Doctor Who

Local-chan

! Well folks, I was right about the Cybermen being in next episode, still no clue on the Dalek, tho we do see somebody getting attacked by what seems to be a Dalek beam. Meh, still think this next ep is gonna be a weepy lol

Anyways, what did you guys think about this weeks ep? Pretty interesting I thought, if not cheesy at some points, but still better than the last weeks, and overall a nice relaxing ep to go before the final two eps.

Also, anyone else checked out the new books? I picked them up today, seem pretty awesome so far like lol.

Ms. Suave Debonair

It was a good episode apart from one line…

"Bob?... o no! Not you too Bob!"

Hugh Edwards should just stick to the news.

Local-chan

Yea, the bob line was hilarious

omnichild

Have not seen this week's episode yet. Waiting to watch it until at least Wednesday. As I have to travel for work this week.

Local-chan

HOLY SHIT! BEST…..EPISODE.....EVER!

! DALEKS vs CYBERMEN! Its like….omg...sex with both Robin and Nami at the same time. Anyways, as soon as the Cyberman said that the Sphere wasn't theirs then it was obvious that it was from the Daleks...and a Genesis Dalek one at that!

psycho wolvesbane

Well I wasn't too sure about who I thought was in the sphere when the Cybermen said it wasn't theirs but I thought it might have been someone good in fact.

Also I still want to know about the gift the Face of Bo is going to give the Doctor and whether that will be covered in the next episode or not until the 3rd series.

Local-chan

nah, it'll probably sometime in the future, maybe next series but I very much doubt it.

Caracal

I heard rumours of that war. Surprised they haven't done it in the past.

I personally want to see the Doctor's third major enemy re-appear, the Master. I'd love it if he was the mastermind behind the war, and the third series was dedicated to a fight between him and the Doctor.

Senshi Mizaka

I've never really known anything about this show, but my best friend is a big Dr. Who fan. She's really into it, and told me about the story and the plot line.

Local-chan

lol I'd love to see the Master appear again sometime, maybe in a two part episode tho. 5 or 6 at the most, I doubt we'll see a whole series dedicated to him.

As for series 3, I dunno what I want to see, I get the feeling that we won't finish up this war in one episode, unless its a longer episode.

Anyways, anyone know what this Genesis arc thing is? My friend commented that it could be in fact a reincarnation of Davros (though I think Adam could be his reincarnation.)

Also, another nice note is that for anyone (who like me) who wish to see the trailor for the next episode then they can see it on the BBC site.

Caracal

I've heard they'll bring back the Master if they can find the right actor. In my humble opinion Anthony Head WAS the perfect actor (especally considering how well he portrayed Hector Finch), so I'm dissapointed he only got to play a "minor villain" (in comparison to the Master anyway).

Local-chan

Yea thats the problem, since he's a minor villain he probably won't be the Master :(

Then again, that girl from the Charles Dickens episode is due to be a major character in the Torchwood series.

Caracal

I did once think up a theory that the Headmaster could (somehow) survive and gain some of the Doctor's genes, giving him some Time Lord abilities. That way he COULD become some kind of Master substitute.

Developing on my "Master is the mastermind behind the war" idea, he could take it one step further and kill Rose himself, angering the Doctor and resulting in the chase I suggested. Heck, I think that's the perfect way to do that.

Local-chan

hmmm a pretty good theory, although I'm certain that the only returning character (from a while back) that we'll see again this series is Davros, and even then it'll be a longshot. However I think we'll see the Krillatines once again next series.

! Thing is, like what was said in the episode. We know that the Cybermen followed the Daleks through the rift, thus coming to this dimension, and we know that others such as Pete Tyler and Mickey followed the Cybermen. However, I feel that the Daleks have been in the sphere for a long time, before the Time War at least, and 'not' existing for a while, thus why they couldn't figure out what the sphere was (cus it didn't exist) I somehow don't think that the Master could do that.
! However, since we have the inclustion of the Genesis Arc which the Daleks seem to be so determined to protect, and the inclusion of a Genesis Dalek (can't remember the black ones real name) its gotta be something that can increase their species. (Although there is one that is on earth somewhere from the episode Dalek) The only thing I could think of is Davros himself, though its a longshot.

Local-chan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/companion.shtml

seems that we got the new companion, that woman who got turned into a CyberSlave in the recent episode….god I hope shes better than in that episode, she was craptacular.

Caracal

So, she'll be playing a new character. At this moment in time I'm not sure how that will work.

Then again I do remember in the old series, a Time Lord can regenerate to look like someone else. At this moment in time that's the only way I can think of it, which can't work because of the Time War (out of interest, why did they choose to make the Doctor the last Time Lord?). An alternative reality version wouldn't really work as a "new character" (IMO anyway).

As for the surprise, I have a feeling it will be Jack. However as a fan of the Master, I'm ever hopeful it will be him instead.

Local-chan

well I'm pretty sure that it was said that Jack was due to come in sometime next series to console the Doctor over Rose's death, so thats probably the Christmas special.

Yea, it looks pretty stupid having her return so soon, fair enough if she was in lets say, the Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel/Idiot's Lantern episodes, as thats quite a gap. However most people will look at her and be like…wtf, didn't she just die 0.o

Also, was she the woman in the 'Long Game' episode? She sure does remind me of her.

As for the Time War, did they ever show it? Its been so long I can't remember, I'm sure we never did see it.

Ms. Suave Debonair

It was stated in one of the doctor who books, based on the travels of the 8th doctor. ' The ancestor cell', that the doctor tried to prevent the 'faction paradox' from starting a war between the time lords and an unamed enemy but, in doing so, caused the destruction of Gallifrey.

In another book, (same series of books) it was believed that Gallifrey had been blown up but the Time Lords had survived but it became impossible to access any part of Gallifrey's history or future.

In the new doctor who series, the doctor says he is the last of the Time Lords. The Time war (to date) hasn't been shown but many references have been made by the 9th Doctor. What we know is…

! The Time Wars was fought between the Time Lords and the Daleks, (the doctor fought in this war), the Daleks, were apparantly beaten but only at the expense of the entire Time Lord race (except for the doctor).
! You learn that only the Doctor and the Dalek seen in 'Dalek', survived but after the Dalek commited suicide, the doctor believed he was the last remaining survivor.
The Time War was felt throughout time and space and many of the aliens you see in the first season encountered problems due to it.
! You find out however that the Dalek emperor's ship survived but fell through time, they lay hidden and slowly rebuilt until finally showing themselves in the season 1 finale.

That's all I can be arsed to explain right now…except for....

! The Time War is believed what caused the doctor's regeneration of the to the 9th doctor. I should of just said..
No, you haven't seen it

Local-chan

Hmmmm true, I wasn't too sure, my memories of the older series are pretty bad lol.

Anyways, I dunno why but I felt the Face of Boe could have been something to do with the timelords. I mean, its said that he has lived for ages, its a long shot but he could in fact be a regenerated Time Lord or whatever.

Anywas, as for Rose's death.

! From the trailors done this week it seems that either the Supreme Dalek (Black) is gonna kill her, or shes gonna sacrifice herself to kill them all…..I just hope its the first, I'm sick of Rose saving the day almost everytime.

Also, I hope Yvonne snuffs it, I HATE her

Local-chan

wow, unbelievable episode, hell, even I had a lump in my throat in the ending.

! So then, first things first, Daleks vs Cybermen, pretty awesome, not as awesome as I hoped, I wanted the Cybers to at least kill one or two of the initial Daleks, they seemed to get pwned FAR too easily and it seemed that it was more like Humans and Cybermen vs Daleks.
! Yyvone's upgrade was awesome, tho I HATED HATED HAAAAAATED the fact that she came back as a good Cyberman, tho the oil tears was pretty cool.
! Daleks with names, good god that was awesome lol and Amusing.
! The Genesis Arc, hmmmm well I was hoping it was gonna be Davros but a Time Lord prison ship, wow just wow, I knew that the Daleks were gonna end up taking the fight outside but not in the way they did.
! The Cyber Commander, god I was pissed at how he snuffed it far too early, but then we got another one….who was killed by the Yyvone one.....then again, her and the other Cybers who got converted are still on this earth.
! Cybermen and Daleks 'alliance' god that whole scene cracked me up, I laughed so much with the Cybermen and Daleks fighting over who will say their name first lol.
! The Supreme Dalek, was I the only one who noticed that he managed to get away....hmmmm I wonder where too....
! And finally we come to the Rose's death, well I didn't expect her to end up through into the void with the cybers and daleks, but I was suprised to see her go into the Cybermen universe. I somehow seemed ripped off, I love Rose and all but I still wanted to see her die. It was quite a nice scene after with her managing to confess her love to the Doctor. Tho he did seem to get over her quite quickly lol, I sorta wanted it to go on for longer lol.
! And the very very VERY Finale....oh look....fun....a cliffhanger XD With a chav bride to boot, DAMN YOU CLIFFHANGERS! MAKING US WAIT TILL CHRISTMAS! haha can't wait.

wow, that was long and detailed, now to watch the left of confidential lol, missed the DoctorxRose bit too lol oh well.

Caracal

! Damn it. I wanted her and her mother to die. I started to find them REALLY annoying and was hoping for something like a bullet to the back of the head or something (OK, way to dark but I was hoping for somethign along those lines, say being deleted or exterminated).
! I was a little dissapointed with the lack of Cybermen/Dalek fights (then again I was fiddling with a lap top). Like Jango I wouldn't mind seeing more Daleks killed by a Cyberman. I was also hoping for Davros to re-appear but once again he didn't.

omnichild

Man it sucks that I have to wait until someone gets the episodes up on bittorrent. Tired of waiting. XD.

Sounds like a great episode though. It is too bad that Who doesn't have more popularity over here in the states.

But you know, they are probably never going to explain why the Doctor's new partner looks exactly like Yvonne. Unless in the next season/series they somehow think up a way to reverse the cyberman process….

*Meh*

I dunno, what always made Dr. Who golden-for me, anyway-was the sheer cheesiness of the whole thing. The actors were typically a mixed bag of a few superb ones and more than a few scenery-chewers. To me, Tom Baker was the best Doctor, hands down.

Local-chan

@omnichild:

But you know, they are probably never going to explain why the Doctor's new partner looks exactly like Yvonne. Unless in the next season/series they somehow think up a way to reverse the cyberman process….

Like I said, its gonna be about a year till the next series (This is what? Series 24?) so most people wont recognise her, and she wasn't Yvonne, she was the one who got turned into a Cyberslave along with the two dudes during Army of Ghosts. But yea, initially I was gonna say she was gonna have a double in the cyberman world, but of course thats gonna be impossible now lol.

And I dunno why, but I always found Doctor Who pretty good in the graphics department, I mean….we had the Daleks, which were to say the least, scary back then. And the Cybermen looked like better versions of Bender from Futurama....

Also you have to remember, Doctor Who back then had a pretty small budget compared to Star Wars and Star Trek, which even then still looked god aweful.

davybackfight

Well now that Rose has gone to the other dimension with her Dad (Sort of), Mickey, and her mum. And Catherine Tate has found herself inside the Tardis. I wonder what the new series will be like when it starts at Christmas. I still think the latest Doctor is the best!

Local-chan

dude, spoiler that, there are still people who aint seen the episode yet.

Azegoroth

Just saw the doomsday episode, the ending was so sad…

! Since the black Dalek escaped, and there might still be several cybermen still active(The one's created on earth). Methinks we've not seen the last of either metal monstrosity.
Looking forward to the next season(Argh, gotta wait until christmas!), David Tennant is doing a great job as The Doctor, so I'm glad they wont change him just yet.

Local-chan

Yea, I know for a fact that some Cybermen survived (some got upgraded during Doomsday so…) although it makes me wonder if there'll be any different Cybermen since this is a different reality.

Caracal

I thought the only "Earth A" Cyberman was the Tourchwood woman who killed herself. But then again there is always that possibility, and the Doctor does need Cybermen almost as much as he needs Daleks.

Local-chan

If I remember correctly there was more than just Yyvonne, cos a couple went before her, and I think I remember them saying they need to upgrade as many as possible.

That and I get the feeling that Lumic survived somehow….

Local-chan

Hmmmm does anyone know when Torchwood start? I was on Amazon and it says the DVD is due out at the end of the year….so that means that it must be starting sometime soon.

omnichild

Hmm I would have no clue. I hope they bring Torchwood over to the US. But I doubt they will.

Anyway, what are we all going to do to fill our time until Christmas? Will fanfictions and the books be enough to hold us? Oh woe is me! I need my Doctor Fix.

Local-chan

lol over here its ok really, cus of:

August: Series 2 vol 4 (The Ood episodes and Love and Monsters)
September: Series 2 vol 5 (Fear Her, Doomsday and Army of Ghosts)
October: 3 More Books
November: The Invasion
December: dunno
Christmas Day: The Runaway Bride

Not to mention K-9 and Torchwood.

And on that note, anyone played the new K-9 game on the Doctor Who site? Its really fun lol, you should check it out.

omnichild

Well you brits just suck. Keeping all the good doctor stuff to yourselves. Meanie heads. -sticks tongue out.-

Local-chan

lol good for us lol, bout time we got stuff you guys want lol Tho I heard that series 2 is gonna be starting soon on the Sci-Fi channel over there.

omnichild

But I have already seen all of series 2! I want something new!

Local-chan

do what I did, go to Youtube and watch stuff, they have things like Pirates of The Caribbean Doctor Who version, and also the whole of the amazing arc 'Tomb of the Cybermen'

Local-chan

Well, just been reading some of the Doctor Who tie in sites (Although one of the Cybercorp sites seemed to be off limits from Torchwood >_>) and its pretty interesting lol

First off is the Cybercorp site that worked, pretty interesting how Lumic wanted people to have excersises (he also mentions the prototypes for the Cybermen having a weakness to gold)

The Van Statten one was ok, pretty much just him blabbing on about nothing.

Tho the Who is Doctor Who website (From the episode 'Rose') was pretty cool, with references to some of the older Doctors and Sarah Jane Smith asking for information lol, (even Arthur Dent from Hitchikers fame makes a statement lol) well worth checking out.

Caracal

I've heard Torchwood will start in October of this year, but nothing else. Truthfully I'm not sure how I feel about this spin off. It could be great, or it may not work for one reason or another.

Local-chan

Yea, I dunno why but I just don't feel I could see Jack as a good main character, he was ok as a Companion but he'll probably just get old as the main character.

On another note, I got the original three stories today, so far they are awesome.

AWB

Doctor Who looks interesting, and I'm thinking of giving the series a try. Any particular stories that you guys can recommend?

omnichild

oh I totally reccommend the episode in which Captain Jack is first introduced. Can't remember the name of it right now. But that is totally my favourite episode.

AWB

Gotcha.

Someone explain the trash can robots to me. They seem so silly what with that weird voices and horrible movements. Also, I've heard that the series gets incrediblly violent. Are we talking strong people just getting sliced up and eternal-bleeding violence or Pulp Fiction graphically gory guts-a-flying-n-exploding-in-every-direction violence?

Local-chan

Omni, that ones the Lonely Child one right? If you are going that far back he's better off watching World War III or Rose.

as for 'the trashcans' are the Daleks, easily the best villains ever to be made in anything. (Yes, better than that pansy Vader)

As for the Gore, I wouldn't say its that bad myself, You never really see much blood in it if I remember, tho its more like unnatural deaths.

As for an episode to start at, I'd personally say:

An Unearthly Child/Rose/The Christmas Invasion, although if you want to see the most iconic episodes you NEED to watch Tomb of the Cybermen, Invasion, The Dalek invasion of earth and Genesis of the Daleks.

AWB

@1:

as for 'the trashcans' are the Daleks, easily the best villains ever to be made in anything. (Yes, better than that pansy Vader)

How remote control trash cans can beat Lord Vader, I'll believe it when I see it.

As for the Gore, I wouldn't say its that bad myself, You never really see much blood in it if I remember, tho its more like unnatural deaths.

Explain.

omnichild

People are more vaporized then torn up and bloody gory stuff.

True Jango, iconic would be invasion, Rose, WW3 or the Dalek one. But I still prefer lonely child. Uber creepy. Granted the first episode with the mannequins creeped me out too.

And AWB, believe use Daleks pwn all.

Local-chan

Yup, Daleks are literally pure evil. I don't know anyone who says they suck lol

As for the Mannequins? You mean the Autons? Lol I got a DVD today which had them in lol, I think it was the 3rd Doctor too lol.

omnichild

no no I am talking about the living plastic with the ninth doctor. The first of this new show had the living mannequins or living plastic.

Local-chan

Ohhhh you mean the Christmas invasion? With the Santas, god they made me laugh so much XD Tho I dun really think its a good place to start myself seeing as most of that the Doctor is in the middle of regeneration.

Tho apart from that the only ones I can think of what you mean is the Clockwork robots lol

omnichild

Hahaha no, actually I am talking about 'Rose' episode. Heh, I forgot that Rose was the very first episode of this new set. Sorry!

Found a website that gives a synopsis of the episodes for all the doctors.

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