Favorite: Alabasta. Crocodile, nuff' said.
Least favorite:Thriller bark. Moria was a huge disappointment, although I did have a bunch of good laughs. The next thing close to it is FI.
Those two arcs are definitely my least favorite arcs so far.
Favorite: Alabasta. Crocodile, nuff' said.
Least favorite:Thriller bark. Moria was a huge disappointment, although I did have a bunch of good laughs. The next thing close to it is FI.
Those two arcs are definitely my least favorite arcs so far.
Ace is pretty hot. Can't see how he'd be considered ugly. Same for Law.
I think OP has some of the hottest guys I've seen featured in a manga. And they're a bit different from what you'd normally expect, like bishonens for example, that is for the exception of Cavendish who really looks like a girl tbh.
In terms of older guys, Shanks, Mihawk and even Rayleigh are my favorites.And Roger had the most epic mustache, or nose hair maybe?
Thanks redon for sharing this precious information.
I'm really happy to see two of favorite titles like One Piece and Nanatsu no Taizai do so well. It's also reassuring given that the Dressrosa arc wasn't unanimously liked.
Lol I'm pretty chill, looks like you're the one needing it.
No harsh feelings, man.
Your conclusions are based on incorrect information. Ryuma did NOT slay the dragon at Wa, and neither did the dragon terrorize Wa. He did so at another island, in which he happened to be. Read monsters again, and pay attention this time.
I said that Oda "fused" both stories as said by him in the SBS. Looks like you haven't been paying attention yourself
D: Question for you!! Is the swordsman "Ryuma" who was once said to have defeated a dragon the very same Ryuma that starred in the short story "Monsters" from your collection volume entitled "Wanted!"? He is, isn't he? I'm so desperate to know, I can't brush my teeth. If I get a cavity, I'll tell the dentist it was your fault.P.N. Satoru-pyon
D: Greetings!! I cracked open "Wanted!" for the first time in ages and re-read "Romance Dawn", which prompted me to notice that Luffy's grandpa in that story was basically the same guy as Vice Admiral Garp! Does that mean that Garp was once the captain of a crew of pirates? P.N. NaoO: Well, here are two questions about my old short story collection, "Wanted!" I'll tackle Ryuma's first. The zombie Ryuma appears in Chapter 450 from this volume, and he is indeed the Ryuma who starred in "Monsters". In the world of One Piece, he's now a legendary swordsman who died of sickness. I wouldn't have minded if this had just slipped through the cracks, but I was happy to see that so many people noticed. Next, Garp. He appeared as Luffy's grandpa, and a pirate no less, in the one-shot that served as the basis for One Piece. He might look the same, but I want you to see these as different stories. Grandpa Garp from THIS One Piece is a true blue Marine, from birth till death!!
If Oda is planning to give Ryuma a background like I think he should then it's possible he could use the same story.
Furthermore, when Flare, the girl who had her village burned to a crisp by the dragon Ryuma later slayed, was absorbed in her fear of dragons, Ryuma showed no ‘hate’, ‘grudge’, ‘anger’, ‘fear’ or any such feeling. Instead, he was wondering about its scariness.
http://i.imgur.com/O8ongir.pngSomeone who had suffered the tragic attacks of a dragon or dragons at Wa would not be asking such question since the answer to it would have been known through his experience. So your surmise about the possibility that the people of Wa ‘hate’ dragons because their country gets attacked by dragons does not hold.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that statement is made by Ryuma himself, it certainly does not account for all the population.
The samurai at Wa are known to be very strong that not even the marines approach their country. When Ryuma killed that dragon, he did so without any trouble. It goes to show how strong his brethren are. Not only that but they were also shown to be able to use ‘hardening haki’. So defending themselves from a dragon should be a walk in the park.
Not only that, but Kinemon himself had no trouble whatsoever handling that tough dragon at Punk Hazard.
http://i.imgur.com/gA710j3.pngWith such man around, his wife has nothing to fear of dragons
Debatable, Haki wasn't always known to eveyone, and if all the samurais know Haki, then so should Ryuma. And yet he wasn't shown using something remotely close to that when he faced Zoro. Just shows how much you're assuming things.And we don't know if the dragons in PH are as strong as the real deal, they're artificial after all.
That’s CCC’s translation. It’s unquestionably reliable.
Nothing is more reliable than the original Japanese text sadly.
It is completely uncalled for to use sarcasm against your interlocutors. If you read thoroughly and paid attention to what I had said, you would not be asking such questions because they have already been answered in my theory, unless you had trouble understanding what I said.
Lol oh I read it and I find it really shallow. It's not based on facts just on your interpretation of events. And I merely came up with my own interepretation which is my right.
This is not ‘Swiss cheese’ we're talking about. When you make claims, be sure to elaborate and back them up.
I already did but looks like you're deliberatly ignoring them, along with the fact that we don't have the full story.
Yes, that’s flying, as well. It is called ‘flying against his will’.
You seem to hold some bizarre notions about flying.Birds, bugs, planes, helicopters, and spacecrafts all use different methods of ‘flying’, yet they ‘fly’ nonetheless.
I was merely describing the mechanics, but sure you can continue to be a wise ass if that pleases you.
The idea that I had in mind was that Momo stood in Kaido’s way irreverently for some reason, and Kaido decided to either test his resolve or teach Momo to fear him by grabbing him and flying.
And that's supposed to be more convincing than what I said? What you're saying is that Kaido would be so easily angred by a small slight like that, that he would go out of his way to chase the samurais, not to mention he would literally traumatize a small child, just because he stepped in his way? I find that too much tbh.And it doesn't really fit with what was shown of his personality, he's a Yonko who wants to drag the world into war because he's bored, Momo and the samurai are nothing more than flies to him.
Many people agree with this theory not just ‘two’. Anybody with fundamental understanding of arithmetic can tell that much. You have made it abundantly clear to us that you are a hater of the theory.
I'm simply not convinced by it,which is understandable. We're all here to discuss the manga,we're bound to disagree on certain topics, and the goal is not to convince everyone, but maybe come closer to the truth while discussing it. But I can tell that you sure like all the praise, and that you treat people differently depending whether or not they liked your theory.
I connected many points in One Piece that are shrouded in mystery, and created a logical pattern. I supported everything I said by other events in the manga, whereas everything you say is based merely on wrong information, attention deficiency, prejudice against my theory, poor reasoning, stipulative usage of definitions and so forth. Even if what you said had been true, which is not, it would have been ‘inductively very weak’. My theory is cogent. Nothing of what you have said debunked anything in my theory. I allow you the freedom to carp as much as it takes, but it won’t change a thing because when I was creating this theory, I was also inquiring into the sense and credibility of every interpretation, connection, and conclusion I made.
Oh all hail Australopithecus, the guy who holds the truth about Kaido, even though we know nothing of his abilities, or we don't have a clear idea of the events that happened in the past in Wano. The fact is there is more than one way to interpret these events, just like there is more than one theory concerning Kaido's power. Anyone can connect the dots, but I often find that these people tend to look at things on the surface. Kin'emon hates dragons, he is being chased by DD and Kaido, hence Kaido is a dragon. It's a bit too predictable.When other elements show that there could be another valid theory, based on Kaido's appearance, as well as Momotaro's story that seems to be a great source of inspiration for Oda. The parallels between Momonosuke and Momotaro are too big to be ignored. Other things like the Admirals, Onigashima can be seen as clues. In the end him being an Oni fits more in that theme than let's say a dragon.
Don't worry I'm not gonna bother too much because clearly you are prejudiced against people who don't agree with you. Too bad I really thought it was well written, but you don't seem to have what it takes to really discuss this, you always try to belittle others opinions, and like to use fancy words to prove that you're the real deal. Well no matter how much you try to make it sound believable it if it's shallow it doesn't really help.And I can tell that you're not really open to theories other than your own, so why bother?
On this note, Sarabada!
This logic doesn't make sense. He could have grabbed Momo with his hand in human form and then later flew with him in his potential dragon form. He also had a small flashback with somebody's hand despite that never happening when he flew with Luffy, so his fear is probably not related to that time.
Again, we don't know the circumstances of what happened before Punk Hazard, so you can't say it's impossible.
Yeah we don't know the circumstances which is why we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves when assuming that Kaido grabbed Momo on his back for some obscure reason. I'd say given that that panel is as ambiguous as things can get, we don't know when or where it happened. I'm simply trying to imagine why Momo would be afraid of flying himself, he even denies he did it in before. To me it was right after he ate the artificial DF, and somewhere on PH he was grabbed by someone while he's flying, and that someone may or may not be Kaido. Why does it have to go one way and not another? I tried to explain things to you, but maybe you just don't want to see it.
We all know Doula's interest in Momo has nothing to do with his DF. What we know, however, is that it has a high chance of being related to Kaido.
The theory that Kin'emon and Momo aren't actually related is also popular and has hints too.
Well yeah so I doubt Momo's DF is a copy of Kaido's, as this theory seems to imply. Kaido and Momo's fruit being those of a dragon potentially mean that his DF was supposed to be a copy of Kaido's.
What part of Doula's design implies he's a puppeteer?
We only know he has a puppeteer theme because his ability was one of the first things we saw from him.
The only visual thematic Doula had was his animal of choice, the flamingo.
I mean, people once thought Monet was a Harpy Zoan, even though that wasn't the case. Marco certainly didn't look like a Phoenix, for example.
His whole personality is that of a puppeteer, and he uses everyone around him. And the fruit reflects that as well.He literally pulls the stings of people around him.
It's as if this theory is proved 100% when so far it's just assumptions, and there's more than one way to interpret certain elements of the story.
A personal vendetta is exactly what it says.
"Personal", as in person. Kin'emon definitely involved himself with a dragon.
And I explained how it can be personal.
Momo described pirates in a way that eerily fits Kaido. We know Kin'emon and Momo know Kaido as well.
I never said that they didn't know him, as a matter of fact if the island that Drake was on is Wano in winter like I think it is then Kaido took over Wano.That's why perhaps they flew from it.
No, the idea is that Kaido flew with his own powers and Momo somehow was involved.
Kaido could have kidnapped Momo and transported him while in a potential Dragon form. Thus, Momo was traumatized.
We know Doula had an interest in Momonosuke, but what interest was this? Considering that this wasn't explained in this arc, it's probably related to Kaido, who has connections with Doula and is being built up as the main villain of the next arcs.
Also, you can't say it's full of holes if you don't even know what happened.
I try not to get too excited about certain theories, knowing that there are many uncertainties. For starters in that page Luffy asks Momo to fly, however he's afraid even though he just flew earlier. The way it is worded suggests that Momo was the one flying, not someone else, and more importantly while he is flying a hand reaches out to him and a voice asked him who he is. If it is like you say and Kaido is the one flying then he should be in his dragon shape, which would make it virtually impossible for him to reach out his hand to grab Momo. Momo's fear of flight comes from his point of view, he's the one flying and getting grabed by someone, which effectively makes him terrified of ever flying again.
Doflamingo's(because that's his real name) interest comes way before Momo had the DF, in fact when Jora came in to retrieve him she didn't seem to know about him having the artificial DF. There are other ways to explain why Doflamingo is interested in Momo,and that are still linked to Kaido. If it's like I said earlier, that Kaido took over Wano then maybe Momo and the other samurais were on a mission to get help, but more importantly Momo might be more important than we might think. His dream is to become the Shogun of Wano, and what is a child doing with 3 other samurais on a mission? Why did they have to flee in the first place, and why would Kaido be interested in Momo of all people, when he's just a normal kid? Clearly there is a mystery going on with Momo and the samurais, I believe we might not know his true parentage, he might end up being a noble or some sort of important figure in Wano. After all Rebecca is a princess from her mother's side, while Kyros is a commoner, so it wouldn't be impossible for Momo to be the son of a noble woman and a samurai, Kin'emon.
Monet looks like a harpy, but that's not her fruit power, is it?
In fact, Zoans tend to not look like their animal of choice while in their original form. Kaido's Oni appearance along with his strength seems to be only thematic, which his crew also follows.
Oars and his descendant also share this thematic, though Kaido is much smaller than them.
Doflamingo's whole theme is that of a puppeteer. Are you going to pretend that this wasn't heavily implied through his DF? He literally pulled the strings of many characters, so if Oda leaves some clues in the design, we shouldn't completely ignore them, just because they're thematic.
I don't want the discussion to be monopolized by two people, it's clear that each person wants to believe in a certain theory and they try to find whatever clues they can get, even though everything doesn't click. I just said why I'm not convinced by this theory, there is more than one way to explain these two points on which this whole theory is based on.
Kin'emon has a vendetta against dragons, which is only possible if he had a personal bad experience with one.
Doesn't make sense to hold a grudge against a being that was killed years ago.
Why not? Let's say the dragon went an a rampage, and killed many innocent lives? Pretty sure Kin has or had a wife, it's not hard to imagine the dragon killing her, and that could explain the personal vendetta part. Plus Wano could get regularily attacked by Dragons, in fact it could be the only place where dragons exist, since they're sealed off it would be very hard for the outside world to know about it.
I think that qualifies as personal vendetta as well, if that's the correct translation that is.
It also goes in hand with his previous hatred of pirates.
Pirates are also hated in the Japanese culture, and Wano is the closest thing that come to Japan in the manga.And they were already chased by DD who is a pirate.
No, the idea here is that Momo had already flew beforehand with Kaido. It's implied through this page. We know that can't be Doula Mongo's hand as they never actually interacted going by Momo's Dressrosa flashback.
But when did that happen? The flying comes with the artificial DF, so what Kaido grabbed him on his back and decided to take him on a tour? It's full of holes.
He could be a dragon himself, which would explain why he's the strongest creature as well as his durability.
In which case, he would be like Chopper. An animal who eat a human fruit.
The horns aren't similar to the ones Dragons usually wear. They're more like Oars and Oars Jr's, in rl it would be like an elephant's tusk.
He's clearly not human, if he's from the same species as Oars and Oars Jr.
I find myself liking the Oni theory a lot more, if we follow the theme of Momotaro's story which is used as inspiration for the Admirals, as well as Momonosuke. Momo means peach, and Momoiro means pink in Japanese. It just happens that Momo's kimono is pink and he literally turns into a pink dragon.
Then we have a panel that looks awfully similar to Onigashima, or Oni Island if you prefer.
And the horns, as well as the shimenawa, it seems that Kaido's appearance is based on an Oni.
It's more because of Kin'emon's own dislike of dragons, and Momonosuke apparently having a flying experience beforehand (and it's implied he already met Kaido too).
Plus, Kaido's name being a reference to a dragon road.
I don't like repeating myself, I already tried to explain the bit about Kin and his dislike of dragons. Since Ryuma is confirmed to be the same Ryuma from Monsters, I think Oda fused both stories by having a dragon terrorize Wano before getting killed by Ryuma, that's where he earned his title of Wano's greatest hero.Logically all the people from Wano should hate dragons if things went like this.
As for the bit with Mononosuke it's not accurate. If we're going to assume that the flying ability is tied to his DF, then that event would have happened only after he ate it in PH, and I have a hard time imagining Kaido coming himself to PH, and grabbing Momo in the air…
No Kaido is a road or highway, the dragon part is just added to make this theory more believable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaidō
Plus Kaido's name is written in Katakana, not Kanji.
How can we explain Kaido's race, if on top of that he turns out to be a Dragon? I think his race has a role to play in his durability, not just his DF.
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I just think that a lot of the fans want to see a Dragon DF ever since we heard of the mythical Zoans.I'm not sure but I think at one point it was Dragon himself who was believed to be a Dragon DF user. It prolly has to do with the fact that he's seen manipulating weather, and Japanese dragons are water deities that are associated with rainfall and such. And the name too,but it's not very subtle
Would be funny if it turns out he's not a user, or has a rather lame DF
I don't especially like the idea of a Dragon DF, it would either be too hax or too boring,dragons are everywhere in mangas these days and I still wonder why DD was after Momonosuke. Clearly it's not about the failed artificial DF, so there's more to the story than just Momonosuke's DF being a copy of Kaido's.
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@Shobu:
Devil Fruit? Nahh, if he has it, more easier to him to suicide.
There was a threat in the Void Century, something dangerous enough to terrorize the most advanced civilization in History. It was the reason of the creation of the Ancient Weapons that very thing, and a my theory is that Kaido comes down from that thing…
Why not Uranus, the third weapon? It still hasn't shown up, so there's that possibility too.
Tis no train of hype ma Lady. Tis a train of truth!
And you must be the number 1 supporter of this theory
Thank you for reading.
Thanks for posting this theory. I can tell you spent a good amount of time to write it.
It might be possible, however I'm not convinced. There are other ways to explain why Kin'emon hates dragons. I remember reading somewhere that Ryuma became Wa no's greatest hero after defeating a dragon. If Wa no was attacked by a dragon this might explain why he hates them, and the same can be said about all the Wa no citizens .
As for Kaido being the one catching Momo, are we sure he was flying at that time? We already saw that he suffered from hallucinations, due to hunger. And another thing that bothers me is when did that happen exactly? If Momo can fly thanks to the Artificial DF made by Vegapunk, then when did Kaido catch him up in the sky? Was it on PH? If anything it looks like they encountered Kaido back in Wa no, then left to look for help , with their goal set initially to Zou.I don't think Momo was able to fly before he consumed the Artificial DF, and actually it's not really flying, he steps on the clouds he creates which emulates the flying effect.
I simply am not on board the Dragon DF hype train.
What so great about a rubber monkey beating an insect,(morgan),squashing a fly(biggy), who tame's a feline(kuro), abuse a beetle(krieg), crush a sail fish(arlong), quiet a tired croc(crocodile),fix a spring, frighten slim shady(enel), bathe a pussy cat with fist shower(lucci), gangbang a fat, lazy, broken vampire(moria),got slapped silly by a bear(kuma), became the love interest of a sexy snake, survived the poisen of a venoumous goat, got slammed by a hog, got tossed around by the seagull, got trained by a knight, got impersonated by a non venoumous coral, let the sea gull panic, bully a shark on sterroids, join up with a tiger, got spared by a blind purple tiger, de feather a flamingo…....... reunite with dragon breathe...... hmmmm well its pretty darn cool ha! Watch it and read it with a DON.
That sir is an epic post.
@jabso:
maybe he has no eyes. Just endless holes of despair and fury
Haha that would be interesting as well.
I can't wait to know what DD's eyes look like. Will they be mismatched?
http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/TBD-789.0/compressed/i001.jpg
In this image we see Shanks drinking coffee with a dog, right? Well, no. It's just a human customer who ordered smile to eat with his coffee and then transformed. And who's this customer?
Which smoker we know is associated with dogs?
Yes, you're right - Monkey D. Garp.
The dog is clearly Akainu, he was seen smoking in before
We could say it's a match in heaven. Akagami-Akainu. Fits imo.
I'm late to the party lol, but I just want to say how awesome Gear 4 is. Maybe the design isn't appealing at first, but you get used to it. But it's pretty damn effective if you ask me, seeing how DD is getting destroyed by it hehe.
Since Luffy came up with this gear to fight the giant beasts of Rusukaina, he could have came up with it much earlier in his training. I wonder if there's a possiblity he came with Gear 5, although right now it hardly seems necessary.Gear 4 should be enough to take out DD.
Btw I'm new here :)
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Hi I'm new to the forums. I was looking for a nice place to discuss OP, and this site looked pretty nice.
Hope I will enjoy my stay here :)