@Verilance:

That because his posts are made up of lies that he has repeated so often he has convinced himself that they are true.

I have stopped arguing with him now because seriously it is like arguing with a child.

…......I remember your name from OMF

@Retardia:

Somebody already called him "Sheo". But i didn't know its true or not.

I'm not the only one who found a connections here?

Thats funny. Sheonite was talking about Arlong park there…...........Im convinced

I think AGOG is sheonite from onemanga forums
Yes, it makes sense

Those gigantic posts, his way of debating, his nonsensical posts about perona…...,Yes, it makes perfect sense

You know I have read on onemanga that the only reason that sheonite hates boa so much is that it would interfere with his Nami X Luffy fantasy.........

Pathetic right?

@Urouge:

I have a feeling it'll only get better, dude.

For those who may be intimidated by AGOG's long post, I think I've successfully condensed it into something less time consuming before providing my legitimate response.

Hancock and Jinbei are more likely than her though. What's stopping them from joining??

That picture…............That guy looks retarded

I know, that's why I explained HOW Oda makes this happen…

So, unless you can prove my explanation is false, which it isn't because it's just "FORESHADOWING" that leads towards that being true.

Oda DOES it by his own force, not Zoro randomly heads off into the unknown and appears somewhere, Oda makes this consistent for a reason, so it should be looked at...

If you don't know where that stuff is, I can either make one up for you or look for an old post... Tell me about it.

I already have.

You know why I don't see it important?

Because it makes your whole entire "perona has the best chance at joining" argument fail.

It is because it DOESN'T MATTER… That's why. She could be his MOTHER or his WIFE and her chance to join would be ZERO if everything else is the same...

Your whole argument is based on how perona might accomplish this. Now you're saying it doesn't matter?….......,,Kind of makes you seem uncredible doesn't it?

Luffy can invite a freaking ZOMBIE, yet you assume that he has to follow Boa Hancock because of some "friendship" that's totally not serious, to him?

Did that zombie join? You obviously missed that it was a joke.

Everyone that joins luffy either

a. Admires him
b. Thankful to him
c. Became friends

Perona fails to meet any of this. Boa Hancock on the other hand admires luffy AND is his friend. If a charecter that has no relation with luffy, they has 0 chance of joining. Perona never even interacted with luffy

Sorry, case closed. Brook joined without a name, no relationship, and then some…

You are completely wrong. Brook's relationship with luffy started when luffy took him on his ship.Then he helped Straw Hat crew fight Moria.His relationship with luffy reached a climax when brook told luffy about laboon.

What's that say? Same with Chopper… It's pretty obvious that this "relationship" stuff isn't needed.What's needed is "compassion" and that's something that's hard to imagine in her, from the getgo.

Im sorry, but do you even read the manga? Seems to me like you dont. Chopper saved both luffy's and nami's life.

He looked for help, he asked for directions, and he basically got lost and was shown asking for directions…

He never asked directions then. He thought the ship was at grove 1 so he headed there.

Coincidently he reunited with the crew there

So, my point stands true towards every situation… This "luck" argument is just you without the same "deep" analysis that I hold. I am explaining it in detail, you are basically scratching the surface.

As I explained, it doesnt.

The Bold:
Im scratching the surface became its the only thing thats there. Going any deeper and, you will find something completely irrelevant from the substance on the surface

Perona is like a shallow puddle on the side of the road.

The water it-self wich is only few millimeters deep is all the currently known information.
If you go any deeper you'd hit the road,which currently irrelevant

Does this analogy help?

The currently know information on perona are the following

Her DF
She likes "fun"
She's a coward
She doesnt like bugs
She's Naïve
She wants to go back to thriller bark
Her dream is to rule a country of her dreams that is populated by cute zombies
She only works with people she deems "cute"
She likes dark gloomy things

Most of the things that we know about her will prevent her from joining

This is the substance of this "puddle" called parona.Anything else would be outside of it:outside of the manga

Think about this as an author and then try to make that connection, it's obviously fixed or else it wouldn't be connected…if it isn't consistent, then it's false

You just killed your own argument. Connection between Boa Hancock and luffy is much greater and much more consistent.There is no connections between luffy and perona thats shown in the manga. I dont think luffy even met her.That's the only connection that matters. After all its luffy who'll decide who'll join

According to that, Oda is going to have some character help him, and from the known, it's bound to be Perona.

No, its from and according to your speculation that zoro would need perona and that perona would want to join Straw Hat crew

The rest of the replies below this, they are pathetic… Seriously, use your head and compute the plot and take it from a literal approach, not the other way… It's so uneducated

.I have a question, do you even read my posts? What about your own?

Im basing my argument on what actually happened. That's direct as it gets

You're basing you're argument on what might happen and curving it around your personal preferences

That's the most hypocritical statement that I have ever heard

Didn't I already explain that the quote is being misread by you?

How is "Moria, I want to go back" misleading. Im taking the direct literal approach

Here's it again: Moria-sama!! <–- has a grammatical punctuation added onto it, an informal one. The two of them express deep, deeper, and the deepest range of emotions/ tone of the shout. In this sense, she's "outcrying" because of her character and the fact that she's whining... So, according to that grammar, she's NOT in any sense actually showing DESIRE towards being with him, she's more likely saying "HELP!!?!?!" in a loud way, but due to her being on TB for the past ten years, she's basically only able to mention his name in agony.

Second, she's only saying "I don't wanna be here!!" with that whole phrase, which you probably can tell... She's never said anything about going back to Moria, she just wants to literally "GTFO" of there...Yes, the first part is somewhat correct, but she's still going to feel lonely when you factor in the time, the only reason she wants to leave, it's because she's lonely. And for a good week or more... If she follows Zoro, she'll be back to square one, and forced to pick between Zoro again or some random on her own thing...

Obviously, she's a pushover and going to pick him and his crew... Cause they're strong and they basically are able to be "someone" she knows.

I started to read, but then I stopped. This is obvious non-sense

perona wants to go back to thriller bark and was crying for moria. The end

It's like a kid that's been left in a park thats crying "Momy, I want to go home"

Though its under emotional and mental strain, he/her obviously mean it

That's your opinion, she's not even remotely convicted or troubled… She's basically 100% a Shichibukai still and will be unless she does something totally direct.

Yes, its the only one I use. However your whole perona post is an opinion, so I dont want to hear this from you

The rest of the stuff don't matter, it's baseless.

…....sigh,you know, you really fail. Now I know why everybody doesn't like you in this thread

Anyway, that's it for you… I feel like I've answered all of this already, meh... Oh well...

That's it for you too. You have made it evident that perona will not join

@Cyborg_Franky:

to the BB comment you dont know if its gone or not chances are it is but im just saying they made such a big deal about there being a gap in the warlord spot before why kick out another warlord with the kings haki to boot?

to the don comment- so the absence of action is no longer a action? if a cop just watched a women get mugged he technicly had no part in it but its not to say he wasnt there and able to do anything.

to the kuma part - we dont know why he chose to become a robot but we do know that sengoku was mad when he heard the SH's got away and guessed kuma allowed it but took no action against him

and lastly the only person she stood in the way of was smoker to defend luffy the supposed fight with sentamaru was not seen at all so we dont know if it took place and the price or the pacifista??? HA im sure most of these pirates fighting in the war have a much higher bounty then what a few warships are worth lol

we have to remember all this was going on during a WAR to expect everything we saw to be the common knowledge of everyone in the OP world is stupid and two gaps in the schiki spot doesnt look to flattering for the marines id expect them to keep boa purely to keep up their public image like moria

almost all of your arguments are good and unarguable, but thats why we're arguing pure opinion vs pure opinion.You have yours and I have mine. I have already stated why I think my arguments hold truth

However the BB argument is definitely wrong. Those who do not respond to the shichibukai call and fight in the war WILL have their title striped. This IS a fact and WAS stated in the manga. As I said, they threatened Boa Hancock with this.

BB skipped the war and invaded ID….........and did some other things found in the spoiler

@Cyborg_Franky:

i liked everything u said till about here… how do u know she will be stripped of her title?

if BB shows up will he have his title stripped for breaking into ID?

If you think World Government, who only cooperates with pirates out of necessity would let a traitor pirate run free then you keep thinking that.

Normally what happens to traitor in time off war? They get executed and imprisoned if they are lucky. I'm just using logic here. Traitor would get arrested or killed.

BB title is already gone.

A shichibukai had to participate in the war to keep thier title. They threatened Boa Hancock with this.

BB skipped the war and invaded Impel down. His title is gone

and what about Don? he openly told a VA to let them escape so it would be more fun.

Words differ from action

and kuma for the matter has let the SH's go twice.

Look what happened to him.

She said herself that she would fight WB but she wasnt fighting WITH the marines so i really dont think there gunna kick out boa based on her taking down a few pacifista

Did she fight White Beard? It doesn't matter what she says if her actions differ.

f.y.i. 1 PX is worth as much as a battle ship.

You read the Enes Lobby Arc right? Do you know how big they are? Thats a lot of money.

What do you think would happen to a marine if he/her did that, costing the government billions upon billions?

What do you think would happen to an Allied Pirate?

She assisted luffy, and fought a high ranking marine to defend him during the time of war. She violated the Shichibukai agreement, thus it's now void

My apologies for posting this again. I just don't want this post to be buried in this forum so that the recipient gets a chance to read this

@AGOG:

It's because on OMF they have the biggest Boa Hancock fanbase that can't even accept Zoro can get help from Perona, because they suspect that some random unknown character is going to show up with a BOAT, etc. to save the day.

Zoro always got lost,but he never failed to find his way

Perona = not even further explained.

Thats the whole point

However, when Boa Hancock is dealt with the whole situation, to them, she could very well be on Raftel and she'd still be able to join the crew before they get to FI in their sense… Heck, some of the people there just want AL to die so that she can join.

That is incorrect. They look at Boa Hancock's previous actions. For example. If luffy never asked Boa Hancock to agree to her summon, Boa would have refused and her island would've been on the attack list. If it wasnt for luffy….........you know.......

No. The first part (bold) is true… the rest is already done by...
I do encourage you to prove the bold as "false" if you are able to... Obviously, you'd kill my whole entire argument from the ground up.

No, there are FACTS to support my speculation for Perona, however, for Hancock, there's nothing but "love sickness" and "her treaty is no longer in existence" to support that Boa Hancock would even jump and change sides, when the obvious is pinning towards her remaining an ally... And those are speculations made upon speculations [LS can kill and is fatal, even though you can state it isn't. Hancock won't be able to board their ship, since she's their enemy.] as is the whole Boa Hancock future that she's BOUND to find them, even though she has no idea where to find them…

You're missing luffys outstanding relationship with Boa Hancock. No one else comes close. Well, mabey Bon-Queer but untill the Manga shows that he lived and is out of prison, his chances would stay at 0

Here's the facts:

• Each and every time Zoro is lost, Oda foreshadows prior to him being lost:

  • In this situation, Zoro has said that he knew how to use the vivre card, so that means that he won't know how to by means of Oda's foreshadowing _. Recap: Zoro can't use the Vivre Card [only way for him to regroup with crew]. This is not a fact, but a speculation base off of previous occurrences.

    I could make a similar speculation

    Fact is that each time Zoro got lost, he always found his way

    Best example is in SA when zoro went the opposite direction and ended up with his crew

    Based on this continues occurrence I can make a speculation that Zoro doesnt need perona to find his way

    • Perona can. She's shown being able to track a light towards a single direction, so she can manage that… As well as a little other situation with her knowing layouts and basic directions.This argument became pointless because of my point above

      • The second is the proof that Zoro is lost, Oda has Zoro state something, illustrates him being lost, or something else to show this.Zoro never failed to find his way.

        • In this sense, he is lost and wandering around, and his chapter title is his typical cocky "I'm not lost attitude" but he is lost… We already covered this point

          • When that happens, Zoro is always offered help by Oda's writing, meaning he has another character help him out… In this sense, it's Perona who is confirmed to be able to do everything.

          • Thousand Sunny is docked on SA. Each crew has a Vivre Card to find Rayleigh and he said he will be somewhere on SA.* _Perona has helped heal Zoro who was close to death.
            In my opinion,perona healed zoro to help her get off the island. She doesnt know that zoro is bad with directions. She wanted to get off the island and saw zoro as the answer

            From her cry we can tell that she's still loyal to moria. "Waah~~!!. Where am I anyway, Moria-sama. I want to go back to thriller bark.

            http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-524/page010.html

            • Perona **will have helped Zoro return to SA.**This speculation is based of speculation that zoro would need perona

              • Luffy and crew will be on SA.So, I've got it done to probable manga plot sequence form, something that is based off of manga events and such, unlike the argument that you present, which isn't.

              Big difference. Mine is stronger than yours because I don't disobey any claim that Oda created since my character has no "hidden" romantic meaning, nor does it seem to go against manga themes and canon plot facts.

              If I add my speculation that would aim towards her "being" a crew member, then my argument would become stronger as a whole, but less likely to be true/ canon… Because those are speculations that barely have any support, other than "events" and random stuff...

              Yes, but it's not that she's able to head there... If she can't go there with him, she's never going to join. Since he seems to have passed out on the last chapter, it's probably unlikely for her to join at all...

              Big difference between my argument and yours.

              Yet, you haven't proven anything about her having to head to the ship, nor have you shown how she would get there and there is no manga support that obeys standards to help your claim. Again, mine is stronger...

              Boa has betrayed the WG. When the word of her treason reaches sengoku she will be striped of her title.

              If Boa stays she will get killed or arrested.
              If Boa heads back to her the marines would attack her island to capture her.

              Her only option is to go with luffy. The thousand sunny is on SA. The marine HQ is right next door. This is a speculation like your whole argument.

              The things that boa has over perona are the following.

              You speculate that perona would meet luffy-Boa Hancock already has
              You speculate that she will build a good relationship with luffy-Boa Hancock already has

              All the speculation on what perona might do, Boa already has.

              The only speculate I have on Boa Hancock is how she might get to the ship. All of your arguments for perona are speculation

              Before this war started Boa said that she would take luffy to find his friends.
              Correction. I have no speculations.

              Then when luffy asked her to take him to ID, she said "I'll go where ever you may"
              Sounds to me like she wants to travel with luffy

              Those aren't the same as my arguments… Mine are a 50% situation, heck, they are beyond that... Yours lack that support that mine have, you can't claim "foreshadowing" since you've got nothing to help your claim, unlike me.

              Ive shown that you're argument lacks support.__

I believe that Dragon the Revolutionary has a Mythical dragon Zoan DF.

Look up "Chinese dragon" in wikipedia

@AGOG:

It's because on OMF they have the biggest Boa Hancock fanbase that can't even accept Zoro can get help from Perona, because they suspect that some random unknown character is going to show up with a BOAT, etc. to save the day.

Zoro always got lost,but he never failed to find his way

Perona = not even further explained.

Thats the whole point

However, when Boa Hancock is dealt with the whole situation, to them, she could very well be on Raftel and she'd still be able to join the crew before they get to FI in their sense… Heck, some of the people there just want AL to die so that she can join.

That is incorrect. They look at Boa Hancock's previous actions. For example. If luffy never asked Boa Hancock to agree to her summon, Boa would have refused and her island would've been on the attack list. If it wasnt for luffy….........you know.......

No. The first part (bold) is true… the rest is already done by...
I do encourage you to prove the bold as "false" if you are able to... Obviously, you'd kill my whole entire argument from the ground up.

No, there are FACTS to support my speculation for Perona, however, for Hancock, there's nothing but "love sickness" and "her treaty is no longer in existence" to support that Boa Hancock would even jump and change sides, when the obvious is pinning towards her remaining an ally... And those are speculations made upon speculations [LS can kill and is fatal, even though you can state it isn't. Hancock won't be able to board their ship, since she's their enemy.] as is the whole Boa Hancock future that she's BOUND to find them, even though she has no idea where to find them…

You're missing luffys outstanding relationship with Boa Hancock. No one else comes close. Well, mabey Bon-Queer but untill the Manga shows that he lived and is out of prison, his chances would stay at 0

Here's the facts:

• Each and every time Zoro is lost, Oda foreshadows prior to him being lost:

  • In this situation, Zoro has said that he knew how to use the vivre card, so that means that he won't know how to by means of Oda's foreshadowing _. Recap: Zoro can't use the Vivre Card [only way for him to regroup with crew]. This is not a fact, but a speculation base off of previous occurrences.

    I could make a similar speculation

    Fact is that each time Zoro got lost, he always found his way

    Best example is in SA when zoro went the opposite direction and ended up with his crew

    Based on this continues occurrence I can make a speculation that Zoro doesnt need perona to find his way

    • Perona can. She's shown being able to track a light towards a single direction, so she can manage that… As well as a little other situation with her knowing layouts and basic directions.This argument became pointless because of my point above

      • The second is the proof that Zoro is lost, Oda has Zoro state something, illustrates him being lost, or something else to show this.Zoro never failed to find his way.

        • In this sense, he is lost and wandering around, and his chapter title is his typical cocky "I'm not lost attitude" but he is lost… We already covered this point

          • When that happens, Zoro is always offered help by Oda's writing, meaning he has another character help him out… In this sense, it's Perona who is confirmed to be able to do everything.

          • Thousand Sunny is docked on SA. Each crew has a Vivre Card to find Rayleigh and he said he will be somewhere on SA.* _Perona has helped heal Zoro who was close to death.
            In my opinion,perona healed zoro to help her get off the island. She doesnt know that zoro is bad with directions. She wanted to get off the island and saw zoro as the answer

            From her cry we can tell that she's still loyal to moria. "Waah~~!!. Where am I anyway, Moria-sama. I want to go back to thriller bark.

            http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-524/page010.html

            • Perona **will have helped Zoro return to SA.**This speculation is based of speculation that zoro would need perona

              • Luffy and crew will be on SA.So, I've got it done to probable manga plot sequence form, something that is based off of manga events and such, unlike the argument that you present, which isn't.

              Big difference. Mine is stronger than yours because I don't disobey any claim that Oda created since my character has no "hidden" romantic meaning, nor does it seem to go against manga themes and canon plot facts.

              If I add my speculation that would aim towards her "being" a crew member, then my argument would become stronger as a whole, but less likely to be true/ canon… Because those are speculations that barely have any support, other than "events" and random stuff...

              Yes, but it's not that she's able to head there... If she can't go there with him, she's never going to join. Since he seems to have passed out on the last chapter, it's probably unlikely for her to join at all...

              Big difference between my argument and yours.

              Yet, you haven't proven anything about her having to head to the ship, nor have you shown how she would get there and there is no manga support that obeys standards to help your claim. Again, mine is stronger...

              Boa has betrayed the WG. When the word of her treason reaches sengoku she will be striped of her title.

              If Boa stays she will get killed or arrested.
              If Boa heads back to her the marines would attack her island to capture her.

              Her only option is to go with luffy. The thousand sunny is on SA. The marine HQ is right next door. This is a speculation like your whole argument.

              The things that boa has over perona are the following.

              You speculate that perona would meet luffy-Boa Hancock already has
              You speculate that she will build a good relationship with luffy-Boa Hancock already has

              All the speculation on what perona might do, Boa already has.

              The only speculate I have on Boa Hancock is how she might get to the ship. All of your arguments for perona are speculation

              Before this war started Boa said that she would take luffy to find his friends.
              Correction. I have no speculations.

              Then when luffy asked her to take him to ID, she said "I'll go where ever you may"
              Sounds to me like she wants to travel with luffy

              Those aren't the same as my arguments… Mine are a 50% situation, heck, they are beyond that... Yours lack that support that mine have, you can't claim "foreshadowing" since you've got nothing to help your claim, unlike me.

              Ive shown that you're argument lacks support.__

@dirt:

http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=3121299&postcount=7

be enlightened

I heard of this sheonite.

He looses almost every arguement and thinks he's winning
Though occasionly he makes good point and provides overlly long posts

If it wasnt for this he'd be an outcast

I was reading this

http://forum.onemanga.com:80/showthread.php?p=3251166#post3251166

alexmedvek really made a great point about sheonite's argument style

…......forum.one manga is pretty intresting.

The individual named alexmedvec shares my arguments.He basically hits my points.

the next nakama thread reached part 102 there..........thats pretty amazing