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    • Blake Bakes Cakes
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      @Zephray:

      Anyone try reaching out to let Microsoft or Funimation or Toei know?

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      I’m saying that an untranslated title implies an undubbed film. When foreign films come to the states, they often get translated titles. Same goes for the prior one piece specials, which had translated titles.

      And what I'm saying is that toei has referred to it as that for years, and it would literally make no sense cuz mugiwara isn't used in the subs either. Toei also insists on using terms like nakama. They're infamously weird like this. It doesn't mean anything. They've been referring to it with that title for years, your argument would only make sense if they suddenly started calling it mugiwara chase for this release, which is not true.

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        I’m not talking about Toei’s naming conventions. I’m talking about how the average individual will perceive an untranslated title. It’s a very fair assumption that most people will think the untranslated title means an untranslated/undubbed film.

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        Also, I don’t know what you’re saying about Toei “always using the Mugiwara Chase title.” This is the first time the title has been mentioned in any capacity in the states. In Japan, check out this poster, which does not use the English title “Adventures of Nebulandia.” That’s because they translated the title when it came to the states, as one tends to do. They easily could’ve named it “Straw Hat Chase” similar to how they change the special names from Japanese to English.

        https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/2/25/Adventure_of_Nebulandia.png/revision/latest?cb=20151109032303

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        @Blake:

        I mean… okay? What does that change exactly? I don’t even remember if I specifically named Funimaton or not. If anything that literally makes it worse. Microsoft is… Microsoft?? You’re telling me, I should not expect the multi billion dollar corporation, to remember to include everything that should be in a release because, boohoo it’s hard to release things?

        Either way I think FUNI/TOEI ARE to blame because… they still work with this storefront. One piece is the only show released like this. The streaming service of the people dubbing it doesn’t even have it first. Quite frankly they’re exploiting people. They have a drought for 2 years and now people like me are desperate for it, so will happily pay way more for it than any other show, only for them to still care so little that they can’t even have the episodes included, and if anything like last time it will literally take a week to get what we were promised.

        I just don’t know in what world my expectations are unrealistic or entitled. This is the only instance I’ve seen of anything even remotely like this, from brands of such size at least. They drive up hype everywhere and then can’t even make sure 99% of the content is there on the day they anticipated. Pretty wack in my book. Once again if it’s released by the end of the day I will take back most of what I’ve said but I’m just talking from the frankly awful experience from the last time this happened.

        I wouldn’t mind the mistakes if they were communicative. What annoys me is that they’ll let us know if MHA has a slight simuldub delay, but OP gets none of the same courtesies.

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          This is fairly tangential, but I have to wonder if said Toei titles are also the reason why that recent Digimon movie was released in the US as "Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna" rather than, y'know, not having a Japanese word in the title that also happens to be like the biggest arc word in the entire movie and thus a word that really really should be translated so that the title will actually make sense to English audiences… Was it really that hard to use "Bonds" instead?
          …If that is indeed what happened there, then the use of "Mugiwara" in the title here might not mean anything for the translation of the movie itself. I mean it really shouldn't. The dub has used "Straw Hat Luffy" since forever.

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            Toei makes weird decisions, huh?

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              The Japanese poster and DVD have "Mugiwara Chase" written in small English text on the bottom of the logo. Toei seems to have always considered that its English name.
              I think the reasonable conclusion here is that Funimation hasn't localised the title, which could mean that Toei's putting out a subtitled version without them or that they no longer allow Funimation to re-title the movies.

              If it is dubbed, I expect that (like the Unlimited Adventure cutscenes) there will be places where the syllables visibly don't match the English dialogue. Their mouths aren't just opening and closing like the regular anime. Hopefully a dubbed disc is coming and I can mux English audio onto the 3D Blu-ray.

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                Hah! They posted a s11v9 release Twitter post, only to delete it minutes later. Guess they've realized the problem, at least!

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                  @Zephray:

                  I wouldn’t mind the mistakes if they were communicative. What annoys me is that they’ll let us know if MHA has a slight simuldub delay, but OP gets none of the same courtesies.

                  I wonder how MHA does for them compared to One Piece. Both in regards to traffic and profit. Sadly, most of the times I see people talk about One Piece on other sites/discord, fans say fansub sites or "One Pace" still get recommended.

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                    I can't believe mha would be more popular then op in the states. Op aired dubbed on kids tv for a decent amount of time.

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                      Okay so now that my initial anger and disappointment has mostly subsided, I will say that maybe saying it took a week to fix last time is a bit misleading. It only took them a day to update it! But… the 6th episode was still missing, and it took a week for them to care enough to fix it again. So, optimistically, if they managed to not royally screw up again we could get the rest tomorrow. I would appreciate, literally any acknowledgment of this, however. Oh yeah also it seems they can only update things once a day, within 20 minutes after 3AM (EST).

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                      Still won’t give us on update on actual content but don’t you worry they’ll tell what luffy wears!! http://https://twitter.com/onepieceanime/status/1445524233359003653?s=21

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                        Even though they may not do a simuldub, it would be cool if they dubbed episode 1000 as a simuldub.

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                          Welp, looking like we're gonna have to wait at least another day! Assuming we're waiting for anything! Because they literally refuse to acknowledge this or update us!

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                            He raging.

                            If they don’t update it soon, it’ll make more financial sense to just wait for streaming.

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                              And understandably, these episodes are not only long-awaited, but now they’re late!

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                                Anthony Bowling has been kind enough to give us credits for some of the characters who hadn't been confirmed up to this point:

                                https://twitter.com/Bowling4day/status/1445519666638585873

                                https://twitter.com/Bowling4day/status/1445787864751480843

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                                  Sorry if I am being annoying tbh I just like being petty lol.

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                                  For the record I absolutely called Brandon Potter as Orlumbus. Also he confirms that Kent Williams voiced Hack in voyage 6, cuz of covid restrictions apparently. So he probably just doesn’t have a home studio or whatever. Oh and fun fact Spartan is voiced by the same dude who voices Bowser lol.

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                                    Oh, that's good of him. Way late, but good. Weird we didn't know Kanjuro until now. Wonder if we'll be able to figure out Kaido.

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                                      We did actually, kinda. Someone just kinda said Ben Bryant told them, and uh weirdly specific thing to lie abt lol. Riku is a lot weirder to me.

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                                        Nice to see a U.S. advertisement for the series. First time I can remember.

                                        https://twitter.com/double_0_snake/status/1445803126137761793?s=21

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                                          I want more one piece! Everyone who has been looking forward to this set has been disappointed.

                                          http://25.media.tumblr.com/bcfcb30da…f4f5o1_500.gif

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                                            Guys! They updated voyage 9! The rest of the episodes? Of course not! They uploaded the proper cover image though!

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                                              It’s not updated everywhere, even. But hey, they’re working on it, eh?

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                                              I like that people are making angry memes now.

                                              https://twitter.com/da_pikmin_coder/status/1445834122925051907?s=21

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                                                Never mind… they changed the image back.

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                                                  Has anyone actually called Microsoft support or is it just shouting to the void of the internet?

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                                                    Again, this is not the first time this has happened. They didn’t do anything when contacted directly. @ing them on twitter is as good as anything else. This is because, like you said, the page you buy the episodes on itself doesn’t lie, it’s just extremely misleading. So they technically have no obligation to do anything.

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                                                    Okay, so NOW they've added episodes 1-10. HOWEVER, episodes 4-10 are marked as "unavailable", and can't be watched. Great.

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                                                      Sounds like it is being updated.

                                                      Just chill and let them work it.

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                                                        Okay so now all of them are "available", so I will not worry about it until I watch all of them, but part of me is telling me episodes 11, 13, and 14 won't be added for a while. It took them 2 updates spanned over an entire week last time, and its looking like the same thing is happening now.

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                                                          Eeesh. Yeah, mate, you gotta relax. This is a very minor stress in life; be happy if this is the worst thing that happens to you this week or month.

                                                          Episodes are up. Most of them. Hawkins pretty clearly recasted. Worse now.

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                                                            It is. The unavailable thing was just a matter of them just being updated, but there are still episodes missing. Also I think you’re taking what I’m saying too seriously to be frank. Like I’ve been complaining sure, and maybe I was being a bit dramatic at first, but I think being upset over this is reasonable. Assuming I don’t have any other problems is a bit uncalled for, it’s precisely because of life that I look forward to these, I just want them to give us the content when they say they will. Or at least if they don’t be more open and update us.

                                                            Oh and uh, Ace says 4 words, and it sounds kinda like Travis, but I don’t think that’s him.

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                                                              Kaido’s voice is serviceable. I can work with this, though anything would take some getting used to. I can’t tell much from these two lines, so I hope someone can easily and confidently spot the VA to tell us whether the VA is also a good actor. The voice is slightly flemmy—and deep but perhaps not as deep as some will be expecting.

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                                                              It is. The unavailable thing was just a matter of them just being updated, but there are still episodes missing. Also I think you’re taking what I’m saying too seriously to be frank. Like I’ve been complaining sure, and maybe I was being a bit dramatic at first, but I think being upset over this is reasonable. Assuming I don’t have any other problems is a bit uncalled for, it’s precisely because of life that I look forward to these, I just want them to give us the content when they say they will. Or at least if they don’t be more open and update us.

                                                              Oh and uh, Ace says 4 words, and it sounds kinda like Travis, but I don’t think that’s him.

                                                              which episode is Ace in?

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                                                              1-10 and episode 12 are all uploaded.

                                                              Mike was director on the Kaido episode. Safe to say he casted the voice.

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                                                                Ace is pretty early in 735, or the 3rd episode.

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                                                                  New Apoo sounds very much like old Apoo—though maybe slightly less committed.

                                                                  New Hawkins leans way less into the stilted logical dialect the previous actor perfected. He sounds more like a normal guy, not quite so stylized a voice. Bummer.

                                                                  Gonna post the Kaido clip tonight? Curious to hear what people think and who they guess the actor is.

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                                                                    Maybe, but I usually try to wait to post things until the afternoon so they get the most traction.

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                                                                      Probably folks will enjoy waking up to it, though.

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                                                                        That works if people have notifications on maybe, but Twitter and social media in general tend to bury things that are posted when nobody’s awake. But I’ve posted stuff late before and it’s turned out okay, so maybe. I’ll decide when I get to it.

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                                                                          @Blake:

                                                                          Ace is pretty early in 735, or the 3rd episode.

                                                                          Couldn’t find it. Oh well.

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                                                                          Ah. Found it. The performance for the first half of the line sounds like him, and the performance on the back half of the line doesn’t. But the overall voice sounds the same, so probably it’s Travis.

                                                                          I’m less concerned about him than I am about Hawkins. Glad Apoo and Kaido sound fine. What’s you think of them?

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                                                                            Tsuru sounds the same as in the flashback, so yeah she wasn’t trying to age herself down she just didn’t remember the voice from how little dialogue she had before. I like the new take more and she sounds more distinct from big mom, so I’m not complaining.

                                                                            In episode 736 they pronounce Urouge’s name… “Oo-roo-gay” . What. That’s not even a hard name. How do you look at that and think it’s pronounced that way. Oh and before anyone blames it on a new director mike directed that episode lol. Though really reminds me of how Joel somehow though Bege was pronounced “Bayg”.

                                                                            Watching in order cuz I have enough time to binge them all tonight, so I haven’t heard Kaido yet, but Apoo’s a really great voice match actually. Glad the roles in good hands, and is still very clearly in Brads image.

                                                                            The more I listen to the Ace snippet the less it sounds like Travis to me, so sorry I have to disagree there. Not super concerned with T. Axelrod reprising Hawkins, since he just did so in Punk hazard, and I’m presuming these episodes. Travis hasn’t recorded Ace in at least 4 years.

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                                                                            Ace has another line in 737, but was able to find the original episode and it’s a grab. It not being re-recorded may suggest it’s still Travis? But they didn’t replace Blackbeard’s lines for his flashback so ehhhhh.

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                                                                            Okay okay, sorry for repeatedly posting about the same thing, but there’s a reanimated alabasta flashback in 738. Yeah, absolutely not Travis, although sounds close enough that it’s not overly distracting, and the average viewer may not notice. A shame he had to be recast at all, but not exactly a shock.

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                                                                            Just saw that zephray that Hawkins has changed. I compared and… no he hasn’t? I think you’re just confused because… in his scene here he is showing emotion. He’s never done that before, thus the tone.

                                                                            Anyways Kaido is not exactly what I was expecting, but that’s not a bad thing. It’s great actually I think. It hits all the important points for me. He sounds his age, this kinda foreboding sound. He has this really flemmy? aspect to his voice where he’s like almost slurring his words sometimes, like the original seiyuu. If you like his original voice and that description sounds horrible to you, I’m just awful at explaining. But these things make him a better fit than say Daman Mills would be imo, someone me and many others would’ve liked. Not the deepest voice in the whole world, but deep enough to sell the rest of it.

                                                                            Oh yeah also all episodes are up now.

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                                                                              I really do hope its still Travis, especially since in Wano he will actually get some lines

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                                                                                Okay final notes.

                                                                                Mike directed all of them all of anyone was wondering.

                                                                                Jack is kinda just a big tough guy but like… I don’t know what else I would’ve expected so it works well. The delivery on the… 2 lines is good.

                                                                                Generally just fun this time, super surreal ending this finally. Lots of people we haven’t heard for a long time, or are entirely new, or are finally becoming relevant to the story. Particular really missed Ivankov, loved hearing Randy Pearlman as them again.

                                                                                So uh, guess zou is next! Got a feeling it won’t be too long, even if we do get a hiatus of some kind I wouldn’t imagine it being very long. Lots of stuff to look forward to their, like all of these characters are pretty much untapped in the dub. Exciting time.

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                                                                                Oh wait, one more thing. Kaido sounds a lot like the roles I listened to from Paul St. Peter, so calling that it's him.

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                                                                                  Someone posted the clip on YouTube (by filming their tv with their phone so it’s not great) but it doesn’t sound like Paul to me, but I’ll wait till a cleaner version goes up. Sounds really great as Kaido though, I’m excited!

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                                                                                    Oh yeah, the clip you posted definitely sounds like a new Ace. Bummer.

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                                                                                      Oh yeah, the clip you posted definitely sounds like a new Ace. Bummer.

                                                                                      New Ace almost sounds more like Sonic than Knuckles 👅

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                                                                                        If Hawkins VA didn’t change, certainly his performance and the writing for his character have. “Such was the fate of your pants” is long gone. He lost the stilted dialect and now sounds like a normal person speaking.

                                                                                        I like Kaido’s voice the more I listen. Jack’s sounded a little too much like an actor trying to sound big and tough, but it was only a short line or two, so I’ll give that a pass until we hear more. I wish the translation for his line sounded a little more mature; I only ever hear kids and teens use the word “crap”; “shit” seems to be the adult equivalent. That’s an extreme nitpick, of course.

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                                                                                          Can someone post a link to Ace's voice?

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                                                                                            Blake posted dub Kaido

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                                                                                            I'm glad Tsuru/BM's voice actress came back for these episodes. That means--I hope--she'll be up for voicing WCI and Wano over the next two years or so. Probably her character will recede after Wano, so there's only two years (barring any breaks) of dubbing work for her if they keep up this one set every 1.5 month rate. WCI is 9 sets, then Wano is going to be like 15--and will probably be about over by time Funi releases WCI.

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                                                                                              @Zephray:

                                                                                              If Hawkins VA didn’t change, certainly his performance and the writing for his character have. “Such was the fate of your pants” is long gone. He lost the stilted dialect and now sounds like a normal person speaking. @Zephray:

                                                                                              I’m sorry but you’re really nitpicking here. It’s one scene. This is the first time he is nervous or shocked in any way, so obviously he is not going to sound completely emotionless and stilted. He just had a scene in Punk Hazard where he sounded the same, if he’s somehow showing too much emotion for you despite what the scene conveys then good news, I actually can’t remember another time off the top of my head he’s even this emotional.

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                                                                                                No. He's breaking character. It isn't like Hawkins to suddenly sound like a normal guy when he's surprised–that would imply Hawkins the character is only acting when he puts on his stilted, very formal dialect. His phrasing should always be wordy, his delivery/dialect always the same. On Sabaody, he was certainly under more stress than he is in this scene, yet his dialect stayed the same stilted way. An actor can certainly communicate stress or surprise while keeping to their dialect. The writers, if they're skilled, can certainly articulate his formal, signature odd phrasing regardless of the mood his character is in.

                                                                                                Should Shiki have dropped his Jamaican accent whenever he had some sort of emotional rise or change? No, obviously not. This is exactly the same.

                                                                                                Weird for you to be the guy to call me out on a nit-pick, especially since an actor changing his delivery approach to the point where I'm not even sure it's the same actor definitely isn't a nit-pick. I'm glad it doesn't bother you, but it isn't a nit-pick. It doesn't bother me much if it's only for these few lines. It'll bother me and be a bummer if this new performance style and writing carries into Wano.

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                                                                                                  @Zephray:

                                                                                                  If Hawkins VA didn’t change, certainly his performance and the writing for his character have. “Such was the fate of your pants” is long gone. He lost the stilted dialect and now sounds like a normal person speaking.

                                                                                                  I’m sorry but yes I would call this nitpicking. It’s one scene. This is the first time he is nervous or shocked in any way, so obviously he is not going to sound completely emotionless and stilted. He just had a scene in Punk Hazard where he sounded the same, if he’s somehow showing too much emotion for you despite what the scene conveys then good news, I actually can’t remember another time off the top of my head he’s even this emotional. You don’t necessarily have to like it, although I honestly can not understand how you’re complaining about a different delivery when the character is acting in a manor they never had before, but at the very least I’d say you should not worry that how he sounds is gonna completely change.

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                                                                                                  Can someone post a link to Ace's voice?

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                                                                                                    What are you talking about? He's never been surprised or stressed before? Fighting Kizaru was a walk in the park, eh? And you clearly didn't even read my post. A dialect shouldn't change when you're surprised; that makes no sense.

                                                                                                    Go to bed, mate. You stayed up too late.

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                                                                                                      I just woke up (have no idea what time it is for you but either way yes I know my sleep schedule is awful). Also it’s as simple as I wouldn’t say it completely changed. Like, he just doesn’t sound emotionless. Also tbh I just remember him being mostly calm during the Kizaru encounter despite how screwed he was.

                                                                                                      But at the very least, again I just wouldn’t worry about him sounding different in the future. Like, even if you do not think it reads well, what I’ve been saying was clearly the intent. Because… it’s only the one scene. Like I just wouldn’t say they’re ruining his character or anything until you see more of him, not matter how you feel about the scene.

                                                                                                      Also yeah sorry I didn’t read what you said, because you posted while i was trying to edit something and I guess instead I… posted the edited version separately? After you said something else? No idea how I did that. But I don’t really have anything else to add. Sounds fine to me.

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                                                                                                        Someone should just @ Taliesin Jaffe and ask him if he's still Hawkins, that would solve it real quick (I would but I don't have twitter)

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