Wow, actually had time to go, read the chapter calmly, and come back to first reply? What is the world coming to… o_o
Anyway... GREAT chapter! Luffy's showing he's got brains with his brawns now... relatively speaking! :D
Wow, actually had time to go, read the chapter calmly, and come back to first reply? What is the world coming to… o_o
Anyway... GREAT chapter! Luffy's showing he's got brains with his brawns now... relatively speaking! :D
It's like Luffy sailing on a ship that looks like a straw hat.
that vision seriously made me lol
Normally i don't post (see join date), but possibility of contribution brought me from the depths of the lurking ocean.
Greg, the student-built library in my colege has about 200 issues of jump right there doing nothing. AFAIK (i.e. I know zero japanese, and can merely recognize most hira/katakana) they're from about the middle of skypiea to near the end of water 7. If you need anything from that timeframe, just ask. I'll double-check to see if those are really the chapters, as well.
Cheers!
Hahahahahaha If you think this was a throw-and-see-what-sticks-prediction, like the Moria is alive people.
This just shows who have a thorough understanding of Oda's story and who just don't have a clue.
It's more of a "I don't theorize and minuciously examine each and every minuscule detail about Oda's work, I simply enjoy the ride" attitude.
Imo it's quite ridiculous when people come here and brag about guessing what would happen. Seriously, dude. Who cares?
To each his own I guess.
To all people rejoicing they made any prediction days, months, or years before they actually came true:
You are just like Nostradamus. You thought of a billion things, made a million prophecies, and by sheer luck/creativity a thousand of them were successful.
Nobody cares. Go cry in a corner.
How the hell is a resurrection even possible at this point? Haki?
The vivre card is gone, he had his whole death monologue and he died with no regrets. It's over.
I hope so too, I just thought of this because the title is not "The death of Gol D. Ace".
Also, someone mentioned, at a point, using Ivankov's hormones to reconstruct Ace's internal organs… =o
(Again: I hope not.)
"The death of Portgas D. Ace"
And the birth of Gol D. Ace?
…I hope not... too farfetched. But, as other people said, there are possibilities for ressurection...
=/
...I TRUST ODA!
@Zik:
I know not what you speak of…..........
I was just commenting on how zealously you defend your opinions.
p.s. define "zealously", in this context, as "I'M FUCKING ABSOLUTELY RIGHT FUCK OFF", or something similar.
@Zik:
The marines and WG operatives are clearly 2 different factions. I'll make this example in the army you have to start from a private to work your way to being a general through participation in wars and many other combat situations, that would be what the marines are in OP. WG operatives/CP9 are more like FBI agents where you can be at a desk for 10 years and then be leading an assassination mission on a president.
It is still retarded.
You take this "absolute truth" thing really seriously, huh?
@Shaman:
am i the only one who thought perona was cool, especially her powers because people are hating till no tomorrow
Besides looks, bitchyness, and the highly irritating horohorohorohorohoroARGHBURNINHELL laugh, she's fine in my book.
T_T Perona? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
thanks a lot! (trying to) download.
@Neo:
The thing that worries me, though, is his nickname. Since Luffy was, in part, based off of Journey To The West's main character Sun Wukong, who was himself trapped under a mountain by the buddha long before the journey itself started, i can't help but feel that, at some point, Sengoku's gonna lock Luffy up by showing how he got to be called the buddha.
Excellent info, could you tell us more about that, or point some nice links? =]
p.s. actually, he is called buddha because he sends the souls of the guys pwngoat decimates on their way to heaven!
pwngoat: blinks (6 shichibukais are dead before falling to the ground, mihwak and skanks barely live, heavily injured).
sengoku: ritualistic movements namuamidabutsu! namuamidabutsu! you know, master pwngoat, you really should work on restraining your power some more… All this blood and subatomic pieces of gore will take ages to clean...
pwngoat: mehhh~~ (200 soldiers fall)
p.p.s. just joking...
pwngoat vs. Whitebeard will be the battle deciding the outcome of this war.
consider that the Strawhats are not so much just flying through the air as they are being carried, hence the 'Kuma Kushion' when they landed. There was an initial force applied that is carrying them along and it's what seems to make their 'flight' possible since they do not appear to be travelling too fast.
2. Luffy's path/speed did not seem to be affected by environmental factors. Wind, altitude, air pressure, etc.
That certainly seems to explain the "absurd" trajectory very well… And fits in with kuma's power, as well as the landing crater. Nice thinking
Perhaps this trajectory is made of the "flying" person's own instinct/subconscious/inner desire, or similar, that is guiding them to a place "they want to go" (as kuma asks). Oda could certainly find a play on words to suit this and Kuma's power. I actually believe, now, that this is the case.
Sorry about any mistakes making my posts hard to read (my english still needs quite some study). Best regards.
^Basically, all that attention to detail was for naught. It's a fairy tale world with superpowered adventurers. Well, that's what we love about One Piece.
My point exactly. It's impossible to make predictions based on real-life measures/laws/physics, because that's not how Odaverse owrks.
Luffy appeared to have been launched from Sabaody before late afternoon and he was tired of screaming by sunset. He slept through the night and even though Luffy can sleep for days straight, it seems that he landed the next morning before waking up. As far as his speed is concerned, it appeared that he was travelling faster than birds, but slow enough so that large underwater beasts could track him with their heads. I'm not going to realistically suggest this, but I'm just throwing this out saying he was going what seemed to be somewhere between 90-110 miles an hour. Someone with a better gauge on speed can call me on that. If that's the case let's say it was 100, and that means he was travelling at that rate for about 16 or so hours. That's about 1,600 miles away give or take a shitload. By the time he wakes up, if a day hasn't already passed since their promise with Rayleigh, it will soon. That gives him what? Two days to cover that distance to be back in time? That's insane.
I love your posts, I'll just make a bit of a correction here.
We MUST go into the realm of utter fantasy in the subject of "3 days and 3 nights flying", or even "1 day/1 night flying". It's completely unreasonable and impossible (physically speaking) for someone to be thrown and to take 24 hours to land. Flying really fast wouldn't work - even if you flew so fast you could make several laps around the world in the "flight time", you would still land in quite few time - your landing time depends only (simplistically speaking) on your initial vertical speed.
For the strawhats to take 24 or 72 hours to land, they would have to be launched with an completely absurd initial speed, and go into the atmosphere and beyond… REALLY FAR. I'm sure somebody with more time in their hands could do the math, but we're speaking SO far the influence of earth's gravitational force would diminish on the way, making the calculation fairly complex (we're talking about orbital heights, maybe more, here).
There are SEVERAL problems with this - absence of air, ultra-low temperatures, friction with atmosphere (at initial and final stages), close-to-zero pressure, etc. etc. etc. The way Oda portrayed it (luffy calmly sliding through the air) is realistically COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE - throwing someone horizontally REALLY fast doesn't stop him/her from falling vertically.
Thus, we must simply "believe and accept",and also, give our hero Oda a break, after all, no man has to excel at every field of knowledge, and clearly (as shown on some occasions before) he's not a fan of physics. Plus, it's his world, and, as far as we know, in the Odaverse maybe stuff just works like that and that's it.
Sorry for the long rethorical post and my bad english, I just wanted to point out it's completely senseless to make guesstimates as to how far they landed from shabondy - it's simply however far Oda wants to.
Best regards =)
Last i checked, in brazil we're at the beginning of water seven, dunno how much is that ^^
I don't read the local translation, anyway, because they're doing some quite poor job at adapting one piece (poor paper quality, printing errors, too much slang, wrong atmosphere, breaking chapters in half, etc. etc.)
REALLY sorry if this has already popped up in these forums, but I had to ask:
What if the thousand sunny is a numbered member of the crew? In that case, the chapter with the double numbers would still make sense, Franky still hasn't had his "defining moment" yet (or, still more bizarre, the sunny hasn't!), and we already have 10 members in the crew, before entering the new world (which is quite appropriate, in my opinion).
Whaddaya think? (sorry for my poor english)
@MonkeyDMalcolm:
this thread sucks
YOU WIN THE THREAD
As much as I´d like to agree with you here, FFA is right on this one because in Yellow Oda has confirmed that it clearly is an illusion and not move that slashes the opponent with 9 swords.
Curses! I have been foiled by obscure extra material again! =)
Seriously, I need to read yellow -.-
@Fire Fist:
There's no point to that. When will people get it through their head? Ashura wasn't a powerup, it was an illusion projected by Zoro to confuse Kaku.
Says so the Holder Of The Absolute Truth In The Universe (a.k.a. The Man Inside Oda's Head) :happy:
@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
A Yuck-Yuck-Fruit. Even the Sea will spit you out.
I love/hate your sig @_@
luffy has shanks' cape!
TEH AWESOMENESS :D
In this poster, they look as badass as any top-tier pirate crew… Truly ready for the new world. If i were a marine soldier, I would fear that.
And yet, all the goofyness is there. Without losing the badassery.
I love oda :)
Maybe it doesn't sell enough?
I don't know many one piece fans in my place (they're mostly people I've introduced the series to), but with stuff like chobits and this latest batch of shitty generic manga they're releasing, I guess they could at least give the treatment they initially gave to OP…
EDIT: Sorry, my bad. The latest shitty generic manga batch is from JBC, not conrad. I haven't got the faintest idea what are their newer releases.
How come Naruto gets panini and OP gets toilet paper treatment? Uncomprehensible. :/
A conrad tá cagando pra one piece =/ tá foda
FUCK YES!
Great chapter.
Also, I don't get why people complain about powerups - they are omnipresent in one piece. Luffy has used external objects/enemy's weapons against the enemy more often than not. Let's see what i can recall…
I'm sure there's some more i can't remember, but you get it... Luffy adapts a lot, getting a temporary powerup in almost every arc =)
Croc's defeat. Lucci's defeat. Franky running around naked (funniest moment in a long time). Shiawase punch and the post-alubarna fight episodes. Arlong saga (ALL OF IT MWAHAHA). Bellamy OHKOed. All scenes with the 'Big Powers' in them.
Ace vs. Blackbeard.
And I forgot: 448. Zombie-back-to-earth is also one of the funniest things ever ^^
sorry for nitpicking, I just wanted to say that in portuguese it is more common to refer to gasoline as "gasolina".
Ah, I stopped buying them exactly at the end of alabasta… I didn't know the quality had dropped so much... that's sad to hear, I really liked their translation...
Don't tell me I'll have to resort to JBC! =(
At least they try to keep us informed on what's happening, though…
One bad thing, however, is the cutting they do on some chapters to their own convenience... Like on the croc defeat chapter. It's not really BAD, but it detracts a little from the original.
I also wish they would keep the chapter titles consistent...
I think Conrad's translation is very good… It manages to mantain the feeling of all the important scenes, and doesn't change names undiscriminately... Also, although I'm now used to the name "Luffy", "Ruffy" sounds so much less... retarded.
P.S I was wondering if the webmaster of the great brazilian fansite "Romance Dawn" posts here in Arlong Park…
You know… when "Blade: The immortal's blade" (or something on these lines, I don't know the original title) was published in my country, the editors simply put a footnote on the manga stating that the manji was different from the swastika, that they had different-oriented arms, and that one had nothing to do with the other... And then there was zero bitching about political correctness. It would be much simpler to do that... But hey. Let's not fuss about something we don't even know it's the truth, aye?
@Monkey:
Hmm, this may be only a legend, but supposedly Capoeira was invented by some rebellious Brazilian slaves; the colonists had forbidden them to practise martial arts and learn how to fight so they disguised their fighting style as a dance so that if they were ever caught they could claim they were only dancing. So Capoeira is (or should be) first and fighting style and secondly a dance.
Modern capoeira is primarily dance, and secondarily a fighting style; you can use it for self-defence, that's for sure, but that isn't as efficient as learning a martial art (whatever it be).
However, that historical information is correct. Thank you for paying attention to your history classes, I know many people who still think the capital of Brazil to be São Paulo or Buenos Aires.
Cap'n Carter: I guess that depends on who's playing, then… For example, I got my ass handed to me every time I played with Chun Li, but could kick some with Fei Long.
In one of them fighting games didn't they have a Brazillian that done these moves and got beat up all the time?
KOF, I believe… And yes, he was extremely weak...
He did represent the style well, tho (his breathing animation was a nicely done ginga).
BTW, I didn't mean to pretend I'm some kind of capoeira specialist, I can't do even the basic stances... XD
Okay, I'm brazilian and I must say something about this… (Sorry, btw, long time lurker, first poster and all that stuff...)
I don't believe this will happen... look, this is probably what you think capoeira is:
That's some aggressive kicking and impressive dodging, right? Well, actually, no. Capoeira is more a sort of dance, a recreational fighting style, geared towards making your body flexible and… Well, capable of doing the stuff above.
All the moves Capoeiristas do are coreographed, sorta; like, if the attacker does this, the defender knows he does move X or Y next, and the attacker, similarly, responds with moves A or B to move X, and C or D to move Y, and so on…
Therefore, if you use capoeira in a real fight, it's not nearly as beautiful as in a demonstration, and it's really much less effective than it looks. And, if you take the dance out of it, only the fighting moves stay - and that's already what Sanji does: as you said, he uses many of the techniques, but out of context (although I doubt any capoeirista could put his palms to the ground and repeatedly spin their legs wide apart with enough force to cause any real damage...)
Also, Sanji doing the ginga would be... ridiculous.
@Masta:
Just checked Wiki…
It was the Azure Dragon (Green?) of the East, Black tortoise of the North, White Tiger of the West, and the Vermillion bird of the south. They were also used in Digimon as the four gods who protect the Digi-World.
Thanks for checking that. =D
Thanks to ADC for not giving up on the adverse circumstances. :)
Perhaps Aldrich's read the book on "How to make manga" too much… :D maybe that's why it was so obvious to him. I had no clue...
Has anyone any idea why the chapter is called "Jack in the box"? I already asked that but no one answered, so… Does someone know that?
I guess it's because of the absurd quantity of surprises and revelations that it contains.
AWESOME chapter. I love the big "Eeeeeeeeeeeeeh?????" at the end.
I reckon Oda took the inspiration from the same place as the mangaka he worked behind, Nobuhiro Watsuki, in Rurouni Kenshin?
There were four animals, Red bird, White… tiger?, Blue tortoise/snake(?), and Black something... which were the inspiration for the four stars, the bodyguards of Enishi Yukishiro's second in command (can't remember his name).
Thanks for bringing this up.