See? This is what I mean when I say people shouldn't associate reality with fiction, because it has a high tendency of going overboard. Society is flawed? Of course it is, in many forms over the centuries, and that has never changed. I will take action as any other common citizen if something is portrayed with a clear and unmistakable intention to offend someone or normalize certain behavior. But I will roll my eyes whenever I see people who cannot take a joke with no ill intent.
Posts made by Nekketsu
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
Ahem, back to the topic.
As I was saying previously, Toga always has got a few screws loose. But that last page is foreboding, I dare say. Ochako is not that far, I fear for the worst if she and that psychotic maniac end up clashing.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
I'm gonna bite the bullet one last time, but trying to be apolitical as possible.
Nekketsu, text and subtext go hand in hand in a story, but an author only has total control of his text. That doesn't erase the presence of the subtext. I give one exemple of a creator being happy, that a group of people found a subtext in his work, that was not intended but that works in this way: https://thecowardlyescanor.tumblr.com/post/631864366096154624/penndragon-robot-voice-yay855Nice find, Pariston, I didn't know of such thing. That said, is dangerous to do this kind of thing in the long run, because the subtext can have many interpretations depending of the person.
Still, I find the accusations of authoritarism a tad too harsh. Magne joining the LOV didn't equal transphobia either, but who knows if that subject will eventually be touched upon at some point. It's not like this Hero System is flawless anyway.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
To side track a little even though this thread is obviously trying to go the other way,
over analyzing and obsession can be a very subjective thing. You might think others are over analyzing a piece of work or a chapter but this is not so for the person because it could hold significant meaning to them.
Likewise, there's a fine line with, say someone in the story-telling industry or have a certain depth of knowledge about a topic criticizing it (because how verse he/she is on it) vs needlessly being a pain in the ass.Anyway, the "romanticism"/"make it cool for the sales" of mental health has been an ongoing thing in shounen/more popular manga series. I mean I can only name one which was Tokyo Ghoul and that aspect spiraled into a mess.
Shounen tend to always do that and it can become annoying when you have more mature series who does it insanely well.For good or bad, being attached to characters in a fictional story means readers have certain expectations and relatability to them.
You can't throw character aspects in to attract certain readers and then backtrack or betray said traits and expect people to be ok with it.Honestly I'm more of a "it's just fiction, I'll take the good parts and ignore the rest" but I understand why people invest in certain aspects and what it can mean, especially when Hero have a huge influence in current day.
Thanks for giving me 5 seconds and that's all I have to say.
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I find it hilarious how your reply is both triggering and baiting and then you pass the baton back to Julie by taking the higher ground saying you are the one willing to stop.
Therefore, throwing the responsibility and fault back to her as if she's the one at fault if she stands up for herself.Wouldn't have replied if she, you know, didn't start throwing accusations of transphobia or authoritarianism so nonchalantly. Even when it has nothing to do with me, that was poorly worded.
Anyway, I agree with almost all you have written above.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
Everything is political
No, it's not. Reality is reality, and fiction is fiction. The author isn't attempting to send a message to the masses, and more specifically to the children, he's just telling his story as he conceived it. Meanwhile you're making a poor effort at trying to shove stereotypes and looking for things you deem as offensive, no different than the so called white knights, whose borderline obsession to make everything political backfired in their faces as the "controversial" things they tried so hard to silence only gained more attention even from people who weren't interested in. Proper education, my ass. You're just trying to turn this into a political debate mess and take personal offense at a work of FICTION about super heroes.
I'll stop there. Don't wanna risk getting the thread locked.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
The odds aren't looking good for Gran Torino, as well. And who knows how many of the ranked heroes are going to make it at the end.
Whatever, the conclusion was foreboding. Regardless of how many will live to fight the next time, this huge conflict marks the end of the Hero Society.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
Honestly, at this point it won't be a shock to learn Dabi's true identity. But of course, the payoff to that will come later.
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The problem is that Horikawa doesn't really seem to buy into authoritarianism (the heroes) as being wrong. There's not enough of a strong depiction of the 'villains' as being the protagonists: Toga, Jin, and Mag-nee are victims of a broken system. They're an allegory for the real world's marginalized people. Hell, Mag-nee IS a real world marginalized person: she is a trans woman who turned to crime to survive. The hero Tiger is reward with being a 'proper citizen' by being able to transition, Mag-nee is punished by not being allowed to transition. It's an extremely transphobic message and goes to show Horikawa and JUMP editorial are only thinking about making sure the children reading this comic are good little soldiers for authority when they grow up.
I was wondering what made me so mad that it made me write that, now I know. That was wrong, man. Like, really wrong.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
And while all the destruction is undergoing, the scary question comes out. What are their parents doing ATM. What must be going through Deku's mom mind while her dear son has already been at death's door several times just in this arc alone.
Honestly, the thought of not knowing where your loved ones are, or even if they're alive amidst all that chaos, is perhaps the most terrifying thing in the world.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
As Bakugo notice in the previous chapter, or the one before that, Deku takes everything into account except his own well being. That's not a healthy outlook for a 16 yo.
He's always done that. Dear reminder that Deku would have completely destroyed his body had not been for Eri's quirk in the fight against Overhaul. And prior to that, that time where he crippled his arm vs Muscular.
He never worried about his well being if it meant to save someone.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
I suggest we drop this topic before the mods lock this thread.
Let's move to another one, does Deku need therapy?Toga is the one that needs therapy. A serial killer and murderer is now asking if it's okay for heroes to kill villains like them. A good reminder that she was always fucked up in her head. She should take a page from Daby and just enjoy the moment.
Also, All Might will have a lot to explain once this is all over. It was a given OFA and AFO were always the same quirk, named after their original users. But as Bakugou said well, sooner or later the truth will be known all over the UA.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
Oh no, believe me, I have a lot of patience.
It's just that I will never understand the urge, or rather, the obsession of certain people to over-analyze every panel, every word, from a realistic POV, when this is a fictional story with its own setting and rules that is mean to be enjoyed as how is conceived.
But I guess I'm too simple, someone who just reads the chapter, enjoys it throroughly and moves to the next. This place is definitely not for me.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
When did this turn into a political debate mess? And of course let's over-analyze everything, throw off-hand accusations or write conjecutres for the sake of, I don't know.
Thank you very much, you're giving me more reasons to leave this forums once and for all :getlost:
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RE: Spy X Family
Gotta say, Yor also needs to control herself if she doesn't want to expose her cover.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
Where can I read this now that it's not on Jaiminsbox? I just realized I'm very behind.
Mangadex is your friend.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
I'm at a loss of words. Of all things this is the one I would have never seen coming even searching thoroughly.
But man, I love this stuff. The author takes his time to build up the plot, and there's nothing I like more than a good fleshed out story.
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RE: Chapter 987: Vassals of Glory
Maybe these samurai actually wounded him but it was only superficial and it healed directly?
Why acting like Kaido was badly wounded or even got defeatedBecause some people are always looking for any bad excuse to throw a fit.
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RE: Chapter 987: Vassals of Glory
Kaido is smirking when he gets up. And that final panel screams "the calm before the storm". Kaido's about to take on the minks in a state of trance similar to awakened zoan, and anyone can see how's that going to end for them.
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RE: Chapter 987: Vassals of Glory
Even in DBZ we had kid Gohan headbutting Raditz
And Piccolo giving Frieza trouble, forcing him to transform further.
People should focus less on tiers and more on the narrative.
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RE: Chapter 987: Vassals of Glory
@Joy:
I don't remember WB being presented as a guy who literally cannot be hurt like Kaido was.
"Strongest man in the world".
"Strongest creature in the world".
Same wording. Then Kaido took a beating from Luffy that only made him a little tad annoyed, but the swords that pierced him are of the same kind the sword that 20 years ago gave him his scar. Kaido wasn't hurt by mere fodders, but the seasoned vassals of the only man that managed to wound him once.
As the guy above me said well, it's all about context.
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RE: Chapter 987: Vassals of Glory
Some people are under the wrong assumption that just because some major character is established as hella strong means that he cannot bleed/be injured.
Remember all that took to bring down who was the strongest man in the world despite he received a near-fatal injury at the beggining? Nuff said.
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RE: Chapter 987: Vassals of Glory
Checks thread
Sigh…
And of course, Joy Boy and others never learn. Too much bias and blindness to even have a proper discussion.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
Also dat foreshadowing with…
! Beni's doppelganger.
Not like we don't have quite the BIG clash ahead of us with Joker about to face off with Burns doppel.
Still, that last page at the end was the most interesting.
! Who's Shinra and Sho's father? Because of the lack of any mention about him I thought it didn't matter at first, but when we have already been introduced to Arthur or Maki's families, that absence becomes all the more glaring now.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
2nd season finally started, and it keeps the quality of the first, if not better. Some paneling reminded me of Bakemonogatari at times, and the coreography is superb.
Back to the manga, things are also getting heated there.
That said, I had to search through three pages to find the thread. Where are you people, hmm?
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/fire-force/en/0/219/page/1
Boy… Between this and the most recent raw things are going to heat up fast, no pun intended.
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RE: My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
Tokoyami's shadow cryptic comment about Hawk's condition sent shivers down my spine. That's how bad his predicament you know is.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/fire-force/en/0/218/page/1
So this is why they're called "doppelgangers". They are the antithesis of the original self. No wonder Iris is so gentle and caring, as opposed to her original counterpart.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
This has to be Inca's doing. Rebellious teenager? Check. Dyed hair and piercings? Check. No self-restraint? Check. Complete callousness over the well-being of others? Check. Lack of empathy? Check, check and check.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
Raw is out.
! As I thought. I think we should learn not to overthink stuff too much.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
Oh crap, you're right. I didn't notice the piercings in his ears.
He's strapped to a bed and his legs are bound. Probably an ancestor of his, one of the previous pillars.
Also, where's Inca? She must have also merged with an ancestor of hers.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
Neither. His hair has turned white due to accumulated stress, it appears.
The news reporter is the same that showed up when they broadcasted the first pillar emerging.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
Wouldn't a infernal of that size, immersed in water cause a lot of steam and turbulence on the water around it?
Clearly that ain't no ordinary infernal. Look closely, that thing is clad in some sort of armored gear.
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RE: Seven Deadly Sins
Oh yeah. What about the samurai dude that was hanging out with Arthur?
If he didn't perish along with the kingdom, he might serve as Arthur's right hand man.
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RE: Seven Deadly Sins
Deathpierce is a confused racist now. I wonder if this will play part of a convoluted plot.
His vision of civilization straight clashes with Arthur's, who wishes to build a kingdom for everyone.
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RE: Chapter 974: Onward to Onigashima!
Kanjuro is the very definition of insanity, this guy is just nuts.
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RE: Seven Deadly Sins
Let's see…
Mel x Liz = Tristan
Ban x Elaine = LancelotAnd Escanor is reincarnated as Gawain.
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RE: Chapter 973: The Kozuki Clan
Hoo boy, this panel now has a whole new meaning.
"It is good to have you on my side", LMAO. Orochi you piece of shit, I'm going to thoroughly enjoy every minute of your downfall.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/fire-force/en/0/209/page/1
Even when thinks are so tense, is nice to see that Company 8 can still spare some time to goof around, even if just to lighten up the mood a little.
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RE: Attack on Titan: Why Genocide Is Sometimes Kind of Okay
Ah, yes. The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.
Reiner had it coming long overdue.
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RE: Seven Deadly Sins
"Arthur and the boys (and girls)".
Welp, it looks like my theory that Escanor will be reborn as Gawain is only a few chapters away of turning true.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
! She did seem irritated by his presence.
Yeah, and by the by,
! Are we going to act like we didn't get confirmation that Iris is actually the doppelganger, and not the other way around. This has some heavy implications.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
After reading the chapter again,
! I have this slight suspicion Haumea is actually going against the will of the Evangelist.
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RE: Enen no Shouboutai
Your spoiler tag is disjointed, fix it.
! I knew that guy was bad news, but holy moly, an infernal started it all. That explains why the Evangelist followers knew about the bugs.
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RE: Chapter 972: I Am Oden, And I Was Born To Boil
Wonderful chapter and a fantastic closure to the flashback. Easily one of my Top 3.