WWE and other fed: Disccusion

LinkG07

It's actually ironic that Vicky would accuse AJ of fraternizing when she got married to a superstar (Edge) while she was a GM.

Its EXTREMELY ironic that she's currently kayfabe dating/managing Dolph Ziggler, making this whole storyline insanely pointless and stupid.

LinkG07

That stupid AJ/Cena storyline should've been obliterated when he mention how Vicki was involved in 'hanky panky' with both Edge and Dolph Ziggler. "You can't put this on me" she say? She does realize that what she did was far worse and out in the open to the public right? Completely stupid writing at its finest.

Rebecky_Mo

What the HELL is this Brad Maddox guy wearing? Too tight pants and a too tight vest over a plaid shirt…

AND HIS EYEBROW. WHAT.

You just know he's gonna win that stupid million dollar contract next week somehow.

Sano

Seriosuly… WWE, that entire segment with Heyman and Punk wasn't funny.

Rebecky_Mo

I'm sorry, but is anyone else here really not okay with them SHOWING VIDEO OF JERRY LAWLER WHEN HE WAS DYING BACKSTAGE ON ***ING TELEVISION?!?! THEY TAPED THAT SHIT 9 WEEKS AGO WHAT THE HELL?!?!

I know he's fine and everything now, but SERIOUSLY?!?!

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaand now they're doing this crap with Punk, Heyman and Lawler. I'm sure Lawler ok'd it knowing him, and I shouldn't be surprised considering it's WWE. But wow. WOW.

Sano

I wasn't fine with them showing that, it was rather creepy as heck. I know, King is fine and stuff, but it was something that fans didn't need to be shown. My major problem was that entire segment with Punk and Heyman was a umcomfortable to me. I'm sure, King was fine with it. But just creepy that they putting this in a storyline.

Rebecky_Mo

Seven years after his death, we still miss Eddie Guerrero. We still remember.

killerbee1000

Well, that's one way to get a lot of heat from the audience.

LinkG07

Great, first its the whole stupid "scandel" story line, where they sweep Vicky boinking all of her assistants and workers under the rug, now they go and make fun of Jerry Lawler having a near fatal heart attack. Guess you really have to keel over in order to get some respect and be off lim- oh wait!

loneassassin

The election's over so there was no surprise on my part to see this happen

LinkG07

Now that my rage for WWE's stupid writing has subsided, (for now) lets talk about Miz's face turn. I'm on board with it. Ever since WWE dropped the blame hammer on Miz for losing a chunk of sales ever since that whole Wrestlemania 2011 concussion fiasco, a face turn might save his career from further obscurity. The crowd can easily get behind him and he has plenty of merchandise to sell so I say go for it.

That or he'll get the same curse that Kofi Kingston has. Here's hoping.

Rebecky_Mo

Cody Rhodes was injured while taping a match for WWE Main Event on Tuesday night, with no word as to whether he'll be competing at Survivor Series tomorrow night. He says no surgery will be required though, so that's good.

LinkG07

Has survivor series become the ppv where people just get screwed over, like some sort of sick tradition? Cause that was terrible.

! CM Punk is still your WWE Champion… Good god somebody please make it stop.

loneassassin

@LinkG07:

Has survivor series become the ppv where people just get screwed over, like some sort of sick tradition? Cause that was terrible.

! CM Punk is still your WWE Champion… Good god somebody please make it stop.

Why this was the only option. Would you rather Ryback was champ? Or Cena with his millionth reign

Sano

I'm happy that Tyler Black is finally is in the main roster now.

LinkG07

@loneassassin:

Why this was the only option. Would you rather Ryback was champ? Or Cena with his millionth reign

Because its not entertaining. CM Punk is not entertaining anymore. He's just a cookie cutter cowardly heel now and that makes me wanna just claw the paint off my walls. Its to the point where I don't even care if he loses the championship anymore because now The Rock, the one man hype machine who shows up every blue moon, is gonna take it from him. Yay? Frankly, I don't care if Cena is champion again, in fact, I like Cena as champion and welcome that idea. Its a helluva lot better than have Mr. 365 days prance around the ring with his fingers in his ears going "Best in the world LALALALALALA Best in the world!"

Sano

I'm still enjoying Punk and Heyman stuff recently. It just the stuff from last week with the King was stupid.

Rebecky_Mo

Punk'll probably hold the title until around the new year; WWE likes doing something big for the last show of the year, and breaking Punk's year+ streak would do it.

I coud've done without the 'eating' shitck in the promo, but Ryback seems to have gotten better on the mic. (God, poor Albert. Tensai is failing so badly)

LinkG07

I dunno what happened with Tensai/Albert. They gave him this monster push like they did Umaga years ago, then all of a sudden he's losing to Tyson Kidd? Not to knock Kidd, but he should NOT be beating Tensai clean without tremendous build up. Come to think of it, WWE is really downplaying their super heavyweights. The only super heavyweights who actually been pushed for their size and strength have been Big Show and Mark Henry, but that's only cause of their seniority. While Clay and Tensai are getting treated like garbage.

Rebecky_Mo

Brodus is stuck in the same spot as Santino and Zach Ryder; they're popular because they're fun, but they won't be taken as a serious contender. And poor Tensai's gimmick never took off, unfortunately. Once WWE realized it, they ended his win streak and had him jobbing to guys like Tyson Kidd to show he'd 'lost his stuff'. Ugh.

Meanwhile, Canada is FINALLY moving the WWE RAW start time to 8:15PM starting Dec. 10th. I won't have to avoid the forum as much during broadcasts (stupid spoilers! D:) and I won't have to stay up until 12:30am to see the end of RAW and drag my ass out of bed the next day!

EDIT: Oops, John just rolled his ankle chasing after Ziggler. Hopefully that's not going to be an injury…

KaizokuJinbei

@Rebecky_Mo:

Brodus is stuck in the same spot as Santino and Zach Ryder; they're popular because they're fun, but they won't be taken as a serious contender. And poor Tensai's gimmick never took off, unfortunately. Once WWE realized it, they ended his win streak and had him jobbing to guys like Tyson Kidd to show he'd 'lost his stuff'. Ugh.

Meanwhile, Canada is FINALLY moving the WWE RAW start time to 8:15PM starting Dec. 10th. I won't have to avoid the forum as much during broadcasts (stupid spoilers! D:) and I won't have to stay up until 12:30am to see the end of RAW and drag my ass out of bed the next day!

EDIT: Oops, John just rolled his ankle chasing after Ziggler. Hopefully that's not going to be an injury…

edit: nevermind Cole just said he may have a partially torn miniscus

Rebecky_Mo

@KaizokuJinbei:

edit: nevermind Cole just said he may have a partially torn miniscus

Now is this just them making it worse than it is to work it into the storyline, or a genuine thing? Hmmm…

But seriously? This Cena/AJ/Guerrero/Ziggler storyline just keeps getting worse and worse for me. The AJ-shaming is really not sitting well with me here, especially after the AJ/Ziggler confrontation in the locker room and the "trash" comment. Is this just me and my 'Woman's POV', or what?

LinkG07

@Rebecky_Mo:

Now is this just them making it worse than it is to work it into the storyline, or a genuine thing? Hmmm…

But seriously? This Cena/AJ/Guerrero/Ziggler storyline just keeps getting worse and worse for me. The AJ-shaming is really not sitting well with me here, especially after the AJ/Ziggler confrontation in the locker room and the "trash" comment. Is this just me and my 'Woman's POV', or what?

No no, I'm pretty much sick to my stomach with this storyline cause its still going on. I can not say this enough: Vicki has ZERO right to be accusing someone of having an affair.

bountyhunter

Haven't been paying the closest attention recently because the whole Vickie thing has been terrible, but isn't she just accusing two single people of going on a date? Even if she's right, who gives a shit?

Raw GM should be Heyman. He is the best part of the show.

Rebecky_Mo

@bountyhunter:

Haven't been paying the closest attention recently because the whole Vickie thing has been terrible, but isn't she just accusing two single people of going on a date? Even if she's right, who gives a shit?

Raw GM should be Heyman. He is the best part of the show.

Vickie's thing isn't that AJ and Cena supposedly went on a date/slept together, it's that they allegedly hooked up while AJ was the RAW GM/Cena's boss, thereby making it an inappropriate relationship. Which is incredibly stupid, considering how many WWE stars Vickie's been in relationships with while a RAW/SmackDown GM (Edge, Big Show, and now Dolph Ziggler), and how often male GM's (and Vince McMahon himself) have constantly flirted with/'fraternized' with various WWE Divas on the shows.

Why is she and Ziggler still pushing this even after AJ lost her job as GM? Mostly to get under AJ and Cena's skins, I suppose. But it's not really going anywhere right now, since John is still a part of the Ryback/Punk feud as well. If they'd just get to a damn Ziggler/Cena PPV fight already, this thing can end, and they can focus on Ziggler cashing in his suitcase.

Speaking of Cena, WWE is talking like his injury on Monday was legit, but it's still being debated:

F4WOnline.com is reporting that John Cena's injury last night on Monday Night Raw is not real, and is part of a storyline. Currently, Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena is being penciled in for WWE TLC in December, and that Cena needs to be at a disadvantage for Ziggler to potentially go over. source

It appears there are conflicting reports circulating concerning John Cena's injury status. While we reported earlier this morning that according to F4WOnline.com, John Cena's Raw injury was in fact part of a story line, PWInsider.com is reporting that Cena's injury was legitimate, and that WWE had to shoot backstage segments with Cena live to incorporate the injury. source

Cena also tweeted that he had an MRI done, but they're vauge…

WZ reader Mickey Daniels sent in word that the advertised dark match main event of CM Punk vs John Cena, for the WWE Title, did NOT take place after Raw last night. Instead, WWE officials helped Ryback off the ground after the show went off the air, he headed to the back, and the show ended. This is a possible indication that John Cena was legitimately injured in some way as it's unusual for the dark match main events not to happen as advertised. source

killerbee1000

Ugh at this AJ/Vickie storyline. This is what happens when WWE hires shitty Hollywood writers.

killerbee1000

Out of all the members of the shield, Dean Ambrose is the best talker.

KaizokuFan22

@Rebecky_Mo:

Vickie's thing isn't that AJ and Cena supposedly went on a date/slept together, it's that they allegedly hooked up while AJ was the RAW GM/Cena's boss, thereby making it an inappropriate relationship. Which is incredibly stupid, considering how many WWE stars Vickie's been in relationships with while a RAW/SmackDown GM (Edge, Big Show, and now Dolph Ziggler), and how often male GM's (and Vince McMahon himself) have constantly flirted with/'fraternized' with various WWE Divas on the shows.

Why is she and Ziggler still pushing this even after AJ lost her job as GM? Mostly to get under AJ and Cena's skins, I suppose. But it's not really going anywhere right now, since John is still a part of the Ryback/Punk feud as well. If they'd just get to a damn Ziggler/Cena PPV fight already, this thing can end, and they can focus on Ziggler cashing in his suitcase.

I keep thinking its continuing so maybe AJ might snap at vickie and get fired,which is what vickie wants.. but for now…its just getting weird.

got to admit though, the whole Shield storyline is interesting.

LinkG07

Welp, they've done it. I turned off the TV. WWE has come full circle and has gotten to the point where I just don't care anymore. This happened a few years ago during the time when Randy Orton and John Cena were duking it out night in and night out. Someone, please tell me when CM Punk starts dropping pipe bombs/becomes entertaining again and Dolph Ziggler cashes in his suitcase. This is just ridiculous.

Rebecky_Mo

Yeah, to be honest I haven't been really watching for a few weeks now. I turn the TV on and watched the first hour seriously, but then I'd get bored and go on my computer with WWE playing in the background, only tuning in for certain characters.

On the plus side, TLC is 13 days away; hopefully this PPV brings the godawful Cena/AJ/Ziggler/Guerrero storyline to an end. Not to mention the Big Show/Sheamus feud, which has gotten pretty stale. The Punk/Heyman team needs to be shaken up too; those two working together should not be this dull!

On the other hand, putting Team Hell No and Kofi Kingston together last Friday was cheating; I can't ignore three of my favorite wrestlers working together! Plus adding Kofi's personality into Daniel and Kane's dynamic could be really fun in the long run; if they keep up with that 3-man tag scenario, I'll be forced to keep the TV on a little longer…

LinkG07

Miz and Cm Punk. Interest regained. Wow, Miz had the crowd eating out of his hands. He should be facing Punk at TLC not Ryback. Sure he'll most likely lose but come on, this right here has been the most entertaining thing that's come out of Punk's segments. Cause quite frankly, Punk spewing the same cookie cutter heel crap night after night after night makes me wanna chuck my TV out the window. Thank you Miz. You saved that segment. You are awesome.

KaizokuFan22

going to raw in 7 weeks
first it was seeing shawn michaels on the 2/18 raw in feb. now seeing the rock on the raw on 1.28 :)

LinkG07

Annnnnd they lost me. Its obvious Punk, Madox and The Shield aren't working together but did they have to cut it short AGAIN? Its obvious WWE wants to milk things dry, all the way till Jesus 'The Rock' Johnson comes and gives punk his first loss. Where's the pay off WWE?

loneassassin

@LinkG07:

Miz and Cm Punk. Interest regained. Wow, Miz had the crowd eating out of his hands. He should be facing Punk at TLC not Ryback. Sure he'll most likely lose but come on, this right here has been the most entertaining thing that's come out of Punk's segments. Cause quite frankly, Punk spewing the same cookie cutter heel crap night after night after night makes me wanna chuck my TV out the window. Thank you Miz. You saved that segment. You are awesome.

Miz is horrible as a babyface and there is no way people would cheer him over Punk.

Also, CM Punk just had surgery on his knee and will be out for TLC, so Ryback will be teaming with Kane and Daniel Bryan to face The Shield.

LinkG07

@loneassassin:

Miz is horrible as a babyface and there is no way people would cheer him over Punk.

Also, CM Punk just had surgery on his knee and will be out for TLC, so Ryback will be teaming with Kane and Daniel Bryan to face The Shield.

I disagree. Miz is a breath of fresh air in the mediocrity that is CM Punk and Paul Heyman. I loved his segments, though his "your mom" quip was a bit juvenille. I cannot fathom how anyone can see what Punk and Heyman are doing is a good thing. For one, the only reason heyman is around is because otherwise people would barely boo punk. That's not a good thing. Punk should be able to garner boos all on his own. Not to mention that for half a year he was a strong fighting champion who got respect through hard work and took on wrestlers like the Big Show without even batting an eyelid. Then suddenly he's a cowardly weasel who can't finish any of his matches. No me gusta.

Rebecky_Mo

@loneassassin:

Also, CM Punk just had surgery on his knee and will be out for TLC, so Ryback will be teaming with Kane and Daniel Bryan to face The Shield.

That match seems horrendously one-sided, it's screaming "squash match"…So naturally, The Shield will get the win to cement their strength. XP

loneassassin

@Rebecky_Mo:

That match seems horrendously one-sided, it's screaming "squash match"…So naturally, The Shield will get the win to cement their strength. XP

Calling it right now that the Shield win via triple powerbomb on Bryan

Rebecky_Mo

Guys. GUYS.

Sano

I saw that last night, all I have to say that was just great. Kane, Bryan, and Sandow were the best part of it,

Green_vs_Red

@LinkG07:

I disagree. Miz is a breath of fresh air in the mediocrity that is CM Punk and Paul Heyman. I loved his segments, though his "your mom" quip was a bit juvenille. I cannot fathom how anyone can see what Punk and Heyman are doing is a good thing. For one, the only reason heyman is around is because otherwise people would barely boo punk. That's not a good thing. Punk should be able to garner boos all on his own. Not to mention that for half a year he was a strong fighting champion who got respect through hard work and took on wrestlers like the Big Show without even batting an eyelid. Then suddenly he's a cowardly weasel who can't finish any of his matches. No me gusta.

They might as well turn Miz babyface lord knows they won't turn Cena heel.

Rebecky_Mo

Ahhhhhhh, I've missed happy-crazy!AJ so much. All this drama with her has been no fun; she needs to be bouncy!

But what's that fuzzy caterpillar doing on Cody's upper lip?

LinkG07

@Rebecky_Mo:

Ahhhhhhh, I've missed happy-crazy!AJ so much. All this drama with her has been no fun; she needs to be bouncy!

But what's that fuzzy caterpillar doing on Cody's upper lip?

I saw that before I lost interest… Cody, please, you look like a rent-a-cop. Get rid of it.

KaizokuFan22

@Rebecky_Mo:

Ahhhhhhh, I've missed happy-crazy!AJ so much. All this drama with her has been no fun; she needs to be bouncy!

But what's that fuzzy caterpillar doing on Cody's upper lip?

liked the Codys Mustache chant going on during MizTV

RPG KING

well the shield has to dominate and have a leader or have a significant wim or they will be like 3MB

LinkG07

@RPG:

well the shield has to dominate and have a leader or have a significant wim or they will be like 3MB

More like Nexus. Amazing build and potential and its all dropped when they lose when they need the victory the most.

loneassassin

@LinkG07:

More like Nexus. Amazing build and potential and its all dropped when they lose when they need the victory the most.

Exactly. Just another instance of WWE dropping the ball

KaizokuJinbei

You know Cena VS Ziggler doesn't make any sense isn't the MoB briefcase Ziggler has for the Heavy Weight? (When Cena is apart of the Raw roster and Ziggler is apart of the Smackdown roster….I think) Or does that not matter anymore?

Green_vs_Red

You can cash in on any belt though with Punk & Rock feuding over the belt no one knows what'll happen.

LinkG07

@Green_vs_Red:

You can cash in on any belt though with Punk & Rock feuding over the belt no one knows what'll happen.

Nope. Red case is for WWE championship and the blue case is for the world heavyweight championship. They separated them by brand but with how they have superstars bounce from show to show all the time, splitting the case by brand is pretty stupid. Hell, the whole money in the bank idea is stupid.

KaizokuJinbei

Time for the Slammy Awards