Posts made by Smore

That was a Viz term actually, they used it first, before the 4Kids dub even got to the Kuro arc.

He's the main character.

It's the same reason why Luffy, Ichigo, etc. will always beat the big bad. They could also lose (then win later) to the big bad, or just run away.

But never will another character BEAT the big-bad. Just not how shonen works.

Hah. I wouldn't even call that shit a 'channel'. That won't change a damn thing.

@dirt:

kind of buttfuck out of nowhere

hush up

Not a chance.

If you guys can talk, then so will I. Don't wanna hear (read) me? Hit the ignore button, niggah.

People are saying that, like DBZ, all One Piece needs is a second chance… But they fail to see that that 'scenario' already happened! And we got SHIT.

One Piece (4Kids) premeired on Saturday mornings and didn't do so hot.

Dragonball Z (saban) premeired on Saturday mornings and didn't do so hot.

One Piece premiered on Toonami and did good... Until is was canceled during the FUNi episodes, of all things.

DBZ premired on Toonami and became a break-out hit and finished it's run. And it now runs on Nicktoons with Kai which has become a hit as well.

...

You see? One Piece... just wasn't meant to be successful here, guys. It already had two chances. Three if you count the start of the FUNi version as another try. It peaked in 2006... and that was during the 4Kids episodes of Drum-Alabasta. But then it started to dwindle...

That was the best we'll probably ever get, I'm afraid. =/ All we can hope for now is the DVDs, but even that doesn't seem safe anymore. This series future here is just a big effin' headache.

And thus one of the One Piece fanbase's biggest problems. Their glorification of said series.

That's crap. Do you not see what could happen? Do you not see the trends this series has already been through?

Every time we hear bad news, it happens with this series.

Yeah, I never believed that shit.

One Piece fans are all just a bunch of pompous people who believe their series (or manga) are the holy grail of Japanese media and that it shouldn't be touched by ANYTHING.

And look at the fucking predicament we have now. THIS is why i don't have a high opinion on traditional anime fans. THIS.

@Yuugi's:

It's not all of that surprising that the numbers are low. Today's fans are teens raised in the digital era. They're years beyond FUNimation's releases and simply don't come from the era we more mature fans did (i.e. the dial-up days). We're two different breeds with two different outlooks. The rich man and the poor man. The penny pencher and the penny ass-wiper (well, more like "wipes ass with hundred dollar bills" but you get the point). It's just not surprising.

God, I feel like a thirty year veteran cop talking to a rookie on his first rounds…

If that's the case tho, no series would be selling. NARUTO WOULDN'T BE SELLING, DAMMIT.

This is clearly a problem with One Piece's fucking fanbase.

Let it be a Toei reason.

If it turns out the fucking anime fans are at fault for this….

Naruto.

…

Don't even remind me of that. Fucking bullshit how it's been easy sailing for that series and it's fans here. Yeah, I'm fucking jealous.

This whole situation is ugly anyways.

Agh, I feel like we need to get a FUNi representative that works with the series ASAP.

Waiting for an answer, with the possibility of it being a 'we're dropping it' would be… would be...

Nothing short of a mind-fuck.

Fuck. I knew the loss of the tv deal will be the first kick to it's death (if it's to happen). Slowly but fucking surely. Please please please lemme be wrong.

Like… this'll be the biggest losing fucked up ending out of anything involving anime...

This can't come to pass. We've suffered so much already with the fate of this series, why must it always be a fucking rocky road with this shit.

This is ONE PIECE. It's sales shouldn't be ANY-FUCKING-WHERE near the bottom.

I swear to God, if it really turns out that they dropped the series… I won't be mad at FUNi. Oh, no.

I'd... I don't even know. I feel like my head will just blow up or something. That'd be beyond fucked up.

Oh, and don't let me find out it's the fans fault either. Because IF. IT. IS.

Oh, man.

If that's the truth, then… people are fucking stupid. Out of all the titles FUNi owns... ONE PIECE is the one with lowest sales? Implying that some of the throw away anime FUNi owns are selling BETTER!? I just don't believe it... But if it's true... Then One Piece was never meant to come stateside. That's... pretty much it.

Hmm, how odd.

It seems they actually censored some dialog for the episode where Luffy beats Eneru.

They changed Usopp's "You son of a bitch!" into "That bastard!"

And Luffy's "That won't work on me, dumbass!" was just changed to "That won't work on me!".

Maybe they were just character dialog fixes… But still, how odd.

@Jekkie:

I'll be getting season 3 soon, already have all up to the end of the Alabasta arc. Was wondering because I saw a video on youtube and Blackbeard doesn't have his distinct laugh…is there any reason for that? Funi mistake or no one knows?

Funi usually doesn't leave in the laughs.

@Redspear:

Quit whining you brat. Its people like you that ruin an amazing episode.

I actually liked this episode, thank you very much.

I'm just sick of people saying that the Naruto anime has worse animation and art than One Piece's anime… and all the proof they can find is that Naruto vs. Pain episode.

Naruto sucks. We all here at least agree on that. But it's anime TYPICALLY has better animated episodes than One Piece's.

@dan2026:

I just watched the latest anime episode and I have to say that the toning down of all the fight scenes is really grating with me.

When nobody ever seems to get bloodied or bruised or cut, it just takes all dramatic impact out of the scenes for me.

It seems kind of lame to say I want to drop a series because it isn't violent enough.
But I'm really considering it.

You're right.

That is lame.

@Cobalt:

Great Story > Animation

Which story you like better is totally up to the person.

But bad animation is just bad animation.

@GJardim:

Guess people forgot about this?

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Naruto's anime has better animation (in general).

I mean… People always bring this episode up as an example of the animation being worse than One Piece's. But that's one of... nearly 200 (400 ish if you combine the original with Shippuden)?

The story of Naruto may be worse, but it shows that Studio Perriot puts more money in for the animation than Toei does for One Piece. Sadly.

@Baby_Naruto:

Don't they just drop off the package and leave?

I never have to sign a thing, then again, I'm always using gift cards for payment.

Well, I said house… But I really meant apartment. And, nah, they just leave a sticky note that tells you when they'll try again.

FUCK!!

UPS came and no one from my house opened the door (I was at work), so now I gotta wait 'till Monday.

-_-

That's kinda true. If he wanted to protect Luffy, why WOULD he be in Logia form? If this was any other situation it would'a gone straight through Ace and hit Luffy anyways. So it's kinda weird that Ace would 'protect' Luffy in that form.

Unless he knew that with or without it, he'd stop the attack by actually getting hit.

Especially in Japan.

@StarlightMan:

Just my 2 cents on the whole censorship argument… IMO you can't justify the whole "It's a kids show!" stand point when the author does all this stuff in the source material, which is also targeted for a young audience. And nobody gives a toss.
But oh, once you add voices and movement, suddenly that makes a big difference? You still imagine both in your head while you read. Kids buy these magazines - hell, I've seen 11-year-olds on the Tokyo Metro reading these huge magazines filled with boobs and blood. They can buy these magazines at any time of the day. But because OP is on in the morning, it has to be censored?
And they'll animate a Hollow-like hole in the middle of Ace and Whitebeard's chest, surrounded by blood and torn skin, but they won't do half a face?
Ultimately it's those inconsistencies which make it frustrating for me, not the actual censorship - I can understand why Toei do it, even though I think it's unnecessary. Kids wouldn't find it scary. They'd go, "Sugoi!" And if anyone younger than 12 is watching it, then that's the parents fault.

Comics can get away with more than tv shows. Which explains it's allowance in the manga.

And again, Ace and Whitebeards wound shouldn't be considered the same. Head wounds (especially like the one Whitebeard got) are always considered more violent than anything else. Too violent for One Piece to show in the timeslot it's in.

Ace with the hole in his chest is the most they can push it.

Sure, most kids will think it's cool. But that's not what the censorship department cares about, and really… There's no point in arguing on HOW they should deal with it. The only thing I'm telling ya'll is to expect it.

@dan2026:

I mean he should lose definitively against Zancrow.
The current battle against him isn't over.

With my Crocodile/Luffy example, Luffy lost the first two encounters, then had to come back with an updated strategy.

I'd like to see the same happen with Natsu/Zancrow.
With Zancrow defeating Natsu in their first encounter, forcing him to re-evaluate and making it that much sweeter when he finally does win in the future.

Then people will just say he's copying Oda.

Mashima can't win.

Yeah, I'm fully expecting the manga fans here to bitch like little birds… But it's something they should have expected and made amens with by now.

@Maron:

Ace got hit with lava by Akainu, leaving a bloody, gaping hole in his back going through his whole body.

I must be missing something, but I honestly don't see what makes this that different from Halfbeard. It's not like they have to show his brains flying through the air or anything.

Seeing what they got away with for Ace, I don't think it was unreasonable to expect Akainu's attack on Whitebeard to remain the same.

You guys really need to learn on how this stuff works.

Any violence (ANY) involving the head of a human character is going to be more taboo. It just is.

It's the same reason Bellemere got shot in the chest instead of in the head in the anime. And that was wayyyy in the beginning where the censorship wasn't nearly as strict.

PG13 movies can show much violence. But if it shows a clear decapitation, the rating bumps up to R. That's the way it works.

Whitebeard had half his head BLOWN OFF. There's really no way they were gonna show that. At the best, they could've shown that half his face got burnt or something. But in the time-slot One Piece is in, they're not going to show something THAT brutal.

The hole in Ace is about as violent as it'll get (and even that was reduced from the manga).

@dan2026:

I really hope Gajeel doesn't show up as surprise back-up.
The guy had a sword straight through his arm, he should be down for the count.

Natsu needs to be beaten to put some humility into him, everyone loses eventually.

Even Luffy lost to Crocodile two times before finally beating him.

If those are your requirements then Natsu already kinda lost twice.

Against Gildartz… and against this new fire enemy.

It's because it's too violent. You honestly believed they were gonna keep Whitebeard with half his head blown off in the anime?

-_-

Wow, that was pretty powerful. Though a lil dragged out if you ask me.

The whole "it only applies to people born after 2009" claim is bull.

It applies to everyone.

That is…. if you even give a shit. I don't.

@TheMidnightRift:

lol @ everyone who calls me someone that is bitching for no reason.
If you enjoyed this episode, so be it, glad for you, I'm guessing you smoked something before watching it, though, because its undisputable terrible.
Tip tap dances out of the thread

Not really. I was just fine. Sober and all.

Call me having low standards… but I'm sure yours aren't much better, believe me. Everyone who likes to nitpick seem to think they have 'high' standards. So far from the truth...

It just comes down to not caring so much about stuff like anime. I wish you people would do the same.

@TheMidnightRift:

I'm totally not, TOEI always had a bad pacing, but it excelled at the other things when the time called for it.
For example, Ennies Lobby was slow as fuck, but every major scene was done extremely well, Blueno VS Luffy was one of the best "squash" (Great fighter VS Relatively weak fighter) fight scenes ever done in an anime ever. Sanji VS Jyabura was consistently good all the way through. Zoro VS Kaku handled all the scenes as close to the manga as humanly possible, even with some filler added, the only thing I remember being bad in that fight was how Toei handled the "Up Tower" "Down Tower" and the weird "fake" attack, but those were minor mistakes in a great adaptation. Chopper turning into a Monster was done in a way equal to the Manga, no doubts about it. Lucci VS Luffy had its weirdass bad animated and non-flowing moments, but it the way the Usopp speech and the last Gattling was done was intense, very emotional and almost perfect, in fact, I'l go one step further and say it was done 3 times better than in the Manga.

Same happens with Alabasta, slow as fuck, but it was a great adaptation, in fact, that was even better than Enies Lobby, all the important scenes of the Manga were done just as well in the Anime, there were some slowdowns, but it was perfect. Also, great choice for soundtrack.

Skypiea was also too slow, but it did everything amazingly well when it came to the actual war and the one on one fights.

So, yeah, Toei has always been too slow on the One Piece Anime, which is excusable, considering they have to make a 20 page spread into a 20 minutes episode. But when it came to the good parts, they animated it well, even those that didn't like going through 20 weekly minutes of One Piece loved checking out on Youtube the important scenes.

But now, with this war, everything was fucked up. EVERYTHING… WAS... FUCKED UP... Well, I'm lying, some scenes were handled pretty well, but Luffy VS Mihawk, for example, was terrible, the war didn't feel nearly as big, which is one of the biggest faults, take a look at the Alabasta war, THAT LOOKED EPIC, INTENSE, IMMENSE, HUNDREDS OF REBELS KILLING AND GOING THROUGH HELL. Toei didn't show almost any blood, but it looked very war-like, all they had to do was not show the battles from close but rather show the whole picture with chaos everywhere, the Alabasta war was 100 times smaller than the MarineFord War. Meanwhile, look through Skypiea, THERE WERE ONLY 86 FIGHTERS, AND IT STILL FELT MORE INTENSE THAN THE MARINEFORD WAR, WE SAW EVERYONE FLYING THROUGH THE AIR, TOEI MAKING USE OF EVERY SINGLE VICTIM BEING SHOWN DYING OR BEING WEAKENED. It really gave you the feeling of the "survival game" Oda had the intent on doing.

Now, look at Marineford:

-The battlefield feels empty, in the manga, there are about hundreds of soldiers everywhere, in the Anime, it looks like there's about 50 marines spread throught the battlefield and a bunch of pirates not doing anything. When Toei actually shows a lot of fighters (more than 10), instead of making them fight with each other, all of them stay still or looking at whatever is happening on the main scene. There are some scenes where Luffy fights with 3 of them and the others seem distracted, which is fine, then there are scenes when Luffy plows through 2 Marines while 70 others look at him. WHAT THE FUCK?
It clearly looks like a bunch of scripted events, it looks like Toei is just following whatever they're seeing in the page and aren't actually doing anything with it, it doesn't look like a flowing war, which is something Oda always did right except maybe at Enies Lobby before they get to the Goverment building, and its something Toei has always done justice until Marineford, which is where they should have upped their ante, not the opposite.

Now, don't get me wrong, Toei didn't make this nearly as terrible as I make it look like above. There have been great scenes in this war, Marco VS Kizaru, Luffy VS Giant, Mihawk VS Vista, Ace fighting against marines, etc. But for every Marco VS Kizaru, there's a DoFlamingo awkwardly clashing with Crocodile and flying in the air as if he was in a sticky flash. For every Luffy VS Giant there's a Luffy VS Random Marines while 70 around look. For every Mihawk VS Vista, there's a Mihawk VS Luffy. And for every Ace fighting against the marines, there's a Ace pooping while having a magical unproportional fist gently coming out of is chest.

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TL;DR: Toei decided to be incredibly lazy when they should have put their "Let's work the hardest now" faces. But it doesn't matter, no matter how much more lazy they'l get, they'l keep having thousands of people watching it on Television, and worse, they'l keep having dozens of fans downing their taste so that they can appreciate, defend this type of episodes and act as if the complainers are whiners without any reason whatsoever. So, keep on doing whatever you're doing, Toei, I'l just keep on reading the actual well made medium of this story.

You sound like a total bitch, bro.

@SSJLuffy:

I think you guys whine way too much.

What do you expect?

Anime/Manga fans.

Yup. Episode would've been great if it wasn't for that god-awful Buggy filler.

Is that a new piece of BGM at the end? I didn't recognize it.

EDIT: I wish people would stop using that Naruto episode as an example. That episode (and I think one more) are the only episodes that look horrible. Shippuden is usually really good at keeping the animation consistent. And when there's an important moment, they usually do good.

THAT one episode and perhaps the Guy vs. Clone Guy episode are the only ones that really look bad.

Meh. Fuck 'em .

@LUFFY#1:

Well….

I wonder… If the guy who did that shit got killed yet.

He almost ruined it for us.

Cue Mario losing music…..Again.

SIGH

It really sucks being a One Piece fan in America sometimes.

@GEPPETTOSMONSTER:

did anyone see the preview for next weeks episode? notice the animation is slightly different.

It looks like the animation team who did the "Lucky Lucy" episode. The animation looked pretty fluid for that episode, but it didnt have much action. Hopefully for this episode we'll truly see their worth.

It's understandable.

We One Piece fans have been screwed over times before. It's just our gut-reaction by now.

Not that i think the DVDs will stop coming. But IF they did… It'd be just another blow to One Piece fans in America.

@Thousand:

Same reason most members in this forum still read shit like Naruto and Bleach. People like to finish what they started especially after investing so much time in it.

That's stupid. When I was little I invested a lot of time into Pokemon. I couldn't give two-shits about it now. When something is no longer to your liking, you should drop it.

@Thousand:

So people like Silence are retards then?

If the shoe fits…

@Thousand:

Common sense dictates you stop being a whiny bitch and stop telling people to shut up because you can't handle negative criticism. This thread is for mentioning good things and bad things alike.

That it is. But you should at least have interest in the series regardless. Even if you do criticize. For example, I criticize One Piece all the time. I still like the series, however. Which is why I keep reading.

You however criticize Fairy Tail and have openly admitted that the series is garbage, which indicates you don't like it. Why continue on? 'Cause you wanna continue what you started? It's just a children's comic book, dropping it won't matter much. And it'll spare us the annoyance as well. 'Cause it's not because you state your opinion. It's HOW you state it that makes it annoying.

@Kaiolino:

Anime viewers should be going through the story as was originally intended anyway.

Not for you to decide.

Be considerate, you jerks.

@Thousand:

Only because I wanna see where the train-wreck ends.

Pussy excuse of the year.

Take a page from Robby, he's actually smart. The series wasn't up-to-par for him so he gave it up. Like any sensible human being will do when they don't like something and have no obligation whatsoever to keep going.

Common sense, bruh.

@Thousand:

Anyway, I'm said my piece. Enjoy your mediocre manga.

It keeps you reading, nigga.