character development is hugely different from gaining new abilities. chopper and nami's new abilities just kind of appeared, with very little exposition. usopp, even when he's not doing anything but being weak, is often revealing more about his character and his growth. the whole thing with him leaving the crew at water 7 was essentially just usopp development, with a little luffy (the pain of being a captain) and zoro (role as first mate) thrown in.
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
oda definitely seems to have a weakness for usopp. doesn't it seem he gives more character development to the long nosed sniper than almost anyone else (after their initial back story)? maybe its because usopp has the longest way to go to be a monstrous fighting force like the rest. but if that's true, i'm surprised he doesn't have more for characters like nami and chopper!
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
@Cyringohn:
Using numbers and counter particles isn't considered a "plural form", since you're being forced to specifically state a quantity using separate words.
But yeah, it can really be either way. S'all up to interpretation.
i didn't say that using numbers or counters was a "plural form", but that with people there are plural form suffixes like "-tachi" that IMPLY multiplicity. i wasn't disagreeing with you.
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
that's true unless you use numbers with items but people can have add-ons that imply multiple numbers. because usopp is the only one really dealing with ghosts and it was the big event of the chapter, ghost buster just seems more appropriate. that's just my opinion tho. because its katakana and referring to an english phrase, i guess it could go either way.
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
@Ao:
It says Ghost Buster on my version..
the title of the thread here and the link to the thread on arlong park all say ghost busters.
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
i have a quick question. according to the katakana of the title it looks to me like "gousuto basutaa" or "ghost buster." so why has the accepted title been "ghost busterS?"
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
finally! i much prefer my OP in japanese over chinese… at least i have a fighting chance, however slim, of doing my own translations that way. :) and all that designer jojo clothing, although charming on chopper, is a major turnoff.
ps: admiral wolfpox, i like yr garp ball and chain theory. you're not alone.
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
I would hope logia… I wouldn't want luffy eating any chocolate pudding being excreted from someone's body. blegh! Edit: sounds like a german scheize video.
qft. werd. besides, wouldn't luffy be more weak to a meat meat fruit? and i don't even want to think about pieces of meat being excreted…. shudder
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
uh oh… Devil Fruit Wars have begun again!
this season:
LOGIA VS. PARAMECIA (who will stand tall as the greater force?!)and later...
OXYGEN VS. NITROGEN (expect an EXPLOSIVE match!)
finally…
BREATH VS. GAS (can your sense of smell save you from ANNHILIATION?!?)
DON!
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
i bet a million berri that perona will have some more trouble up her sleeve. no one gets the enel face for being a wimp. she's probably just never met anyone who was immune before (which is frankly a little surprising…) i don't know why, but having shitty self esteem does make usopp pretty bad ass.
boiga: why would breath be flammable and smell like sakura petals??
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RE: Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
awesome avatar, beansdooma.
i was wondering what franky was doing… hilarious! i love him more and more!
everyone keeps saying, "chopper has to fight hogback, jigoroh and dogpen" but robin's there too! what's with the assumption that she's only going to fight cindry? robin's been known to have male adversaries and in fact, she's kind of already taken care of the plate thrower...
i guess the spoiler text turned out to be true! time to start sauteing my shorts...
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RE: Vol. 46 Discussion Thread
been waiting for this one. a bit disappointed that it's just the jump cover (especially since i went to all the trouble to buy the magazine in japan town because i liked it so much–and now it's on the volume too), but brooke looks great, and i LOVE his colors. i kind of figured him to be almost entirely black and white, and his clothes and purple cane reveal a lot of his fun personality.
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RE: Chapter 460 "Get Back Before Dawn!!"
Feel free not to but Oz (As in the Wizard of) in Japanese isn't オーズ it's オズ. Don't believe it?
http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/4499281199.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
And looking up オーズ in Japanese Wiki reveals:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BAThe husband of Freyja and one of the many spellings of Odin.
that's interesting, i just kind of figured that Oz in japanese would be オーズ but you have proof right there. my understanding of japanese (although only two semesters worth) is that the ー after オ extends the vowel "o" sound to "ou." If there was one of these little ツ guys after the オ then i would understand the consonant being extended as "Ozzu" or "Odz."
however, Oda is known for his obscure naming references, especially to mythology, the name is very apropos, and i don't really see an English spelling equivalent of "Ouzu" so you win: "Odz" it is. :happy:
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RE: Chapter 460 "Get Back Before Dawn!!"
sorry, boiga. meant to, but forgot the second part of my post. just a mistake. but super rad of you to point it out, aniki! :P
also: how do we know Oz (i don't know when this "Odz" thing started and i refuse to take part) didn't respond? as far as i know the last image was Oz's face pointed towards the strawhats nearby, eyes all shadowy. he COULD be asleep, and he COULD be ready to kick some ass. all i was saying was that he does have reason to be pissed. we won't know for sure until the next chapter.
unless you have access to Oda's studio and you aren't telling us.
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RE: Chapter 460 "Get Back Before Dawn!!"
@Fire Fist:
It's pretty much a given they're gonna need a pilot (helmsman). Some dude who can work the helm and navigate through dynamic conditions. As Nami proved in the DBF, she can navigate static conditions, but not Dynamic ones. And in most cases, she needs the help of the crew to drive the ship. We need a guy who can move the helm and steer through stuff like narrow straits or major storms with no issues, without Nami's guidance.
really, its a given? i never thought of that… i always figured a helmsman just listened to the navigator and could be anyone... but i definitely see your point. you know who would be a good helmsman... ahem... ace! too bad he's gungho on the whitebeard and quite possibly was incapacitated by blackbeard!
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RE: Chapter 460 "Get Back Before Dawn!!"
-We have no assurance that odz is an enemy to the strawhats yet. I'm still expecting tha the'll ask them to become his nakama in his initial greeting. It really would be out of Luffy's character to pick a fight with people he hardly knows, so why should we expect differently from Odz?
i totally agree. only problem: zoro and franky just stuck a whole buncha metal into his side. that's seems like picking a fight to me.
as for this usopp thing… it does seem like an easy solution, but i think we should wait out how this turns out. i could totally see OZ helping the strawhats and then having to say a tearful goodbye at the end, or being harder to catch then we think and more of a recurring hassle (like the snake from skypiea as someone said). i doubt that Oda would go to all the trouble to create OZ's design only to have him destroyed so quickly. and as much as everyone hates that usopp didn't get his own real fight in enies lobby, i still think he was hugely integral to it being pulled off succesfully... he was no wimp, and robin would have been screwed without his help. i'm SURE he'll get his own fight this arc, though.
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RE: Chapter 460 "Get Back Before Dawn!!"
@ultimateclima:
I can't believe its already been 5 months since this arc first started. At this rate this arc will end by the end of this year.
i'm hoping it will end on halloween… even better, christmas. :) actually now that all the plot set up/mystery of the island is taken care of, i'm betting it will start taking off really quickly now.
i have a general question. say brooke does join the crew, as a musician...
what other types of crewmates would be needed after that? i can't think of any other ship roles, other than just some interesting characters/fighters. artist? isn't that sort of usopp? i ask this because luffy said he wants 10 members way back in the beginning and brooke would be the 9th. any ideas? -
RE: Chapter 460 "Get Back Before Dawn!!"
I like the idea ("Watch out! Behind you!" throws enemy at enemy "Ah, thanks!") but Jigorou is watching Absalom's wedding together with the other generals, so I think it's not possible.
:sad:ah, what a shame! maybe it will happen after sanji et al disrupt the wedding?! i hope i hope!
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RE: Chapter 460 "Get Back Before Dawn!!"
please Oda, answer my team fan-service plea:
nami and sanji vs. absalom. the two of them kicking his ass (maybe nami finds a weakness to his invisibility) while she wears a wedding dress.
robin and chopper vs. pelona and hogback (chopper weakens pelona with his cuteness and robin finishes the job! robin weakens hogback with her beauty and chopper finishes the job)
zoro and brooke vs. ryuuma and jigoroh (that's a given, but at the SAME TIME, in the SAME room?!?!)
franky and usopp vs. Oz (usopp knows Luffy's weaknesses and franky's got the needed strength and both have long distance attacks to combat his size)
while Luffy beats Moria, of course. :)
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RE: Chapter 460 "Get Back Before Dawn!!"
love your avatar carly, and i have to agree: the little faces on p. 14 are the best!
here's my prediction: Oz will fight the strawhats that just landed (who's known Luffy to ever miss a chance at a fight??), then someone will do something funny or cool (i really want to see Oz's eyes go big and sparkly and say "sugeeeeee") and he'll actually start liking them. think about how quickly Luffy has liked all his crew and asked them to join (except Robin)! maybe Oz will even help Luffy and the crew defeat Moria. only problem: Oz is not going to want to ever lose, or ever give up anything once he sets his sights on it… i'm talking nakama here.
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RE: Translation: 459 SPOILER- kudou
wonderful translation kudou! one of the best i've seen in awhile. not only did you not miss anything, but there is life in the words. i could hear each character saying it exactly as you wrote it. very appreciated! :)
sad that there's no chapter next week, but this chapter was so good that it almost makes up for it. go mugiwaras! save nami and brooke!
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RE: Chapter 456 "Demon from the Frozen Land" Discussion
firefistace, about our conversation earlier.
if anyone reading this hasn't read up to chapter 395… potential spoiler:
in chapter 395, professor clover talks about the ancient civilization that made the poneglyphs to send the message to the future about their enemy, the world government. and that place, that houses the rio poneglyph, is a country that he almost mentions before being shot. if that's not raftel, i'll eat my shorts.
i can't find it, but i could swear someone has actually said it's in raftel, too. i don't see why i would make that up in my head.
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RE: Chapter 455 "King of the Depths: The Shichibukai - Gekko Moria" Discussion
Awesome Chapter~
Totally skipping the point of the chapter, I love how much Luffy's eating ability has grown. He ate those steel bars in record time! XD
ha! yeah, now that you mention it, when luffy got stuck in a cage back when he first met buggy he was totally unable to chew through those bars, but this time it took no time at all. luffy's chompers=level UP.
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RE: Chapter 454 "Humming" Discussion
would prefere cross dresser or leave it as Okama to tranny or trap to be honest.
the later 2 imo kinda ruins the atmosphere as they are really negativly charged and nothing someone would really call themselves like that.
i completely agree with gorlom on this point. first time i read it, i wasn't even sure what a "trap" was, had never heard the term before. i thought okama just means gay, right? but i suppose it's a japanese stereotype oriented implication that all okama like dressing like women? mr. 2 bon clay certainly enjoyed his gender-bending and referred to himself as an okama.
so maybe okama means cross-dresser? can anybody explain?as for the robin stuff, gorlom. i understand your opinion, but i think there are significant limitations on her power and can be certainly intelligent and creative with it, but i've never really considered her a "brilliant tactician". she's intelligent and that plays into her attacks, often finding a weak spot, but i don't really see her on a tactical level above any of the other mugiwaras. if anything, i'd give that role to either nami or usopp, who often have to resort to brains and trickery to defeat their opponents.
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RE: Chapter 454 "Humming" Discussion
I know im probably overreacting but i was really hopeing she wouldn't behave so odd (inconsistant) since she finally settled in among the strawhats
what's with the robin hate? she's lasted longer in thriller bark than the strawhat heavyweights sanji, luffy and zoro. and she got caught by the spiders in manner very similar to how they did–by surprise. furthermore, doesn't she have to cross her hands to sprout hands? she can't just get out of every situation and make it happen by sheer willpower.
this happens often with anime/manga, i've noticed. people get pissed if a character isn't a badass ALL the time. like shinji from NGE. how would that be interesting, if there is no room for growth, for error, for human complication? usopp and robin are a couple of the best characters in one piece, imo, because of the complexity of their characters and how they've grown throughtout the story. sometimes i wish we could see more of that in characters like zoro and sanji.
so she got caught. you hate luffy for getting caught too?
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RE: Chapter 454 "Humming" Discussion
like every potential nakama before, a war has begun. and both sides have valid points, but why get all upset about it? we really won't know until Oda tells us so, and be sure he'll throw us for a few loops along the way.
i remember people saying franky would never join and usopp would never come back to the crew up until the chapter in which they (re)joined, and even then certain people were doubtful. there's always a reason for thinking otherwise, but i think we can all agree that when it comes to one piece, there are very few reliable "rules" when it comes to what can happen.
but for the record, i'm on the pro-brooke side. :)
we've only seen him do one attack (so who knows whether or not he's a "swordsman"), he's a musician, and luffy has vowed to help him. what else do you need? and even if he doesn't stay on the crew, he'll make a helluva temporary strawhat a la vivi. -
RE: Chapter 454 "Humming" Discussion
brooke can fight, and he uses a sword… this does not make me believe that brooke won't be joining now. in fact, i think there's even more of an argument for him joining the crew if he starts fighting with the mugiwaras. his great personality (oda would not waste a character this interesting and funny and already set up with how he will interact with the others ie. hitting on nami, pissing off sanji, franky calling him skeleton, usopp being afraid, etc), his unique sword/sound fighting style, his role as a musician, his devil fruit ability, the hilarity of how people will respond to him on other islands, they all point to him joining the crew. can there be only one person who uses swords to fight on the thousand sunny? i don't think so. plus, it normally looks like a cane, which makes me think he's the perfect match for fighting Laffitte on blackbeard's crew (we all know that's in the future).
just conjecture on my part, but one thing is for sure now. ryuuma got his fighting style from brooke, not his past life (which was a red herring since he was a swordsman--good job oda). THUS all zombies reanimated get their fighting style AND their personalities from their stolen shadows. which makes sense--they'd just be dead without the shadow reanimation process.
great chapter, franky would have owned it if it wasn't for the last page. and nami pretending to be okama is priceless. can't wait to see how the voice actress handles it on the anime.
once perona went on the sunny looking for the mugiwaras' treasure, one thing cemented. nami vs. perona is so gonna happen.
ps: great coloring jobs Captain Brooke in your signature and avatar. did you do them, and if not, who did?
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RE: The Future of One Piece anime…In America! FUNIMATION TAKES OVER!
eh kinda stuipd but will the fart dials still be fart dials? XD
i'm like 99% sure you're joking but wasn't it just an odor dial and the odor that was put in that certain time a fart? the dial's only power wasn't making a fart smell (can't remember… who did that, usopp or luffy??)... and i'd highly doubt any company passing up such a great universal joke.
climate baton sounds ok to me, too. makes more sense then climtact, in english anyway.
FUNimation getting the One Piece license is the best news i've heard in a long time. let's just hope unlimited adventure comes to the US without any characters removed like the last couple one piece games.
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RE: Chapter 452: "Jigoro of the Wind" Discussion
oh, and i don't think saulo could be moria at all. first of all, the size of eyes. saulo had little eyes, moria's eyes are freakin' huge. plus saulo worked for the marines before betraying them, i don't think he would be a shichibukai and work in cahoots with the world gov't after what happened at ohara.
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RE: Chapter 452: "Jigoro of the Wind" Discussion
Amaaaa~zing chapter!
Luffy's caught. He's either gonna break out before getting his shadow stolen or we'll see a zombie with Luffy's personality soon (which would be hilarious, especially if it tries to do gomu gomu no [fill in the blank]).
Robin and Franky fighting a giant spider monkey. Enough said. Nice to see Robin not getting humiliated for chapters on end. Franky is hilarious as always. Gotta love the bucket frame and his "cyborg's travelling heart" song.
Zoro zombie Jigoroh/Gigolo. Perfect. Zoro kinda has the personality of a grumpy old guy anyway. Let's see what happens if PengiSanji and JigoZoro meet up.
Strawhats are pretty much backed into a corner. That means either a) we get to see them beaten up even more before making a comeback (i always enjoy the furthering of drama, oda style).
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b) the comeback starts next week. Either way, i feel brooke making an appearance soon… and I have a feeling Team Usopp is destined for some greatness. Great arc. Can't wait to see it animated.
thanks for the translation as usual, rockshmock.
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RE: Chapter 451 "Perona's Wonder-Garden" Discussion
Ha! Good find, but who's the girl next to Lee though?
i don't know if anyone told you yet…but it's the girl character for the upcoming "dragon quest swords" coming out on the wii. i think her name is seteiya or something like that.
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RE: Chapter 449 - "The Mysterious Four of Thriller Bark"
i hate to burst your bubble, but it looks to me like a plain, indistinguished piece of wood. the area in question is in the center of your avatar, and a little above usopp's foot, no?
yeah, it's just a piece of wood, as far as i can tell… and i looked long and hard. sorry.
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RE: Chapter 449 - "The Mysterious Four of Thriller Bark"
However, considering the black skin and the window pattern on his outfit, I'm fairly confident that Gecko Moria has a Window Paramecia that allows him to redirect the flow of light any way that he desires. What is a shadow other than a blockage in the path of light? Gecko's powers allow him to turn people into "windows" that allow light to pass freely through them (except for the angles of light that someone will see them.) This explains the burning up in sunlight by causing direct UV radiation to inner organs as the light pass through.
Oh, and CodedTech Gecko does have 5 fingers on his right hand. So while he has sharp fingers, they're not exactly crab claws.
that's the best theory that's been offered yet, imo. since the arc is definitely inspired by nightmare before christmas, i would find it really surprising if gecko moria just was filled with shadows, especially since he just showed us blackbeard's DF at work… and darkness is awfully similar to shadows. if he did eat tons of shadows, how does that give him strength other than being big? he would have to use the shadows, and once again that's a lot like BB. maybe i'm wrong, but i bet his powers will be something off-kilter, like what boiga is saying.
also, i just picked up this issue of shonen jump at my local kinokuniya, and being able to look at all the pics up close and do translation myself, i've come to the following conclusions:
-sanji is calling the old man "jijii" and not franky. zoro is the only one chastising franky... his and sanji's eyes are looking in different directions, not the same.
-if team usopp says the guardian looked like brooke with skin, how would they know, considering they've only seen him as a skeleton, what he would look like skin? the only clue would be the laugh and of course, the afro. so the guy must be at least brooke related if he laughs like him and has his hair. also the guardian has a distinctly japanese feel to him with the wooden sandals and the ratty kimono, which is very different from brooke's british gentleman/hair-metal look... interesting.
-both perona and absalom seem to have to tell the zombies what to do, considering they are "zombie generals". so if they have to stay on the island because of what moria or hogback did to them and are happy when luffy talks of kicking moria's ass, then it appears that moria doesn't "fill them with shadows and control them" as many people are theorizing. to some extent they have their own free will.
-perona is completely motionless until the ghosts return to her and some have smiles and some have frowns. hmmm... that weird teddy bear guy is actually bigger than she is when she finally stands up, which adds to the doll theory, and the ghosts seem to give off bubbles when coming out of her leg... like califa's soap paramecia type.
-moria doesn't have a crab claw... it's just a sharp pointed hand, like hogback. also, if that thing by moria's head is a pillow, why is half of his face invisible/hazy? it's more than just obscured by darkness... it just isn't there, similar to when absalom appears from being invisible. adds to the whole "window" idea.
some of this may have already been said... just a one piece nerd, making my own theories. what do you guys think?
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RE: Chapter 449 - "The Mysterious Four of Thriller Bark"
@Rai:
One thing I always wanted in One Piece is that some DFs will have limitations and requirments they have to fill. For example, Flamingo being able to manipulate only 2 people, but can manipulate them for stuff that Oda can choose. Like that, Perona's ability is to produce ghosts, or only one ghost, that duplicates while dancing. And the difference between getting a positive one or negative one is simply luck. That adds a little color to the opponent too, I think it's better than having a ultimate power like the rest of the opponents so far.
Isn't this what Oda has done with every enemy ever? They always appear outrageously strong, nearly unstoppable, and then Luffy or someone else in the crew figures out their weakness and/or limitations. I don't think I need to list examples. I also don't think I've ever seen one DF user that didn't have a major limitation (except for maybe Lucci)–but let's not forget the vulnerability to the ocean, as well.
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RE: Chapter 449 - "The Mysterious Four of Thriller Bark"
three cheers for ivotas!
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RE: Chapter 449 - "The Mysterious Four of Thriller Bark"
ugh, what terrible raws. are all of those jojo… logos really necessary? i guess i shouldn't complain, it's amazing that we get them this soon as it is… hopefully better ones will surface.
interesting chapter. not really sure what happened between uso/nami/cho saying "brooke?" and crashing into the lab. did he push them in or did they run in just upon seeing him? can't wait to see moria in action, and i like the idea of moria being a child giant, or something similar, makes a lot of sense with the theme of the arc. it'll be interesting to see how the battles pan out... i bet it won't be quite as predictable as it's been shaping up. i mean, who guessed that robin would take out Yama in Skypiea?
as for the brooke theory that he doesn't really exist... it's possible but improbable. mark my words... brooke will end up a crew member. he might not look like a skeleton when he joins, but he'll join. it definitely won't be as simple as just defeating moria though. brooke's shadow being stolen might make him controllable, or the shadow might be evil until returned to it's rightful owner.
anyway... great character design as always, oda-sensei. my personal favorite is the ghost princess: perona. one of the weirdest looking girls he's made yet.
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RE: Chapter 447: "Surprise Zombie" Discussion
i don't think cindry was a noblewoman OR a maid. i bet she was a movie star or an actress, based on all the types of outfits she's wearing… she also looks a little similar to nami, which means nami's in trouble... but we already knew that, what with all she's been through already.
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RE: Chapter 447: "Surprise Zombie" Discussion
that cartoony ghost thing is Perona, not Absalom. we still haven't seen him.
hilarious chapter, btw. thanks for the translation rocky.
i don't think dr. hogback gets the monsters to work for him, i think he created them and they do his bidding because he is their master. a whole, "island of dr. moreau" thing. i bet you the chapter will end with all the zombies turning against him, though. :)
exciting to see how this will turn out. usopp has been pretty good despite this being his worst nightmare, and the girls' outfits are smokin… i like the lacey things.
finally, i don't know why everyone is so confused about the devil fruit thing. only a few fruits are known and their picture is displayed somewhere, although the reason these fruits are known remains unclear. other than that every single fruit is different and a mystery. nowhere has oda-sensei even hinted that one grows back when a user dies.
can't wait to see brooke fighting, whenever he turns up again!!
who knew robin was an animal lover?
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RE: Chapter 443 "Thriller Bark" Discussion
oh, and the sinker, the PROOF that brooke is going to join:
he was the MUSICIAN on his old ship!!!!
hasn't luffy being asking for a musician since day one!?
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RE: Chapter 443 "Thriller Bark" Discussion
Pwnage, downloading now!
Edit: Great chapter, looking forward to the scanlations. I predict that Brook has his shadow stolen by Blackbeard, and only if the Strawhats get it back, he'll join the crew. BTW, Brook pwned hard in this chapter.
Meh, it could happen.
i totally agree! blackbeard totally took brooke's shadow, however inadvertently. maybe was even the one that killed his crew. can't be a coincidence that we just learned of BB's devil fruit ability, the sucking in of anything and everything, including shadows. brooke will totally join after they beat blackbeard (possibly save ace), get his shadow and he can go out into the sun again.
oda-san is a f-ing genius. i didn't think he could make a better character than franky, and then pow! he pops out brooke. can't wait to see how he fights.