that I am suggesting that Oda is relying on the fans for creative cues or that he particularly cares what the fans think about his creative decisions( in that he is always trying to be popular with the fans), but rather he is defending his decisions. I know that it may seem like I was suggesting that his response was directed at AP forum people, but I was suggesting the fans as a whole– many of whom seem to be having trouble accepting the result. This is to say that he (or his editor who would have a better understanding of the fan base) probably expected a negative reaction to the result from the fans and decided to use a character who should only have malicious and murderous intentions toward Rebecca (Diamante) to reinforce that he, Oda, is the author and that we should just move on with the story.
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RE: Chapter 736: " Executive Officer Diamante"
I don't think so. at this moment Oda is highly probable working on chapter 740, while chapters 737, 738 and 739 are already at Shueisha's hands, they're just waiting for the dates to publish those chapters. there's no way Oda could predict Becca would have a bunch of haters around her by simple making her win block D, so nope, what happened between Diamond and those random guys it's something that its been happening all the time since One piece started at 1997.
You are correct about Oda having written the chapter a little while ago, however, I do think that because D block lasted for a slightly lengthy amount of time (not in terms of coverage, but in terms of when it began (721 or 722, take your pick) he could gauge the fan's reaction to the character (her winning or losing). Also, he does have an editor who probably talks with him about these things (sales and all that) which would suggest that he would have been aware that the character was not "popular". Additionally, Oda has oftentimes waited until his deadline to produce a chapter, for example, the final scene with the cremation of the Merry, which creates a substantial possibility that he just inserted the comments in as not just a plot device, but also a message to the fans. Edit: (ie, the fodder were there anyways but their reason for challenging the ruling was different than "it was simply not fair" rather than "we hate Rebecca it is not fair that she won because she is weak, boring, and lame")
Edit 2: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/220921/one-piece_ch736_by_powermanga/4
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RE: Chapter 736: " Executive Officer Diamante"
Nope, Oda always put random characters on the way of someone stronger, just to show us what their hability is, just like what happened at the bar where Issho were gambling.
Well, I think that you are correct in terms of identifying a common form that Oda uses for power exposition, but it is likely that due to the announcer or Diamante's rather garish attitude, that we would have still gotten that information in this chapter or the next Colossium scene. Oda tends to layer this story with gentle nudges at the fan base, for example, with the Sui-Sui no mi (being a swimming fruit, not a water logia), his wry information delivery in SBS, and the societal themes that he critiques. Yes, these things may not all be examples of Oda talking indirectly to the fans about a plot point, but they do suggest that he is conscious of the fans' reactions and existence as an audience.
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I hate Rebeca and I didn't catch the hidden message, can you please tell me where it is, so I can decode it
I figured it was in the losers from block D coming back to the arena to complain about her winning.
Edit: Here is the page:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/220921/one-piece_ch736_by_powermanga/4
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RE: Chapter 736: " Executive Officer Diamante"
Have not read this here yet, so apologies if it has been noted already:
I was thinking about how useless it was for Oda to bring back those block D people (I think that the fighting fish and Diamante's power would have been introduced by the announcer or himself anyways in this chapter), and then I realized their purpose:
Oda is telling the people (fans of OP) who did not like Rebecca winning block D to just get over it and move on; what's done is done.
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RE: General Blackbeard Thread
@LordEnel:
marineford is no longer there, sorry man. :P
I just checked, the island was never destroyed and Marineford was rebuilt. Akainu simply moved headquarters to G-1 in the New World.
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RE: General Blackbeard Thread
Unsure if this has already been observed, but I was thinking about the whole Luffy destroying Fishman Island thing, and I remembered this scene from Marineford:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/17701/o…franky-house/7
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-48478-…apter-578.html
I feel like there are three things that are important here:
The first, is that Teach probably knows about the Will of D. I think that this is true because he is aware of Roger’s legacy and historical relevance. He has been around since Roger found Raftel, and with his already well-demonstrated information finding abilities, it would seem that he knows what the D’s are meant to do.
With this knowledge in mind, I think that it is very likely that the final battle might be at Marineford because Sengoku comments on not only that Marineford is the center of the world, but also that it’s physical location is essential for the survival of the World Government’s Justice.
Sengoku: “The true meaning lies in our position in this place…”
It is also important to note the speed at which Sengoku reacted to Teach’s desire to sink the base. Obviously, sinking it would kill many Marines and destroy infrastructure, but I feel that Sengoku’s comments present a deeper meaning than just saving an institution and its followers. The emphasis placed upon saving an ideal seems much too primary than just saving an important marine foothold.
With that said, I think it is fair to suggest that while it seems necessary that Mariejoa and Fishman Island be destroyed, I think that the island with the most importance is Marineford. It is the center of the world and it’s position and potential magnetic qualities could explain the Calm Belt and the weather of the New World. I also think that Marineford is the site for Sea Stone mining, this would explain the government’s near- monopolistic access to the material.
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RE: [Theory] The Inherited Will, "One Piece"
Unsure if this has already been observed, but I was thinking about the whole Luffy destroying Fishman Island thing, and I remembered this scene from Marineford:
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/17701/one-piece_ch578_by_franky-house/7
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-48478-6/one-piece/chapter-578.html
I feel like there are three things that are important here:
The first, is that Teach probably knows about the Will of D. I think that this is true because he is aware of Roger’s legacy and historical relevance. He has been around since Roger found Raftel, and with his already well-demonstrated information finding abilities, it would seem that he knows what the D’s are meant to do.
With this knowledge in mind, I think that it is very likely that the final battle might be at Marineford because Sengoku comments on not only that Marineford is the center of the world, but also that it’s physical location is essential for the survival of the World Government’s Justice.
Sengoku: “The true meaning lies in our position in this place…”
It is also important to note the speed at which Sengoku reacted to Teach’s desire to sink the base. Obviously, sinking it would kill many Marines and destroy infrastructure, but I feel that Sengoku’s comments present a deeper meaning than just saving an institution and its followers. The emphasis placed upon saving an ideal seems much too primary than just saving an important marine foothold.
With that said, I think it is fair to suggest that while it seems necessary that Mariejoa and Fishman Island be destroyed, I think that the island with the most importance is Marineford. It is the center of the world and it’s position and potential magnetic qualities could explain the Calm Belt and the weather of the New World. I also think that Marineford is the site for Sea Stone mining, this would explain the government’s near- monopolistic access to the material.
Anyways, I know that was kind of long, but I would really like to hear what you all think about this. -
RE: Chapter 732: "The Underground World"
thanks man .. but now we have 3 different translations
i'd be glad if someone knows japanese confirms it from the official raw
cause people have been ranting about this on another forumThis is the closest translation from the raw that we are probably going to get because it is Stephen's translation (which makes it the official one I guess).
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RE: Chapter 732: "The Underground World"
I have the translation for it from the online Viz Alpha thing:
"and isn't it your job to help save member countries of the world government?"
So it probably means that Dressrosa is one of the countries administered by the World Government.
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RE: General 'Haki' Discussion
I think that I may have found the relevance of the Prodence Kingdom to the storyline….
Elizibello is the king of the Prodence kingdom and is capable of delivering a single “King Punch” that is reportedly strong enough to take down a Yonkou — if it is a direct hit that is not nullified by a devil fruit ability (a la Bartolomeo).
When Elizibello releases the punch, it is almost if the air is cracking and shockwaves are being sent out:
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/709/14
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/709/15
This seems very familiar–
Air Cracking:
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2541-15/one-piece/chapter-434.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/716/18
Shockwaves:
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/716/18
I think what all of this is suggesting is that Elizabello not only has COC, but has trained it to a point where he can concentrate it and release it as a shockwave type of punch. This would make COC more useful when battling non-foder characters.
I am not suggesting that Luffy and other strong characters have not received this training already, or have not trained in a fashion so that punches like this are possible. I think that this was just a taste of things to come with COC as we have been teased with it being mentioned at the end of Punk Hazard and now with Don Quinjao. It is very possible that Elizibello’s King Punch (Color of Conquering “King”) was just a fraction of what more powerful characters can do- as seen by Whitebeard’s skirmish with Shanks.In consultation with another person, this brings up a question about Fishmen and Fishman Karate
It is possible, though this is purely speculation, that fishmen cannot use haki in the same purposeful fashion that humans can because they are a superior evolution to humanity, and as such, haki is built into all of their attacks (when performed explicitly through Fishman Karate, not like a fishman punching a human randomly). I think this is why Jimbe was able to injure Luffy during their spat in the Sea Kelp Forrest right before the battle at Gyancorde Plaza.
This would explain why some of Hody Jones’s attacks launched sea water-it is important that we understand that it was water from the ocean- (the natural enemy of devil fruit users at his opponents).
Additionally, this would explain why Fishmen are much better fighters than the average human- as seen clearly in the difference between Arlong and the people he subjugated in East Blue. Their ability to react, dodge, and attack all show a genetic mastery of COO and their ability to damage Luffy – a devil fruit user- with Fishman Karate suggests that Fishmen Karate users may use haki attacks naturally, ie without thinking about doing it on purpose.
This would explain why some of Hack and Jimbe’s attacks resemble COC and COA attacks in form and effect.
As to whether or not this was a boxing technique, I think that due to the nature of the attack- something that needed to charge (a lot like COC haki pre-time skip, ie it was only activated once Luffy’s psyche had charged enough trauma, and Rayleigh’s commentary about how you cannot use COC frequently (ie spamming it every five minutes) because it takes time to charge). A boxing technique is what Ideo performed– the king punch was something much deeper, due to the nature of the charging routine and the user.
I think that this is also why we never got to see the Fishmen Dojo because we will not learn about these facets of haki until the Strawhats until they come back to Fishman Island.
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RE: Chapter 715: "Close Contest C-Block"
CCC or Aohige, could we please get more detail on the word "Happou"– is it part of the navy's name, or is it possessive indicating that there is either someone or someplace named "Happou"?
Thanks